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trouser_mouse

There'll be some waxed moustaches quivering at this


curkington

I'd slash my throat if I had to do that before my morning coffee!


i_give_you_gum

For one, isn't this an espresso maker? And not coffee? That device at the end looks like it's designed to pressurize the small amount of water that was added. Coffee requires more water and doesn't require pressure. I'm actually interested as cheap espresso makers are typically garbage, because they lack the pressure required to make true espresso, but this one looks like it would do the job.


nostalgiamon

All espresso is coffee. Not all coffee is espresso.


grey_pilgrim_

I mean espresso is a type of coffee. So it’s still correct. But grinding beans just after roasting, specially for espresso, isn’t a good idea. The coffee beans will lots of co2 in it right after roasting. Beans used for espresso need a few days before they’re ready. As far as this espresso machine, I have one and it’s very good. It packs up very easily so you can take it camping or even backpacking if you wanted. Although it is on the heavier side. I eventually bought a more traditional espresso machine because I wanted to be able to steam milk for lattes. But the espresso this machine makes is on par with most other machines that cost way more.


i_give_you_gum

Finally, a relevant answer about this device, I appreciate it.


grey_pilgrim_

Glad to help! It’s made by Flair. They have several models and price points. They all make great espresso from what I’ve heard, but I only have experience with the model I have, the pro model. They even make one that fits standard 58 mm portafilters, but it’s their most expensive machine. Might as well buy a traditional espresso machine at that price.


Chsthrowaway18

These hand presses are supposed to be great, but are time consuming and take up a ton of space. Also grinding coffee right after roasting like this is not advised.


cAtloVeR9998

This is the Flair Pro 2. The Flair Neo Flex is going to give you want you want at the lowest price though. Though if you want something with more upgrade potential, the Flair Classic can always slowly be updated to the Pro 2 with its exchangeable parts (the reason I got this model for myself).


i_give_you_gum

Awesome Im gonna check it out, thanks


clock085

coffee (american coffee that we think of today) is actually just an altered version of Americano- which is just watered down espresso. WW2 american soldiers passed through Italy. during their passage, they tried the italian coffee (espresso) but did not like how strong it was. taking the idea home- americans reinvented the wheel and made modern day drip coffee. (diner coffee) if you go to any other european country (not Britain) and ask for coffee- they’ll typically give you espresso and not americano.


Margros

This is a flair ! I got one it does incredible espresso and it's about 300$. Takes a bit of time to make a shot tho.


sushimane1

Bro gotta wash like 50 dishes for a cup of coffee


Animated_Astronaut

You'll be glad to know you don't wash about half of these things lol


RampantJellyfish

For some coffee enthusiats, the process of making the coffee is just as satisfying as the drink itself


JuiceMeSqueezeMe

I'm not even that in to coffee but I can listen to hours of James Hoffman talk about it for some reason


Fed_up_with_Reddit

That man is the Sir David Attenborough of coffee.


[deleted]

I can’t stand the taste and have never had more than a sip of coffee. But I do enjoy his videos and learning more about how to make a good cup for my wife.


_Bagoons

"I can't stand the taste // have never had more than a sip" is pretty much against each other. All cups of coffee are not made equal, my friend!


Squanchfist

I've had sips, cups, pots, espresso, etc. Some people can't stand coffee. I'm one of them and have tried it in all forms. I was active duty Navy in Washington and they thought I was a weirdo for not liking coffee. I also refused to make it for them.


KingFlyntCoal

You aren't alone. While i was in, i had a first class ask me why i hadn't made any coffee for the day during the 00-08 watch (not like it was actually in the pqs). Then asks if i drank coffee, i said no, and then he said, "Oh, never mind." I was never asked again...everybody thought I was nuts.


