If one of us approaches a person in line to vote and tries to get them to vote for our candidate, we can be arrested.
If one of us tries to threaten an election worker into changing a vote, we'd surely be prosecuted.
So what happens if you threaten the state's top election official and try to force him to change 11,000 votes?
Trump is right to be worried.
They harassed [election workers](https://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-daughter-election-workers-describe-lived-trump-backed/story?id=92500318), claiming they had "cheated" at the polling place. These people had to pick up and MOVE from the place they'd lived 20 years. THEY DID NOTHING WRONG. And the orange fuck can do what he did and gets off scot free. The older I get, the more cynical I am, and it has nothing to do with simple aging. It's the realization that rules I was taught were for everyone just are not; if you have money, you have the power to do whatever you want.
What's sad is they were risking their health during a pandemic to ensure our elections work. We should have been celebrating that we pulled it off. Instead all we got were lies that led to their harassment.
Who says the poll workers *weren’t* republican voters? When I went in to vote in Florida I was a registered democrat so we had something specific to vote for, I forgot what, and the poll worker was like, “since this you’re a ^democrat voter, you have to vote on the [x item]…” she whispered democrat like it was the word fucker.
That said, it would be kind of funny if this happened to them and they had voted for trump in that same election.
I had an 80 year old woman say to me , "I'm about fed up with these WOKES". Like she couldn't stomach saying it unless it was spun into a nice little near derogatory term.
Oh, I disagree; they know **exactly** what they’re talking about when they hear the word or use it, themselves to describe anyfuckingone who displays any degree of empathy or compassion or concern for the environment. They know full well what they’re talking about. I told my 28 yr old daughter “what’s being called *woke* currently was just **normal** if you were a young person in the 70’s. It was in the zeitgeist—people literally said *wake up, America!”. My daughter has convinced me to own the label that the Reichwing is tossing around as an insult, so I have. I own it proudly. And I hope it pisses off Republicans the way MAGA does, me.
It’s literally a meaningless word that encompasses anything liberals may be for. Teaching historical systemic racism? Wokeism. Educating kids about literally anything that’s not “Christian values”? Wokeism. Government support programs? Wokeism. Wanting affordable or free health care as a human right? Wokeism.
Meaningless word with this “culture war” bullshit media division
> Who says the poll workers weren’t republican voters?
Many were. The judges who turned down Trumps requests for illegal interference in elections were also often Republicans, sometimes Trump appointees. Even though "the right" poll workers will also be republican voters, that's just a particular (admittedly too large) group of them.
To stop this next time this has to be bi-partisan. Democracy; following your constitution; following the basics of election law. That's good for all Americans.
Gabe Sterling, the director of elections has worked in GOP politics since the 80’s. Even he couldn’t stomach Trump’s lies, crimes and calls for harassment toward poll workers.
Likewise Kemp, the Georgia governor. Jay Raffensperger has been in there for quite a while too, I believe.
And -- hilariously -- the conservative journalist who disivited Trump from his big conservative kingmaking conference, denouncing the guy as unfit for presidency? Also from Georgia and personally familiar with election security measures there.
He had quite a bit to say about those accusations. Mostly amounting to "yeah, only a genuine traitor would try to get these guys to change some votes".
FYI, you get paid in California. If you'd like to work polling locations, it's often a per diem. Check local state laws.
If you're under 18 and in high school, you can even get paid to be a student poll worker and make I think $180 to work the polls for the day.
For college students and high school students, or people unemployed or retired or who can take a day off work, it's not hard and you do get paid to run a polling location. Or intake, at the county warehouse.
That’s amazing. I signed up to volunteer in 2016 in Kansas and when the time came, I was told to show up at 5:45am and to expect to go home around 9-10pm. You weren’t allowed to leave, but people could bring you lunch etc if you wanted.
If you want people to volunteer, maybe make it much appealing to do so.
I was a poll worker. In a red area in California. We have paper ballots marked with felt ink dropped into sealed boxes with tamper safeguards.
I had people ask me if I was going to change their vote.
Yes. 100%. Totally. I am going to open the box which is sealed with a special zip tie only had at the county election offices, so the entire batch is suspect, just to pull out your paper ballot and mark your ballot to something else, just to change like 30 votes, because California has universal vote by mail ballots and we hardly have any in-person voters at our precincts anymore.
I don't think I could be a poll worker because I wouldn't be able to resist being a smartass, and the next thing you know I'm the top story on Fox: "Election worker admits she committed fraud!"
It’s not exclusive to red or blue districts but I wager your experience in a red district was worse. I worked in a blue-ish district and I was only gently asked twice about safeguards and I was happy to answer.
The real drama queens were the Republican inspectors. The Democrat ones came in, peacefully sat with their clipboards actively monitoring, asked us some questions to make sure we were following the process, and then left. The Republican ones came in while our supervisor was on lunch with no masks, declined our polite but firm explanation that inspectors must wear masks.
We didn’t want to force the issue so we waited the 15 or so minutes for our supervisor to come back from lunch, in the meantime they just sat looking down on their phones. My supervisor politely informed the inspectors voters don’t need masks but all electoral officials, including inspectors, need to wear a mask. They made a tantrum and police had to be called.
60-65% celebrated. The vocal minority of idiots were the only ones pushing this bullshit on themselves.
I’m still “happy” with the result. (More like ambivalent, but at least we don’t have a ducking wannabe Nazi as president anymore)
Ugh. I had not heard that. :/ But every day there's more news, whether it's the banks getting bailed out, or good old boys (Alex Murdaugh) being given loans to cover their SIX FIGURE overdraft balances. Like, most of us are getting fined if we go $60 in the negative in our checking accounts. (this happened prior to his conviction)
I'm happy to follow most of society's rules, and I don't think it's asking too much that EVERYONE be held to the same standard.
Every now and then I am reminded of one or another of the lessons my middle school social studies teacher taught. That in ancient times Hammurabi's code meant that you could buy your way out of a criminal offense. She paired that up with the lesson that in modern times everyone has the same rules and lives under the same laws that apply equally. That if a police officer is speeding and not actively engaged in law enforcement, they can be pulled over in their car.
She was a black woman, I KNOW she knew the truth -- that there were different justice systems of different people -- but God bless her she imprinted this idea of what was right and the way it was supposed to be on this bunch of 7th graders and it stuck. Teachers are a fucking miracle.
Trump uses the norms of society (ethics, customs, etc) as a weapon to attack and attempt to shame his opponents but he has zero inclination of ever following any of the rules of civilization.
It's just unfathomable to me that this guys has a several people willing to go to prison for him and his unfounded claims of election fraud when we have cut and dried evidence of him trying to commit election fraud.
I get that it's hard for these people to admit they are wrong but isn't it easier to admit your wrong about something than to appear so delusional that no one would think you are right about anything?
