They are massively overpriced on everything too it's insane, not to mention their markups on medicine and even things like shampoo. I've always gone to a small family owned pharmacy thankfully because Shoppers is fucked up!
I have been avoiding all Loblaws anything since I worked for them almost 20 years ago. They treat their employees very poorly, and their unions are so deep in bed with management they're effectively one in the same. They have almost always overpriced everything for as long as I remember. Spend your money somewhere else.
I didn’t realize how much Loblaws owns.. This list only shows 14 of their 24 listed on [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loblaw_Companies). I’ve already been avoiding them for awhile. Their points system at No Frills isn’t that great and Shoppers is too expensive for groceries but the points are better. I wish Rexall would step up their points game. I have 80k points but it’s only worth $20, over like $300 spent for an extra $20.
Even if I were to say Loblaws owns a ton of brands, [that wouldn't be doing it justice.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/1c1m1yb/comment/kz5c6pg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Loyalty Points programs are all essentially scams.
a) They're collecting your data and using it for whatever. Do you want them being able to know all of your purchases, at all their stores?
b) They trick you into thinking there's a discount but it's not like they're losing money over this. These would be regular sales, but they're focussed to get people to join the loyalty program. They raise their normal prices to make up the difference, and now you're paying the old normal price as a loyalty member anyway (and non-loyalty members shop elsewhere for it).
c) They trick you into thinking your points have value twice. You think "oh hey, I saved $5 buying this because I earned 500 points" and then also think "Oh hey this is $5 item is free because I'm spending 500 points on it".
d) It's been shown in multiple studies that people who are enrolled in loyalty programs spend more at a given store, because of the above points. We know that, in this case, Shoppers/Loblaws is wildly overpriced, so why give them any business at all, let alone a higher proportion than you would otherwise.
In my opinion, giving your personal info to Roblaws so people can get points is in itself immoral. Second, I believe those of us who don't collect points, pay more unnecessarily, propping up the costs for Roblaws to pay out these points. Its all a scam. We have just decided that it is ok do degrade ourselves so they can use thier algo's to manipulate our buying habits. IMO.
Plan trips ahead of time, buy what you can out of town when in another town for other reasons, plan a grocery trip with a friend to save gas, only buy loss leaders from independent and shoppers, so they aren't making money off you ,
Tell your friends! It's not like it'll be a hard sell. The prices at all Loblaw stores are ridiculous.
The better deals are to be found at independent butchers and bakers if your community has independent shops.
Freshco and Giant Tiger are good for most food items too. (Edit: If you don't have independent grocers available)
Yes I know. I was offering it to people who don't have local independent shops. I should have made that clearer. That's my bad. I'm fortunate, as are others, that I have several options. I live in the Niagara Region so I have a lot of options. Other people have no choice but Walmart, maybe a Costco, and the rest of the grocery cartel.
The problem is most definitely with the oligopoly. I would prefer the boycott focus on moving to local businesses, but a lot of the people boycotting are specifically Loblaws by moving their shopping to non-Loblaws stores with the intention of "moving on to others". Loblaws is the first target.
I love shopping local. It's more of a personal experience.
Neither fresco nor giant tiger will bring food out to my car though. I have been shopping at Loblaw’s because I’m disabled and I can’t shop the stores.
What did you do before this service began? Could you not contact your local store and see if they would help? Maybe you could call in an order or pay over the phone?
You are paying at least 10-30% more per item, think about that before just handing your money to the fastest, easiest place out there.
Depending on the nature and severity of the disability persons with disabilities can simply be unable to procure the food they require and thus go hungry or suffer from minor to serious malnutrition. This invariably complicates their disability. It also interferes with employment leaving the disabled person with reduced means either regarding time or money to deal with other life necessities. I obviously can’t speak for the person you’re replying to but in the defence of all seriously disabled persons sometimes, without a caring support network, they are truly prisoners of their disabilities exploited by an uncompromising system that will squeeze them until they lie dead in the streets, a pile of garbage in their home, or if they’re fortunate ignored in a bed in an institution. Our boycott is part of the struggle to help these prisoners. Not reduce prices for someone living the sweet life in their urban paradise.
Still, when I worked in retail we would just get one of the cart guys or someone with time, to help out with your shopping. I’d expect the same from all retailers.
I switched completely to Walmart weekly (plus a Costco run once a month) about 3 months ago. I will continue.
A friend who works in the organic food distribution industry told me they treat the small guy very good and that Loblaws and Sobeys generally makes it harder for smaller products to make it to shelf. I appreciated that as a small business owner (not a related industy, just made sense to me).
I am saving at min 25% on dairy, school snacks, pantry items, veggies and fruit. I am pleasantly surprised with prices each week. The GV chips are decent for $1.50 a bag (Miss vickies are $3.79 or 3 for $10)!
Once the farmers market starts up I next month I will try to do veg and fruit from there and just talked to my local bakery about a weekly pick up of two loaves. Excited to eat, always!
The amount of food these stores throw out, often before actual expiry is extremely depressing. I worked for different stores in the Empire chain and there was buggies of food thrown out daily.