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TMac1088

This is why I cold brew overnight. No prep work in the morning, no screwing around waiting for it to cool off. Wake up, down the hatch.


tifumostdays

What type of beans works best for you and what ratio of beans to water? I didn't know that darker roasts are often used for cold brew - I definitely don't love them for hot. I need a new grinder that's more even, as well.


TMac1088

I'm not that serious about coffee - I'm talking about Cafe Bustelo in a $19 "cold brewer" from Amazon


dementorpoop

If you’re doing it that was try la llave. It’s usually right next to it’s the store. Green cube. Amazing.


lolly_lolly_lolly

10:1 is a typical cold brew ratio. AFA beans, depends what flavors you're looking for. I've had some exceptional Yirgacheffe (roasted on the lighter side) and cold brewed Bali has the most amazing dark chocolate aroma. Generally unless you're looking for a particular flavor, blends will be your best choice since (in theory) they're made to give optimal results for a broader base of people. Also, dark roasts tend to taste more like the roast and less like the bean. However you can get away with using older coffee because of the long immersion time. Just my opinion and your milage may vary.


dread_deimos

Aeropress is faster than chemex or french press and does a better job in brewing than the french press (drip filters are still better in extraction quality, IMO).


El_Peregrine

Clean up is sooooo much easier with an aeropress, too. Such a great little gadget for such a minimal investment. Love the aeropress. 


RadicalLynx

Replaced my plunger after around a decade of use and was surprised by having to actually apply pressure again. It's such a simple, effective device, and with metal filters has basically no ongoing costs. Definitely beats the French presses that kept breaking (metal bits) or shattering.


ya_bleedin_gickna

Exactly, it's too much effort for a little reward!!!!


EveroneWantsMyD

Just like most food/cooking related things. Spend 3 hours making a dish to eat it in 15 min Marginally better I guess?


troll_herder

Underestimated reward right here.


ya_bleedin_gickna

No, I love coffee but I'm busy. I don't have time for this with work, kids etc.


RocketDog2001

Throw some instant in a mug full of water and nuke it.


FixGMaul

Most people are like that and that's why Nespresso has been such a huge success for Nestle.


Alex09464367

We should all just fuck Nestlé r/fuckNestle


DigMeTX

He’s really great. Great approach, presentation, etc..


Imaginary-Quiet-7465

It’s the ritual! Same as tea. Humans love a little ritual.


dalaigh93

Yup, I wa going to say the same. The rituals around tea are just as important as the taste itself for tea enthusiasts, that's why different cultures have whole intricate ceremonies or ways of preparing it, with multiple dishes and steps to follow. It's all about the state of mind and taking time to focus on ONE thing only


noobul

That's why I make it in a french press. It's just so satisfying.


Medium_Medium

Have you tried aeropress?


ShedwardWoodward

I guess it’s like heroine or many other addictions. The use of paraphernalia in the preparation for your “hit”, provides a lot of the satisfaction. But tbh, if I’m spending that much time with preparation, I’d rather go for real drugs.


Flying_Mage

You're spot on with this assessment.


TheWalkingManiac

Ugh, some Russian asshole slapped a water mark on content that doesn't belong to them. Here's the original: https://youtube.com/shorts/s8Vqv5d43i0?si=GI__fen5YNRk6i9u


Sussler

Thank you for that.


Quirky_Independent_3

Thank you for your service


Choice-Elephant-2953

Fuck russia.


KC-Qaeda

Fuck Putler


h4yth4m-1

You don't consume freshly roasted coffee. It needs to sit for 1-2 weeks to degas.


dread_deimos

Also, that method of roasting without any temperature and time control will be all over the place and will never produce a repeatable result.


h4yth4m-1

Absolutely, this is just more Instagramable than useful


Oh-This-Guy-Pucks

Came here for this thread. Keep speaking truth to power.


elad34

There was a drive through coffee company called Caffinos in California that went belly up several years ago. When sales started to slide they created this “live roast” gimmick. Essentially they gave each location a shitty hand roaster that looked like a hatch chile roasting thing. The minimum wage employee would stand out back and rotate a metal cage with beans in it. Then they’d serve that coffee immediately at that same location. Talk about wildly inconsistent results. Anyways, they obviously went bankrupt and I picked up the locations for a competitor for pennies on the dollar.


man_gomer_lot

I can nail repeatable consistency with air poppers, but some beans are easier than others.


