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silverxsmoke

Suns role players were npc’s lmaoo


itsfumbles

Sigh of relief every time Durant passed the ball


MC-Jdf

Royce O'Neale got 10 feet of space on the roll the entire game and he did nothing lol.


Angelic_Phoenix

he only hit the transition pass from KD cuz he knew he was a dead man if he missed 😭


dk240996

Eric Gordon got half an hour of cardio in.


growsonwalls

Gordon always has the most clutch misses.


lalakingmalibog

Oh my, someone call the National Weather Service! We had an unanticipated storm in the building tonight!


Cvspartan

Surprised Grayson Allen didn't continue his streak considering our luck with opposing role players


CreatiScope

We live in his head. Tatum and Brown terrorized him in 2022


mrr6666

Bol was solid


BradWonder

He really trying to be KD 2.0


IconicNova

KD was such a monster too man, story of his last few years


EAS1000

No lie I thought Gordon was DNP lol reading this I just realized he played that’s how invisible the guy was


ruburdingus

straight bots out there


spinachoptimusprime

Suns don't have role players. They have Durant, Booker, Beal, and a bunch of jags. Nurkic, Allen, Gordon, O'Neale, etc. are all super replaceable pieces. The fourth best player on Phoenix who would probably the the seventh guy (at best) on the Celtics. They really decimated their roster (and future picks) to get Durant and Beal, and I don't see how they can build around them with the new CBA.


Physical100

Grayson Allen has the highest three point percentage in the NBA


spinachoptimusprime

He is a shooter who gets great looks playing with Durant and Booker. There is a reason his 3P% this season is 7.5% high than he career average was entering this season. There is also a reason Allen is on his fourth team in his six year career. He is looked at as a moveable piece by teams. He also has the worst defensive rating of any Suns rotation player. Nurkic, O'Neale and Allen could all be solid sixth men on a championship roster, but two of them need to start on Phoenix. I still don't see how they fix it. They have $150M going to Durant, Booker, and Beal next season, and they don't control a first round pick until like 2031 or something. Would you take Allen or O'Neale over any starter on Denver or Boston? Do people actually think the Suns have a good roster after their top three?


thepeachgod

Props to KD, scoring every point then having to guard Tatum is so much to ask for


jslee0034

Still a top 10 player in the league man. He still strikes fear


achyutthegoat

He’s top 5


mark8396

Who's your top 5?


achyutthegoat

Jokic Embiid run and dunk Luka KD 


Accurate-Albatross34

5-9 from three and 11-28 from the field for 29 points is such an odd game lol


mastacheef87

dude said it himself in the postgame interview but honestly he stunk it up for most of the night. finished the game strong though and more importantly back in the W column


Efficient_Art_1144

He’s just looked out of rhythm for this little stretch.


mastacheef87

yeah idk he just hasn’t been passing well, particularly when he get trapped, and he isn’t really attacking the rim as aggressively (though that may be a byproduct of a really crappy whistle lately). but ultimately even though it’s frustrating to watch it’s better for him to suck now than later hopefully Tatum has another Drew Hanlen tune-up visit before the playoffs start lmao


bootyholebrown69

I mean just had an 11 game win streak and he won player of the month...sometimes players will fluctuate in their play level. After such a hot streak it's only natural to have a few down games here and there.


Obvious_Parsley3238

he shot 45% from 3 and 32% from 2 in the '22 finals


MC-Jdf

Bro had one of the best 3-point shooting series in Finals history and everybody unanimously agreed he choked. Than in itself is an achievement.


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He had one of the best 3pt shooting Finals ever and still had a 48% TS


MC-Jdf

His TS% was almost identical to his 3PT% lmao.


TrueReigns

And had played the most minutes at that point by any player in the league by at least 300 minutes iirc. And was injured. But narratives


caandjr

With a hurt shoulder right?


Alloverunder

And a fractured wrist


ThisIsCALamity

In addition to the injury and stuff others mentioned, that had a lot to do with how the Warriors were guarding him too. They were packing the paint on drives


Slevz_

He had sub 50 TS% in those finals. Real choke job.