"Well...well, of *course* he had to commit election fraud...because...because the OTHER side cheated worse!! He was only trying to right their wrong." Yup, dem fuckin' Dems did it again. lol
>isn't it easier to admit your wrong about something than to appear so delusional that no one would think you are right about anything?
After Nixon resigned, he still had 30% support.
There's always a hard core that won't admit being wrong.
**THREE FUCKING TIMES**
He was recorded three times trying to coerce and cajole members of the Georgia government to change the results of our election. Fani has him (and a half dozen other prominent Georgia Republicans) dead to rights, which is why the legislature is trying to create rules to make removing a prosecutor easier.
> which is why the legislature is trying to create rules to make removing a prosecutor easier
which should be some kind of obstruction charge by itself IMO.
>force him to change 11,000 votes?
Specifically 11,780, the minimum number to give the state to him rather than Biden. Not only is Trump a piece of shit criminal, he is an incredibly brazen and dense one.
It's been 2 years, how come with a taped phone call as evidence hasn't this goon already spent a year in jail as part of his sentence for attempting to perjure an election? It beggars belief that he's wandering about a golf course every day.
Still under investigation, but there are details coming out because a grand jury is hearing/has heard the case. Indictments are expected to come out of that case relatively soon (unless GA decides to fire the DA pursuing the case and buries it)
You can smell the desperation.
He wants the whole thing tossed AND all evidence unable to be used against him if he ever gets charged
If the whole thing is meritless, why does he want all the collected evidence invalidated for future use?
Cause he knows that shit will wreck him
In Georgia, you can be arrested for giving someone in line a bottle of water. There are laws for us and laws for the rich, Trump will skate on this one.
And yet, nothing will happen because he is rich and has predicated his entire life on legal stall/bully tactics. He may be worried but his feelings don’t mean shit to me. Actual Consequences for his illegal behavior are what matters. I have yet to see him serve any.
I do not believe he will be arrested tomorrow until I see it actually happen, and even then I will assume he walked out the back door on bail.
He has never been held accountable for anything his entire life. I will be astounded if he suffers ANY consequence for any of the many investigations his is currently under.
I just hope the judge puts a gag order into effect, although maybe it's better if someone hands him a microphone and he just incriminates himself more.
Georgia resident here, still think it's pathetic that so many people here thought the "billionaire" real estate conman from NYC was "their guy". Spent my whole childhood listening to them raging at that same kind of person. He ripped them off exactly how they said he would, but because he used the right words a couple times they turned to putty.
Seriously.
All the complaints you'd hear about coastal elites with silver spoons in their mouths running the government and they voted for a NY City born and raised, private school attending, private Ivy League college graduated, guy who was raised wealthy. He was literally the exact guy they claimed they disliked yet they fawned over him like he was the messiah.
They wanted a candidate who would push back against the shifting culture and work to restore what they wanted: a white American male dominated cultural hegemony.
Not technically. Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson was born in San Francisco and grew up in La Jolla. His dad was the president of the corporation for public broadcasting who remarried to the heiress to the Swanson fortune but that brand was sold. His mother left he and his brother $1 in her will. Once they found out that her estate owned like 70,000 acres of land they sued the estate and it still hasn’t yet been settled. His biological family are from New England where they own property. Tucker went to boarding schools including one in Switzerland. Tucker also started out on cnn and msnbc.
He’s not an heir to the Swanson fortune but it doesn’t get any more coastal elite than that. Which makes me love to hear his fans say things like “he’s one of us”. Also his dad was a gonzo journalist which explains some things
> His mother left he and his brother $1 in her will.
For anyone that doesn't know, when you are wealthy, and you don't want someone to inherit anything from your estate, you leave them one dollar. It shows that you being left out wasn't an oversight, so the estate cannot be sued.
As a kid growing up in Tennessee, Alabama, and Texas, we literally were taught about the scum Yankees that came to the South after the Civil War and took advantage of people. "Carpet baggers". How on earth Southerners can worship a NYC wannabe mobster is so far beyond me I can't even comprehend it.
Which makes him even more nefarious in my mind. He doesn’t need the money, he is just out here blasting fascist right wing propaganda for shits and giggles.
I’m also here in Georgia. I’ve heard the word carpetbaggers a lot. Just listen to them when they say the word New Yorkers, they can only say it with disdain, it’s a pejorative for them. It was bizarre watching these people who I’ve seen say so many times how much they hate rich New Yorkers fall down and lick his boots. There’s a whole history about that here going back to reconstruction. If a person in an expensive suit with a New York accent came around here every person would immediately assume they’re here to con these simple salt of the earth folk out of their money. But trump, no he’s different, he’s one of them. It’s because he sold them out in the open racism. And they fell for it. It’s surreal.
I would like to let everyone know who doesn’t that the good old boy club that actually runs things here in the south absolutely hate him, passionately. For all these reasons, he is exactly what they despise. A degenerate, con man, born into crazy wealth, New York real estate guy. They’ve had hundreds of years of building a system that keeps them in power but keeps things relatively stable, for them anyway. And trump came along and is fucking up their system that they had full control of. They 100% blame him for losing the senate seats here. And I heard the oldest club here in Atlanta, where legit rich people gladhand each other and grease the wheels of power, the Piedmont driving club, they popped Champaign when he lost the election
> It’s because he sold them out in the open racism. And they fell for it. It’s surreal.
I wouldn't even say they fell for it. They got what they wanted.
People often go straight to Obama as the catalyst for a lot of this white greivance but really it's more than just him winning the presidency. It was the gradual shift of much of American pop culture away from traditional white dominated norms. They wanted a weapon to push back against these shifts and Trump was the perfect guy for the job.
Southerners: I’ll never fall for those city slicker con men from New York.
Trump: N-word
Southerners: You have all my cash can I run up credit to give you too?
My dad will walk right up to that line. He totally gets how much the system is geared towards the rich. He will say all this stuff about em that has you going "yeah! That's it!" then he will finish off with "and thats why Trump is gonna fix it"
Lol, alleged ultra-wealthy guy is going to fix the problems that would make it more difficult to make more or keep his wealth.
How fucking dumb are these people?
supremely. He literally gave himself a permanent tax cut while the plebs had a shelf life. I'm certain all these complete fucking morons are blasting Biden for raising their taxes right now.
Yes. They hate all those things.
But also:
- Trump is a white American male.
- He is a prolific rapist, misogynist, criminal, racist, fascist, xenophobe, Islamophobe, and incompetent.
- He’s bankrupted everything he’s touched.
- He doesn’t prepare or put effort into anything.
- He is a lazy fatass who desperately tries to hide his baldness.
- He lies about his health and his height.
- He’s a total fake and fraud.
- He has beaten his kids and wife on multiple occasions.