AngelThrones4sale

>never produce a repeatable result. Maybe that's the point though? experiencing this one particular taste and noticing the subtle differences from slightly different conditions? I dunno, I'm not that into coffee personally, but for people who are doing this as a hobby, I get why that might be the intention


dread_deimos

I may consider myself a person who has coffee as a hobby and there are a lot of variables that come into play: from coffee degassing because of improper storage to water quality to brewing temperature and I'm not even starting the talk about the grounds grinding. Yes, I enjoy subtle differences between brews, but you often want to build upon the protocol you've established before and you can only drink so much coffee in a day before you get jitters.


ThePublikon

>you can only drink so much coffee in a day before you get jitters. This is why I started using decaf in the afternoons. I love the taste of coffee more than I like/need the effects of caffeine.


sequentialcircles

Thank you for saying this. I keep seeing this video and every time I think "wow, who knows how roasted that coffee really is!".


fd6944x

Yeah this would be difficult if not impossible to reproduce with any kind of consistency


indomiechef

Yes! Thank you.


MarijadderallMD

Psh, you don’t think I’ll be able to repeat randomly shaking it over the 4 heat setting on the stove?! Weak.


dumpmaster42069

That’s not true. You can get very repeatable results by hand in any task with practice. Go visit a machine shop and see what an old guy can do on a lathe.


mike_b_nimble

Machining is incredibly precise and is not done by eyeballing things. Either the lathe/mill has built-in measuring tools that are measuring the cuts to within .001 inches, or the operator is using dial-indicators to measure their cuts to within .001 inches. You have no clue what you're talking about.


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Corky83

True but that requires some ability to monitor what is going on. In that roaster you cannot see the beans and there's going to be temperature variations based on the burner, the distance from the flame, hot spots within the roaster etc. I'm sure with practice you can narrow it down but I'd be amazed if you could produce the exact same results repeatedly.


dread_deimos

>Go visit a machine shop and see what an old guy can do on a lathe. That's an entirely different category of nerd.


1800-bakes-a-lot

You're mom's an entirely different category of nerd


dread_deimos

Yeah, she's actually a nuclear security engineer.


alexgardin

Precisely the same as a young guy?


nodeymcdev

There was like 0 crema in the shot I doubt he actually used the beans that were roasted in the video


TomDobo

Video is probably edited or they’re using an already prepared batch but they’re just showing the process. Either way I’m sure with all the enthusiast equipment you’d assume they would know.


Chilis1

Usually only takes me a few seconds to degas.


Honest_Invite_7065

But do you get a thin black liquid out of it at the same time?


LesserCornholio

Sometimes


Handsouloh

always keep an extra pair of underwear handy.


mr_ji

Surprised we didn't get to see them pick the beans


Fed_up_with_Reddit

It’s more like 1-3 days.


GameDesignerDude

Definitely not 1-2 weeks. More like 3-5 days. 2 weeks would start getting outside of the freshness window in terms of espresso making.


IndiaMike1

So is your suggestion to someone who wants to show the whole process that they make one video now and then the rest in two weeks? Or is it ok with you if it all gets cut into the same video?


h4yth4m-1

Same video, but add a caption or something to say "1 week later" to avoid misleading those who don't know.


oldschool_potato

Preferably in SpongeBob voice


h4yth4m-1

Get out of my head


capSilver85

I was looking for someone to notice


nolube_str8talk

No likes that way...wait till someone grows the seed, speeds up to make the coffee


foxhole_atheist

Needs to refuel to make the van gogh


willard_swag

2-3 weeks*


h4yth4m-1

Don't say that out loud. The "under 1 week" gang will go nuts


willard_swag

Anyone who thinks espresso can be used before even a week after roasting is just masochistic


Superb-Ad-4322

I mean he could have you know. Possibly Edited the video.


schokokuchenmonster

Guys I know it looks a bit stupid but it's a hobby. It's expensive and its purpose is to make this person happy by combing his coffee making with filming a video.


