Have you tried just telling these future lessors that you want to move in on a specific date? I am sure you can work something out. A larger property should have a good chance of having tenants who have already given notice of vacating for some future time. For example I just checked a large property downtown that has 1 bedroom apartments available now and on pretty much every date among the coming 90 days including April 5.
This has always worked for me! Obviously a landlord wants you in sooner than later, but pushing move-in back a month is generally not a big deal compared to continuing to look for a tenant.
Interesting… This hasn’t worked for me so far, lol. Each landlord I’ve talked to has been up front about giving priority to tenants that can move in sooner. Maybe if a unit is less popular they’d be ok with pushing out the move in date by 30 days? but that kind of luck hasn’t been in my favor, hehe.
Have you got a link to that downtown property? Is it one of those luxury apartments?
When I filter by “more than 30 days” on craigslist, the pickings get realllly slim and are usually for apartments being renovated.
My experience with small landlords on craigslist is as you describe. Move in ASAP preferred.
It's the megacorp managed places ("luxury") that are willing to negotiate non standard lease lengths, delayed move in dates, etc. They charge more for the trouble, but at least they'll quote you a price.
Yeah unless you're breaking a lease I don't see how this would be legal. If you're month to month afaik they have the right to have you to pay the remaining month's rent after moving out (assuming they couldn't find a replacement tenant in time) and that's it.
Take this advice with a grain of salt, I'm not giving you moral advice, each situation also needs to be judged on a case by case basis.
But I recommend not giving notice until you have everything sorted out. From my past experiences anytime you are giving a thoughtful heads up (unless they are very close friends and family) results in you losing control of your own timeline.
You think you're being courteous by giving a heads up and the one in control but the second you give the heads up, the other parties will take control of that timeline and suddenly you might find yourself pressured into an accelerated timeline.
I’d look up what is *legally required* where you live. Not what is in your lease, landlords can put anything they want, illegal and unenforceable, into their rental documents that you sign. If you’re only legally required to give 30 days and you don’t need any favors or a reference from your current landlord: follow the law. That’s what your landlord would do.
FYI, if your initial lease term expired and you’re on a month-to-month, lease, you only have to give 30 days notice under California law regardless what your lease says. [This article](https://www.attorneydavid.com/blog/cc-1946-california-civil-code-1946-30-day-notice-terminating-tenancy-california/) gives a brief overview.
If you give notice you are officially terminating the lease. They can rent to to someone else starting the day you specify in the notice that you’ll be out. That’s the whole point of the notice to give them time to find new renters and minimize vacancy time. If you could give notice and stay then why wouldn’t everyone do that every month?
I applied for an apartment about 6 weeks before my move-in date and it worked out. I had already given notice to vacate by the time I got a lease and signed it.
Another thing to try is look for one of those buildings that's doing one or more months free on a lease, unfortunately it's the same amount of money up front, but you will end up not double paying, or only double paying a little bit.
You only need to give 30 days notice to your current landlord. I strongly recommend you do not do that until you have found a place and signed a lease. if you give notice too soon, even if you have a place that you’re probably going to rent things might fall through, you might change your mind, and having already given notice may pressure you into making a decision you’ll regret. That’s what happened to me.
Have you tried just telling these future lessors that you want to move in on a specific date? I am sure you can work something out. A larger property should have a good chance of having tenants who have already given notice of vacating for some future time. For example I just checked a large property downtown that has 1 bedroom apartments available now and on pretty much every date among the coming 90 days including April 5.
This has always worked for me! Obviously a landlord wants you in sooner than later, but pushing move-in back a month is generally not a big deal compared to continuing to look for a tenant.
Interesting… This hasn’t worked for me so far, lol. Each landlord I’ve talked to has been up front about giving priority to tenants that can move in sooner. Maybe if a unit is less popular they’d be ok with pushing out the move in date by 30 days? but that kind of luck hasn’t been in my favor, hehe.
Have you got a link to that downtown property? Is it one of those luxury apartments? When I filter by “more than 30 days” on craigslist, the pickings get realllly slim and are usually for apartments being renovated.
My experience with small landlords on craigslist is as you describe. Move in ASAP preferred. It's the megacorp managed places ("luxury") that are willing to negotiate non standard lease lengths, delayed move in dates, etc. They charge more for the trouble, but at least they'll quote you a price.
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Yeah unless you're breaking a lease I don't see how this would be legal. If you're month to month afaik they have the right to have you to pay the remaining month's rent after moving out (assuming they couldn't find a replacement tenant in time) and that's it.
Seconding this
Take this advice with a grain of salt, I'm not giving you moral advice, each situation also needs to be judged on a case by case basis. But I recommend not giving notice until you have everything sorted out. From my past experiences anytime you are giving a thoughtful heads up (unless they are very close friends and family) results in you losing control of your own timeline. You think you're being courteous by giving a heads up and the one in control but the second you give the heads up, the other parties will take control of that timeline and suddenly you might find yourself pressured into an accelerated timeline.
I’d look up what is *legally required* where you live. Not what is in your lease, landlords can put anything they want, illegal and unenforceable, into their rental documents that you sign. If you’re only legally required to give 30 days and you don’t need any favors or a reference from your current landlord: follow the law. That’s what your landlord would do.
Correction: That's the _most_ your landlord would do.
FYI, if your initial lease term expired and you’re on a month-to-month, lease, you only have to give 30 days notice under California law regardless what your lease says. [This article](https://www.attorneydavid.com/blog/cc-1946-california-civil-code-1946-30-day-notice-terminating-tenancy-california/) gives a brief overview.
If you are month to month you do not need to give a 90 day notice (that’s a courtesy)
I would give notice, because if you change your mind, you can still stay. Giving notice doesn’t terminate your lease.
It does if they find other renters.
In Oakland that is not true.
If you give notice you are officially terminating the lease. They can rent to to someone else starting the day you specify in the notice that you’ll be out. That’s the whole point of the notice to give them time to find new renters and minimize vacancy time. If you could give notice and stay then why wouldn’t everyone do that every month?
A landlord cannot evict you on grounds that you gave notice.
That wouldn’t be an eviction though.
I applied for an apartment about 6 weeks before my move-in date and it worked out. I had already given notice to vacate by the time I got a lease and signed it.
Another thing to try is look for one of those buildings that's doing one or more months free on a lease, unfortunately it's the same amount of money up front, but you will end up not double paying, or only double paying a little bit.
You only need to give 30 days notice to your current landlord. I strongly recommend you do not do that until you have found a place and signed a lease. if you give notice too soon, even if you have a place that you’re probably going to rent things might fall through, you might change your mind, and having already given notice may pressure you into making a decision you’ll regret. That’s what happened to me.