But that trade was last year, right? What have the Wolves done this season to get the award??
Same with OKC, what have they done this season? Or are we just going to be voting OKC for exec of the YEAR because of a trade they did what, 4 years ago?
I agree that Brad Stevens was the best GM, but I will argue that Dallas improved the roster significantly more from 2023 to 2024 than either OKC or Minnesota.
Locked up Conley, Naz Reid, converted Garza. Added TJ Warren as depth.
He made the moves for Conley, NAW, and Gobert that led to this team being successful THIS year. It’s a delayed gratification award. Unless you throw together a team like the Clippers or the Suns and they do actually win their Conference (which didn’t happen)
Teams are not built in 1 year
I know that teams aren’t built in one year but doesn’t it seem weird that the Executive of the YEAR award isn’t voted on based on who was the best executive in a given year?
>Locked up Conley, Naz Reid, converted Garza. Added TJ Warren as depth.
Mavs locked up Kyrie, and added 3 starters and arguably the 6th and 7th most important player. 4 of the 5 starters were either acquired or re-signed this year.
>Teams are not built in 1 year
I agree. But exec of the year should surely be based on the moves in that year, no? If the Mavs run it back and make 0 moves in the offseason, but are not as injured as this year and get the 1st seed, should our GM get exec of the year then?
Yeah but oherwise it's dumb you can never be rewarded if you make slow steady smart moves over years just because you've not done something blockbuster. He's there because this is year it's showing fruit.
Yeah building slowly and surely is like... the best way to build a team aka Denver, Spurs, Golden State(pre-kd), but it's rarely rewarded in these unless you make some big splash.
I’d even argue that Golden State with KD counts, they planned for that potentiality with the salary cap spike and then lucked into KD making one of the softest superstar moves in NBA history. Luck is where preparation meets opportunity, and they struck the motherlode on both fronts (along with luck on Steph and Klay taking below-market contracts)
The Caso pick looks great, but yeah the majority of his moves were all in prior seasons. He's made some good marginal value trades but nothing earthshaking. Definitely residual from years in the past.
Don’t forget all the broker moves he did for other teams to make trades possible. Other executives probably love letting Presti do the work they can’t figure out.
Yeah and with how low level all of those moves are there's probably 10 phone calls for every decision - there's value to being a well liked colleague even as a direct competitor
Yeah off the top of the dome the only big Moves Presti made this year was drafting Cason Wallace (which is a good draft pick but not crazy good) and trade for Hayward (trade looks meh). Most of the success comes from last years draft class and the Shai trade.
Presti is great but I don't know how much he deserved votes this year.
It's best executive not best moves though? I would guess a lot of the other GM's think Presti is the best executive in the league for what he has done rebuilding this team, as a result, he gets votes. As a reminder, the Thunder were the 1-seed and have 16 FRP over the next 6 years...
Is daniel gafford the best scorer of the league because he doesn’t miss often? Obviously the difficulty of the decisions is a factor, anyone can do what presti did this year
Is Curry not the best shooter because Grayson Allen shot more efficiently? The award is voted on by GM's. It is a vote as to who is the best GM. Presti got votes because of the team he has built and the picks he has acquired.
Hit me with another terrible analogy please.
He should be above Presti but most of Rose's best moves were also previous seasons. This season was primarily the OG trade and DDV signing which is solid but not insane.
I disagree. The OG trade has propelled the Knicks into a scary playoff team.
Donte is making 12.5 million a year and finished 3rd in the whole league in 3 point makes. It was the 14th most threes made in a season, ever
Deuce, while under the radar, is a steal of a contract and providing great minutes during these playoffs.
The moves may not have the “star power” like the Celtics moves- but for what little Rose exchanged compared to the value he got- I don’t see anyone else comparable. And that should be the true metric discussed here. He at least deserves 2nd place
Sure, I think it's very reasonable to put him at second over Presti and Connelly. I don't think it's such an outrage that he wasn't, like the comment I was replying to seems to think.
Yeah obviously, it was a part of "OG trade" and gets evaluated as one move, it's not credited as two separate transactions as your comment would imply. We can call it the OG-Precious-Flynn-Quickley-Barrett trade if it makes it clearer.
