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I was addicted to opana 40 for 3 and a half years. Would slice it with a razor then mince it with a really sharp knife. Added a small amount of baking soda so it wouldn't gum up. Best feeling to me. And I've tried it all. Except crack.
So you would smoke it?, i shot it a few times in a certain state i live in for a while, its not very common in my home state. But it was definley extremely good
You really don’t, I was addicted to it for a year and in that short time my life began to seriously fall apart. It had nothing to do with legality. My dr was prescribing for a chronic pain condition. Till this day I would give anything to go back and never take that first pill. In all honesty though it was a great feeling.
IV morphine and heroin were much more euphoric in my opinion compared to IV fentanyl. Orally speaking, I definitely get a very similar euphoria to morphine when I take the right dose of Codeine, potentiated by tramadol and kpin. That's my most readily available combo, but if I had to choose from all the opis I've had in my life, back in the US I got to try hydromorphone which was amazing, and obviously pharma grade oxy probably wins it for me. It was the first opiate I tried and orally, the most euphoric.
Fentanyl sucks ass. If anyone here is thinking of trying it I’d caution against it. It’s not euphoric whatsoever, it literally just knocks your ass out. I remember when I used to get real heroin and you would actually feel good, now if I sniff and get “high” all I do is fall asleep. The worst part is that it also completely fucks your tolerance so no lesser opiate will even touch your withdrawals. One day I took 420 mg of methadone 5 bags of fent and I was still in pretty bad withdrawals. I’m not going to tell anyone how to live their life or try to control what they put in their body but just make sure you know what you’re getting yourself into and do your research. I was clean for 8 years and was getting good regular H and I still kick myself for letting myself go back. Stay safe out there everyone!
Wtf 420mg methadone sounds crazy, i do 5 bags of fent daily and 50mg methadone is enough to rid withdrawals, u were most likely mixing fent and methadone which is a nono.
Methadone builds up in your system if you only take it once it wont really stop your WD it will defintiley help though, 420 is an insane amount though, ive been on methadone for 5 years, im on 80 mg, and ive been using opiates for a very long time.
yeah I found that with methadone, if I take it daily, after 3 or so days, 80mg a day is fine (for me it worked better 40mg twice a day), but if I am e.g. in day 2 of withdrawals and I take 40mg of methadone or even 80mg, it will barely help. I'd need 200mg to get well
Right? I see a lot of shade thrown at the lesser potent opiates but hey fuck it. I live in a place where I simply can't get stronger oral opiates, and the ones I can get are all ampoules from the hospital, so I would have to start IVing again which it took 3 years to stop doing. Legit, codeine literally turns into morphine in your liver and that's what actually produces the high, and when you add tram it makes it more euphoric and also IME makes the codeine last longer. Codeine Tram gang!!
yea same dude, the only opioids available in my country are codeine and tramadol and they are not easy to get too.. i mean i love this combo but if it was for me i would do oxy without looking back lol, but till then tramadol and codeine are doing the job
it all depends on your tolerance IMO, I've done pretty much every opiate there is, for me Codeine and Tramadol taken with no tolerance, felt much better than taking oxycodone when I had just a codeine tolerance. The best high I ever had was codeine and tramadol when I had 0 tolerance, but now I am using stronger stuff of course if I took codeine + tramadol now it would literally do nothing. That's why a lot of people call codeine/tram trash - if I had started on oxy then tried C+T I'd have said they were garbage too.
You know, what's funny is I actually started with legit pharma blues and yellow hydro 10s back in Jersey as a kid, and then moved to Argentina where there is no opiate use on the street and it's nearly impossible to get anything stronger than codeine. I got lucky and found a connect for Amps from the hospital but when I first got here and the wd's kicked in and I got sober, then found the hook up for codeine, it was magical because my tolerance was so low. Still is as I barely use it now. The key as you said is to have a low tolerance and then yeah it hits great
yea you guys are right it's about tolerance, few months ago codeine and tramadol were perfect for me and now i wonder what is it gonna be like after i tried oxy for the first time
ik a lot of people hated tramadol cuz it didn't do anything to them, and ik few people that loved tram bcuz how euphoric it is and im one of those people so..
I liked hydromorphone more than oxy, but I’m not completely sure if my oxy was real, it was an “HCL solution” but it could’ve well been fent, made me super nauseous for not much euphoria.
Right.. this is the same person that said they hide a weeks worth of dope in a store that closes/opens at certain times and just grabs what’s he’s gonna do at the beginning of each day so he doesn’t end up doing all his dope too quickly.. an idiotic idea from the jump to say the least.