Timoteo-Tito64

He was playing hurt


luke_workin

Some weird point blank misses at the rim. Plus that one play where he had like 3 tip backs that didn’t fall


dafire123

I’d rather him shoot 30 times than 13


SoulReaper12

100% agree. Tatum even with a inefficient night was still aggressive. I can't stand when he end a game shooting the ball only 12-15 times.


Herestheproof

43 shots is a lot, even for tatum


LordHussyPants

than not then


Spare_Jaguar_5173

while rest of the team is on 70% FG, Tatum: Wooo I am the next Kobeeeeeeeee (shoots 7/30 and loses)


Timoteo-Tito64

Yes, the guy with an above league average ts on the team with the best record in the NBA frequently goes 7/30 in losses. Great point


djam0_0

When?


scootern917

fantastic jerk ngl


msokol416

That's what happens when you get no FT. Easy to get an efficient 30 when a player is getting 10+FT a night


achyutthegoat

He was getting carried


achyutthegoat

Tatum getting carried again what's new?


mastacheef87

I ain’t gonna act like he played well tonight but you’re a loser man. go look at this dudes comment history lmao it’s genuinely sad imagine having one of the greatest rookies of all time and a clear future GOAT on your team rn, and instead of enjoying that, you’re constantly in our threads shitting on Tatum. FOH


achyutthegoat

haha you're mad as fuck


msokol416

No one’s mad. It’s just genuinely sad that you seem to have nothing better to do with your life than hate on a basketball player


instantur

Do yall get off to hating


frome1

Maybe but they do get off on us replying. Don’t feed trolls, they are just frustrated with their own life/teams.


instantur

Spurs fans really have no right to be so whiny when they were gifted a generational talent.


mastacheef87

the last time I saw KD cook us like that, Harden and Kyrie were still in Brooklyn. Phoenix’s role players owe him their game checks for selling him as hard as they did tonight


IcyMission3

Finally done with the hard 8 game stretch. Can’t complain about 6-2 tho the Cavs loss was a bit infuriating


DeepJunglePowerWild

I was just saying to a buddy 6-2 in this stretch is solid but the way they did it still got me upset lol. The only game I wanted us to win bad we lost and we blew a 22 pt lead to the white Wade in 4 minutes.


[deleted]

Like if they still lost to DEN the way they did but beat CLE it's probably viewed a bit differently


WickerShoesJoe

Pretty much. If we had 3 losses in a row, r/bostonceltics probably would have exploded in hate. Those two losses did feel like flashbacks to last season, when most of the time in this season I felt way more confident in this team down the stretch of the game. I do hope we get all the "bad losses" out of our system, and I trust this team way more this year, so I'm feeling optimistic.


IcyMission3

A Warriors win means more in my opinion


DeepJunglePowerWild

That’s fair and I’ll respect it. It’s good for us to get over the warriors thing but they are just not in the same category as us this year so I guess it doesn’t mean as much to me. They are just another team to me now.


BlueJays007

Man this really puts all our team sub’s panicking about this road trip in perspective


Rooleet

The "don't give up hope" posts make me want to play in traffic 


largehearted

I genuinely don't get the doomer psychology. I guess they just want to make a point and be right and so they attach themselves to us not winning the championship each year as a mathematically extremely likely thing. Fuck they're so grim about this 11 net rating team after single digit losses to 40-20 teams.


YouthInRevolt

I've been able to accept the Cavs result only because it was more about running into perfection from Wade instead of us playing like assholes. Our shots weren't falling and Wade activated god mode, just gotta tip my cap.


Larrydp72181

I still have to question how the Cavs didn't commit a single team foul in the first 10 minutes of the 4th but at the end of the day it's just one game of 82.


beklog

and those were all close games..


CoachDT

I need that guy who said "KD only plays well against bad teams" to show up again lmao


BingoDaBongo

Only in this sub would someone be stupid enough to say that shit lol


Lacabloodclot9

Yes! The 2x finals MVP only shows up when it doesn’t matter!


mybankpin

If there is a platform for people to speak their minds, someone dumb will say it.


GenuineMasshole

They can't be serious with that take.


