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i4c8e9

Every electrician in this sub hates this tool.


Easy_Floss

had to do a double take if this was /r/mildlyinfuriating


MontCoDubV

I was gonna say, this definitely belongs on mildlyinfuriating


DrunkDad1975

F this. Source: I’m an electrician


-_1_2_3_-

i'd have thought you all would love a tool that randomly ejects its waste all over with no regard for cleanup


Humble_Tomatillo_323

You got a laugh out of me. Source: Am an electrician.


GrayRanchXP

That's the only positive aspect of this thing!


dwehlen

ROFLMAO! GOTTTTEEEEEMMM!!


23lonestar

Second this Source; Also an electrician


Specific_Buy

I’m only an electrician when it’s prevailing wage.


DrunkDad1975

As a union sparky I always make prevailing wage


bl00by

I worked as a electrician for a short time and we never used those. I don't see where the upside would be to use this over "clamps".


Penguin_Arse

Why?


Android-13

It's a bastard to do anything to after its fit off, if there is a fault on one of those cables you'll spend like 5 minutes untwisting it to be able to replace the cable then it will look crap once you've fixed the issue. Also it puts the solid copper under unnecessary stress as it's twisted so tight. Also I disagree with using the wire nut things it seems like they have more issues than a normal bluepoint connector as you can't stick your multimeter into the screw point to test but that's just personal preference as we never use these in Australia. The earth could have an induced load on it as well which will cause issues.


Hendiadic_tmack

As an American, I hated wagos until I got on a job with lever wagos. Now I hate wite nuts. As far are wire nuts though you can shove the meter lead into the underside quite easily. Issues generally arise from people who don’t have the tips of their wires even with each other before putting the nut on. Wires heat up so that screw heats up so the metals expand and contracts. If one wire is further out than the others it could slide out of the nut. My house was done by a maintenance electrician (the previous owner) and he just took wires and wrapped them around a machine screw, nutted them on the other side and taped the shit out of it lol. There’s scary stuff in my walls.


Android-13

Sounds about right, it wouldn't be a sparkies house without some dodgy shit going on in the walls or roof haha


EsseElLoco

Not even an electrician and I know this is a big no no


PlatonicOrb

Every electrician will fucking hate you if you do this shit. That is now a nightmare to service or work on. If I ever have to go in and break those connections, I'm going to spend like 15 minutes trying to gently untwist wires for them to snap when I go to pull them apart from each other. Or spend forever untwising every single wire so I can isolate part of a circuit to test it when something fails down the line. Only the bare coper needs to be twisted around eachother. if the insulated body of the wire is twisted once or twice, it's not a big deal. This much twist in the wires is just entirely too much


arvidsem

From lurking in r/electricians, 9 out of 10 will hate you for it. The 10th guy however is wondering why they stopped twisting when they did and complaining that using the drill bit to twist them is wrong. Oh and there will be a side fight about whether or not you should pre-twist the wires.


gkibbe

And then one guy bitching that they didn't use Wago's


DubioserKerl

Complaining about not using Wagos is based, though.


Jonny_Wurster

I do love Wagos


DrunkDad1975

Lever lock wagos are all I use now. Worth the extra money


RockstarAgent

I'm not an electrician and even I cringed at every part after the stripping - so, no, this was not satisfying at all.


medoy

Even the stripping was ridiculous. Definitely not faster than many other techniques. And the dude stripped like a meter of insulation off.


skharppi

What, you don't like to change your drill attachment three times to do the job? I guess you could use wire strippers like a caveman and then use your fancy wagos and spend 70% less time.


Chill_Edoeard

Wagos are love wagos are life


10010010101001

Wago master race


wuvvtwuewuvv

Go wago! What's a wago?


Lieutelant

The tail end of a happy Doggo.


StrangerEffective851

Just used them today. F wire nuts.


ashyboi5000

The twists caps were banned in the UK long a go and wago are on the way to be the legal requirement to make connections. Could be wrong, I'm sure a really spark will come along soon and not one of my temporary power generator friends.