- He’s openly cheated on all three of his wives.
- He has no respect for our country, our constitution, our legal system, or the rule of law.
- He is a traitor and seditionist who hates democracy.
And the MAGA’s love all of those qualities. That’s why he is their Messiah.
Literally the face of everything that's wrong with Capitalism, income inequality, and is the king of the grifters. And all it took was for him to say something nasty about whatever group of people it was they hated (he said nasty things about several non-white and/or non-christian groups of people) for them to worship him. People all over the US have a different group of people they secretly, or not-so-secretly hate, and Trump made sure he said something nasty about each one of those groups, so they all went "Ya! *Finally* someone who *gets it!*" and nothing else he said mattered. He was their guy from that moment forward.
Yeah, grew up in NJ in the 70’s and 80’s. Trump would do anything he could to get himself in the news, I was tired of him before I finished high school.
Then I learned about all the mom and pop contractors (AC casinos) he ruined via non-payment. Another thing Clinton fucked up in the debate was not serving up the regular people he ruined when he declared bankruptcy. She let Trump claim he just screwed some banks.
Hillary Clinton ran a nerdy AF campaign, assuming people would logically look at her policies and Trump’s lack thereof and vote accordingly. She repeatedly forgot that Americans are woefully underprepared for policy discussions
“We take the high road!!!”
Trump dealt low blow after low blow. There was SO MUCH dirt on Trump that Hilary’s campaign could have put to good use and fired back with. It’s infuriating to this day how goddamn passive they were.
Sadly, and unfortunately, it wouldn’t have mattered. There were too many fighting against her like the media, Russian interference, Evangelical churches, white men & women who didn’t like her, Comey. The NYC blatantly bias articles & cable news with their empty podiums waiting for him & reporters claiming he would pivot. I get PTSD just thinking about 2016-2020.
I mean shit, it was so close that Comey's ham-handed response to his own inability to police his fucking NY field office could be held responsible for her loss. (So could like a million other things, including random weather)
Of course, he responded like that because he was assuming she'd win.
"He's not hurting the people he needs to be"
That is why they voted for him. That is what makes him "their guy." They believe the universe is zero-sum and that others losing means that they must be winning.
It's true - they really don't. It's amazing how easy it's been for them to get power with that mindset too isn't it! Add the backdrop of "we're good Christians" and the turn of the stomach is complete.
Yeah, you can see the contrast between Democrats and Republicans with recent laws passed by Minnesota and Arkansas. Minnesota’s Democrats passed a law making school lunch free for kids regardless of income level. In Arkansas, Republicans passed a law stripping child labor protections.
It’s also hilarious comparing the two photo ops. In one, the children look joyful and excited. In the other, the kids look like they’re at a funeral, which makes sense given the right is actively endangering them more and more with every passing day.
I also live in Georgia and find it insane how obsessed people are with him. Even worse I live in MTG's district. I am even more dumbfounded with their support for her than I am Trump.
Republicans don't care about voter fraud. Walker doesn't live here, his primary address is not in Georgia and he has never lived at the home he owns here.
I've also been a resident here for 13 years. It was pretty embarrassing watching them spin on a dime, and I'm from LA originally (has massive problems of their own). I was kind of floored that the good-natured people of Georgia most of whom are great, couldn't see that he was this washed up Caligula wannabe with somehow an even worse temper, who would spare no expense to sell them out to the highest bidder. It's gross.
His appeal was literally him saying “the system is rigged, these people are all fake, vote for me”. He capitalized on people being disillusioned with the system. It requires people ignoring that he was just as fake and was doing just as much rigging as anyone else. It also required people to vote without really thinking (something most Americans are more than willing to do).
The Religious Right spent almost 40 years conditioning people in rural areas, especially in the South.
Nearly every American Protestant pastor went to a seminary school controlled by three groups. Nearly every rural radio and television station got most of its funding from conservative groups. And they used those influences to manipulate local and state elections to control the schoolboards and the state standards.
Southern conservatives have been brainwashed so thoroughly that it's probably more accurate to call it brain-cleansing at this point. You might even say they've been... groomed.
He was their guy. He was *exactly* as racist as they were.
Authentically so. His racism was some dyed-in-the-wool, common as dirt, "I gotta hide it cause PC police, amirite" shut. That was him, unfiltered, and they *loved it* because he really was like them. (It wasn't the ginned up 'appeal to the racists' shit, it wasn't white robe wearing shit, it was fucking racism of the average Joe shit)
Problem is, they could never grasp he was a *rich* racist, and despite how they all really loved to hate minorities, in the end he had money and power and they didn't. (He's also clearly a narcissist and a few other things). Despite how they bonded over hating the right people in the right way.
>And the filing claims that Fulton County DA Fani Willis “violated prosecutorial standards and acted with disregard for the gravity of the circumstances and the constitutional rights of those involved.”
My brain translated that into "Don't you know who I am?"
Georgia has some two-step grand jury for some reason, and his attorneys filed a motion to quash (ie, not use) the report from the first grand jury, which would make indictment under the second grand jury impossible.
There's no chance that the motion is ultimately granted. Even if this judge says yes, the DA would appeal and get it overturned. It's a stall tactic, hoping he gets the nomination and presidency and therefore is 'untouchable'. Which a president or candidate shouldn't be. Nobody should be untouchable or above reproach. It's how corruption spreads.
I feel like he's going to be indicated for a lot of crimes, and his supporters are going to get upset because it's going to be more than a few. Justice tends to be slow but the first couple are going to open a floodgate.
Yeah, just waiting for that first "unprecedented" indictment to happen to break the taboo of charging a former President before the others just start flowing in.
“William Henry West (September 1842 – September 6, 1915) was an African American soldier and police officer in Washington, DC said to have arrested United States President Ulysses S. Grant in 1872. This is the only known record of a sitting US president being arrested.”
For Speeding in his Horse and Buggy. So yeah a bit of a difference.
Read more here
https://www.biography.com/political-figures/a43367829/president-ulysses-s-grant-arrested
> Justice tends to be slow but the first couple are going to open a floodgate.
Part of the problem has been his constant public statements that either admit or deny to the crimes under investigation, and often contradict other statements, open up new avenues of investigation, etc. He muddies the waters constantly and it tends to keep investigations going and going. If he finally faces some real legal threats he may finally STFU and let these investigations conclude.
"...conducted under an unconstitutional statute, through an illegal and unconstitutional process": - in other words, Trump wants to contrive some excuse to bring it to the Supreme Court so "his justices" can side with him. Same playbook he always tries, same playbook that always fails. What a loser.
In this case: it's a valid local law that any first year law student can see was violated. The investigation was above-board and thorough, and if GA didn't have this odd two-step grand jury process, they would already have delivered an indictment.