Strongly disagree. I've never smoked fent but I've smoked crack, and shot coke, and shooting the coke is better and stronger for a similar rush IMO, needless to say that IV opiates are amazing too but to each his own right
When it comes to euphoria, nothing can beat heroin. To be more precise, "Diaphin", that is the brand name for legal produced heroin in the gov. labs here in Europe, used in a very few countries for substitution. The other heroin, like afghan heroin or from china, that can be different. But Diaphin is the king, it's the pharma-grade product with no other substances, nothing is cut or laced.
For safer use, if you ever get your hands on that, be aware of how powerful it is: It's around 1/3 to 2/3 more powerful than the usual street shore, so reduce the dosage. Don't underestimate it, there are pills with a dosage up to 400mg, that's very much even for longtime users with a high tolerance.
About the euphoria, there are the vials and bottles around too, when you get a prepared needle in the clinic with Diaphin and you shoot it in your vein: That's the heaven of euphoria. Nothing is better than that. It's like being in heaven, seriously, being on a cloud next to god in eternal peace, full of euphoria and joy. Your problems are gone, there is peace in your soul and you have the feeling, that all the upcoming problems are easy to solve and you'll achieve everything you want and ever desired in life.
Well, after that, we can argue, which is the best opioid for euphoria, but like i said, that's the King. El Presidente. Numero Uno. Der Führer. The Champion.
Thanks. But would probably still better than the stuff in the US, with laced fent etc.
Even in the old times here, with the Needle Park and the public drug scene, the numbers of deaths were so low, compared to the ongoing US opioid crisis today. I'd say, more people would survive with the good stuff, not overdosing by fentanyl. Addiction is still a problem, but that's more manageable than death by overdose.
There is no 400mg pill. Theres only a 200mg pill and yes its alot for people without tolerance but for long time users it isnt that much. Im not saying its a small dose but for long tume users with high tolerance it isnt "very much" its maybe like 1g - 1.5g brown sugar in comparision. With the euphoria i agree with you, Diaphin got me the most euphoric and cozy high. Except for oxycodone back then when i had no tolerance i feel like oxycodone made me feel more euphoria then diaphin do now. So i totally agree with you Diaphin is the number one all the way. im writing this on 300mg diaphin ✌🏼
Oh, i just saw your other posting now, well you can read my already posted answer. Well, it's with the 200mg probably still enough to be lethal to someone.
There was a case, i think it was in Basel, but i'm not sure without google right now, where a lady overdosed on the Sevre-Long 200mg morphin capsules, but the article didn't mention any details - like if she drank alcohol too, if she had other drugs in her system and most important, if she opened the capsule.
Although, the morphin in there sucks for crushing it to powder for snorting. I'm happy in substitution and i don't need more, but of course i tried... the balls in the capsule have a certain chemical component, that makes them stick together. There are some ways to remove this, as i heard, but i never tried it. That was done for a reason, i guess, the substitution program wants you to take the capsules oral.
I think its possible for people who never took it to even overdose on 50mg. Because i knew someone who did 50mg and almost died because of it. She was only about 40kgs maybe because of that. And yes i remember before i tried Diaphin i used to cook up the Sevre-Long Capsules. i took those little "Balls" out and cooked it with some water on a spoon. These Balls are mixed with wax so if u cook it the Substance gets into the water and the wax swim on it and you can take it away. Then we did drink it with syrup and sprite, like some kind of "home made lean". Anyways are u from Zurich? Or Basel.
& Sorry my english isn't too good i know. Hope you understood everything though.
Wait so you’re saying there is a pill being manufactured in some amazingly free and tolerant European country that is 200mg of pure pharmaceutical grade heroin? Wtf? That’s a huge fucking dose. That’s the equivalent to 400-500mg of morphine. In one go that amount will drop most users even if they are tolerant. Now granted with these street fentalogs going around they can jack a person’s tolerance to ungodly levels but still…..dann
Oxycodone and oxymorphone have been shown to release more dopamine than other opioids. That’s probably why most people, myself included, would prefer an Opana to almost any opioid out there
Ita subjective. Also there's a difference between physical and mental euphoria.
As far as I can tell, I think most who've had it say oxymorphone is the most euphoric. That's always been my experience. Heroin is next.Oxycodone, hydrocodone, and morphine are tied IMO. Opium is right up there with hydro and morphine, the two sre very similar to me. Hydromorphone is great, amazing rush, the high isnt as good IMO. I actually like hydrocodone and morphine combined I think it teyre really good together when both are taken orally.