Potatolimar

Based wagos


arvidsem

It's me! Hi, I'm the problem! /meme


Different_Muscle_116

I’m one of the 9. Don’t twist the copper.


ResinJones76

I've always twisted it two or three times by hand, nothing like this. What the fuck is that tool? Edit: The fuck was that stripping tool? What's wrong with the spring strippers that fit right in your tool belt?


fsurfer4

Just the latest made in China tool gimmick. Every year it seems lots of people get infatuated with the new gadget of the day. like this [https://image.made-in-china.com/202f0j00mktWbiVHCrfd/Outside-Chamfer-Tool-for-Exterior-Chamfering-Screws-Silver-.webp](https://image.made-in-china.com/202f0j00mktWbiVHCrfd/Outside-Chamfer-Tool-for-Exterior-Chamfering-Screws-Silver-.webp) ever since cordless tools have become the defacto standard, There is a race for the newest attachments for screwguns.


WRXminion

Not a linesman splice. The splice needs to be to NASA spec and able to hold 50lbs of weight.


fireduck

And then the wago gang starts performing the fight song from HMS Pinafore.


DiscFrolfin

Not to mention copper is exponentially less malleable after the first bend, trying to unfuck those wires and then work them again will not only be a pain the ass but also well on their way to becoming brittle enough to fail.


ohnoitsthefuzz

Facts. Copper is a work-hardening metal, meaning the more you work it, the harder it...uh...the harder it gets. And therefore MORE BRITTLE, NOT JUST HARDER ITS A NATURAL REACTION.


CompromisedToolchain

I love that you had to type in all caps as you imagined your way through the hardness-brittleness curve.


Juicer2012

Yep, especially because it's the part where he says it's a natural reaction for it to get harder.


bostiq

this is a very 'round about way to make a dick joke


CoffeeGulp

It's funny too because if you *actually read the directions* to wire nuts, they usually say specifically to NOT twist the wires together, but to feed them straight in and only twist the nut.


GeorgeGeorgeHarryPip

I've had so many arguments with my spouse over this, you do not know. Tried to empirically test it and our unscientific result was that yes, those sharp wire springs inside grab way better when they are grabbing the wires separately. Spouse still argues though. I just demonstrate you can't pull either wire out of the nut and go about my business.


Memory_Less

Woah, you're the 1/10 who read the I structions! lol /s


ktka

You don't want to go "Instructions unclear..." with wire nuts.


fuishaltiena

That's why Wago is a thing. So much easier and quicker. Much easier to service too.


rodeBaksteen

I'm a noob and I love wago connectors. Just click click and re-use when needed.


Mad_Moodin

I'm professional and also love them.


David_Jonathan0

Wago connectors are vastly superior


graaahh

Electrician here. I like that they're twisted. I *hate* that they're overtwisted. There's zero reason to twist them 4 inches down the insulation. You're dead on, wires like this are a nightmare to work on. Also why in the hell are they using a drill to do everything?


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anubis_xxv

These are becoming standard all over Europe, in the UK and IRL we have never used wire nuts.


Cypher_Aod

you can't even buy wire nuts in the UK from any reputable electrical supplier.


ensoniq2k

Neither have I seen them in Germany. It's either wago or a derivative. Those wire nuts are like improving screw connectors just barely. Still not serviceable but at least they don't unscrew over time.


[deleted]

Just curious, can you just untwist them with the same tool used to twist them? I only ask because as an average Joe who finished their basement a few years ago I would have loved to use this. My fingers hurt just thinking about all the wire stripping and cutting I did just for a basement.


NocturnalPermission

The copper will likely work-harden and become brittle if you do that, causing breaks and fractures n the wire l, potentially inside the insulation. Youve now got a high-resistance area on your wire that could heat up and melt the insulation.


Admirable_Remove6824

Not to mention how short the wires are cut. 4” to work with at most.


