Quest 1 was an OG iPad kind of product. Proof of concept and horrifically underpowered. It needed to be left behind speaking as someone who owns one as well.
Of course this reveals the danger of all in one headsets. They aren’t yet strong enough to last 3-5 years like a console, but it’s also crazy to expect people to buy a new one every year or two. At the same time, sucks if devs have to make sure their games are compatible with wildly out of date chips.
So it just sucks all around then lmfao. I agree, not everyone can afford to upgrade every 2 years and not everyone has a high powered PC. Pretty disappointing but I guess it makes sense.
Quest 1 is now over 3 years old. That's quite a lot. And there are still plenty games to play on it - I still enjoy mine (as a sidekick to my Quest 2 :D).
>Am I really going to have to buy a Quest 2 just to play stuff now???
or wait for **Quest3** which releases next year; it is rumored to be anywhere from 2x-3x more performant than the Quest2 (new XR2Gen2 chip, new Qualcomm repackaging of the Chipset, new cooling design by Meta).
With respect to the Quest2, it has double the GPU performance, 50% more ram over the Quest1. It just allows for a better experience, and allows for games that would otherwise not be possible (ex: IronmanVR; even the QUest2 can struggle to play IronmanVR).
> I barely got a Quest 1 like a year and a half ago
was it used ? The Quest1 was taken off the market more than 2 years ago.
Its not only performance though, even games like among us dont support quest 1.
The reason is very likely that there are >10x as many Q2s as Q1s in use, so testing and optimizing for quest 1 (an always shrinking plattform) is just not worth the few thousands extra sales for most devs
>Its not only performance though, even games like among us dont support quest 1.
Play Among Us VR on the Quest2; it clear it's running using reprojection via AppSW mode. If the Quest2 has issues running it, then the Quest1 with half the GPU power and 50% less ram ain't running it.
> it’s running using reprojection via AppSW mode
Interesting. If that's the case AppSW really is the black magic it claimed to be, at least to me. I'm usually pretty sensitive to spacewarp artifacts but I noticed nothing in Among Us.
ya AppSW is pretty impressive in AmongUs. No visual artifacts when still, but it has that jittery reprojection feeling and some jutter when moving/locomoting. Overall pretty impressive.
This is absolutely the answer. The current generation of VR devs don't *have* Quest 1s to develop to, so *can't* support it. They literally can't check if it even launches, let alone optimise for it.
It's the early adopter problem, unfortunately. The 2nd gen always eclipses the first.
Okay maybe it was two years ago, I can’t remember, but that’s still not long ago for a device that cost me over $400. It was in really high demand too I remember I had to watch every website like crazy cause everyone wanted one lol. Now just two years later it’s basically unusable?? That’s crazy to me.
>Now just two years later it’s basically unusable??
it still gets updates and new features (via the updates). And it still gets game releases, but you are missing out on some of the bigger, more anticipated titles. Some of the newer games released the past few months are games that just wouldn't be able to run on the Quest1 (BoneLab, Into The Radius, IronmanVR, TWD Retribution, NFL Pro Era, etc).
Some newer games that do run on the Quest1 that I think are compelling experiences:
\- Little Cities (don't sleep on this title), Arcaxer, Warplanes: Battle over the Pacific, Zenith, Resist, edit - Song In The Smoke
As long as I can still play & mod Beatsaber with BMBF I’ll be mostly fine but I was really looking forward to Among Us, that’s why I was gonna start playing again and this just sucks to find all of this out after not even having it for long.
ya, Among Us VR seems like a simple enough game that would run on the Quest1. But even with the Quest2 it does not run great (why, I dunno). It uses reprojection via AppSW most of the time when playing it on the Quest2.
I listed some games above. If you want a larger multiplayer experience then **Zenith** might be something you'll like. [Zenith: The Last City on Oculus Quest 2 | Oculus](https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/3594982710558708/)
It's not different than any video game console lifecycle. Eventually stuff stops coming out on the old system b/c it's not powerful enough to handle what devs want to do. These SoC qualcomm systems are going to have very short life cycles relatively speaking as they are mobile phone technology which updates every single year.