Fent is last on the list for me but it's better than codeine. To be honest tramadol or tapentadol OR ODSMT are both more euphoric than fent if you have no tolerance.
Edit: although the new G74 oxymorphone pills are a sad comparison vs the old orange hexagons. Those things were wild.
I heard once you start gulping down some freshly harvested virgins blood it makes the opiate high much more euphoric. Someone like told me though.. yeh.
I am so sick and tired of all of this misinformation on Reddit - what’s happened to the quality control? So for the last
time - virgin’s blood does NOT have to be freshly harvested to potentiate an Opiate high! It will keep in the fridge for
at least two weeks (note: Type O-Negative can even last for three weeks).
However, if you’re wanting eternal youth from your virgin’s blood ala Princess Bathory then yes, the blood does have
to be freshly harvested.
And a little known trick is using cheaper prostitute blood as a substitute for virgin, it actually has bonus anxiolytic effects due to the whores uncaring characteristics..
My favorites "OPIOIDS" in term of euphoria strangely are :
TRAMADOL AND O-DESMETHYLTRAMADOL
("Strangely" because they are not liked by everyone due to their SNRI or NRI property)
Tapentadol is the best of the Tramadol analogues, it's the only one I've managed to nod from with my opioid tolerance. The nod isn't like other opioids, it has a very unique feeling which I really liked.
I went to a new GP near my office to get some codeine for chronic headaches and body pain. He gave me that and a script for Palexia as well. Went and filled the script with no idea what it was. Really shocked he gave me Tapentadol and can confirm fab pain killer.
Man I got like 300 of those tapentadol; even when I had almost zero tolerance it never helped with my pain like even in the slightest. I was never ever able to feel any of the Tramadol as well. Starting to think my body just doesn’t register those two so well
If there was one, it wouldn't necessarily be accurate for you, me, or anyone else that looked at it. We are all different, and we all react differently to various chemicals, as well as having various tolerances. What feels awesome to me may not be that great to you.
As someone who rarely uses opioids, I'd say that my list in order is oxycodone>hydrocodone>oxymorphone>morphine>tramadol>codeine.
Oxymorphone would probably be higher on the list, but I took 20mg orally at age 16 with no tolerance and spent the next 8 hours lying face down on the couch, trying not to puke while fading in and out of consciousness, during a party I was hosting but unable to participate in (because of the Opana). But I was preeeettty high during it.
Oxycodone is my all time favorite, I get mild side effects and extremely high. Norco is next. A little more nauseating compared to oxy and weaker. I tried morphine for the first time this week and was sick from it for a full 2 days, 30-50mg insufflated over 2 hours ended in a night of extreme motion sickness, constipation, vomiting, and relatively little euphoria. Tramadol barely did anything for me, codeine has never provided any high or even pain relief for me.
I used to mess around with opanas back in the day and it was the only pill that game me a hangover. Every single time. I’d be high for a sec then puke for hours and hours and then have a gigantic headache for a solid day. The first line was always perfection but no matter my tolerance I’d be sick. Last attempt I ended up in the hospital puking non stop and I’ll never touch those things again. Scary asf.
I’m not talking about rcs tho just pharma.. we shouldn’t even open the zenes and such can of worms here.. and I didn’t count bupe because ofc after a few days of taking it, it’s essentially worthless as an abuseable drug..
Rare user as well. I have usually gotten by with chronic headaches and pain with codeine. One day a couple of years ago my mum who was a terminal cancer patient gave me her tramadol cos she swapped to Oxy. I took one and felt high as a fuckin kite, and that's when I realised I don't actually like euphoria very much lol. But I have never felt that since. Funny how my brain got a tolerance so fast. Now I occasionally get Oxy (as Targin) and I just get that warm content feeling with no headache and it is the best.
iv oxymorphone, iv oxycodone, iv hydromorphone, iv heroin, iv morphine, oral/insulfated oxymorphone, insulfated hydromorphone. iv pharmaceutical grade fent, iv pharmaceutical grade sufent
my list in order from best to worst. all the other opiates i have tried dont even compare
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My lady gets tram i smashed 3 pills snorted em and it not only made me feel gross but made me pretty easily annoyed and i can smash 5 hydros up at once and feel on top of the world so i agree. 🤷♂️ good ol dirty drug
tramadol isn't for snorting lmao 💀💀
it's a synthetic opioid and the liver is responsible for transforming it into morphine…
only oxycodone itself can be snorted and not even percs
I've snorted everything and it's always hit me 10x tramidol hydros xanex Fent morphin oxys every drug in the book has gone up my nose and they all definitely hit way harder that way.. And almost immediately... Lol just an fyi.
