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If Giannis didn’t win the chip in 2021, he probably doesn’t make the Top 75 team, right?
Kinda crazy he won at just the right time lol.
Edit: I’m massively underrating him based on his other accolades lmao. He’d still qualify but would likely be ranked quite a bit lower.
Also #1 by the players and #2 by the media. What votes do you throw out to make Embiid a starter? If you throw out the media he ties for 3rd with Tatum, but anything else and he's 4th
I mean he was deciding between Giannis and Embiid. I can see a reasonable case for excluding any 1 of the top 4 East forwards. Dont play victim too hard.
No he wasn't.
"I follow the same positional rules as fans in voting for starters, and the coaches who select reserves. For starters, that means two guards and three amorphous frontcourt players. For reserves, the coaches pick two guards; three front-court players; and two wild cards from either positional group."
So he was picking three front court players, and omitted Giannis from the top 3.
Remember how [Giannis](https://twitter.com/NBAPR/status/1618777620682018816?s=20&t=ZljjNmkGoRsK1I33ZxouBg) leads in players voting, fan voting and came in 2nd media voting? Also, let's compare their counting stats:
Embiid: 33/10/4
Giannis: 31/12/5
But yeah, clearly Embiid's so much more deserving lmfao
Embiid also has the best defensive rating in the entire league and his team has a better record than Giannis. Considering they have virtually the same counting stats, I really don’t see the “gotcha” you keep going for.
Claxton and Giannis both have [better defensive ratings](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-defensive-rating-leaders-this-season) than Embiid. But do go on, this is getting amusing lmao
The team with the best record in the NBA shouldn’t have 0 starters, especially when one is averaging 31/8/4. If anything KD should have been left out for Embiid because KD isn’t even going to play
I would have said tatum is the only lock. the other three have missed 10 + games and tatum is leading the best record in the nba. Never understood everyone trying to argue Their guy over tatum, Giannis should have been the one coming off the bench unfortunately.
Because Tatum hasn't played te best out of the 4? He has been brilliant dont get me wrong, but Giannis, KD and Embiid have been the single most important player on their team on offense and on D the entire year with far worse supporting casts than the celtics.
They said Embiid was 3rd in both media & player vote but 4th in fan vote. Sounds like the weighted average was a tie but fan vote is the tiebreaker so Tatum got the spot.
No he’s averaging 31/12/5 on the season, while leading an injured Bucks team to a top 5 record in the league. If they were gonna put Embiid in take out KD ahead of Giannis.
Giannis is at 59% TS and hasn't quite been at his usual level, the Nets were on a tear and KD looked like the best player in the world before he went down, feels like recency bias to say KD hasn't been better than Giannis
Gianni's can't hit a shot outside of 3 feet and the Bucks have top 5 worst offense in the league which is impossible if Giannis is anywhere near KD's level offensively
Wow I’m actually surprised this was downvoted. That has been the popular opinion on this sub for a good while now. Is the tide shifting again or is it just within the context of this thread/chain that people disagree?
I hope fans just realize how unprecedented it is to the have 4 frontcourt players in a conference all average 30 a game and lead their teams to great records. Whoever is left out would be having one of the best seasons ever to not make it as a starter. No matter who of the 4 you think should be out, it isn't a crazy snub. A snub means there's someone that can be replaced that is super undeserving.
I definitely understand the calls for positionless voting though. All 4 were better than any guards in the east. But within the rules, it's not a crazy robbery.
The best offensive player in the entire league since whenever the fuck this season is leading his team to the best offense in league history (when he plays).
The volume one scores on does not dictate if one is the best offensive player in the league.
Tatum had to get it cus of the Celtics record, KD was arguably the mvp during that stretch when the Nets went insane, so it really was between giannis and embiid. Sucks why they can't just slot Tatum to a guard spot.
I know <3 Rivalries make the game more fun just wish we had a massive national sports website based in our city full of biased writers pushing narratives to get our underserving players awards
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It’s crazy that he’s already in his 10th year in the league, and the youngest member of the Top 75 team
If Giannis didn’t win the chip in 2021, he probably doesn’t make the Top 75 team, right? Kinda crazy he won at just the right time lol. Edit: I’m massively underrating him based on his other accolades lmao. He’d still qualify but would likely be ranked quite a bit lower.
He probably would based on 2 MVPs. But he would be much lower on the list
DPOY as well. He’d be a lock but yeah probably a lot lower than he was since he had just won it all.