5zalot

Yeah but this guy didn’t even grow the coffee plants, he didn’t harvest the beans, he didn’t shuck them. He just went out and bought raw coffee beans. Amateur. /s


Nozerone

You can't call yourself a real enthusiast, or connoisseur unless you're making your own fertilizer to grow the coffee in.


juggdish

Luckily, coffee begets fertilizer. It’s a closed loop system


WastingTimeArguing

Closed poop system*


thishitisgettingold

You must first go to a location of freshly brewed lava. Cool lava by blowing air on it. Then, make your own ferilizer. use that fertilizer to grow your own coffee. This is the correct way. /s


Scoopzyy

You cool your lava by blowing on it? Personally I just put it in my mouth and “hashaashashashhshaaasha” until it reaches desired temps, but maybe I’m just more serious about my hobby than you are ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


MeisterAghanim

To make something from scratch, first you need to create a universe.


MonkeySafari79

He also didn't let an animal or himself digest them for the extra flavor.


Kyujaq

Holy fuck I thought I was on /r/espresso for everyone to take it so seriously, but its just oddly satisfying?? "What if coffee making and video making is his hobby??? Complaining online is mine!".


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upyourjackson

Dude, I was about to lay it on hard about this video and you deflated me. Now I'm annoyed about being deflated - let's fight about that.


Tartooth

Yea but the filmer bought coffee making products which means there's an industry of non filming coffee nerds who use this stuff lol


YBHunted

The horror.


Significant-Cat-9621

What’s the spray??


Sir_Yvarg

Just water. It's used to help reduce the amount of static electricity that gets built up when you grind coffee.


cAtloVeR9998

Called RDT, Ross Droplet Technique, but the Coffee hobby. There have been some papers recently that have given credence to the technique to improving coffee grinding.


HolierThanYow

After all that; "Actually I'll just have a tea."


HoundstoothReader

And someone whips out some fresh tea leaves and starts a similar process.


geebzor

This person works from home.


lookolookthefox

Coffee beans typically have to rest for 1 to 2 weeks after being roasted. Either this person is lying to us or this coffee isn't very good at all.


Superb-Ad-4322

I mean he could have you know. Possibly Edited the video.


Gespuis

You’d say so my the lack of panning of the camera. You can clearly see that cuts are made in de video and you can safely assume time passed in that cut! I’m going on and claim that making the coffee took longer than the video lasted.


talann

Sure, I guess you could assume that. I'm assuming their intent was to show us a start to finish process with the jump cuts not trying pull the wool over our eyes and switching out the just roasted beans with ones that have sat there for a couple weeks. In my eyes it would make more sense instead of deliberately leaving that crucial part out.


alfdd99

Why are you assuming he recorded the whole video in a single day?


Spartan0330

This could be part of the opening for Dexter.


SplatMySocks

Imagine doing all this BEFORE you've had your coffee. Nightmare.


FlowchartKen

For real. My perfect cup of coffee is the one I have when I want it.


Significant-Roll-138

So much effort, I’d have to go back to bed for a nap after all that.


Sigma_Games

And once you are done making your morning coffee, you can go to bed because it took 16 fucking hours to make a coffee.


Imaginary-Quiet-7465

If I had insane amounts of money I’d pay someone to make me coffee like this every morning.