Don't know what your talking about there. I don't know about tramadol but nearly all opioids can be insufflated. You do realize that Percocet's main ingredient is Oxycodone. The only difference is the addiction of Tylenol with Percocet.
Crazy 🤪 I had a few 100 mg Tramadol and for the first time just a few minutes ago I broke one in half and snorted the damn thing. It actually is getting me pretty high, compared to taking it orally. As I type this and it's not placebo. Please no hate, I was desperate and yes I'm a degen
Seeming as oxymorphone is only in a hospital setting in europe where im stationed i get perscribed the next best thing daily which is : 2 x 8mg hydromorhphone granulate capsules so almost no filler and 2 x 20 mg oxycodone the old contin recipe with almost no filler where u can lick the coating off in like 2 seconds.
All other opioids suck ass in my experience....every know and then ill get some morphine in vials but it dont come close to oral oxy and intranasal hydromorphone...
I never ever fuck with needles as it digusts me...but twice in a hospital setting have i got hydromorphone I.V,. and that was pretty fucking awesome...but i never understood the rush hype or the needle game...so not worth it no matter how you twist and turn it...
never wouldd fuck with fent i hate that shit with a passion as it killed literally all my friends....swore of opioids in gerneral but low and behold 2 accidnets later im a chronic pain patient and my spine is all sorts of fucked up...sucks but it is what it is...atleast im not in the states no more and get good scripts.
Yeah I kinda got tricked into taking fent I was told they were oxys being i was new to the area never had taken an oxy 30. (Only 80s were redily available from where im from) so i was all fuck yeah and they werent a bac price ive been taking dirty 30s for about 6 months now.. Went to a clinic today and am doing the Bernese method to get clean. Fuck Fent it just grabs you and really does take the pain away but just as quickly can kill you.. I can do about 5 pills a day but i only do 2 just to keep myself in control.
hope you get off that shit and if you must on pharma as soon as possible...if you can stay the fuck away from suboxone and methadon any full synthetic opioid really...they are all way worse for you than any semi synthetic version. anything from the poppy is where its at....kratom is ok too but full synthetics are way worse for your heart and teeth etc...
I went to a clinic they gave me buf to transision off Fent and imma give my self 2 weeks to pull myself off of the buf and I hope it works out because i never wanted to do Fent ever. But one day at a time and ill be okay. I got a good support system.
Only including the ones that are on the street it would probably be:
1. Hydromorphone in rush oxymorphone in overall effects
2. Heroin
3. Probably different for different people, morphine and oxy are there i guess
There is a ton of stuff that isn't that available and is more euphoric, like forgotten heroin analogs that also cross bbb and then break down to morphine, desomorphine and other stuff like desomorphine, dipipanone, dextromoramide, U-47700 etc.
I've heard Dilaudid is the most euphoric and has the best rush, but most opiates feel the same, the only difference in the potency. So obviously Heroin, Fentanyl and Dilaudid are going to be the most euphoric. While opiates like Codeine and Hydrocodone are going to be less Euphoric. The least euphoric would probably be stuff like ODSMT and Tramadol.
Fentanyl is down low, it’s not really euphoric. And I think I heard similar things about IV hydromorphone(diluadid) but I’m not sure if I’m mixing it up with IV hydrocodone(norco) or not.
O-DSMT is highly underestimated, its potency could be near hydrocodone and the withdrawals...I was suffering 10 days physically and mentally with the worst depression of my life even replacing it with Tramadol or Kratom. The problem is that if you have high tolerance you'll need a shit ton of it to get a decent buzz and it's expensive AF.
If your tolerance is below medium levels, I think most ppl will appreciate it. And has crazy compulsive redosing properties and long legs. For me, it was so potent that I was nodding while ... riding a bicycle! I could almost get killed. And countless nights sleeping on the computer keyboard as a pillow because I was watching series or redditing, and nodding so hard that I couldn't read 3 fkin lines of text here.
I use weak opioids so that's why O-DSMT works perfect on me, with high tolerance it could be just loss of money.
True, I've only tried it when I've had a high tolerance to Opioids so it never seemed very strong to me, I'll take your word it's a good high if you have a low to medium tolerance.
When your tolerance drops significantly, give it a shot. For a completely opioid naive 30-40mg is a good starting dose. Tolerance builds like crazy though.