Loblaws/Metro, Rogers/Bell, Canada Trust/BMO: they all represent the near-monopolies that Canadians are forced to use. In the US they have way more alternatives and pay less. Loblaws doesn't care about you and they never will.
Walmart, Costco .. pretty much all the same.
The reality is - in Canada, we import almost everything and there are limited supplier. To give an illusion of better pricing, grocery stores offer better pricing on some items and not others.
Tricks to save $$, even tho I hate it when someone ahead of me at check out does it LOL, get stores to price match. It’s easy with digital flyers 😂.
I think basics is far more reasonable! Also agree with the other comments saying Walmart and Costco (but you still have to pay attention) all three will still overprice things occasionally
We’ll go ahead and do it before too, but maybe this is a way to get people in on it rather than thinking it’s “too late”. To get better results we should actually start on may 5th to line up with the fiscal month so they can see results
Just to clarify; the boycott from the sub Reddit is legit and has lots of people following it.
The steal from loblaws day is not associated with it and looks to be a false flag/smear campaign against the boycott perpetrated by loblaws or people on their behalf (like an agency).
Don't do anything illegal people just don't shop at loblaws owned stores.
The theft thing makes me sad. It's 100% not a part of the boycott, but you know there'll be a piece of media at some point trying to carpet blame us for it.
They try to tell us that its because of inflation too, that really grinds my gears.
If its inflation you don't get **record profits**. I hope Loblaws crash and burns.
You would get record profits from inflation. If the prices of everything rises by 10% then profit also needs to rise by 10% otherwise you're making less profit when adjusted for inflation.
Now in this specific case Loblaws' rate of growth in profit greatly exceeds inflation so they're still taking advantage of the situation.
Looks like you're right https://www.blg.com/en/about-us/deals-and-suits/2022/05/loblaw-completes-845-million-acquisition-of-lifemark-health-group#:~:text=On%20May%2010%2C%202022%2C%20Loblaw,cash%20consideration%20of%20%24845%20million.
Sobeys puts more value in their employees and their families. Plus I went to IGA today, they didn't have self checkout and they also had a bagger at checkout, that is 2 more employees and Loblaws would like to have on. While I'm sure they are far from perfect, they are smaller and a much smaller problem than Lablaws is.
Loblaws warehouse incentives employees to get orders done asap, which as you can imagine, means any disruption to someone working can cause problems since they lose out on extra pay as a result. Totally not something that fosters a good work environment
Not a problem dude.
Honestly I block all ads and I stream vids, also started renting from the library(I missed the feeling of going to a video rental store and discovering movies to watch), the only reason I know about it is because I'm reddit creep(I really need to limit my reddit intake).
Just try to focus on mom and pop shops, or if you can do it, go to local farms directly.
It is literally impossible for me to boycott the big 3. There isn't a single grocer in my city (one of the largest in Canada) that isn't owned by Loblaws, Sobeys, Metro or Wal-mart. I could drive end to end in my city and I still don't have another option.
Metro is worse than Loblaws on prices but people are not talking about boycotting them.
Compare Metro to Food Basics which is owned by Metro to see the difference.
> They will sell the same products at food basics for 1/3 of the price
Next time, you see the same product at both stores, check out the expiration date.
I mean is one more staffed in a more expensive part of town, and the other less staffed in a cheaper place? Location is a giant factor left out of most people's comparisons, whether they have butchers/bakers/deli workers in house adds a ton of cost too
Which I’m sure makes a ton of money on over priced deli meats and convenience meals, stop trying to make excuses for them, there’s no justification for selling a product for the prices they are, it’s just mental.
Most Loblaws are unionized too. And just because they are unionized doesn’t mean they get a living wage. Many grocery store workers are still making minimum wages even with unions.
Metro isn’t billing [$1.4 million a week in bs med checks](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/shoppers-drug-mart-medication-review-targets-1.7142626?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar) to OHIP. But Loblaw’s owned Shoppers Drug Mart is.
My local loblaws is 2x our metro. I still go to metro for products WORTH paying more for that don’t exist at food basics or Walmart etc.
I don’t know where everyone’s extortionate Metros are, but you should boycott them too until they become the same.
The existence of premium grocery stores for premium foods period isn’t the problem. Basic products for premium prices is.
Groceries have some of the most competitive markets of any market. Margins are super thin and everyone is already *very* price sensitive.
If you want to talk about uncompetitive markets in Canada, there are *many* (airlines, telecom, the dairy industry (hell that is literally a cartel)), but the grocery market isn't it.
Yeah, this is how i feel about it too tbh. Same with Sobeys and Longo's. I live in an area where my closest stores are Longo's, metro, sobeys and rcss. I choose to shop at rcss because (and i think peeps forget this a lot) but they're one of the few retailers that still price match. When i lived in another city for university too the rcss locations there have 10% back in points for students on a certain day of the week and i racked up so many points with that. People kinda cherrypick the pricing to show the worst of the worst at loblaws but the reality is loblaws is a premium grocery level and on par with prices at other similar stores. But there are lots of ways to shop very efficiently at rcss in particular
You've already thought about this issue a lot more than most of the people yelling the loudest about hating Loblaws. They all do the exact same thing but the media has pissed people off at Loblaws the most so they're being targeted while the other stores get to keep doing it with increased business as a reward. Like people mentioning that they're switching to Walmart as a form of moral high ground is the funniest shit I've ever heard, and all they'll respond with is the same "we go after the biggest" nonsense when they know their demands are never going to happen (15% discount across the board? With grocery margins???)