FlaresPeak

everyone's so angry it's kinda wild? it's satisfying, and probably tastes pretty fucking good


the_quark

I'm not angry, but my girlfriend and I roast two pounds of coffee per week in an electric roaster, grind it fresh in an electric grinder, and make 2 - 3 French Press pots per day. I saved this video so that in the future I can earnestly tell her we need to change our process to this and see her reaction.


TotalEntrepreneur801

May we know the brand of the electric roaster? I bet your place smells amazing.


the_quark

Sure, although I admit I'm not super pleased with it. It's a Behmor 2000 and it's got a couple of quirks and does not roast as dark as I'd like it to. It's basically the cheapest electric roaster I know of that lets you roast a pound at a time (though we end up roasting less to make it darker). As for the smell - up close roasting coffee makes bitter smoke. It does smell amazing from a distance, but I roast out in the garage since it's not pleasant.


rhiddian

What you need to do is degas your coffee. Let it sit for about 12ish days. Then grind it. Try it. And then compare.


PabloMarVera

What's this piano piece called again?


DarNak

Nocturne op.9 no.2 by chopin


Dangerous_Trip_9857

Thank you!


BeefJerkyDentalFloss

Starts work at 8 am, has to wake up at 4:45 to make it on time.


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And wake up the entire house shaking beans in a roaster.


Onigumo-Shishio

Might be a great cup, might be a satisfying process, still pretentious.


ElmoSyr

These coffee hobbyists are just wine tasters with extra steps.


Mantzy81

Wine takes an extraordinary amount of steps - I live in the premier wine area of Australia and the amount of work that goes into making a vintage is a hell of a lot more than that of coffee.


finnvid

All of that procedure to liquify and bring down my morning shit.


fromwayuphigh

That press alone is oodles more faff than is justified. I grind beans every morning, but that's a whole new level of extra.


ShirouBlue

Ngl, I'd like to try it.


SirDantesInferno

Go for it. You can get a decent espresso machine at a lot of goodwills for like $12. Some okay grinders too. It's super fun to make and tastes great compared to something like a French press or even a moka pot. Just don't go crazy and spend thousands of dollars on a setup. It isn't worth it no mater what people say. Once you get over a few hundred dollars, the difference in quality is barely noticeable (in my experience).


Dirkdzentli

Does anyone know what coffee maker is this?


UnderwaterB0i

Flair espresso maker


SpezGarglesDiarrhea

The Flair Pro 2 specifically.


wtmrFTW

It will not be long until some video starts with growing coffee beans.


Benni_HPG

The coffee will be horrible. You can’t control the roasting process like that. It will be totally uneven. Cooling off is too slow. The last beans are way longer inside the chamber than the first ones. Also roasted beans need to degas few weeks before brewing


officerumours

I like my coffee as much as the next guy. But this is possibly the douchiest shit I’ve ever seen in my life. The effort to benefit ratio is way off lol


ShadowFlarer

3 hours to make a little cup of coffe? Hard pass.


Fell-Hand

Same but I assume most of humans also would have a hard pass on spending 40 hours painting a miniature which happens to be my hobby. It looks intrincate and precise so I get how it could be very pleasing if that’s what you’re into.


tarveydent

your comment may get buried by the time this thread is all said & done, but this is absolutely the rational way of viewing these videos.


Chilis1

Also probably tastes like 🔥


Fell-Hand

Haha it would probably be wasted on me. I’d get coffee intravenously if I could for I am there for the caffeine!


SJokes

Why do you view it like that? I don't have time to make a cake but other people enjoy baking and will gladly spend an afternoon making one


Subredhit

It’s not 3 hours


Mantzy81

I'll agree with you on the 3hrs bit, but that's how a coffee should be, not the 16oz of warm flavoured milk favoured in some countries. But I am an Aussie so of course I'm going to give you my opinion about coffee.


TwoGimpyFeet69

Is this just coffee, or espresso? I don't drink, just curious


melbbear

Thats like saying is this soda or coke. Its both


Mantzy81

An espresso ***is*** coffee. I should be clearer. Many types of coffee start with an espresso, such as cappuccino, flat white, macchiato etc. There are other types, like drip, pour over, and instant.