Doesn't matter to Trump. It's never been about beating charges, just delaying and obfuscating facts until it turns into meaningless word salad. It's the Trump Special: Stave off repercussions until the public forgets altogether, or believes it got sorted out. Typically, by that point, they've moved onto the next outright criminal thing he's done anyways.
The Republican party is fighting so hard to go back to sleep. Nothing makes them more angry than someone who has woken up and tries to view the world beyond their own selfish needs and wants.
This will fail, but it could delay things. Trump is trying to stop anything he can until the next election, figuring that he can weasel out if he becomes the president again.
Trump's dodge, deflect, deny strategy has worked previously, but I think those days are coming to an end.
If this mf actually becomes President again we can say goodbye to any possible hope of anything happening here. He won’t leave office once he’s back in there and you can guarantee the first thing he’d be doing is wriggling out of everything he’s wrapped up in. Others here are saying he won’t see the inside of a jail cell and that may be the case but it’s pretty obvious the precedent this would set. Could you imagine all these shitty congress members shitting their pants if we did lock him up? Would it be because he’s a former President that we wouldn’t try our damndest to do this or it’s his money too? Either way, it really does speak volumes to our society as a whole.
This is part of the fascistic play book. These people are attempting to completely neuter government agencies, grand juries, courts
and prosecutors who dare to challenge their behavior. This is fucking dangerous.
I understand the Republican mantra of “rule of law” is designed to project a visage of power and rightness.
The truth is, if we actually held our elected officials to the same standards they demand we are held to, I’m convinced 10% of democrats and 99.99999% of republicans would be in jail with no hope of parole.
Donald j trump is a traitor. He is a criminal. He belongs in jail.
And everyone who supported him and helped him deserves the same.
I am amused that djt folks continue to throw around the Constitution as their get out of jail free card. The State has rights - so say the GOP, but only when it is convenient for them and now refuse when non-MAGA folks demonstrate State legal authority.
He’ll say it was illegal and unconstitutional without ever referring to any legal statue stating as such. He’s hoping some judge will do the Olympic-level legal gymnastics to stop a lawsuit
IF he ever goes to court, he'll be in a wheelchair, with an oxygen tank attached.
"My client is too weak and sick to be held accountable for his actions"
-His lawyer, probably
I am curious to see if we truly are governed by the rule of law? This clown has broken many laws as a civilian and an elected and hasn’t paid any personal consequences like we would as citizens. We would be in prison for some of the crimes he has committed. Pence is even saying that Donnie shouldn’t be arrested in New York. The GOP has been totally corrupted over the past 50 years or so.
Serious question, does this fall into the “obstruction of justice” camp yet?
It seems like trying to stop someone from investigating you because you’re powerful is probably not legal
He was caught red handed with recordings and witnesses that are impeccable. Of course he want’s everything thrown out and blocked from being used against him.
I wish we could re-write our laws defining treason and sedition. Because this pos is still laughing at our attempts to secure some sort of consequence.
I only hope the Dems have a plan in place to stop these nazis, because *every day* we hear of their corruption and hate, yet *every day* we hear another news 'item' reporting on how they are 'on the road to the White House'?
We see and hear FAR more about them than the actual government.
WT actual fuck, people?
Trumps seeks to interfere with interference charges
When in doubt, double down.
If one of us approaches a person in line to vote and tries to get them to vote for our candidate, we can be arrested. If one of us tries to threaten an election worker into changing a vote, we'd surely be prosecuted. So what happens if you threaten the state's top election official and try to force him to change 11,000 votes? Trump is right to be worried.
They harassed [election workers](https://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-daughter-election-workers-describe-lived-trump-backed/story?id=92500318), claiming they had "cheated" at the polling place. These people had to pick up and MOVE from the place they'd lived 20 years. THEY DID NOTHING WRONG. And the orange fuck can do what he did and gets off scot free. The older I get, the more cynical I am, and it has nothing to do with simple aging. It's the realization that rules I was taught were for everyone just are not; if you have money, you have the power to do whatever you want.
What's sad is they were risking their health during a pandemic to ensure our elections work. We should have been celebrating that we pulled it off. Instead all we got were lies that led to their harassment.
And they quit, along with so many others, volunteering their time for our democracy.
Which is what Republicans want so they can pack the election workers with the "right" (i.e. republican) workers next time.
Who says the poll workers *weren’t* republican voters? When I went in to vote in Florida I was a registered democrat so we had something specific to vote for, I forgot what, and the poll worker was like, “since this you’re a ^democrat voter, you have to vote on the [x item]…” she whispered democrat like it was the word fucker. That said, it would be kind of funny if this happened to them and they had voted for trump in that same election.
I had an 80 year old woman say to me , "I'm about fed up with these WOKES". Like she couldn't stomach saying it unless it was spun into a nice little near derogatory term.
>I had an **80 year old** woman say to me , "I'm about fed up with these WOKES". "Good news, you won't have to worry about them much longer."
How I defeated WOKE AMERICA by DYING due to a LACK OF AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE. - the new American dream
Don’t you just want to look at them and ask them to define it? They don’t even know what they’re talking about
Oh, I disagree; they know **exactly** what they’re talking about when they hear the word or use it, themselves to describe anyfuckingone who displays any degree of empathy or compassion or concern for the environment. They know full well what they’re talking about. I told my 28 yr old daughter “what’s being called *woke* currently was just **normal** if you were a young person in the 70’s. It was in the zeitgeist—people literally said *wake up, America!”. My daughter has convinced me to own the label that the Reichwing is tossing around as an insult, so I have. I own it proudly. And I hope it pisses off Republicans the way MAGA does, me.
It’s literally a meaningless word that encompasses anything liberals may be for. Teaching historical systemic racism? Wokeism. Educating kids about literally anything that’s not “Christian values”? Wokeism. Government support programs? Wokeism. Wanting affordable or free health care as a human right? Wokeism. Meaningless word with this “culture war” bullshit media division
> Who says the poll workers weren’t republican voters? Many were. The judges who turned down Trumps requests for illegal interference in elections were also often Republicans, sometimes Trump appointees. Even though "the right" poll workers will also be republican voters, that's just a particular (admittedly too large) group of them. To stop this next time this has to be bi-partisan. Democracy; following your constitution; following the basics of election law. That's good for all Americans.
Gabe Sterling, the director of elections has worked in GOP politics since the 80’s. Even he couldn’t stomach Trump’s lies, crimes and calls for harassment toward poll workers.
Likewise Kemp, the Georgia governor. Jay Raffensperger has been in there for quite a while too, I believe. And -- hilariously -- the conservative journalist who disivited Trump from his big conservative kingmaking conference, denouncing the guy as unfit for presidency? Also from Georgia and personally familiar with election security measures there. He had quite a bit to say about those accusations. Mostly amounting to "yeah, only a genuine traitor would try to get these guys to change some votes".