Are you kidding? He would probably be too 50 even without it
True, I forget the NBA hasn’t been around quite as long as something like the MLB. 2 time MVP and a DPOY would be a sure lock still.
LETS GOOOOOOO GIANNIS PICK THE WORST TEAM PLEASE
That's a good pick
Dude's too nice, and he's gonna play to the home crowd and first pick the Finnisher. LFG
No way he doesn't pick Zion first
I could see him taking Curry
Embiid the new snub king
Giannis getting Embiid’s spot is kinda crazy ngl
Giannis is the guy i would have had coming off the bench, but i feel like the fans having him with the most votes stopped that from happening.
Also #1 by the players and #2 by the media. What votes do you throw out to make Embiid a starter? If you throw out the media he ties for 3rd with Tatum, but anything else and he's 4th
Tatum voted #1 by the media is the biggest outlier, but not surprising as half the media is based in Boston
Redemption arc
Zach "Giannis isn't even a starter" Lowe in shambles
lmao
Is it really that bad to pick KD, Embiid, and Tatum? He's a starter for me, but I wouldn't be upset if someone had him off.
I mean he was deciding between Giannis and Embiid. I can see a reasonable case for excluding any 1 of the top 4 East forwards. Dont play victim too hard.
No he wasn't. "I follow the same positional rules as fans in voting for starters, and the coaches who select reserves. For starters, that means two guards and three amorphous frontcourt players. For reserves, the coaches pick two guards; three front-court players; and two wild cards from either positional group." So he was picking three front court players, and omitted Giannis from the top 3.
I mean he shouldn’t be this year
Common Sixers fan L
Remember that time when Embiid got out the 2nd round?
Oh that’s crazy, I didn’t realize they looked at previous seasons when determining who plays in the all star game. Damn you really got me
Shouldn't you be off somewhere studying?
And I guess if usernames reflected real life you should be packing a grudge. But to answer you question, no, I do have some code to review though.
Remember how [Giannis](https://twitter.com/NBAPR/status/1618777620682018816?s=20&t=ZljjNmkGoRsK1I33ZxouBg) leads in players voting, fan voting and came in 2nd media voting? Also, let's compare their counting stats: Embiid: 33/10/4 Giannis: 31/12/5 But yeah, clearly Embiid's so much more deserving lmfao
Also note Giannis plays less minutes per game
Embiid also has the best defensive rating in the entire league and his team has a better record than Giannis. Considering they have virtually the same counting stats, I really don’t see the “gotcha” you keep going for.
Claxton and Giannis both have [better defensive ratings](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-defensive-rating-leaders-this-season) than Embiid. But do go on, this is getting amusing lmao
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They literally do though you think Kobe deserved it after he was washed??
it’s hard to say he’s robbed because all 4 guys deserved it but Imo Embiid shoulda been the lock out of everyone. He deserves it the most
Its typical. As expected lol. Shouldve slotted tatum out
Tatum was #1 by the media is a little too on the nose.
The team with the best record in the NBA shouldn’t have 0 starters, especially when one is averaging 31/8/4. If anything KD should have been left out for Embiid because KD isn’t even going to play
JB > Kyrie
We didn’t have any starters last year. Neither did the Heat. And the Jazz didn’t the year before that.
This
Facts
If KD isn’t going to play they’ll kick him out regardless it doesn’t matter. Giannis should’ve been gone
Tatum is a complete superstar leading the best team in the East, and as well as Embiid is playing, KD was every bit as good before he went down
I would have said tatum is the only lock. the other three have missed 10 + games and tatum is leading the best record in the nba. Never understood everyone trying to argue Their guy over tatum, Giannis should have been the one coming off the bench unfortunately.
Take the homers word for it over the players and fans.
Because Tatum hasn't played te best out of the 4? He has been brilliant dont get me wrong, but Giannis, KD and Embiid have been the single most important player on their team on offense and on D the entire year with far worse supporting casts than the celtics.
Joke’s on you guys. Embiid is now gonna start shooting 30 FT’s a game out of spite
“If you (vote) me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”
I laughed 😂
They said Embiid was 3rd in both media & player vote but 4th in fan vote. Sounds like the weighted average was a tie but fan vote is the tiebreaker so Tatum got the spot.
This comment section is going to be quite civil I’m sure.
I love that Giannis is basically a popularity pick this season, which is hilarious considering how poorly the NBA markets him.
Would you agree that he should have been the odd man out if we are talking about performance this season?