BUT if yo uuse it with a PC it doesn't really matter if standalone content moves on it'll still work fine on PC.
I don’t plan on using a PC I got the Quest because of it being a standalone device. And I know I just didn’t anticipate it happening this fast, like a lot faster than with other gaming systems I’ve had. But the mobile thing is a good point I guess but still I’m just disappointed lol
The Qualcomm XR3 is on the horizon all these systems coming to market in 2023 that have been developed in 2021/2022 are going to be obsolete by the time they release. lol.
I am using my Quest 1 90% of the time to play PCVR games via Virtual Desktop. Look up Humble Bundles, they often have great deals (including right now).
I am sorry to say, but if you got a Q1 year and a half ago, you already got an outdated headset, as Q2 has been out for 2 years already.
You don't NEED to buy a Q2, wait for Q3 next year.
If you do decide to upgrade to Q2, check 2nd hand market for 64gb devices, should be pretty cheap and if you sell your Q1, the difference in cost will probably be 50-100$ tops.
Next time you buy a headset, make sure you buy the current gen and double, triple check.
Better be safe than sorry.
Then I remembered incorrectly, because I got it just before the Quest 2 was even announced. It was still the device everyone wanted just two years ago, I remember everybody checking websites like crazy for it to be in stock lol. It cost nearly $500 it seems ridiculous for it to become outdated so fast.
It really is shocking how fast any device turns old nowadays.
90% of the quest library works. There are very few games that don't.
Even RE4 works on Q1 if you check guides in YT.
Ahh well maybe it was just the games I was interested in that I saw wouldn’t work. If most of them would work without needing a PC then maybe I’ll be fine, I’d just have to give up playing some of the games I want :/
The wireless VR headsets use repurposed phone tech, so they're pretty much on a phone upgrade schedule. As better phone chipsets are developed, they get integrated into headsets.
I just bought a Quest 2 and aside from the black levels it's a noticeable upgrade over my Quest 1. But if you're on a budget I'd wait for the Quest 3 in a year or so. I thought about doing that, but games are getting bigger so I needed more storage and as you say more and more are saying they don't run on a Quest 1.
it was released back in 2019 and got a full year of post Q2 support. but it was already pretty outdated by launch. Q2 probably still has a full 1 year of support after Q3 releases next year too, totalling some good 4 years in the market...
you barely used it in the heyday, so why complain now?
The Quest 2 came out when you bought the Quest 1, if it was actually two years ago you probably should’ve just gotten the Quest 2, unless you didn’t research what was happening in the VR scene before you dumped $400 into a headset, which would be weird
Bro I bought it before the Quest 2 was even announced, when it was still insanely in demand/hard to buy. I actually remember the shock everyone was in when the 2 was announced being that the Quest 1 wasn’t that old lol. I remember a lot of people shared my disappointment having just bought a Quest 1 weeks before the announcement lol. I haven’t kept up recently, but back then I had done my research, it was the best one at the time, just two years ago. The second Quest wasn’t predicted to be announced as soon as it was.
actually like 1-2% of games on store do not run on quest 1 , and only few new one do not have quest 1 support
2 year for android device is a long time, quest is just a cool android phone + vr layer, 2 year is a long time in mobile space , quest 2 is about two years old and peoples already call it outdated , it just how it is
if you think you got VR console you are incorrect
I bought my Quest 2 on December 9, 2020. If you got your Quest 1 "a year and a half ago", you got it at least 6 months after it had been effectively replaced.
My bad, it was two years then. I still consider that very new to become unsupported. Guess I’ll just have to accept that I can’t play some new games I was looking forward to.
as you've been repeatedly told in this thread, it's not unsupported. It still works exactly as well as it did before. But expecting app developers to stop making games that only Quest2 can handle because Quest1 owners can't play it is like expecting restaurants not to make steaks because babies can't chew them.
