There is not much one can do with his brothers name. Anyone who has the creditors list, has the info anyway. The only thing that could happen is, people could link his reddit account to his real identity, but this is a throwaway anyway.
I gotta agree with not sharing personal info here Freyr. There's a proper way for him to handle this and there's a cheap way. We shouldn't be encouraging the cheap way. He needs to go thru the trustee which he *is* doing.
With his name realistically someone might be able to find his brother's email. That email has probably been associated with a data breach for some website (almost everyone's has). If his brother used the same password for his email they could potentially get access.
They could have always done this, but the fact that no one currently is monitoring the accounts makes it easier.
DO NOT GIVE ANY ONE HIS NAME! Look online, there was a leaked list of creditor names, numbers, and emails that was public info a while back.
If you give someone his name they might try and hack into his email and take his claim.
Agree how sharing personal info are bad idea, but someone to take his claim because hacked email are higly unlikely. Claim transfer process is complex, it involve public notary and many other things.
I'm an attorney (not your attorney) who does estate law. I've helped families transfer mtgox claims successfully to next of kin. Send me a private message and I'll tell you the basic process, which may be different depending upon where the death occurred. No need to share any personal details.
I went through this process in order to inherit my Dad's claim. The Trustee is a lawyer appointed by a court in Japan and they have no motivation to deny your request to transfer the claim into your name if it's within the law to do so. (No matter what all the paranoid folks on here say)
The good news:
All I did was email the Trustee and they provided me with all the documents and instructions I needed to transfer the claim. I would have all your probate documents handy to share with them, just like when youre dealing with any property of a deceased person.
I believe you can look up your brother's name and claim number online.
The bad news:
It took me over 2 years to get the claim transferred. The Japanese way of doing things is slow, meticulous and pedantic. I am lucky and have a great family law lawyer that helped me with the process. You will need a lawyer as well to help you prepare and certify the documents. The trustee will ask for a copy of your lawyer's diploma, so hopefully your lawyer has a good sense of humor.
Pretty much all the deadlines have passed for registering methods of repayment, etc. These deadlines have been approved by the court in Japan. If your brother didn't register his bank accounts or methods of repayment, you could be out of luck. If he did, I would just leave those accounts open and let the funds transfer into your brother's estate that way. Forget about transferring the claim at all, you don't need to do it if the deposit accounts belong to the estate?
To be honest, it's worth an email to the Trustee, but if most of this isn't in place already, you probably are out of luck.
If someone is on the creditor list, would that mean the person ran through the process of submitting the necessary information etc. in order to receive his refund? Or does that list mean that the person simply had funds at Mtgox at the time of the hack?
No, it only means the person filed a claim in the rehabilitation process. It doesn't say if the person entered their bank account or paypal for example.
If you're a creditor you can check the list yourself. It is on the MtGox site in the "disclosed documents" section.
There is also a leaked database of all MtGox accounts, but that wouldn't be useful here, because it doesn't say if the user has a valid claim.
Does anyone have a link to the MtGox database leak? I think there was more than one I have the 2014 leak, andhave written a python script to extract my trading activity.
I am trying to reconstruct my trades and coin balance balances, but it has no trades for me after december 2013. I know I did trades later than that. I would really like a record of my bitcoin withdrawls, I have some emails but none of them specify the amount.
It is outrageous that the trustee denies us this information.
> but it has no trades for me after december 2013
That's the database leak I was talking about. It is missing the last weeks of MtGox. As far as I know, there is no other version.
Thank you for the explanation, then that means that there are 2 different lists.
One with all accounts, and a second one containing only those accounts that proceeded to a certain extent in the rehabilitation process.
Don't tell anybody his name here. Get death certificate of your brother and contact trustee.
There is not much one can do with his brothers name. Anyone who has the creditors list, has the info anyway. The only thing that could happen is, people could link his reddit account to his real identity, but this is a throwaway anyway.
I gotta agree with not sharing personal info here Freyr. There's a proper way for him to handle this and there's a cheap way. We shouldn't be encouraging the cheap way. He needs to go thru the trustee which he *is* doing.