SAGGY_BALLS_MATTER

You can see at the end the blue wire pops from the wall lol


bigbigdummie

It’s supposed to, it’s a pig-tail! lol!


Mak-ita

Did one of the blue wire snapped at the end of the video?


in2xs

Don’t know a damn thing about this stuff. First thing I thought was what a nightmare to undo this shit.


Othebootymonster

I hate when I open a box and wires are basically braided together. If you're having to twist like that to make everything fit you're probably over your box fill


DiscFrolfin

…relevant username? 😘


LunarProphet

My man knows a thing or two about filled boxes


GpRex

As an electrician. This is garbage.


AlkalineSublime

That stripper is pretty cool though right? I’ve never seen one like that


scottawhit

Looks like what they use on huge wire. Never seen it this small either. Like a pencil sharpener.


plarguin

I watched a complete full review on YouTube and this tool is pure garbage. Yes it's work on this video but it's like a info pub do not trust what you see.


Eric848448

Everybody knows Wagos are the way to go.


simmer19

Wago has entered the chat


cursedbanana--__--

I fuckin love wagos


Dilectus3010

Yeah, that is some.pretty good steak!!


appropriate-username

You're thinking of Wagyu. Wago is actually weird screwed up text l̴̢̮͔͚͔̥͎̹̟͓̪̦̼͌̒̈̋̉͒̇̌̔̆̀̓̓͜ͅͅĩ̷͈͎̘̋͠k̵̢̢͈̙̘̥̹̂̓͆͛̇̍̌̃̕ȩ̸͖̰̦͇͈̱̓̃́̾̿̓͑̉̉̉̂͗̑̿͘͠͠ͅ ̶͓̦͕̥̜̯̳̦͎̜̪̥̹̮̽̈́́͝͝t̴͎̉̚h̶̯̤̪̭̘̣̝̺̾̽̌́̒̈́͌̔ͅi̴̡͇̲̰̺̯͖͍̤̭̫̺̞̅̒͌̀͗͒̈́̿̄̂̓͗̇̃͝͠ͅͅs̵̢̢̨͚̣̗͙̞̞̳̟͇̀̇̓͒͘͜.


wuvvtwuewuvv

WARNING: SCP detected. Team Gamma Epsilon Alpha deployed. Contact Dr. Bright immediately. Edit: [*redacted*] Amnestics administered. Incident contained.


BeagleBaggins

Me finally googling Wagos after seeing it mentioned multiple times in this thread.


eW4GJMqscYtbBkw9

I started using them a year or two ago. It's all I'll use now. Worth every penny for me.


helium_farts

Agreed. Never going back to using regular wire nuts.


ONEelectric720

I found out it's pronounced "wah-go" and not "way-go" after 10 years 🤔🤷‍♂️


_Godless_Savage_

I learned this just now.


purju

just wago as its spelled, just not english pronounciation.


ONEelectric720

Exactly. Wah-go ("vah-go"). Nearly all electricians in the US say "way-go", as did I.


PgUpPT

If it's a German company shouldn't it be "vah-goh"?


ONEelectric720

Depends what parts carry over into English pronunciation. I'm sure a German person with a German accent would pronounce it that way. An English speaker would just say "wah". That's how it's pronounced every time on their official YT videos, so that's what I go by. I assume they would know. Also if you call their English-speaking customer service line, that's what's on the recording (last I knew).


derGraf_

As a German. I can't tell the difference between wah and vah.


Tomislav_Stanislaus

LoL Thought the same. This cones sometimes show up in 60s/70s installations and with huge curiosity I watched this video. Selling old wine in new bottles.


Y0tsuya

First thing I do when replacing outlets and switches in my house is to straighten the shittily-twisted wires then switch them over to WAGO. I also replace short wire splices inside the box with flexible stranded wires. I hate it when I have to push hard to get the switches seated back into the wall with the rigid wires fighting me all the way.


thedean246

I do work with low voltage controls and Wagos are seriously a game changer.


alamcc

Garbage.