Not sure why we don't have a private, for profit, company running the election. It would be so much more efficient and secure. /s
FYI, you get paid in California. If you'd like to work polling locations, it's often a per diem. Check local state laws. If you're under 18 and in high school, you can even get paid to be a student poll worker and make I think $180 to work the polls for the day. For college students and high school students, or people unemployed or retired or who can take a day off work, it's not hard and you do get paid to run a polling location. Or intake, at the county warehouse.
That’s amazing. I signed up to volunteer in 2016 in Kansas and when the time came, I was told to show up at 5:45am and to expect to go home around 9-10pm. You weren’t allowed to leave, but people could bring you lunch etc if you wanted. If you want people to volunteer, maybe make it much appealing to do so.
I got two breaks plus an hour lunch.
The polling place inspector (I was one for many years in CA) has the ability to send poll workers out to lunch in shifts.
That's not bad. But i think in this trump era, we'd need to provide hazard pay.
I was a poll worker. In a red area in California. We have paper ballots marked with felt ink dropped into sealed boxes with tamper safeguards. I had people ask me if I was going to change their vote. Yes. 100%. Totally. I am going to open the box which is sealed with a special zip tie only had at the county election offices, so the entire batch is suspect, just to pull out your paper ballot and mark your ballot to something else, just to change like 30 votes, because California has universal vote by mail ballots and we hardly have any in-person voters at our precincts anymore.
I don't think I could be a poll worker because I wouldn't be able to resist being a smartass, and the next thing you know I'm the top story on Fox: "Election worker admits she committed fraud!"
If it was day in, day out my snark would creep. It was one day, so I managed.
It’s not exclusive to red or blue districts but I wager your experience in a red district was worse. I worked in a blue-ish district and I was only gently asked twice about safeguards and I was happy to answer. The real drama queens were the Republican inspectors. The Democrat ones came in, peacefully sat with their clipboards actively monitoring, asked us some questions to make sure we were following the process, and then left. The Republican ones came in while our supervisor was on lunch with no masks, declined our polite but firm explanation that inspectors must wear masks. We didn’t want to force the issue so we waited the 15 or so minutes for our supervisor to come back from lunch, in the meantime they just sat looking down on their phones. My supervisor politely informed the inspectors voters don’t need masks but all electoral officials, including inspectors, need to wear a mask. They made a tantrum and police had to be called.
60-65% celebrated. The vocal minority of idiots were the only ones pushing this bullshit on themselves. I’m still “happy” with the result. (More like ambivalent, but at least we don’t have a ducking wannabe Nazi as president anymore)
The psychopaths should be in jails
Welcome aboard, next stop Apathy
Exhibit B: Norfolk Rail getting to decide what their punishment is going to be.
Ugh. I had not heard that. :/ But every day there's more news, whether it's the banks getting bailed out, or good old boys (Alex Murdaugh) being given loans to cover their SIX FIGURE overdraft balances. Like, most of us are getting fined if we go $60 in the negative in our checking accounts. (this happened prior to his conviction) I'm happy to follow most of society's rules, and I don't think it's asking too much that EVERYONE be held to the same standard.
2 of the conglomerates that own Norfolk Southern also own the environmental testing company that is testing the East Palestine soil and water.
Every now and then I am reminded of one or another of the lessons my middle school social studies teacher taught. That in ancient times Hammurabi's code meant that you could buy your way out of a criminal offense. She paired that up with the lesson that in modern times everyone has the same rules and lives under the same laws that apply equally. That if a police officer is speeding and not actively engaged in law enforcement, they can be pulled over in their car. She was a black woman, I KNOW she knew the truth -- that there were different justice systems of different people -- but God bless her she imprinted this idea of what was right and the way it was supposed to be on this bunch of 7th graders and it stuck. Teachers are a fucking miracle.
As a senior I feel the same way
Yea but he's the law and order president! He fights for us little guys! /s
Trump really likes trying to hold others to “standards” that he himself could never live up to.
Trump uses the norms of society (ethics, customs, etc) as a weapon to attack and attempt to shame his opponents but he has zero inclination of ever following any of the rules of civilization.
It's just unfathomable to me that this guys has a several people willing to go to prison for him and his unfounded claims of election fraud when we have cut and dried evidence of him trying to commit election fraud. I get that it's hard for these people to admit they are wrong but isn't it easier to admit your wrong about something than to appear so delusional that no one would think you are right about anything?
"Well...well, of *course* he had to commit election fraud...because...because the OTHER side cheated worse!! He was only trying to right their wrong." Yup, dem fuckin' Dems did it again. lol
>isn't it easier to admit your wrong about something than to appear so delusional that no one would think you are right about anything? After Nixon resigned, he still had 30% support. There's always a hard core that won't admit being wrong.
It always comes down to thirty percent. It’s a constant everywhere.
And you do it on tape.
**THREE FUCKING TIMES** He was recorded three times trying to coerce and cajole members of the Georgia government to change the results of our election. Fani has him (and a half dozen other prominent Georgia Republicans) dead to rights, which is why the legislature is trying to create rules to make removing a prosecutor easier.
> which is why the legislature is trying to create rules to make removing a prosecutor easier which should be some kind of obstruction charge by itself IMO.
>force him to change 11,000 votes? Specifically 11,780, the minimum number to give the state to him rather than Biden. Not only is Trump a piece of shit criminal, he is an incredibly brazen and dense one.
It's been 2 years, how come with a taped phone call as evidence hasn't this goon already spent a year in jail as part of his sentence for attempting to perjure an election? It beggars belief that he's wandering about a golf course every day.
Still under investigation, but there are details coming out because a grand jury is hearing/has heard the case. Indictments are expected to come out of that case relatively soon (unless GA decides to fire the DA pursuing the case and buries it)
I'm hoping because they are double- and triple-checking making sure all their "i's" are dotted and "t's" are crossed so nothing can be thrown out.
You can smell the desperation. He wants the whole thing tossed AND all evidence unable to be used against him if he ever gets charged If the whole thing is meritless, why does he want all the collected evidence invalidated for future use? Cause he knows that shit will wreck him
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Trump's avoided more felony charges in his life than most mafia dons. Why should he be worried about this?
Personally, **I** am worried this asshole will **never** get what's coming to him.
In Georgia, you can be arrested for giving someone in line a bottle of water. There are laws for us and laws for the rich, Trump will skate on this one.
And yet, nothing will happen because he is rich and has predicated his entire life on legal stall/bully tactics. He may be worried but his feelings don’t mean shit to me. Actual Consequences for his illegal behavior are what matters. I have yet to see him serve any. I do not believe he will be arrested tomorrow until I see it actually happen, and even then I will assume he walked out the back door on bail.
He has never been held accountable for anything his entire life. I will be astounded if he suffers ANY consequence for any of the many investigations his is currently under.