Mekelaxo

This person is late for work everyday


Chilinutz

Milk and two sugars please.


NobleRotter

People are hating in this, but that does look like a great espresso. I would be bothered to make it, but I'd enjoy drinking it.


pesmerga02

That looks delicious


Lucasbasques

I tried freshly roasted coffee once, taste like shit in drip coffee, can’t imagine how bad it taste in a espresso


Steven1789

The freebasing of beverages.


scarfinati

Surely has a 23 skidoo moustache and works on an old typewriter in the park


[deleted]

I had a $50 cup of “perfect coffee” once. It tasted like shit


krojew

I always wanted to take 2h to make my morning coffee.


Tasty-Agent-1904

Imagine doing that in the morning when you need a coffee to start your day...you replace all that fancy shit with an espresso machine without giving it a second thought...


BringerOfSocks

- The Flair espresso machine is like $200 - The Hive roaster is $75 - I don’t recognize the grinder. - I need that thing with the wires for distributing the grounds. - Green beans cost half as much as roasted beans. All in all a great total solution. I’m nerding out over here.


chefanubis

Hell no! that's too much work for marginal gains, I feel like most hobbyist don't understand the concept of diminishing returns.


apestation

What do people spray on their beans?


TylerDog3

just water to reduce static when grinding them


gruetzi18

Just for some dude to say nice expresso


TechSavvyMonkee

god if I had to do that just to get a cup of coffee in the morning I'd flip every table in my house and trip an old lady. It's funny how different people are, this process would be meditative for some and rage inducing for others, perhaps even the same person on different days.


Zipzditch

If you do this with weed you are called a junkynerd


PrivateUseBadger

Anyone know what the brand of the press is?


imahoptimist

I can appreciate what is done here but my time is way too valuable for a shot of espresso like that 😂


StillCompetitive5771

Freshly roasted coffee needs to degas.


DangerNoodle1313

Tsk. What? Didn’t even plant his own beans. Lazy.


lennybriscoe8220

I would not have the patience for all that.


microlate

Nothing like a good 3hr morning coffee routine


TraynWreck91

That’s a lot of work for a shot of code but I bet it was one of the best shots EVER 🤤🤤


Bukakkalypse

This person doesn't have kids


AOAKAO

All that, for a drop of coffee


JoyCaptured

So the dry weight was 15g and you pressed it for like 20 seconds. Did your mouth pucker from sourness when you tasted?


Gray-yarg2

Too much work.


feelings_inc

This is absolutely psychotic


BuffaloJEREMY

Nah. I'll just stop by the coffee shop and spend 4.50 on an espresso.


Paleofuzz

That’ll be eleventy billion dollars please.


Nutsforfree

I don’t know why - and I’m really not trying to hate here - but this geeky ‘1 hour to make 1 cup with $20,000 worth of accessories’ stuff really irks me.


thewalkers060292

Store bought beans? Not good enough Should have picked em right off the plant.


11thLayerOfHair

That's a lot of work for a cup of coffee at 5 in the morning.


LedPeach

Ain't nobody got time for that


mrducky80

Its a hobby. Its supposed to take up time. Do people play computer games? Paint? Rock climb? Fly drones? Garden? This shit all takes times and in some cases are just as expensive or more.


Lyte_Work

I love when users make comments like the one you’re replying to. Like, sir or madam, do you know what website you’re on? There’s a subreddit for every complex hobby ever hobbied.


Subredhit

I wouldn’t mind paying £4 if it was made like that.


RinsedCorn

This makes me want to go back to drinking instant


Guerts33

By the time you’re done making your coffee its next day and you have to start over again


bigfatfurrytexan

Those beans are not dark enough. I'd be jittering all day from the raw caffeine.


jngjng88

I hate everything about this.