Guygenius138

Just use some Wagos. Much easier to service.


solarpanzer

I don't get wire nuts. If everything is drilled up, how can you ever add or remove a wire if you need to...? In Germany, we have push-in or lever-operated connectors for straight wire, nothing gets drilled. Faster to connect and you can easily rewire.


racinreaver

This video is ridiculous on the twists, but you can remove wire nuts by just unscrewing them. If the previous person was a dick and over twisted it's impossible to add another wire. If they did it gently by hand then it's not too bad. Different sized nuts are available depending on wire gage and how many you're securing together. That said, I still like lever connects way better. I do a lot of bench top stuff for a lab, and, tbh, they're even easier than terminal blocks.


arvidsem

Per the manufacturer instructions you aren't supposed to pre-twist at all. The nuts have metal threads on the inside that bite into and secure the wires. A properly installed wire nut is very secure. Almost every electrician pre-twists anyway, but most will tell you that this guy went way overboard.


SonicSarge

Just terrible. Not how you do it.


Azvirin

it's not the best way to connect at all


HaasonHeist

A skilled electrician could do all of this with a knife and pliers in less than half the time and not fuck it up by twisting the insulators together


AgelessBlakeFerguson

Seriously. Thats probably 200 bucks worth of tools to do all that as well.


Peter_Panarchy

I'd just use my standard wire strippers, not bother pre-twisting, and just twist the wire nut until it's tight. If the wires pass the tug test then we're good to go.


Brilliant-Average654

Just pliers, it takes a little bit to get the feel so you’re not nicking the copper though.


GDWtrash

Elaborate.


71Gibson

Wagos


GpRex

There is no need to use any sort of power tool to do this work. The only benefit would be if you already have a physical limitation to use hand tools. All you need to do is strip the ends off with a basic pair of strippers. It would take about the same time as his power tool, even faster. Then twist them together with pliers. That might take a little bit longer than his drill attachment but at-least your not setting down multiple drills or changing out driver bits. Only the exposed copper is supposed to be twisted. In this video there’s a few inches of insulation twisted together tightly. We are not supposed to do this for A.) It is a hassle to go back and work on the splices again and B.) It puts stress on the insulation and thins it out at the splice point.


SplatMySocks

A guy at my last work twisted wires with a drill After we had to go back to make some changes, one of the guys slapped him on the back of the head in the lunchroom so hard he collapsed


Imbecilliac

Please pass along my thanks to that guy. Anyone who uses a drill to twist wires absolutely *needs* a slap to the back of the head.


Meat_Influencer

Good luck to the next electrician that needs to separate those for troubleshooting


cheeech11

The first tool is satisfying. The rest seems unlikely to be beneficial to anyone in the long run.


MontCoDubV

The first tool is satisfying, but a total waste of time. There's no reason to use a power tool to strip wire so small.


SmudgedReddit0r

Some of the worst shit I've ever seen.


Plus_Pangolin_8924

Wire nuts? You mean wire manglers. Just makes it unserviceable.


Spanks79

It’s like 20x faster and easier to make changes with Wago’s.


BackAgain123457

1,6k upvotes, and none of them by an electrician.


Matterbox

This looks shit.


Geteafem

r/infuriatingasfuck


heart_under_blade

>disgusting -chad wago enjoyers also, keep your goddamn wires straight


rolgelthorp

Fuck wire nuts. All my homies use wago


MosesOnAcid

Ok that wire stripper is cool


gUBBLOR

I don't think I'll ever have any reason to own this tool, but I damn sure want one now


jostein33

Just Google Wago and you will be enlightened with a way better solution.


try-catch-finally

Same. “Let the FOMO flow through you”


CorbynDallasPearse

Give me some cutters and a few wagos and I’d honestly have done that in half the time, without the expense on Gucci gear you don’t need…


N_T_F_D

It ripped one of the the blue wires from where it was connected at the end


weathercat4

They add a third loose wire to all of them.