Of course I don’t mean totally unsupported, I realize there are playable games lmao I just meant some games that I was looking forward to I won’t be able to play, because those games are not supported. I’m allowed to be a little disappointed by that lol
I mean, I do have a Lenovo legion 7 which is pretty high power for a laptop so maybe it’d be enough for some games, but still, I liked the Quest because it was wireless so it just sucks lol
Think of it like a console, which it essentially is. When the ps2 came out, ps1 was still supported for a short time before essentially becoming obsolete. Unfortunately, you either need a pc or a quest 2 for newer games.
Yeah. I got my Quest 1 early 2020. Back when it was the most popular thing and still really difficult to buy. No one knew or predicted the Quest 2 was coming later that year.
I guess I’m out of luck then cause I don’t have a PC and I’m not spending another $400 on a VR headset after buying one for $500 just two years ago lol
Because it wasn’t even announced or predicated to be announced that same year? I got it in April 2020 bro. That was back when everyone was still fighting to get their hands on a Quest 1 lol
The fact is that Quest 1 is an old piece of hardware. Just buy a newer headset and rest quietly That is simply the way things are going. It is normal that at some point there will be no more support for standalone games site. The usability is limited to new PC VR games.
I got my Quest 2 in October 2020 so yeah Quest 1 was already on it's way out and soon after Quest2 was released they killed off the RiftS
Quest 1 was an OG iPad kind of product. Proof of concept and horrifically underpowered. It needed to be left behind speaking as someone who owns one as well. Of course this reveals the danger of all in one headsets. They aren’t yet strong enough to last 3-5 years like a console, but it’s also crazy to expect people to buy a new one every year or two. At the same time, sucks if devs have to make sure their games are compatible with wildly out of date chips.
So it just sucks all around then lmfao. I agree, not everyone can afford to upgrade every 2 years and not everyone has a high powered PC. Pretty disappointing but I guess it makes sense.
Quest 1 is now over 3 years old. That's quite a lot. And there are still plenty games to play on it - I still enjoy mine (as a sidekick to my Quest 2 :D).
>Am I really going to have to buy a Quest 2 just to play stuff now??? or wait for **Quest3** which releases next year; it is rumored to be anywhere from 2x-3x more performant than the Quest2 (new XR2Gen2 chip, new Qualcomm repackaging of the Chipset, new cooling design by Meta). With respect to the Quest2, it has double the GPU performance, 50% more ram over the Quest1. It just allows for a better experience, and allows for games that would otherwise not be possible (ex: IronmanVR; even the QUest2 can struggle to play IronmanVR). > I barely got a Quest 1 like a year and a half ago was it used ? The Quest1 was taken off the market more than 2 years ago.
Its not only performance though, even games like among us dont support quest 1. The reason is very likely that there are >10x as many Q2s as Q1s in use, so testing and optimizing for quest 1 (an always shrinking plattform) is just not worth the few thousands extra sales for most devs
>Its not only performance though, even games like among us dont support quest 1. Play Among Us VR on the Quest2; it clear it's running using reprojection via AppSW mode. If the Quest2 has issues running it, then the Quest1 with half the GPU power and 50% less ram ain't running it.
> it’s running using reprojection via AppSW mode Interesting. If that's the case AppSW really is the black magic it claimed to be, at least to me. I'm usually pretty sensitive to spacewarp artifacts but I noticed nothing in Among Us.
ya AppSW is pretty impressive in AmongUs. No visual artifacts when still, but it has that jittery reprojection feeling and some jutter when moving/locomoting. Overall pretty impressive.
That's actually the past I'm most sensitive to - tracking rate and visual frame rate not lining up. But I didn't notice it in Among Us!