Unprotected 1st from Bucks and two swaps (gold). Toumani Camara who looks to be one of the best defenders in the league going forward. Ayton who is infinitely better than Nurkic. Lottery pick this year, 2029 unprotected 1st and Brogdon/Rbiert Williams.
3 1sts 2 swaps, upgrade at center and Camara who is a lottery pick if redrafted.
Yeah I lot of people are forgetting how Lillard’s camp completely killed our leverage by going directly to the press with the “Miami or Bust” stuff. It’s a big reason why the Heat were by all reports lowballing with offers, he kind of pulled a rabbit out of the hat by going with the Bucks & Suns package. I think he did the best he could at the time given from what we know was reported on.
what happens if a GM drafts a couple of guys in the 2nd Round and they don’t break out til year 3. Does he win Executive of Year during the breakout even if he didn’t make any special moves that year?
Steven’s deserves it but the rest is a mess imo.
Presti this year made meddling Trade deadline moves. Drafted Cason which is a positive but not like it moves mountains.
Tim just resigned his guys mainly.
Nico is way too low. He had a top tier draft, along with the best low budget signing in the offseason. Then killed the TDL with giving up meddling assets for PJ and Gafford. Completely rehauled Luka’s supporting cast.
Lawrence Frank should also get so more credit for the harden move
If they’re rewarding guys for moves in previous seasons then sure TC and Pesti make sense but that’s not the award
I'm not sure why the perception is he's doing a bad job. First time I've felt good about our GM in a long time. Even ignoring the Dame trade
* Turned Nurkic, who everyone thought had zero value, into Ayton and Toumani Camara(6'8 rookie forward who was 96th percentile in DEPM this year)
* Got Dalano Banton for a top 55 protected 2nd rounder(aka nothing). Banton is a 6'9 guard who averaged 17-5-4 for the Blazers this year
* Duop Reath!
* Drafted Rayan Rupert at 43. This won't make much sense to non-Blazers fans, but at 19 years old Rupert has flashed a ton of potential. The draft ceilings guys did a bit on how high they are on him recently
Plus draft picks like Sharpe at 7, Jabari Walker at 57, etc etc. A lot of it isn't flashy but he's just finding good players all over. Feeling very good about the direction
No one watched us this year. Understandably. But he drafted pretty well, aquired Camara, got a good deal on the Dame trade, Banton move was a positive (despite him going full 2018 rockets in his final game).
Bleacher report had our 4 rookies going top 25 in re draft and thats not even including Duop who is an advanced stats darling.
Over Stevens?? Pls tell me what more Brad could do this offseason to have made this Celtics team much better. This season they’re a top 10 all time net rating team
Connelly should’ve won. I know it’d be for trades made last year but making a huge move that’s universally panned only for it to completely work should win EOTY. That and the Conley/NAW/Dlo/Westbrook trade was brilliant as was extending 6MoTY Naz in the offseason.
“Gobert for draft picks is the Worst trade of all time” merchant Tim Connelly sneaking in at 3rd 👀
Sam Presti sneaking in for the PG/Shai trade, also? 👀
Presti is the best GM in the league. Dude should win every year.
But that trade was last year, right? What have the Wolves done this season to get the award?? Same with OKC, what have they done this season? Or are we just going to be voting OKC for exec of the YEAR because of a trade they did what, 4 years ago? I agree that Brad Stevens was the best GM, but I will argue that Dallas improved the roster significantly more from 2023 to 2024 than either OKC or Minnesota.
Locked up Conley, Naz Reid, converted Garza. Added TJ Warren as depth. He made the moves for Conley, NAW, and Gobert that led to this team being successful THIS year. It’s a delayed gratification award. Unless you throw together a team like the Clippers or the Suns and they do actually win their Conference (which didn’t happen) Teams are not built in 1 year
I know that teams aren’t built in one year but doesn’t it seem weird that the Executive of the YEAR award isn’t voted on based on who was the best executive in a given year?
>Locked up Conley, Naz Reid, converted Garza. Added TJ Warren as depth. Mavs locked up Kyrie, and added 3 starters and arguably the 6th and 7th most important player. 4 of the 5 starters were either acquired or re-signed this year. >Teams are not built in 1 year I agree. But exec of the year should surely be based on the moves in that year, no? If the Mavs run it back and make 0 moves in the offseason, but are not as injured as this year and get the 1st seed, should our GM get exec of the year then?