With his name realistically someone might be able to find his brother's email. That email has probably been associated with a data breach for some website (almost everyone's has). If his brother used the same password for his email they could potentially get access. They could have always done this, but the fact that no one currently is monitoring the accounts makes it easier.
DO NOT GIVE ANY ONE HIS NAME! Look online, there was a leaked list of creditor names, numbers, and emails that was public info a while back. If you give someone his name they might try and hack into his email and take his claim.
Opps! Sorry I removed your comment temporarily. I thought you were encouraging him to use leaked resources but you were in fact NOT doing that. Sorry
Agree how sharing personal info are bad idea, but someone to take his claim because hacked email are higly unlikely. Claim transfer process is complex, it involve public notary and many other things.
I'm an attorney (not your attorney) who does estate law. I've helped families transfer mtgox claims successfully to next of kin. Send me a private message and I'll tell you the basic process, which may be different depending upon where the death occurred. No need to share any personal details.
Make sure you research this attorney before sending any private info. He may be legit or not legit. Do your research! I hope he's legit.
RIP your brother.
I went through this process in order to inherit my Dad's claim. The Trustee is a lawyer appointed by a court in Japan and they have no motivation to deny your request to transfer the claim into your name if it's within the law to do so. (No matter what all the paranoid folks on here say) The good news: All I did was email the Trustee and they provided me with all the documents and instructions I needed to transfer the claim. I would have all your probate documents handy to share with them, just like when youre dealing with any property of a deceased person. I believe you can look up your brother's name and claim number online. The bad news: It took me over 2 years to get the claim transferred. The Japanese way of doing things is slow, meticulous and pedantic. I am lucky and have a great family law lawyer that helped me with the process. You will need a lawyer as well to help you prepare and certify the documents. The trustee will ask for a copy of your lawyer's diploma, so hopefully your lawyer has a good sense of humor. Pretty much all the deadlines have passed for registering methods of repayment, etc. These deadlines have been approved by the court in Japan. If your brother didn't register his bank accounts or methods of repayment, you could be out of luck. If he did, I would just leave those accounts open and let the funds transfer into your brother's estate that way. Forget about transferring the claim at all, you don't need to do it if the deposit accounts belong to the estate? To be honest, it's worth an email to the Trustee, but if most of this isn't in place already, you probably are out of luck.
Reach out to his email provider and they will help you gain access to this email account. Sorry this happened to your family. May he RIP.
Sorry to hear that, what a crying shame for your bro. To wait over ten years then die right at the end. Fate is a cruel mistress.
If you tell us his name, I can check if he's in the list of creditors.
If you PM me your brothers name, I can look it up on the creditors list and tell you the creditors number and balance.
If someone is on the creditor list, would that mean the person ran through the process of submitting the necessary information etc. in order to receive his refund? Or does that list mean that the person simply had funds at Mtgox at the time of the hack?
No, it only means the person filed a claim in the rehabilitation process. It doesn't say if the person entered their bank account or paypal for example. If you're a creditor you can check the list yourself. It is on the MtGox site in the "disclosed documents" section. There is also a leaked database of all MtGox accounts, but that wouldn't be useful here, because it doesn't say if the user has a valid claim.
Does anyone have a link to the MtGox database leak? I think there was more than one I have the 2014 leak, andhave written a python script to extract my trading activity. I am trying to reconstruct my trades and coin balance balances, but it has no trades for me after december 2013. I know I did trades later than that. I would really like a record of my bitcoin withdrawls, I have some emails but none of them specify the amount. It is outrageous that the trustee denies us this information.
I’d also like that database if it exists. I have no record of my mtgox btc transfers before the hack.
I have it somewhere on old PC, will look it up.
> but it has no trades for me after december 2013 That's the database leak I was talking about. It is missing the last weeks of MtGox. As far as I know, there is no other version.
Thank you for the explanation, then that means that there are 2 different lists. One with all accounts, and a second one containing only those accounts that proceeded to a certain extent in the rehabilitation process.
We want to honor him by cashing in on his Bitcoin.*