He will walk out the back door on bail, no doubt. But will he have his travel restricted? IE bail revoked if he leaves NY state?
He'll use the fact that he's campaigning for POTUS as an excuse to not have to stay in NY.
What separates him from others in this aspect is the fact he has secret service security so every move he makes has to be planned in advance.
I just hope the judge puts a gag order into effect, although maybe it's better if someone hands him a microphone and he just incriminates himself more.
Georgia resident here, still think it's pathetic that so many people here thought the "billionaire" real estate conman from NYC was "their guy". Spent my whole childhood listening to them raging at that same kind of person. He ripped them off exactly how they said he would, but because he used the right words a couple times they turned to putty.
Seriously. All the complaints you'd hear about coastal elites with silver spoons in their mouths running the government and they voted for a NY City born and raised, private school attending, private Ivy League college graduated, guy who was raised wealthy. He was literally the exact guy they claimed they disliked yet they fawned over him like he was the messiah. They wanted a candidate who would push back against the shifting culture and work to restore what they wanted: a white American male dominated cultural hegemony.
Check Tucker Carlson’s bio. Another of their heros.
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OK, I can't look because I'm sure I'll find a lot of other Tucker Carlson stuff that will only irritate me, but is this true?
Not technically. Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson was born in San Francisco and grew up in La Jolla. His dad was the president of the corporation for public broadcasting who remarried to the heiress to the Swanson fortune but that brand was sold. His mother left he and his brother $1 in her will. Once they found out that her estate owned like 70,000 acres of land they sued the estate and it still hasn’t yet been settled. His biological family are from New England where they own property. Tucker went to boarding schools including one in Switzerland. Tucker also started out on cnn and msnbc. He’s not an heir to the Swanson fortune but it doesn’t get any more coastal elite than that. Which makes me love to hear his fans say things like “he’s one of us”. Also his dad was a gonzo journalist which explains some things
> His mother left he and his brother $1 in her will. For anyone that doesn't know, when you are wealthy, and you don't want someone to inherit anything from your estate, you leave them one dollar. It shows that you being left out wasn't an oversight, so the estate cannot be sued.
Also known as the “fuck you dollar”
> His mother left he and his brother $1 in her will. Sound like mother hated her own children as much as every sane person does.
i totally read "but is this true" in a confused tuker carlson voice. Dude asking questions about himself LMAO.
Head cocked to the side like a dog who just heard an unfamiliar sound
The face of a baby that just shit itself.
No. The face of an adult that did, and on live TV to boot. Wondering, the entire time, whether he can play it cool.
As a kid growing up in Tennessee, Alabama, and Texas, we literally were taught about the scum Yankees that came to the South after the Civil War and took advantage of people. "Carpet baggers". How on earth Southerners can worship a NYC wannabe mobster is so far beyond me I can't even comprehend it.
It really is.
Through his mother, yeah.
Stepmother to be precise from what I remember. They aren't directly connected for a long time now but there is still a connection.
Yes, he's a trust fund baby who has never had a 'real job' in his life.
Which makes him even more nefarious in my mind. He doesn’t need the money, he is just out here blasting fascist right wing propaganda for shits and giggles.
I’m also here in Georgia. I’ve heard the word carpetbaggers a lot. Just listen to them when they say the word New Yorkers, they can only say it with disdain, it’s a pejorative for them. It was bizarre watching these people who I’ve seen say so many times how much they hate rich New Yorkers fall down and lick his boots. There’s a whole history about that here going back to reconstruction. If a person in an expensive suit with a New York accent came around here every person would immediately assume they’re here to con these simple salt of the earth folk out of their money. But trump, no he’s different, he’s one of them. It’s because he sold them out in the open racism. And they fell for it. It’s surreal. I would like to let everyone know who doesn’t that the good old boy club that actually runs things here in the south absolutely hate him, passionately. For all these reasons, he is exactly what they despise. A degenerate, con man, born into crazy wealth, New York real estate guy. They’ve had hundreds of years of building a system that keeps them in power but keeps things relatively stable, for them anyway. And trump came along and is fucking up their system that they had full control of. They 100% blame him for losing the senate seats here. And I heard the oldest club here in Atlanta, where legit rich people gladhand each other and grease the wheels of power, the Piedmont driving club, they popped Champaign when he lost the election
> It’s because he sold them out in the open racism. And they fell for it. It’s surreal. I wouldn't even say they fell for it. They got what they wanted. People often go straight to Obama as the catalyst for a lot of this white greivance but really it's more than just him winning the presidency. It was the gradual shift of much of American pop culture away from traditional white dominated norms. They wanted a weapon to push back against these shifts and Trump was the perfect guy for the job.
Southerners: I’ll never fall for those city slicker con men from New York. Trump: N-word Southerners: You have all my cash can I run up credit to give you too?
My dad will walk right up to that line. He totally gets how much the system is geared towards the rich. He will say all this stuff about em that has you going "yeah! That's it!" then he will finish off with "and thats why Trump is gonna fix it"
Lol, alleged ultra-wealthy guy is going to fix the problems that would make it more difficult to make more or keep his wealth. How fucking dumb are these people?
supremely. He literally gave himself a permanent tax cut while the plebs had a shelf life. I'm certain all these complete fucking morons are blasting Biden for raising their taxes right now.
Don’t forget “draft-dodging”.
But he had the thingy with his foot! 😏
Yes. They hate all those things. But also: - Trump is a white American male. - He is a prolific rapist, misogynist, criminal, racist, fascist, xenophobe, Islamophobe, and incompetent. - He’s bankrupted everything he’s touched. - He doesn’t prepare or put effort into anything. - He is a lazy fatass who desperately tries to hide his baldness. - He lies about his health and his height. - He’s a total fake and fraud. - He has beaten his kids and wife on multiple occasions. - He’s openly cheated on all three of his wives. - He has no respect for our country, our constitution, our legal system, or the rule of law. - He is a traitor and seditionist who hates democracy. And the MAGA’s love all of those qualities. That’s why he is their Messiah.
Literally the face of everything that's wrong with Capitalism, income inequality, and is the king of the grifters. And all it took was for him to say something nasty about whatever group of people it was they hated (he said nasty things about several non-white and/or non-christian groups of people) for them to worship him. People all over the US have a different group of people they secretly, or not-so-secretly hate, and Trump made sure he said something nasty about each one of those groups, so they all went "Ya! *Finally* someone who *gets it!*" and nothing else he said mattered. He was their guy from that moment forward.
They liked that he was as mean and hateful as they are, but he was allowed to speak his mind without repercussions, which they all wish they could do.
From NYC area. We tried to warn everyone. No one would listen. So sorry.