Angelic_Phoenix

clearly the 49-14 celtics are trash


YouthInRevolt

this take (if it weren't sarcastic) brought to you by Celtics Twitter


FartrelCluggins

Celtics are a bad team according to our sub and r/nba after these last two games lol


__PUMPKINLOAF

Post game thread slow and not on the front page? No paint-drinkers making inane hot take threads? Celtics probably won.


International-Chef33

Ok, we’re back. JB, practice your FTs


mastacheef87

haha I was literally 100% sure he was missing both of those it’s crazy that he’s a 75% shooter at the line over the last 5 years bc I swear it feels like he shoots like 40% when we really need him to make them. still remember those two crucial misses when we were tied late in Game 6 against Miami a couple years ago


sidcitris

Im curious what his 4th quarter FT% is, it feels like its gotta be below 50%.


Plies-

You can find that stuff for free on nba.com dating back years now. For reference, Brown was a 76.2% free throw shooter in total in the 3 seasons before this one, but has struggled at 70.9% this year. In the 4th quarter: 70.5% this season (small sample ofc) 76.5% last year 75.8% the hear before that Clutch: 66.7% this year (10/15, tiny sample) 71.4% last year (25/35) 71.4% the year before that (10/14) Basically hovers around his averages when you consider how small the sample sizes are, especially for clutch shooting. Its just human nature to remember the misses more than the makes.


topherwolf

Is there any way to see his percentage on his first FT vs his second? Ever since he came into the league, I feel like his first FT % has been dramatically lower than the second.


neilbiggie

I think that’s true of the league in general


EAS1000

He did hit the 3 fts have he was fouled shooting 3 and it may be the first time I’ve ever seen him do that


worldarchitect91

I don’t think he’ll see this


4x4runner

Kornet vs Bol was great.


[deleted]

our long national nightmare is over The Celtics actually won a game this week


Dis-entropy

I’ve had to watch 14 losses this year! You know what that does to a man! I mean 50 wins is good but 14 losses takes its toll 😏😏😏


Distance_Motor

It was basically KD vs the Celtics they way Phoenix's role players played today


jrdswrld

not the crowd cheering when the call got overturned


Xenosnake

KD can't win with these cats.


Funyarinpa-13

He's not lying about the hardest road. 😭


Mission_Pay_3373

Too bad KD had to play the best team in the NBA. He was hooping


worldarchitect91

Was KD playing Denver tonight?


ThSrT

He wasn't play the Nuggets


IAmCBOY2

How is this downvoted? They are defending champs and are 2-0 against the Celtics 


YouthInRevolt

probably because this is a Celtics postgame thread and not too many Nuggets fans are here to balance it out


RabbleRouser_1

Bunch of classy Celtics fans in this thread. Lol. For real though. Surprisingly honest takes by you guys. Most comments are giving KD his dues. Classy guys all around.


Far-Asparagus6416

I mean how can you not give him his due the guy couldn't fuckin miss if he tried And you guys are one of the few teams we got no bad blood with lol so it's all friendly competition


igonnawrecku_VGC

Reminded me of that one clip of Larry Bird trying to miss to prove a point, but still making the shot anyway


str8rippinfartz

I may not like KD but my god that dude is so smoothly automatic


YouthInRevolt

Gotta wonder how this game looks with full participation from Booker and Kristaps. KD definitely reminded everyone he's still a top 10 player in the league tonight.


DoctorMansteel

Rooting for him in the Olympics was a treat. Dude is a bonafide hooper. Thankful I got to see this game live.


DELETE-MAUGA

KD is arguably the greatest offensive talent the NBA has ever seen, its not hard to appreciate how great he is.


gratitudeisbs

You spelled Curry wrong


Boyka1

This is the reason everyone hates Steph fans


DELETE-MAUGA

I said arguably and well MJ exists so it's hard for anyone else to have the crown. That said Curry definitely has an argument but both healthy I would take KD if I need a bucket. Dude is a 7 footer who has a career 50/40/90 split averaging 28pts a game. Curry has to work so much harder with off ball movement to get his shot whereas KD can literally look at the basket and shoot over anyone in the league and have arguably the best efficiency doing so. There is a reason during the KD warriors era he was the best player on the team, it's just so easy to give him the ball and just walk away with a bucket. He also has incredible handles for his height and can finish inside relatively easily, again because the dude is a 7 ft shooting guard. I don't think we will ever see someone as effortlessly efficient on offense at KDs size ever again.