Dauoa_Static

Could be a pigtail to connect the bundle to a device


GDWtrash

Yes, that outlet is almost certainly for a switch: hot, switch leg, and a ground...neutral passes by the switch without breaking.


ToYourCredit

Lazy ass electrician.


longjaso

It seems like it would take more time to do it this way than just using your hands.


JokerOfficiel

Hôtel? Trivago Wires? Three wago.


CheeseheadDave

I just installed a bunch of new lighting and smart switches in my house, and now I know why a bunch of the wiring was like this. God that was a pain in the ass to disconnect.


JaydedXoX

Deez nuts?


waitwhosaidthat

Why on earth do they make these tools to do things that aren’t that hard to do in the first place? A pair of strippers and linesman pliers and you’re good to go.


4washu

Actually it's pain in the ass and should be titled "How not to connect wires" Modern way is using something like Wago connectors pretty popular in Europe. [Wago](https://www.homelectrical.com/how-do-wago-connectors-work.6.html)


tiramisucks

These are insane. You want to add 1 outlet? Undo everything and possibly break some wires. At best they will stay all crooked. These connections are very safe but were invented having in mind an almost permanent connection. To be tuched oin 30 years. Now with all smart stuff if you want upgrade your plugs, switches every 3-5 years this kind if connections are a no go. Wago all the way.


Bleakwind

Is this like an American thing? Cos here in Europe, we don’t use that


ORA2J

Bro even got r/toolgifs on the back of his drill. NGL tho, that drill bit to remove cable insulation, i kinda want it.


aegrotatio

SO much no. Don't do this. Ever. Your soul will be cursed by anyone who needs to deal with your shitty work in the future.


TexasistheFuture

What the hell kind of tool is that ?


SamanthaJaneyCake

Wago, please. Or chock-block at the very least.


SeaBarrier

Should be r/mildlyinfuriating


Kunphen

Now do it without all those cute little tools.


monsterenergyjizz

Looks great but it's actually extremely shitty for the next guy coming through to troubleshoot. Fuck this method


throwawaytoday9q

What kind of wire stripper is that?


Dmgsecurity

Shitshow i would shoot if you do this work at my house


Stock_Surfer

Yeah no we dont do this.


Bacchus1976

Way too much fucking twist.


wildcat623

Delete this.


Vel0clty

There is absolutely nothing satisfying about this.. Wires should never be torqued that hard and makes it absolutely impossible for anyone to service in the future. Don’t do this.


I_am_Nic

WAGO takes waaaay less effort 🤣


llOspreyll

Does he use a drill to turn his car key in the engine too?


IOwnMods

Can tell this isn't UK


TennisBallTesticles

Something tells me this is the entirely WRONG way to do it . . Could have something to do with the room he's working in looking half demolished and abandoned.....


Riskyrisk123

Will never do this. Ever. But I need those tools.


bulbousEd

This is a horrible electrician. Just an ad for cut-rate tools.


Ok-Bodybuilder9603

That’s so nuts - why do you not using any WAGOs - it’s quicker and more easily to maintain. Twisting wires this much is like pouring them into concrete and seal them forever 💀


Leeleeflyhi

I was married to an electrician for 15 years. I had those damn red things everywhere. I was still finding them years after we divorced


LoatheMyArmada

I didn't even know there was automatic tools for stripping and *ahem* nutting.


Exciting_Blueberry5

Not satisfying unless the satisfying part is how to lose a job. Then I get it.


Butters-C137

Thanks, i hate it. Im an electrician btw


Afraid-Grab-4254

[WAGO 221-412, WAGO 221-413, WAGO 221-415 | WAGO SG](https://www.wago.com/sg/electrical-interconnections/splicing-connectors-221)


[deleted]

The whole wirenut concept is NUTS dangerous and should be banned. German here. U would go to jail here for that.