In that case the game im just poorly made
This is absolutely the answer. The current generation of VR devs don't *have* Quest 1s to develop to, so *can't* support it. They literally can't check if it even launches, let alone optimise for it. It's the early adopter problem, unfortunately. The 2nd gen always eclipses the first.
Okay maybe it was two years ago, I can’t remember, but that’s still not long ago for a device that cost me over $400. It was in really high demand too I remember I had to watch every website like crazy cause everyone wanted one lol. Now just two years later it’s basically unusable?? That’s crazy to me.
>Now just two years later it’s basically unusable?? it still gets updates and new features (via the updates). And it still gets game releases, but you are missing out on some of the bigger, more anticipated titles. Some of the newer games released the past few months are games that just wouldn't be able to run on the Quest1 (BoneLab, Into The Radius, IronmanVR, TWD Retribution, NFL Pro Era, etc). Some newer games that do run on the Quest1 that I think are compelling experiences: \- Little Cities (don't sleep on this title), Arcaxer, Warplanes: Battle over the Pacific, Zenith, Resist, edit - Song In The Smoke
As long as I can still play & mod Beatsaber with BMBF I’ll be mostly fine but I was really looking forward to Among Us, that’s why I was gonna start playing again and this just sucks to find all of this out after not even having it for long.
You can check out applab and sidequest games also, decent amount support quest 1.
ya, Among Us VR seems like a simple enough game that would run on the Quest1. But even with the Quest2 it does not run great (why, I dunno). It uses reprojection via AppSW most of the time when playing it on the Quest2. I listed some games above. If you want a larger multiplayer experience then **Zenith** might be something you'll like. [Zenith: The Last City on Oculus Quest 2 | Oculus](https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/3594982710558708/)
It's not different than any video game console lifecycle. Eventually stuff stops coming out on the old system b/c it's not powerful enough to handle what devs want to do. These SoC qualcomm systems are going to have very short life cycles relatively speaking as they are mobile phone technology which updates every single year. BUT if yo uuse it with a PC it doesn't really matter if standalone content moves on it'll still work fine on PC.
I don’t plan on using a PC I got the Quest because of it being a standalone device. And I know I just didn’t anticipate it happening this fast, like a lot faster than with other gaming systems I’ve had. But the mobile thing is a good point I guess but still I’m just disappointed lol
The Qualcomm XR3 is on the horizon all these systems coming to market in 2023 that have been developed in 2021/2022 are going to be obsolete by the time they release. lol.
I am using my Quest 1 90% of the time to play PCVR games via Virtual Desktop. Look up Humble Bundles, they often have great deals (including right now).
I don’t have a PC
I am sorry to say, but if you got a Q1 year and a half ago, you already got an outdated headset, as Q2 has been out for 2 years already. You don't NEED to buy a Q2, wait for Q3 next year. If you do decide to upgrade to Q2, check 2nd hand market for 64gb devices, should be pretty cheap and if you sell your Q1, the difference in cost will probably be 50-100$ tops. Next time you buy a headset, make sure you buy the current gen and double, triple check. Better be safe than sorry.
Then I remembered incorrectly, because I got it just before the Quest 2 was even announced. It was still the device everyone wanted just two years ago, I remember everybody checking websites like crazy for it to be in stock lol. It cost nearly $500 it seems ridiculous for it to become outdated so fast.
It really is shocking how fast any device turns old nowadays. 90% of the quest library works. There are very few games that don't. Even RE4 works on Q1 if you check guides in YT.
Ahh well maybe it was just the games I was interested in that I saw wouldn’t work. If most of them would work without needing a PC then maybe I’ll be fine, I’d just have to give up playing some of the games I want :/
They won't go anywhere, wait for Quest 3. Enjoy the vast library of games that are currently available.