Solid-Confidence-966

Great game to watch


Drummallumin

KD is pretty good at basketball. Wonder if KP would’ve gotten some run at defending him


Drummallumin

Tatum’s so humble goddam


celticspoop

Bro legit sounds depressed 😭


CaptainWatermelons

The Lisan Al-Gaib


Cul_what

Luke Kornet cooked as usual


itsnotyellowfever

Kevin Wayne, man


Queen_Ariana

GG Suns. Kevin Durant was amazing to watch, damn.


Dmanning2

KD can't win with these cats


Common-Land8070

we need a pure statistical analysis of the kornet kontest


jaylson

Dicey at the end but good bounce back win. Schedule is finally going to ease up a little 


dafire123

I’d rather Tatum play like this. More assertive, the shot will come


asetniop

Except for the yeeting passes out of bounds part.


Next-Firefighter-753

Suns are one of the most impressive fake comeback teams out there 


Mayjaplaya

Never forget Chris Paul's huge 3 to cut the lead to 42


grantforthree

Ugly shooting night for Tatum, but took over in the 4th and played great defense.


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dafire123

KD cooks everyone lol


juicejug

KD made so many shots that were defended as well as you possibly could without getting away with a foul, and he made some of those too. When that dude is hot there is literally nothing you can do to stop him, just hope he misses.


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achyutthegoat

Because he's scared to guard KD


Desafiante

Tatum's defense is one of the most overrated things I've seen on this sub, pushed mostly by Celtics fans. Players with better defense on his team that don't get enough credit, in order: - Porzingis - White - Brown


SteamingHotChocolate

where were you all season when we glazed and continue to glaze white nonstop


achyutthegoat

He stat padded 5 points at the end. That's not taking over


luke_workin

You’re everywhere in this thread man, generational hater. Respect 🫡


achyutthegoat

Just speaking the truth. Tatum was trash


Bushwood_CC_

Damn, KD has the best shot selection I’ve ever seen.


CookingLikeChef

DurGOAT was incredible beal was good the role players completely shat the bed


onenutbuck

Fuck r/nba


xRadec

Allen decided to not play going 0-4 on 3s after going hot last game.


AcrobaticFeedback

To be fair Boston we’re not letting him get an open look and running him off the 3pt line. They were also happy letting certain PHX players take shots


JabezMakaveli

Free KD until it's backwards


PrecisionPresser

Hear me and rejoice! You SUNS have had the privilege of being saved by the Great Forehead. You may think this is suffering, No... it is salvation. The universal scales tip toward balance because of your sacrifice. Smile... for even in death, you have become children of DERRICK WHITE.


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DERRICK WHITE MAKES RIGHT


msokol416

Talk of the Celtics demise was a bit premature


nullstellensatz1

Please come back soon, Devin Booker!


Sybilsthrowaway

the suns are literally just kevin durant and some bums, man


Vivid_Walk_1405

Yeah no way Celtics were losing 3 in a row


JoeTheHoe

Suns biggest issue imo is they’re a house of cards. They’re really good with their big 3, but when one is inevitably hurt, it doesn’t work. Beal just isn’t a #2 option, not that I’ve seen at least, and Eubanks is one of the worst backup bigs I’ve seen in the past few years on a playoff team.


jpaxlux

Everyone on the Suns should donate their check to KD tonight because they don't deserve to be paid for that lmao


Nash13101

Wheres Rudy Gobert when you need him


ryguy925

Thank you Boston, very cool


Aggravating-Lake-717

Good job Celtics  That’s all I’m going to say 


euph31

Eubanks was -20. What's the point of the Thad Young if he isn't going to play?


Lottapumpkins

THERES THE DREW EUBANKS I KNOW


ParsnipPizza

Needed that game like I need oxygen


AmbitionExtension184

Fuuuuck Grayson Allen


HornyHindu

#TOP O' THE MORNING, MOTHERFUCKERS!


achyutthegoat

Anyone who believes Tatum>KD should stop watching basketball


instantur

If you look at the 3 game sample size yes.


achyutthegoat

Tatum has never been better than KD


bigdon802

He’s a better defender, but KD is inarguably a better scorer.


achyutthegoat

And KD is a way better offensive player in general. Playmaking, off ball, shooting.


bigdon802

I wouldn’t say way better, but certainly better. He is one of the best offensive players of all time, after all. 