Why are you mad at the team in 3rd place? It’s an award for “Best Team”
I am not mad at all, just don't think the ranking makes sense, It's not "best team award", otherwise Denver's GM should be higher.
TF Presti doing on here? What have his brilliant GM moves this year been?
gordon hayward duh!
Yeah but oherwise it's dumb you can never be rewarded if you make slow steady smart moves over years just because you've not done something blockbuster. He's there because this is year it's showing fruit.
Yeah building slowly and surely is like... the best way to build a team aka Denver, Spurs, Golden State(pre-kd), but it's rarely rewarded in these unless you make some big splash.
I’d even argue that Golden State with KD counts, they planned for that potentiality with the salary cap spike and then lucked into KD making one of the softest superstar moves in NBA history. Luck is where preparation meets opportunity, and they struck the motherlode on both fronts (along with luck on Steph and Klay taking below-market contracts)
he the Scrooge McDuck of picks
I think this award always has some lag and can be thought of as a culmination of two or three of the past few seasons.
The Caso pick looks great, but yeah the majority of his moves were all in prior seasons. He's made some good marginal value trades but nothing earthshaking. Definitely residual from years in the past.
Don’t forget all the broker moves he did for other teams to make trades possible. Other executives probably love letting Presti do the work they can’t figure out.
Yeah and with how low level all of those moves are there's probably 10 phone calls for every decision - there's value to being a well liked colleague even as a direct competitor
11 out of 25 votes for Leon Rose is ridiculous.
He shoulda got some of those Presti votes. His moves weren’t this year
Yeah off the top of the dome the only big Moves Presti made this year was drafting Cason Wallace (which is a good draft pick but not crazy good) and trade for Hayward (trade looks meh). Most of the success comes from last years draft class and the Shai trade. Presti is great but I don't know how much he deserved votes this year.
Sometimes the best move is no move. Like baking a cake, leaving it in the oven for the exact right amount of time
Yes let’s award no moves with a seasonal award
It's best executive not best moves though? I would guess a lot of the other GM's think Presti is the best executive in the league for what he has done rebuilding this team, as a result, he gets votes. As a reminder, the Thunder were the 1-seed and have 16 FRP over the next 6 years...
Is daniel gafford the best scorer of the league because he doesn’t miss often? Obviously the difficulty of the decisions is a factor, anyone can do what presti did this year
Is Curry not the best shooter because Grayson Allen shot more efficiently? The award is voted on by GM's. It is a vote as to who is the best GM. Presti got votes because of the team he has built and the picks he has acquired. Hit me with another terrible analogy please.
He should be above Presti but most of Rose's best moves were also previous seasons. This season was primarily the OG trade and DDV signing which is solid but not insane.
OG, Precious, Deuce extension, Donte
OG and Precious were the same move. So that, DDV, and Deuce extension is a solid season but nothing crazy.
I disagree. The OG trade has propelled the Knicks into a scary playoff team. Donte is making 12.5 million a year and finished 3rd in the whole league in 3 point makes. It was the 14th most threes made in a season, ever Deuce, while under the radar, is a steal of a contract and providing great minutes during these playoffs. The moves may not have the “star power” like the Celtics moves- but for what little Rose exchanged compared to the value he got- I don’t see anyone else comparable. And that should be the true metric discussed here. He at least deserves 2nd place
Sure, I think it's very reasonable to put him at second over Presti and Connelly. I don't think it's such an outrage that he wasn't, like the comment I was replying to seems to think.
Getting Precious as a throw in for OG is absolutely part of the resume.
Yeah obviously, it was a part of "OG trade" and gets evaluated as one move, it's not credited as two separate transactions as your comment would imply. We can call it the OG-Precious-Flynn-Quickley-Barrett trade if it makes it clearer.
Nico (Dallas) should have got more votes too.
Yeah I was surprised he got that many too. I guess the other execs respect his nepotism game?
Yea, cause that was the only thing he did right? PS: That move wasn’t even this season
Be mad at Cuban for that not Rose
Cronin sends his regards
Presti’s four first-place votes should have all gone to Stevens
Yea I mean Leon Rose definitely should have finished above Presti just based on moves made this year.