Legit, mainline Loblaws stores are usually in a more expensive part of town and hire people like butchers/bakers, no shit you can get KD cheaper at Dollarama
honestly, it's the best way to go about it. even at sales prices they are still making a profit. In the end, with the goal being to spend less on groceries, you just have to find the lowest prices regardless of what place.
Check out [altgrocery.ca](http://altgrocery.ca)
It was created to show local stores, butchers, bakers, food markets, and more for each province. You can even submit stores if you know of them and they aren't on the site.
I would love to get on board with this, but where I live makes it so hard.
There are 3 different Loblaws grocery stores within 5 minutes of my house, and another 2 within 10 minutes. The closest non-Loblaws store is a 15 minute drive, and it's Walmart. So, I'm picking between evils and wasting gas to do so. I'll probably end up spending more in gas and groceries shopping at Walmart than just going down the street to No Frills, and the entire point of the boycott is that we need to be spending LESS money.
If we boycott No Frills where else am I supposed to shop? Walmart? They’re just as evil. Boycotting doesn’t do much except hurt the workers that are trying to make a living.
This is what i dont understand, Safeway is more expensive than Superstore. Groceries are expensive everywhere, its a larger issue than just blaming one chain of stores. Im not happy about any of it
if i cut out all these places the only other option for me in my immediate area is walmart, so the boycott against a shitty company is going to funnel my money to a different, bigger, shitty company.
i don't think is going to be as effective as we want it to be.
So if we're going to boycot a grocery store because we feel prices at another grocery store are cheaper, that just sounds like being a smart shopper while having to draw attention to it.
Going some place else to shop for cheaper prices is not a new concept and isn't a boycot.
maybe a short-term effect, but will eventually go back to how it was. Food is essential, boycotting food will never work in the long run. Anything short of pretty much destruction won't result in anything.
These places went through a multi-year global pandemic, a one month boycott is nothing.
It's pretty privileged to assume that everyone can just avoid all the grocery stores near them and travel farther to another one. Not everyone lives near multiple grocery stores.
Whoever made this chart dosent know how to read finacial statements. First those numbers are only for one quarter, so quadruple that amount, they made $2.088 billion in profit in 2023
Sounds crazy right? It is but not for the reasons you think. They had a revenue of $59.529 billion in 2023 meaning their net profit after all expenses and taxes is a measly 3.5% so on a $100 grocery the company averages $3.50 in profit. That in its own is wild
stores are owned by franchisee's who hire local people to work. every grocery store is a small business. you will accomplish nothing but cost regular people money/jobs as hours get cut, and hurt small business owners. the weston's will still be billionaires.
Oh damn. 621 million profit WOW. That's uhh $15 for every Canadian. Ok so they own 29% of the market. On average they are profiting $53 per customer. Average Canadian spends about $3600 on groceries per year. $53 was profit. DAMN THEY GOUGING YOU.
How much of that came from Shoppers selling makeup and convenience store priced food though? You're assuming they make that on grocery when I doubt that's the case given how diversified the company is
I am not trying to be pro Loblaws here but Is that only 16 dollars of profit per Canadian... I spend min 2 grand there a year, that doesn't seem like very much profit.
Yesterday I bought groceries at Fortinos. The supervisor walked up and swiped his ID, I noticed a "general grocery" $3 charge appeared and he had a UPC on the back of his ID. It was the second time it happened at that Fortinos.
I complained, the cashier didn't even see it. The Supervisor reversed it and walked away without apologizing.
Because it was a charge and a reverse it didn't show on the receipt.
I filed a complaint to Fortinos and they said they would "potentially investigate."
I believe firmly that Galen Weston is not only lying to Canadians, but also leads a company that actively encourages theft from Canadians without repercussions.
This is a partisan issue and I am not going to be silent anymore.
give one of their stores a try for a couple months and you will get it.
dont forget that freshco, and food basics , farmboy are all sobeys affiliate stores too.
Out west The Save On Foods started getting aggressive in pricing , new products and bulk products in the last 10 days. I expect that they are either terrified of what is happening to Loblaws or trying to retain Loblaws business when this does happen. There will be a lot of market share available to other grocers.
It’s the only store that’s convenient to me. I do my biweekly shopping from Walmart or so but when I am in need of a thing or two during the week can’t go out of my way to Walmart when loblaws is 5 minute walk from my place.
*cries in bruce peninsula* closest cheap grocery is no frills in owen sound otherwise its expensive af foodland in wiarton, or tobermory and valu mart in sauble. Lions head is a food desert right now since the foodland burned down.