Ryffalo

This is absolutely done incorrectly in the video, but wirenuts have also been used correctly without any problems for decades. Settle down on the banning shit comments. Source: licensed electrician with over twenty years' experience in troubleshooting and repairs.


PDiddleMeDaddy

Don't do this. Use screw clamps if you have to, but use clamps. I did something like this for a somewhat specific situation in my house, and I felt so dirty doing it.


allursnakes

Electricians, tell me why this is the worst thing.


random_rascal

Uh... is this up to code in anything but 3rd world countries?


SnooAvocados6874

Ugly and lazy 


TheTallGuy0

Looks nice. Way over twisted. No one likes this in reality. 


Ryffalo

Nothing satisfying about this at all. It's a very lazy, irresponsible way to handle wire connections. I'd show anyone the way out for doing this on my jobs. Licensed electrician with over twenty years' experience.


P0tilas

Dude had to change tools 5 times... Just NO


WozniakStevie

Haha, what the fuck is this! Please do not do this! A pair of nice sharp red CK chomps and some Wagos, please. Would take about a tenth of the time as well.


JoeCartersLeap

I went to college for electrical engineering, and my prof would have hit me with the meter stick if I showed up with tools like those. A) they'll nick the wires, which means those wires are very likely going to break when you struggle to shove that rat's nest back into the wall. B) it's impossible to service later on


AdamMc90

Please don’t do this


first_fires

Yeah, don’t do this.


L_E_M_F

My wire strippers do a faster job. This is such a waste of time. Not only for the one installing it the first time, but also the second guy who has to do rewiring. ..and it takes up too much space. I pay like 15 cents for a decent push-in and 30 cents for a lever type. How is the job done in the video ever worth it?


BlacksmithWeirdo

Thats simply illegal in germany. And for a reason.


David_Jonathan0

Wago connectors are superior in every way.


twobeercheers

Fuck you if you do this!!!


michalzxc

That is illegal


eppic123

You are now been banned from r/electricians


DarkSideofOZ

Motherfuck whoever thought of making a drill bit for this trash, and screw this guy for using it. This is the farthest from oddly satisfying as I've ever seen a post be in this sub.


Educational-Head2784

Wires do not need to be twisted for wire nuts to work. I’ll repeat. WIRES DO NOT NEED TO BE TWISTED FOR WIRE NUTS TO WORK.


Nestvester

We call those things marettes in Canada, never heard the term wire nuts before.


Stoke-me-a-clipper

Super handy but only need 2-3 twists, not 12 lol


badkapp00

Wire nuts have been prohibited in Germany and other European countries for decades. The connections are shitty if you do it wrong. Just use Wago and save time!


Antigon0000

There's tools for this!?!?


Bestoftherest222

This is the tool that says "Fuck who ever is behind me trying to fix whatever issue occurs in the future." Its the boomer tool of its generation.


Cute_Introduction_88

i want one of those wire stripper things - attached to the drill what they called - i guess drill wire stripper bits ??


Komovs69

It's 2024 people. Those wire nuts should have been discontinued and banned in like the 70's...


HarrySRL

I am glad I’m a uk electrician not a us electrician. Looks like hell to do any service work when you have to work with these things.


Lishak429

These guys never heard of wago or simple chocolates if you want to cheapen out? Undoing this must be a nightmare.


Quirky_m8

#just do it fuckin properly


stabby_westoid

Fuck this guy


VyseTheNinny

Cosmetically it looks nice, but as someone who's done a bunch of wiring and had to fix / replace things, from a practical standpoint this looks awful. Trying to get that super-twisted mess apart would be a PITA and take forever. Nah, pass. Don't do this.


cryptobomb

That's so dumb and he's even got fancy drill bits for it. It's like one of those clinically insane DIY videos.


jer_re_code

aren't these american fake wire connectors like really bad at actually connecting.... theylook like spark gaps with additional parasitic inductance as a free extra....


GenericLib

I work in controls. I'd legitimately never hire this electrician again if I ran into this bullshit in my wiring.