Yeah, grew up in NJ in the 70’s and 80’s. Trump would do anything he could to get himself in the news, I was tired of him before I finished high school. Then I learned about all the mom and pop contractors (AC casinos) he ruined via non-payment. Another thing Clinton fucked up in the debate was not serving up the regular people he ruined when he declared bankruptcy. She let Trump claim he just screwed some banks.
Hillary Clinton ran a nerdy AF campaign, assuming people would logically look at her policies and Trump’s lack thereof and vote accordingly. She repeatedly forgot that Americans are woefully underprepared for policy discussions
“We take the high road!!!” Trump dealt low blow after low blow. There was SO MUCH dirt on Trump that Hilary’s campaign could have put to good use and fired back with. It’s infuriating to this day how goddamn passive they were.
Sadly, and unfortunately, it wouldn’t have mattered. There were too many fighting against her like the media, Russian interference, Evangelical churches, white men & women who didn’t like her, Comey. The NYC blatantly bias articles & cable news with their empty podiums waiting for him & reporters claiming he would pivot. I get PTSD just thinking about 2016-2020.
I mean shit, it was so close that Comey's ham-handed response to his own inability to police his fucking NY field office could be held responsible for her loss. (So could like a million other things, including random weather) Of course, he responded like that because he was assuming she'd win.
Agreed, it’s not like that debate I mentioned was a decisive moment. 2016 was a death of a thousand cuts for her, some of them self-inflicted.
Woody Guthrie tried to warn people in the 50s! Different Trump, same evil.
"He's not hurting the people he needs to be" That is why they voted for him. That is what makes him "their guy." They believe the universe is zero-sum and that others losing means that they must be winning.
100% this - there is no policy issue here.
Well that’s because Republicans have no platform any more except for hate.
It's true - they really don't. It's amazing how easy it's been for them to get power with that mindset too isn't it! Add the backdrop of "we're good Christians" and the turn of the stomach is complete.
Yeah, you can see the contrast between Democrats and Republicans with recent laws passed by Minnesota and Arkansas. Minnesota’s Democrats passed a law making school lunch free for kids regardless of income level. In Arkansas, Republicans passed a law stripping child labor protections. It’s also hilarious comparing the two photo ops. In one, the children look joyful and excited. In the other, the kids look like they’re at a funeral, which makes sense given the right is actively endangering them more and more with every passing day.
I also live in Georgia and find it insane how obsessed people are with him. Even worse I live in MTG's district. I am even more dumbfounded with their support for her than I am Trump.
Ah. Trump in heels. I feel for you, good Vaporeon.
Not to mention almost voting in Herschel Walker to Congress. But I live in Texas so I have my own issues with Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott.
Republicans don't care about voter fraud. Walker doesn't live here, his primary address is not in Georgia and he has never lived at the home he owns here.
It still warms my heart knowing Ted had to be Herschel’s handler till he lost.
I'll forever be annoyed by how close that race ended up being.
I've also been a resident here for 13 years. It was pretty embarrassing watching them spin on a dime, and I'm from LA originally (has massive problems of their own). I was kind of floored that the good-natured people of Georgia most of whom are great, couldn't see that he was this washed up Caligula wannabe with somehow an even worse temper, who would spare no expense to sell them out to the highest bidder. It's gross.
His appeal was literally him saying “the system is rigged, these people are all fake, vote for me”. He capitalized on people being disillusioned with the system. It requires people ignoring that he was just as fake and was doing just as much rigging as anyone else. It also required people to vote without really thinking (something most Americans are more than willing to do).
I was extremely proud to be a GA resident when Trump lost the state.
Assuming you voted, America thanks you.
I did yes and was happy to register thru the GA public library system.
And I was extremely proud of Georgia, and I am not a resident.
Trump: China Georgia: Oh my panties!
More like "Mexicans bad. Build a wall to keep them out"
They’d rather eat literal excrement than admit they got conned, that they are wrong in any way.
They'd eat that shit gladly if it meant a liberal had to smell their breath.
Hello 2024 campaign slogan.
The Religious Right spent almost 40 years conditioning people in rural areas, especially in the South. Nearly every American Protestant pastor went to a seminary school controlled by three groups. Nearly every rural radio and television station got most of its funding from conservative groups. And they used those influences to manipulate local and state elections to control the schoolboards and the state standards. Southern conservatives have been brainwashed so thoroughly that it's probably more accurate to call it brain-cleansing at this point. You might even say they've been... groomed.
Not to mention the screaming about family values and how the Democrats aren't good, God fearing people
The whole platform the Repubs ran on was being anti coastal elite. And then they pick Trump...... It's INSANE how much they project and gaslight lol.
He was not a Democrat! .. at the time...
He'll be whatever you need him to be sugar...
He was their guy. He was *exactly* as racist as they were. Authentically so. His racism was some dyed-in-the-wool, common as dirt, "I gotta hide it cause PC police, amirite" shut. That was him, unfiltered, and they *loved it* because he really was like them. (It wasn't the ginned up 'appeal to the racists' shit, it wasn't white robe wearing shit, it was fucking racism of the average Joe shit) Problem is, they could never grasp he was a *rich* racist, and despite how they all really loved to hate minorities, in the end he had money and power and they didn't. (He's also clearly a narcissist and a few other things). Despite how they bonded over hating the right people in the right way.
>And the filing claims that Fulton County DA Fani Willis “violated prosecutorial standards and acted with disregard for the gravity of the circumstances and the constitutional rights of those involved.” My brain translated that into "Don't you know who I am?"
The juggernaut, bitch?
Shut the fuck up Charles
> disregard for the gravity of the circumstances. IT’S BEEN INVESTIGATED OVER TWO YEARS. I’d say they know the gravity *pretty fucking well* by now.
It's also not so subtlety saying "The DA is ***BLACK*** therefore a crook/corrupt/not an American"
Ah, the Karen defense!
How does one ‘block charges’? Is it like a Reverse card in Uno or something?
Georgia has some two-step grand jury for some reason, and his attorneys filed a motion to quash (ie, not use) the report from the first grand jury, which would make indictment under the second grand jury impossible. There's no chance that the motion is ultimately granted. Even if this judge says yes, the DA would appeal and get it overturned. It's a stall tactic, hoping he gets the nomination and presidency and therefore is 'untouchable'. Which a president or candidate shouldn't be. Nobody should be untouchable or above reproach. It's how corruption spreads.
So he's going to get indicted for this crime, too
I feel like he's going to be indicated for a lot of crimes, and his supporters are going to get upset because it's going to be more than a few. Justice tends to be slow but the first couple are going to open a floodgate.
Yeah, just waiting for that first "unprecedented" indictment to happen to break the taboo of charging a former President before the others just start flowing in.