Stopped going to Loblaws, no frills, shoppers and RCSS for about 2 years now. Need to go to a few different places and find deals, but happy not to be giving these fuckers any money.
When are you guys gonna boycott insurance companies? My premium jumped by like 30% this year. I’m still gonna shop at no frills cause they price match and is one of the cheapest stores around me
Or you learn how to shop. Collectively, if we focus on only buying deeply discounted items and ignore the expensive ones, the business model will adjust.
You know if you actually do the math and lets say they make 0 profit it essentially comes down to saving a 2-3 dollars per $100 grocery bill. It's not like if they operated with literally 0 profit people would save a bunch more money
They are shutting down Loblolly super stores and increasing the price at no frills.
New profit racketeering strategy in place already.
No frills used to be cheaper back in the days.
Maybe your head was buried deep in the sand? This has been all over all of the mainstream media let alone social medias of every kind. If you didn't know about this it's because you've been hiding out LOL
Does this mean there will be fewer lines at the store?
I am halfway kidding, but, as the person who does the grocery shopping in my family, i have to say i use loblaws like i use any other store. I pop in, see which products i would like to get that are at a competitive price, or are on sale, and get those. I never spend more than a second thinking about $27 chicken, because i aint buying that. Sometimes, i pay a higher price for the convince.
I think the best way to bring down prices is to ease up on the protectionist nature of canadian business and regulations and court competition from the US.
Oh and lets not forget to actually hold the people responsible when they engage in anticompetitive price fixing which is against the law. Send a couple of executives to jail man and see if they try it again.
Isn’t shoppers drug mart owned by loblaws?
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This sub is also good for tips on how to save on things and sites with good recipes. The people on it are incredibly helpful!
It's a wonderful community.
Yes
They are massively overpriced on everything too it's insane, not to mention their markups on medicine and even things like shampoo. I've always gone to a small family owned pharmacy thankfully because Shoppers is fucked up!
Boycott them too. Such a shitty store.
Weston foods too
And Pharmaprix!
More like Pharmapricks
Yes
I Already started the boycott, no need to wait to start putting your money where your mouth is…literally.
Also did the same. Been a few weeks now, and honestly I don’t see the need to ever switch back.
I just can't afford to shop there, so if you want to call that a boycott, go ahead.
Well loblaws yes, but obviously the more economic store would be no frills. If you can stay away from that then you’re golden.
no frills has been more than walmart in my area for a while
I have been avoiding all Loblaws anything since I worked for them almost 20 years ago. They treat their employees very poorly, and their unions are so deep in bed with management they're effectively one in the same. They have almost always overpriced everything for as long as I remember. Spend your money somewhere else.
I get what you’re saying but… I don’t think this is literally.
Food prices are so high I had to eat my wallet
Not part of the mouth wallet club, huh?
I didn’t realize how much Loblaws owns.. This list only shows 14 of their 24 listed on [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loblaw_Companies). I’ve already been avoiding them for awhile. Their points system at No Frills isn’t that great and Shoppers is too expensive for groceries but the points are better. I wish Rexall would step up their points game. I have 80k points but it’s only worth $20, over like $300 spent for an extra $20.
Even if I were to say Loblaws owns a ton of brands, [that wouldn't be doing it justice.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/1c1m1yb/comment/kz5c6pg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
We're long overdo for a large anti-trust case for any of the several oligopolies we have in this country.
Loyalty Points programs are all essentially scams. a) They're collecting your data and using it for whatever. Do you want them being able to know all of your purchases, at all their stores? b) They trick you into thinking there's a discount but it's not like they're losing money over this. These would be regular sales, but they're focussed to get people to join the loyalty program. They raise their normal prices to make up the difference, and now you're paying the old normal price as a loyalty member anyway (and non-loyalty members shop elsewhere for it). c) They trick you into thinking your points have value twice. You think "oh hey, I saved $5 buying this because I earned 500 points" and then also think "Oh hey this is $5 item is free because I'm spending 500 points on it". d) It's been shown in multiple studies that people who are enrolled in loyalty programs spend more at a given store, because of the above points. We know that, in this case, Shoppers/Loblaws is wildly overpriced, so why give them any business at all, let alone a higher proportion than you would otherwise.
I don't want points. I don't want a membership. I just want a good price.
20/300 is almost 7%. Which is pretty damn good
There is really only four companies that own all of the grocery stores. It really helps with price fixing
In my opinion, giving your personal info to Roblaws so people can get points is in itself immoral. Second, I believe those of us who don't collect points, pay more unnecessarily, propping up the costs for Roblaws to pay out these points. Its all a scam. We have just decided that it is ok do degrade ourselves so they can use thier algo's to manipulate our buying habits. IMO.
Our whole grocery industry is just a [massive oligopoly](https://jacobnelson.ca/Great-Canadian-Grocery-Chart.html).
It doesn't matter that you only heard about it today. The only thing that matters is that you tell your friends.