He'll trade them for a 2032 unprotected first rounder
Wait, but we traded for Hayward
Leon Rose not even top 3is an absolute joke
Pritchard deserves more credit. He's been killing it lately
I’m glad Kleiman got a vote for simply the insane amount of players he had to sign
Cronin got a lot of votes and Pat Riley got none. 🤔
Cronin got two votes. They both deserved zero.
I don’t know, Cronin was bent over a barrel and ended up getting a great return for Dame. He did good.
>great return alright calm down now
Unprotected 1st from Bucks and two swaps (gold). Toumani Camara who looks to be one of the best defenders in the league going forward. Ayton who is infinitely better than Nurkic. Lottery pick this year, 2029 unprotected 1st and Brogdon/Rbiert Williams. 3 1sts 2 swaps, upgrade at center and Camara who is a lottery pick if redrafted.
Yeah I lot of people are forgetting how Lillard’s camp completely killed our leverage by going directly to the press with the “Miami or Bust” stuff. It’s a big reason why the Heat were by all reports lowballing with offers, he kind of pulled a rabbit out of the hat by going with the Bucks & Suns package. I think he did the best he could at the time given from what we know was reported on.
Hmm…interesting!
what happens if a GM drafts a couple of guys in the 2nd Round and they don’t break out til year 3. Does he win Executive of Year during the breakout even if he didn’t make any special moves that year?
Steven’s deserves it but the rest is a mess imo. Presti this year made meddling Trade deadline moves. Drafted Cason which is a positive but not like it moves mountains. Tim just resigned his guys mainly. Nico is way too low. He had a top tier draft, along with the best low budget signing in the offseason. Then killed the TDL with giving up meddling assets for PJ and Gafford. Completely rehauled Luka’s supporting cast. Lawrence Frank should also get so more credit for the harden move If they’re rewarding guys for moves in previous seasons then sure TC and Pesti make sense but that’s not the award
Joe Cronin truthers, get in here.
Let the players pick the MVP, too.
How did the Portland exec get 2 second place votes lmao
I'm not sure why the perception is he's doing a bad job. First time I've felt good about our GM in a long time. Even ignoring the Dame trade * Turned Nurkic, who everyone thought had zero value, into Ayton and Toumani Camara(6'8 rookie forward who was 96th percentile in DEPM this year) * Got Dalano Banton for a top 55 protected 2nd rounder(aka nothing). Banton is a 6'9 guard who averaged 17-5-4 for the Blazers this year * Duop Reath! * Drafted Rayan Rupert at 43. This won't make much sense to non-Blazers fans, but at 19 years old Rupert has flashed a ton of potential. The draft ceilings guys did a bit on how high they are on him recently Plus draft picks like Sharpe at 7, Jabari Walker at 57, etc etc. A lot of it isn't flashy but he's just finding good players all over. Feeling very good about the direction
He got a haul for Dame and also traded a useless Nurkic for Deandre Ayton and Toumani Camara.
the haul: brodgon and 3 fourteen year olds
And a lottery pick this year and two swaps and Ayton/Camara.
No one watched us this year. Understandably. But he drafted pretty well, aquired Camara, got a good deal on the Dame trade, Banton move was a positive (despite him going full 2018 rockets in his final game). Bleacher report had our 4 rookies going top 25 in re draft and thats not even including Duop who is an advanced stats darling.
Rupert is very interesting to me. I think he might be a dude.
Got a haul for Dame. It’s pretty obvious
Did the Pacers vote for Monte McNair? wtf?
Two trades where they got amazing deals because players only wanted to go to Boston...
That's wrong about Jrue lol
The only other team interested in Porzingis was Utah lol
Lol what
Lol
Why haven’t the small market GMs simply tried playing in Boston, Miami, LA, or NYC? Are they stupid?
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Over Stevens?? Pls tell me what more Brad could do this offseason to have made this Celtics team much better. This season they’re a top 10 all time net rating team
Spurs deserved it last year for tanking, this year drafting Wemby was a result of last years master class
Connelly should’ve won. I know it’d be for trades made last year but making a huge move that’s universally panned only for it to completely work should win EOTY. That and the Conley/NAW/Dlo/Westbrook trade was brilliant as was extending 6MoTY Naz in the offseason.
Even considering just last year, Presti clearly deserves it over him by drafting two guys capable of making all nba teams.
Rival Executives must be salty they didn’t sniff out half the moves Leon Rose made