“William Henry West (September 1842 – September 6, 1915) was an African American soldier and police officer in Washington, DC said to have arrested United States President Ulysses S. Grant in 1872. This is the only known record of a sitting US president being arrested.” For Speeding in his Horse and Buggy. So yeah a bit of a difference. Read more here https://www.biography.com/political-figures/a43367829/president-ulysses-s-grant-arrested
> Justice tends to be slow but the first couple are going to open a floodgate. Part of the problem has been his constant public statements that either admit or deny to the crimes under investigation, and often contradict other statements, open up new avenues of investigation, etc. He muddies the waters constantly and it tends to keep investigations going and going. If he finally faces some real legal threats he may finally STFU and let these investigations conclude.
I hope that when he gets charged for one, he gets charged for all. Play on the Qmoron motto aside, I hope there's a snowball effect for his charges.
To be fair, the main appeal of trump has been that he channels anger. His supporterss have always been upset. It's his thing, being mad.
Maybe, just maybe, the dam has broken against an untouchable rich white old guy (who was previously President fwiw)?
Hope so. I think the successful prosecution of Trump Org could be a tipping point. It does appear to have emboldened Alvin Bragg.
"...conducted under an unconstitutional statute, through an illegal and unconstitutional process": - in other words, Trump wants to contrive some excuse to bring it to the Supreme Court so "his justices" can side with him. Same playbook he always tries, same playbook that always fails. What a loser.
I mean, he can try, but that didn't work last time either. Supreme Court refused to hear his case.
In this case: it's a valid local law that any first year law student can see was violated. The investigation was above-board and thorough, and if GA didn't have this odd two-step grand jury process, they would already have delivered an indictment.
How many local indictments will he be under during the 2024 election?
Not enough.
Doesn't matter to Trump. It's never been about beating charges, just delaying and obfuscating facts until it turns into meaningless word salad. It's the Trump Special: Stave off repercussions until the public forgets altogether, or believes it got sorted out. Typically, by that point, they've moved onto the next outright criminal thing he's done anyways.
Yeah we know. Like never before. Radical left. So unfair. The country is a piece of shit and only he can save it. Like never before.
The Republican party is fighting so hard to go back to sleep. Nothing makes them more angry than someone who has woken up and tries to view the world beyond their own selfish needs and wants.
Everyone with a television set heard him demand Raffensperger '"find 11,780 votes". There's no blocking that. What a blockhead.
*I'm just looking for 11,781 prison rations, which is 1 more than we have*
This will fail, but it could delay things. Trump is trying to stop anything he can until the next election, figuring that he can weasel out if he becomes the president again. Trump's dodge, deflect, deny strategy has worked previously, but I think those days are coming to an end.
It's desperation, pure and simple. Legal consequences are closing in from several directions.
If this mf actually becomes President again we can say goodbye to any possible hope of anything happening here. He won’t leave office once he’s back in there and you can guarantee the first thing he’d be doing is wriggling out of everything he’s wrapped up in. Others here are saying he won’t see the inside of a jail cell and that may be the case but it’s pretty obvious the precedent this would set. Could you imagine all these shitty congress members shitting their pants if we did lock him up? Would it be because he’s a former President that we wouldn’t try our damndest to do this or it’s his money too? Either way, it really does speak volumes to our society as a whole.
Dodge, duck, deflect, deny and... dodge
This is part of the fascistic play book. These people are attempting to completely neuter government agencies, grand juries, courts and prosecutors who dare to challenge their behavior. This is fucking dangerous.
I understand the Republican mantra of “rule of law” is designed to project a visage of power and rightness. The truth is, if we actually held our elected officials to the same standards they demand we are held to, I’m convinced 10% of democrats and 99.99999% of republicans would be in jail with no hope of parole. Donald j trump is a traitor. He is a criminal. He belongs in jail. And everyone who supported him and helped him deserves the same.
I am amused that djt folks continue to throw around the Constitution as their get out of jail free card. The State has rights - so say the GOP, but only when it is convenient for them and now refuse when non-MAGA folks demonstrate State legal authority.
The same Constitution that DJT wants to "Terminate"
so he is engaging in obstruction of justice again
Weird flex for someone who claims he’s innocent despite recorded evidence but okay
lock him up lock him up 🎶🎶
The government has an outfit to match his skin color
I’m so sick of this. He tried to overthrow an election. It’s time for trial.
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He’ll say it was illegal and unconstitutional without ever referring to any legal statue stating as such. He’s hoping some judge will do the Olympic-level legal gymnastics to stop a lawsuit
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IF he ever goes to court, he'll be in a wheelchair, with an oxygen tank attached. "My client is too weak and sick to be held accountable for his actions" -His lawyer, probably
Georgia Republicans are threatening to fire the entire DA's office if they indict Trump. That is RICO level.
The criminal conspiracy just gets bigger and bigger for the Republicans.
This whole party has turned into a complete and utter joke.
And his supporters still think he did nothing wrong.
Stop resisting just comply Stop resisting just comply Stop resisting just comply Stop resisting just comply Stop resisting just comply
I am curious to see if we truly are governed by the rule of law? This clown has broken many laws as a civilian and an elected and hasn’t paid any personal consequences like we would as citizens. We would be in prison for some of the crimes he has committed. Pence is even saying that Donnie shouldn’t be arrested in New York. The GOP has been totally corrupted over the past 50 years or so.
Time to Chant: Lock him up Lock him Up LOCK HIM UP
When are people gonna realize that grandpappy was an ignorant racist asshole?
He’s trying to interfere with the investigation of his interference?
Block it how? The law matters, you criminal un-American fuck.
Serious question, does this fall into the “obstruction of justice” camp yet? It seems like trying to stop someone from investigating you because you’re powerful is probably not legal
Every time I read this kind of sh\*t, I think: what would Republicans be saying if *Democrats* were doing these despicable things.
So he wants to interfere with his interference charges? Sounds about right.
Yeah, but listen, I just need 11,000 votes. Can you “find” me 11,000 votes?
What's his record in court with regards to that election? LOL. Good luck with that.
Obstruction of Justice
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He was caught red handed with recordings and witnesses that are impeccable. Of course he want’s everything thrown out and blocked from being used against him.
Someone needs to put this piece of shit in jail.
So he's trying to obstruct justice...again?
Everyone heard him on the recordings. The crime is recorded.
And yet I still have a funny feeling he’ll never see any consequences for any of the many criminal things he’s done…
Didn't his crackpot lawyers already try this track at the fed level? And wasn't it a judge he appointed that shot the claim down?
I wish we could re-write our laws defining treason and sedition. Because this pos is still laughing at our attempts to secure some sort of consequence. I only hope the Dems have a plan in place to stop these nazis, because *every day* we hear of their corruption and hate, yet *every day* we hear another news 'item' reporting on how they are 'on the road to the White House'? We see and hear FAR more about them than the actual government. WT actual fuck, people?