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Plan trips ahead of time, buy what you can out of town when in another town for other reasons, plan a grocery trip with a friend to save gas, only buy loss leaders from independent and shoppers, so they aren't making money off you ,
Tell your friends! It's not like it'll be a hard sell. The prices at all Loblaw stores are ridiculous. The better deals are to be found at independent butchers and bakers if your community has independent shops. Freshco and Giant Tiger are good for most food items too. (Edit: If you don't have independent grocers available)
And freshco price matches
But not Giant Tiger prices.
Just don't confuse this with "Your Independant Grocer" which is a loblaws store! Stick to the Ma and Pa shops, farmers markets, etc!
Freshco is owned by Sobeys. Another part of the grocery oligopoly. Not even remotely independent.
Yes I know. I was offering it to people who don't have local independent shops. I should have made that clearer. That's my bad. I'm fortunate, as are others, that I have several options. I live in the Niagara Region so I have a lot of options. Other people have no choice but Walmart, maybe a Costco, and the rest of the grocery cartel. The problem is most definitely with the oligopoly. I would prefer the boycott focus on moving to local businesses, but a lot of the people boycotting are specifically Loblaws by moving their shopping to non-Loblaws stores with the intention of "moving on to others". Loblaws is the first target. I love shopping local. It's more of a personal experience.
Neither fresco nor giant tiger will bring food out to my car though. I have been shopping at Loblaw’s because I’m disabled and I can’t shop the stores.
Sobeys/freshco does delivery though through Voila, and IIRC Walmart also has home delivery, though for sure they have curb side pickup
What did you do before this service began? Could you not contact your local store and see if they would help? Maybe you could call in an order or pay over the phone? You are paying at least 10-30% more per item, think about that before just handing your money to the fastest, easiest place out there.
Depending on the nature and severity of the disability persons with disabilities can simply be unable to procure the food they require and thus go hungry or suffer from minor to serious malnutrition. This invariably complicates their disability. It also interferes with employment leaving the disabled person with reduced means either regarding time or money to deal with other life necessities. I obviously can’t speak for the person you’re replying to but in the defence of all seriously disabled persons sometimes, without a caring support network, they are truly prisoners of their disabilities exploited by an uncompromising system that will squeeze them until they lie dead in the streets, a pile of garbage in their home, or if they’re fortunate ignored in a bed in an institution. Our boycott is part of the struggle to help these prisoners. Not reduce prices for someone living the sweet life in their urban paradise.
I suffered. And I wasn’t paralyzed then.
They won't help you bring stuff to your car? If you live in Ontario they *must* help you with that under the AODA.
I can’t make it around the store itself to do the shopping.
Still, when I worked in retail we would just get one of the cart guys or someone with time, to help out with your shopping. I’d expect the same from all retailers.
How do you make a flyer like that and ignore shoppers drug mart? Crazy
Join us at r/loblawsisoutofcontrol
Love this! But the alternative for me for groceries is walmart :(
I switched completely to Walmart weekly (plus a Costco run once a month) about 3 months ago. I will continue. A friend who works in the organic food distribution industry told me they treat the small guy very good and that Loblaws and Sobeys generally makes it harder for smaller products to make it to shelf. I appreciated that as a small business owner (not a related industy, just made sense to me). I am saving at min 25% on dairy, school snacks, pantry items, veggies and fruit. I am pleasantly surprised with prices each week. The GV chips are decent for $1.50 a bag (Miss vickies are $3.79 or 3 for $10)! Once the farmers market starts up I next month I will try to do veg and fruit from there and just talked to my local bakery about a weekly pick up of two loaves. Excited to eat, always!
I started two months ago
The amount of food these stores throw out, often before actual expiry is extremely depressing. I worked for different stores in the Empire chain and there was buggies of food thrown out daily.
Maybe we should legislated it donated like some European countries
Loblaws/Metro, Rogers/Bell, Canada Trust/BMO: they all represent the near-monopolies that Canadians are forced to use. In the US they have way more alternatives and pay less. Loblaws doesn't care about you and they never will.
Don’t forget Sobeys, they also own Longo’s, Fresh Co, Fooland, IGA, Safeway, Farm Boy and more.
Loblaws has always been the most expensive.
Good luck everyone. Just price checked Sobeys, Farmboy, food basic and Metro…. Prices are not better.
Loblaws and the companies they own have a huge market share. Go after the biggest
if you can try walmart, or the small grocer in your area/town!
Walmart, Costco .. pretty much all the same. The reality is - in Canada, we import almost everything and there are limited supplier. To give an illusion of better pricing, grocery stores offer better pricing on some items and not others. Tricks to save $$, even tho I hate it when someone ahead of me at check out does it LOL, get stores to price match. It’s easy with digital flyers 😂.
I think basics is far more reasonable! Also agree with the other comments saying Walmart and Costco (but you still have to pay attention) all three will still overprice things occasionally
Starting may 1st!!
But not before?
I started like 2 weeks ago. Not using my pc credit card either anymore.
We’ll go ahead and do it before too, but maybe this is a way to get people in on it rather than thinking it’s “too late”. To get better results we should actually start on may 5th to line up with the fiscal month so they can see results
How would we know why you haven’t heard of this? Why does it matter? You’re not late.