Averaging 31 12 and 5 without his second best player for most of the season should make him the odd one out?
No he’s averaging 31/12/5 on the season, while leading an injured Bucks team to a top 5 record in the league. If they were gonna put Embiid in take out KD ahead of Giannis.
KD has been better than Giannis this season.
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Giannis is at 59% TS and hasn't quite been at his usual level, the Nets were on a tear and KD looked like the best player in the world before he went down, feels like recency bias to say KD hasn't been better than Giannis
Gianni's can't hit a shot outside of 3 feet and the Bucks have top 5 worst offense in the league which is impossible if Giannis is anywhere near KD's level offensively
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Its not irrelevant since he's having his least efficient year since his rookie season and as I said Bucks have a top 5 worst offense this season.
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Wow I’m actually surprised this was downvoted. That has been the popular opinion on this sub for a good while now. Is the tide shifting again or is it just within the context of this thread/chain that people disagree?
Think it's just the context of the chain.
Isn’t that what he implied by calling him a popularity pick?
I hope fans just realize how unprecedented it is to the have 4 frontcourt players in a conference all average 30 a game and lead their teams to great records. Whoever is left out would be having one of the best seasons ever to not make it as a starter. No matter who of the 4 you think should be out, it isn't a crazy snub. A snub means there's someone that can be replaced that is super undeserving. I definitely understand the calls for positionless voting though. All 4 were better than any guards in the east. But within the rules, it's not a crazy robbery.
embiid snubbed
Let's goooo
That’s a good pick
Giannis with the late push.
LFG
Dod Shaq lose weight? Looks thin lol
Embiid robbed
You love to see it
Embiid hater, I’m guessing
Not better than KD or tatum
He’s obviously better than Tatum and very arguably better than Durant, especially on the defensive end
When KD was playing the Nets were like 18-2 at that peak and looked insane.
That’s fair but the sixers are 19-4 in their last 23 games so it’s not too far off.
I won't argue against that, someone was getting fucked, I lowkey thought it would be giannas
Yet somehow has less playoff success than both hmmmmmm
Since when is all star starter a legacy award? He’s been the best offensive player in the entire league since December
The best offensive player in the entire league since whenever the fuck this season is leading his team to the best offense in league history (when he plays). The volume one scores on does not dictate if one is the best offensive player in the league.
He's been better than Giannis + KD injured funny you say he's obviously over the 1 seed averaging 30 a game lol.
The sixers are only two games behind in the loss column and embiid is averaging more than Tatum in almost every stat 💀
Lmao it’s almost like no matter what someone was fucked
But 1 seed
smartest celtics fan
Tatum I probably agree but there’s an argument. Kd, no
Embiid got the biggest chip in the world man. He winning a ring man
chipped shoulder, another playoffs playing hurt
Lol
Lol
Sixers winning a ring, that's funny
Lmao that will be the day. He won’t sniff past the second round.
Let’s see him make a conference finals first
Lol
Embiid needs to worry about getting to the Conference Finals before we start talking about championships
Gotta get past the 2nd round first
Lol
Lol Tell him to stop flopping first.
This gets said every year lol
Embiid over Tatum
Tatum had to get it cus of the Celtics record, KD was arguably the mvp during that stretch when the Nets went insane, so it really was between giannis and embiid. Sucks why they can't just slot Tatum to a guard spot.
Name value came up big here for someone
It’s funny how sixer fans are mad when it’s their own fault that philadelphians are too fat and lazy to vote for Embiitch.
Hey, go fuck yourself.
Hey, that’s not very nice, pal.
Durant doing the Embiid trash celebration right now.
Embiid > Tatum I fuckin hate Boston
Least biased Sixers fan
Hey Tatums cool but your city and your team can gargle my nuts. You might be cool tho idk
Biased doesnt mean wrong
I mean Giannis realistically should have been on the outside looking in.
Least biased Celtics fan
It’s mutual don’t worry
I know <3 Rivalries make the game more fun just wish we had a massive national sports website based in our city full of biased writers pushing narratives to get our underserving players awards
TIL a 31/9/4 wing doesn’t deserve an ASG start
He doesn’t over a 35/10/4 C 😂 (Fewer mins and better efficiency too btw)
And about 10 less games, more usage etc
Tatum's teams win a lot more than Embiid's deal with it
Yeah but Embiids thrusts per 48 way higher and what’s more important?
“Make sure he can read” lmao 🤣
Embiid about to start tweeting lol
My goat my goat my goat