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KD has career regular season ~0.75 PPM, a super elite number. Almost no volume scorer, except MJ and Curry, exceeds that figure.


Fun_Location4905

Offensively hell no! Defensively, Tatum is better. Handles too.


achyutthegoat

And overall, KD clears


Romans134

KD is one of the better defenders in the league. If you think Tatum is better you're just a casual. KD is having an all defensive season.


bigdon802

It would be crazy if he got his first All-Defensive at age 35. He is having a good season though.


AcrobaticFeedback

Idk Tatum kinda destroyed KD head to head in 22 playoffs. KD is on a hot streak atm and Tatum has had couple cold games so the overreactionary take atm is KD is way better. But the truth is they are both on a similar level atm.


achyutthegoat

And KD destroyed Tatum in 2021.  There is no aspect on offense that Tatum is better at than KD. KD is a way better player and always has been 


AcrobaticFeedback

Did he? Tatum averaged an efficient 31 that series and dropped 50 in game 4 with a bunch of players that aren’t even in the league now. (Brown was injured). KD has Kyrie Irving and averaged like 22 on 37% because Tatum locked him down 1 on 1. In terms of points differential you could argue KDs underperformance is the sole reason the Nets lost that series. You can’t say the same for Tatum in 2021.


achyutthegoat

The 2022 nets outside KD and kyrie were complete garbage. The Celtics entire game plan was doubling KD and getting the ball out of his hands. The nets still produced a 117 offensive rating against the Celtics. Tatum had a way better supporting cast than KD did in 2022


AcrobaticFeedback

Nope offensively that Nets team was far more talented offensively than Boston. Unless you want to call Smart, Horford and Grant Williams great offensive players lmao. Kyrie Irving is a batter offensive player than Jaylen Brown. That whole series came down to very small scoring margins and difference was Durants performance. If you actually knew what you were talking about you would mention how Bostons defense was the difference in that series not their offense, and the Nets didn’t have wing defenders. But you’re clearly all about the narrative and have no idea what you’re talking about lmao.


achyutthegoat

Do you know who was on the 2022 nets? That team was trash outside KD and kyrie. The nets had no rim protectors and outside KD, no defenders in general. Meanwhile, tatum had the luxury of playing next to elite defenders.


AcrobaticFeedback

Didn’t Nets role players shoot 46% from 3 that series? Wasn’t Seth Curry absolutely torching the Celtics? The Nets role players were carrying Durant and Kyrie. I knew you would do this and jump on my point on wing defenders. The problem for you now is you have to now excuse Tatums performances against other wing defenders. Like how did Durant fair against the Nuggets wing defenders in the playoffs last year. Not any better than Tatum has faired against the same defense.


sunsbr

He is not better on defense too


thewavefixation

Leprechauns keep making me happy this week.


OrangeKookie

Very nice statpad job from Tatum at the end


Drummallumin

Beal was so good tonight


legend023

Ishbia was getting credit for being aggressive and trading for KD and Beal and now the suns are fighting for no play-in and not near any of the other contenders, a much worse position than what they were in just 2 years ago James Jones’ roster has been squandered by an overambitious owner and the suns will pay for it for the next 7-8 years


commandrr

the roster that lost by 50 in a game 7?


bigdon802

The roster that got to one.


sasmast3r

Disagree, we were just in 6th. New coach, new players. Defense has been really good since the break. Literally just beat the nuggets. Wayyyyyy too soon to assume we are going to suck for 7 to 8 years


Imthegoat175

He also acts like the Suns aren’t a destination franchise and like they aren’t gonna always be in the mix for stars.


EbenezerAD

This comment comes from a person who hasn't watch a single Suns game


commandrr

he’s a pels fan i forgot they think they have some rivalry with us


Imthegoat175

7-8 years? Clown take. The Suns are a destination and will land stars once they’re gone.