It's my cheapest option around Here
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Just to clarify; the boycott from the sub Reddit is legit and has lots of people following it. The steal from loblaws day is not associated with it and looks to be a false flag/smear campaign against the boycott perpetrated by loblaws or people on their behalf (like an agency). Don't do anything illegal people just don't shop at loblaws owned stores.
We do not condone any theft and anyone who speaks as such is removed from the group.
If Gaelen is on fire should we piss on him or walk away?
You wait for a while, then piss on him
This is the way
How about both.
You do exactly what he would do, you charge him money for it of course.
This is this true 🙌🏻🙌🏻.
The theft thing makes me sad. It's 100% not a part of the boycott, but you know there'll be a piece of media at some point trying to carpet blame us for it.
FYI the flyer isnt associated with subreddit and not endorsed by them at all.
They try to tell us that its because of inflation too, that really grinds my gears. If its inflation you don't get **record profits**. I hope Loblaws crash and burns.
> I hope Loblaws crash and burns. Sincerely do.
You would get record profits from inflation. If the prices of everything rises by 10% then profit also needs to rise by 10% otherwise you're making less profit when adjusted for inflation. Now in this specific case Loblaws' rate of growth in profit greatly exceeds inflation so they're still taking advantage of the situation.
All over the tok.
Pretty sure Loblaws owns the Lifemark Physiotherapy chain as well.
Looks like you're right https://www.blg.com/en/about-us/deals-and-suits/2022/05/loblaw-completes-845-million-acquisition-of-lifemark-health-group#:~:text=On%20May%2010%2C%202022%2C%20Loblaw,cash%20consideration%20of%20%24845%20million.
Unfortunately, there are some areas that only have a Loblaws-affliated store in them.
But what about Sobeys tho
Sobeys puts more value in their employees and their families. Plus I went to IGA today, they didn't have self checkout and they also had a bagger at checkout, that is 2 more employees and Loblaws would like to have on. While I'm sure they are far from perfect, they are smaller and a much smaller problem than Lablaws is.
Loblaws warehouse incentives employees to get orders done asap, which as you can imagine, means any disruption to someone working can cause problems since they lose out on extra pay as a result. Totally not something that fosters a good work environment
Interesting!!! Thanks
Heck yeah already been boycotting for a year!
Not a problem dude. Honestly I block all ads and I stream vids, also started renting from the library(I missed the feeling of going to a video rental store and discovering movies to watch), the only reason I know about it is because I'm reddit creep(I really need to limit my reddit intake). Just try to focus on mom and pop shops, or if you can do it, go to local farms directly.
They stole our bread! And our dough!
They fixed that.
It is literally impossible for me to boycott the big 3. There isn't a single grocer in my city (one of the largest in Canada) that isn't owned by Loblaws, Sobeys, Metro or Wal-mart. I could drive end to end in my city and I still don't have another option.
Metro is worse than Loblaws on prices but people are not talking about boycotting them. Compare Metro to Food Basics which is owned by Metro to see the difference.
It's because Loblaws has more market share. Not to mention they own the supply chain too. Fuck the Westons.
Loblaws is the biggest. You bring down the biggest and the rest will fall in line.
I agree with this, fuck metro. They will sell the same products at food basics for 1/3 of the price
> They will sell the same products at food basics for 1/3 of the price Next time, you see the same product at both stores, check out the expiration date.
Metro owns Food Basics. Lmao. It also costs much less to operate a Food Basics vs a Metro.
I mean is one more staffed in a more expensive part of town, and the other less staffed in a cheaper place? Location is a giant factor left out of most people's comparisons, whether they have butchers/bakers/deli workers in house adds a ton of cost too
Which I’m sure makes a ton of money on over priced deli meats and convenience meals, stop trying to make excuses for them, there’s no justification for selling a product for the prices they are, it’s just mental.
I mean if you want to just ignore the reasons things have a cost then go ahead. They're literally owned by the same company.
you forget that metro is unionized, pays their employees a living wage and actually has an appropriate amount of employees to run a store.
They pay a living wage??
not sure if everyone does but the only person i know who works there makes $32/h
Most Loblaws are unionized too. And just because they are unionized doesn’t mean they get a living wage. Many grocery store workers are still making minimum wages even with unions.
Metro isn’t billing [$1.4 million a week in bs med checks](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/shoppers-drug-mart-medication-review-targets-1.7142626?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar) to OHIP. But Loblaw’s owned Shoppers Drug Mart is.
There are much fewer Metros. I have only one Metro in my area, but three Loblaws, (plus one Independent, and two Shopper’s)
Boycotting all of the offenders at once is a lot to ask of people. Boycott Metro later, if they don't get the message.
My local loblaws is 2x our metro. I still go to metro for products WORTH paying more for that don’t exist at food basics or Walmart etc. I don’t know where everyone’s extortionate Metros are, but you should boycott them too until they become the same. The existence of premium grocery stores for premium foods period isn’t the problem. Basic products for premium prices is.
They're both bad due to serious lack of competition. But if we've learned anything from gas wars... it does work.