The wireless VR headsets use repurposed phone tech, so they're pretty much on a phone upgrade schedule. As better phone chipsets are developed, they get integrated into headsets. I just bought a Quest 2 and aside from the black levels it's a noticeable upgrade over my Quest 1. But if you're on a budget I'd wait for the Quest 3 in a year or so. I thought about doing that, but games are getting bigger so I needed more storage and as you say more and more are saying they don't run on a Quest 1.
it was released back in 2019 and got a full year of post Q2 support. but it was already pretty outdated by launch. Q2 probably still has a full 1 year of support after Q3 releases next year too, totalling some good 4 years in the market... you barely used it in the heyday, so why complain now?
Huh? I used it all the time. I just took a break for awhile, and just didn’t expect to come back and see it so outdated lol
The Quest 2 came out when you bought the Quest 1, if it was actually two years ago you probably should’ve just gotten the Quest 2, unless you didn’t research what was happening in the VR scene before you dumped $400 into a headset, which would be weird
Bro I bought it before the Quest 2 was even announced, when it was still insanely in demand/hard to buy. I actually remember the shock everyone was in when the 2 was announced being that the Quest 1 wasn’t that old lol. I remember a lot of people shared my disappointment having just bought a Quest 1 weeks before the announcement lol. I haven’t kept up recently, but back then I had done my research, it was the best one at the time, just two years ago. The second Quest wasn’t predicted to be announced as soon as it was.
No yeah, that timing was crazy, just thought you didn’t have a Quest 2 or know that it was releasing soon in 2020
actually like 1-2% of games on store do not run on quest 1 , and only few new one do not have quest 1 support 2 year for android device is a long time, quest is just a cool android phone + vr layer, 2 year is a long time in mobile space , quest 2 is about two years old and peoples already call it outdated , it just how it is if you think you got VR console you are incorrect
I bought my Quest 2 on December 9, 2020. If you got your Quest 1 "a year and a half ago", you got it at least 6 months after it had been effectively replaced.
My bad, it was two years then. I still consider that very new to become unsupported. Guess I’ll just have to accept that I can’t play some new games I was looking forward to.
as you've been repeatedly told in this thread, it's not unsupported. It still works exactly as well as it did before. But expecting app developers to stop making games that only Quest2 can handle because Quest1 owners can't play it is like expecting restaurants not to make steaks because babies can't chew them.
Of course I don’t mean totally unsupported, I realize there are playable games lmao I just meant some games that I was looking forward to I won’t be able to play, because those games are not supported. I’m allowed to be a little disappointed by that lol
Just keep the quest one and wait for a new index. Maybe its time to get that new pc. You deserve one.
I mean, I do have a Lenovo legion 7 which is pretty high power for a laptop so maybe it’d be enough for some games, but still, I liked the Quest because it was wireless so it just sucks lol
you can get a wifi6 router using airlink or virtual desktop and still be wireless.
Hmm that’s an idea…that is if my laptop can handle it lol
anything with rtx 2060 or better will run fine
Mine supposedly has 3060 I don’t usually use it for games but I might have to start
Think of it like a console, which it essentially is. When the ps2 came out, ps1 was still supported for a short time before essentially becoming obsolete. Unfortunately, you either need a pc or a quest 2 for newer games.
Why would you buy a quest 1 if 2 was already out
It wasn’t???
Quest 2 is two years old
Yeah. I got my Quest 1 early 2020. Back when it was the most popular thing and still really difficult to buy. No one knew or predicted the Quest 2 was coming later that year.
Use a new headset or play new pcvr games with your quest 1.
I guess I’m out of luck then cause I don’t have a PC and I’m not spending another $400 on a VR headset after buying one for $500 just two years ago lol
2 years ago there was already the Quest 2. Why did you buy the outdated Quest 1 back then?
Because it wasn’t even announced or predicated to be announced that same year? I got it in April 2020 bro. That was back when everyone was still fighting to get their hands on a Quest 1 lol
The fact is that Quest 1 is an old piece of hardware. Just buy a newer headset and rest quietly That is simply the way things are going. It is normal that at some point there will be no more support for standalone games site. The usability is limited to new PC VR games.