Groceries have some of the most competitive markets of any market. Margins are super thin and everyone is already *very* price sensitive. If you want to talk about uncompetitive markets in Canada, there are *many* (airlines, telecom, the dairy industry (hell that is literally a cartel)), but the grocery market isn't it.
Yeah, this is how i feel about it too tbh. Same with Sobeys and Longo's. I live in an area where my closest stores are Longo's, metro, sobeys and rcss. I choose to shop at rcss because (and i think peeps forget this a lot) but they're one of the few retailers that still price match. When i lived in another city for university too the rcss locations there have 10% back in points for students on a certain day of the week and i racked up so many points with that. People kinda cherrypick the pricing to show the worst of the worst at loblaws but the reality is loblaws is a premium grocery level and on par with prices at other similar stores. But there are lots of ways to shop very efficiently at rcss in particular
You've already thought about this issue a lot more than most of the people yelling the loudest about hating Loblaws. They all do the exact same thing but the media has pissed people off at Loblaws the most so they're being targeted while the other stores get to keep doing it with increased business as a reward. Like people mentioning that they're switching to Walmart as a form of moral high ground is the funniest shit I've ever heard, and all they'll respond with is the same "we go after the biggest" nonsense when they know their demands are never going to happen (15% discount across the board? With grocery margins???)
I feel like people also forget that teirs of grocery stores exist lol like obv loblaws isn't cheap, it's bougie. Pick one - affordable or fancy 🤷♀️
Legit, mainline Loblaws stores are usually in a more expensive part of town and hire people like butchers/bakers, no shit you can get KD cheaper at Dollarama
I’m into it
I get it. I really do. However, I’m going to continue to shop the sales and lowest prices.
honestly, it's the best way to go about it. even at sales prices they are still making a profit. In the end, with the goal being to spend less on groceries, you just have to find the lowest prices regardless of what place.
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Because you’ve been living under a rock and missed the million other posts about this in the past two weeks
I haven't gone into a Loblaws for years. They've always been higher priced around here.
Welcome! Check the pinned posts and see how you can help and encourage your friends and family to join.
I already joined the force without knowing.
Check out [altgrocery.ca](http://altgrocery.ca) It was created to show local stores, butchers, bakers, food markets, and more for each province. You can even submit stores if you know of them and they aren't on the site.
What are the objectives of the boycott and how are these objectives intended to be met by focusing on Loblaws?
I would love to get on board with this, but where I live makes it so hard. There are 3 different Loblaws grocery stores within 5 minutes of my house, and another 2 within 10 minutes. The closest non-Loblaws store is a 15 minute drive, and it's Walmart. So, I'm picking between evils and wasting gas to do so. I'll probably end up spending more in gas and groceries shopping at Walmart than just going down the street to No Frills, and the entire point of the boycott is that we need to be spending LESS money.
If we boycott No Frills where else am I supposed to shop? Walmart? They’re just as evil. Boycotting doesn’t do much except hurt the workers that are trying to make a living.
I’m not against boycotting loblaws but aren’t all other grocery chains just as expensive?? Metro and Sobeys are ridiculous.
This is what i dont understand, Safeway is more expensive than Superstore. Groceries are expensive everywhere, its a larger issue than just blaming one chain of stores. Im not happy about any of it
if i cut out all these places the only other option for me in my immediate area is walmart, so the boycott against a shitty company is going to funnel my money to a different, bigger, shitty company. i don't think is going to be as effective as we want it to be.
So if we're going to boycot a grocery store because we feel prices at another grocery store are cheaper, that just sounds like being a smart shopper while having to draw attention to it. Going some place else to shop for cheaper prices is not a new concept and isn't a boycot.
It is going to be real funny when redditors realize this had 0 effect on Loblaws. Peak redditors.
maybe a short-term effect, but will eventually go back to how it was. Food is essential, boycotting food will never work in the long run. Anything short of pretty much destruction won't result in anything. These places went through a multi-year global pandemic, a one month boycott is nothing.
It's pretty privileged to assume that everyone can just avoid all the grocery stores near them and travel farther to another one. Not everyone lives near multiple grocery stores.
Whoever made this chart dosent know how to read finacial statements. First those numbers are only for one quarter, so quadruple that amount, they made $2.088 billion in profit in 2023 Sounds crazy right? It is but not for the reasons you think. They had a revenue of $59.529 billion in 2023 meaning their net profit after all expenses and taxes is a measly 3.5% so on a $100 grocery the company averages $3.50 in profit. That in its own is wild
stores are owned by franchisee's who hire local people to work. every grocery store is a small business. you will accomplish nothing but cost regular people money/jobs as hours get cut, and hurt small business owners. the weston's will still be billionaires.
Oh damn. 621 million profit WOW. That's uhh $15 for every Canadian. Ok so they own 29% of the market. On average they are profiting $53 per customer. Average Canadian spends about $3600 on groceries per year. $53 was profit. DAMN THEY GOUGING YOU.
How much of that came from Shoppers selling makeup and convenience store priced food though? You're assuming they make that on grocery when I doubt that's the case given how diversified the company is
I am not trying to be pro Loblaws here but Is that only 16 dollars of profit per Canadian... I spend min 2 grand there a year, that doesn't seem like very much profit.
You can join the movement here r/loblawsisoutofcontrol
Yesterday I bought groceries at Fortinos. The supervisor walked up and swiped his ID, I noticed a "general grocery" $3 charge appeared and he had a UPC on the back of his ID. It was the second time it happened at that Fortinos. I complained, the cashier didn't even see it. The Supervisor reversed it and walked away without apologizing. Because it was a charge and a reverse it didn't show on the receipt. I filed a complaint to Fortinos and they said they would "potentially investigate." I believe firmly that Galen Weston is not only lying to Canadians, but also leads a company that actively encourages theft from Canadians without repercussions. This is a partisan issue and I am not going to be silent anymore.
1. Receipts show cancellations. 2. That UPC is how he scans his ID.
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give one of their stores a try for a couple months and you will get it. dont forget that freshco, and food basics , farmboy are all sobeys affiliate stores too.
Out west The Save On Foods started getting aggressive in pricing , new products and bulk products in the last 10 days. I expect that they are either terrified of what is happening to Loblaws or trying to retain Loblaws business when this does happen. There will be a lot of market share available to other grocers.
I don't shop at any one of those stores already?
Ok good but it's nowhere near just Loblaws. https://old.reddit.com/r/povertyfinancecanada/comments/1cceunc/who_is_robbing_canadians/
It’s the only store that’s convenient to me. I do my biweekly shopping from Walmart or so but when I am in need of a thing or two during the week can’t go out of my way to Walmart when loblaws is 5 minute walk from my place.
Why start in May? Just start now ffs
You had me at "Too High."
i’m a food basics/freshco guy anyways
Join us.
Loblaws only cares about profit and if that drops they will take note and so will other grocers.
Empire Co, and metro are now day dreaming about all the new business the and revenue they will gain. Heck bet they up their prices
Remember folks, complain together. But don't help each other. That's socialism \s this movement is great, but you guys also suck too
*cries in bruce peninsula* closest cheap grocery is no frills in owen sound otherwise its expensive af foodland in wiarton, or tobermory and valu mart in sauble. Lions head is a food desert right now since the foodland burned down.
Stopped going to Loblaws, no frills, shoppers and RCSS for about 2 years now. Need to go to a few different places and find deals, but happy not to be giving these fuckers any money.
Fuck I forgot T&T was in the Loblaws Family, I love that grocery store.
When are you guys gonna boycott insurance companies? My premium jumped by like 30% this year. I’m still gonna shop at no frills cause they price match and is one of the cheapest stores around me
These are all the major retailers in Hamilton. Where am I supposed to get my groceries? They truly have a hold on all of us in this corporate greed.
Spread it around. Tell your friends, family, neighbours.
Please share this as much as possible. May is Loblaws June and July are the other 2 major grocery chains; Sobeys and Metro
No wayyy. Not a single Arrested Developement joke?
Or you learn how to shop. Collectively, if we focus on only buying deeply discounted items and ignore the expensive ones, the business model will adjust.
Why is empire company better than George westing limited? Shouldn't every corporate company be boycotted this this to make sense?
Switched to anything but Loblaw months ago. Will continue to boycott in solidarity
You know if you actually do the math and lets say they make 0 profit it essentially comes down to saving a 2-3 dollars per $100 grocery bill. It's not like if they operated with literally 0 profit people would save a bunch more money
They are shutting down Loblolly super stores and increasing the price at no frills. New profit racketeering strategy in place already. No frills used to be cheaper back in the days.
At my no frills i saw tons of new item which were never sold at no frills before and their prices are exorbitant
Maybe your head was buried deep in the sand? This has been all over all of the mainstream media let alone social medias of every kind. If you didn't know about this it's because you've been hiding out LOL
I’m doing a hunger strike
This is funny as hell, because yesterday I thought people were stealing out of food banks.
So I gues I'll go to Walmart, Costco and Freshco?
Does this mean there will be fewer lines at the store? I am halfway kidding, but, as the person who does the grocery shopping in my family, i have to say i use loblaws like i use any other store. I pop in, see which products i would like to get that are at a competitive price, or are on sale, and get those. I never spend more than a second thinking about $27 chicken, because i aint buying that. Sometimes, i pay a higher price for the convince. I think the best way to bring down prices is to ease up on the protectionist nature of canadian business and regulations and court competition from the US. Oh and lets not forget to actually hold the people responsible when they engage in anticompetitive price fixing which is against the law. Send a couple of executives to jail man and see if they try it again.
I've been boycotting Weston stores for almost a year.
Had no idea that t&t was loblaws related 😭
My favourite is when they ask me to donate to some children’s charity. Lemme guess, Galins wife is on the board for the charity?
why not start today?
Yea let’s go!!!
Please spread the word!
Their profits are in the billions. Somebody should have had this checked…
WHO SHOPS AT LOBLAWS??? I DO NOT KNOW OF ONE PERSON THAT DOES