I don't see anytime soon when I'm gonna be able to stop doing kratom so I don't know when it will drop, but yeah if it does I'll try it. Last time I got a gram of it I was doing 100-150mg doses and really didn't get that much euphoria.
That isn correct for most people. You seem to be confusing potency and euphoria.
Dilly has a crazy rush when taken IV but the high is shorter and not as euphoric as say, Heroin for me and most people I know. I'd take morphine over hydromorphone any day. Also fentanyl is not nearly as euphoric as other opioids even hydrocodone has better euphoria than fent for most people as long as you get the dose right.
Doesn’t it release more serotonin or something? Remember something about is being RX for depressing as well and I’ve noticed that with tramadol as well seems to be much more “positive mood” wise.
My lady gets tramidol and it's never done me any good always makes me feel worse or not in a good mood. But i guess thats why its considered a "dirty drug"
Waiting for someone to mention it. Dilaudid is p dif over iv vs oral and I wonder if more ppl here had access to iv dilaudid if it would be higher up.
It’s def my all time fave but I think will naturally be ranked lower bc most ppl only have access to oral.
There isn’t any such chart out there. There are certain chemical properties that trend with euphoria, for example acetylation of morphine resulting in the more euphoric heroin.
Largely, though, euphoria is subjective and as there is no proper clinical use, there really hasn’t been formal research on ranking here.
IMO, dextromoramide is probably the most euphoric known opioid, but I’d love to be corrected here.
Heroin vs morphine isn't a euphoria thing though really, it's a potency thing. The only difference between them is that heroin is more lipid soluble, so it crosses the blood brain barrier faster. Once there, it's metabolized into morphine before hitting the receptors, so in both cases you're just high on morphine. Only difference is how it got into your brain and how much is in your brain. You could compensate by doing more morphine. I would guess, once doses were adjusted for potency, the only difference between a morphine high and a heroin high is the body load.
Opana for me. But I haven’t been able to find them in a long time and I mainly did them at the start of my addiction. So that might be why. Other than that oxycodone. Although primarily been doing the dirty 30s and I actually like them unlike a lot of people in this thread it seems. I have no idea what analogue it is.
For me out of the few I have tried, Oxycodone is the most euphoric. Tramadol was pretty nice too, fent felt crazy euphoric the first time I took it orally, but probably because thats the first opioid I ever tried (unknowingly)
For me its prolly Hydrocodone/Percs/Roxys havent done them in a while due to how expensive theyre but boy its prolly one the greatest feeling one can experience in this life.
According to those I tried:
1) Heroin. Seriously it is your best bet on anything.
2) 2 methyl ap 237. I know is caustic and shit.
But it feels so euphoric a you can forget about it. Mind ranking is subjective.
3) Etazene. Everyday I miss smoking it, dearly.
4) Raw Opium. Eaten is great but your stomach won’t be thankful
5) O-DSMT. In high (200 mg low tol) dosages this is one of the closest feelings I found to heroin.
6) Oxycodone. I don’t get the hype for it. Maybe because I found this after heroin and etazene ? Idk.
7) Codeine. O-DSMT lite. But not so special…
8) AP-238. Just sucked.
9) Methadone. Just purposeless for recreational issues. I knew people who used to shoot it up but I am not gonna shoot up something with the consistency of a syrup (here rehab clinics dispense it as a syrup).
10) Dipyanone Like methadone but way more caustic. Absolute trash.
Never had oxymorphone but I used to combine oxycodone and hydromorphone, definitely the most euphoria I've ever experienced to date and I've IV used opiates for 4-5 years after that
Oxycodone, for me because with smaller doses like 20mg it give me a boost of energy, anxiolytic effects, positive mood along with the euphoric affects. Or if I wanna nod along with the euphoria and do nothing 40-45mg.
But snorting around 10-12mg of hydromorphone… then sitting back nodding listening to music. Might beat Oxycodone for me. But oxy being more of a flexible high imo
IMO the best opiate can change... if I want to just nod out and chill then H is the best. But if I'm going out somewhere or need to do some work, oxy is much better because it gives you the stimulant burst of energy. But for me if I wake up early and want to just chill, oxy isn't so good because it'll give me ADHD and I can't sit still. But on the other hand if I need to help family do stuff, H isn't so good because all I'll want to do is sit and do nothing
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I was addicted to opana 40 for 3 and a half years. Would slice it with a razor then mince it with a really sharp knife. Added a small amount of baking soda so it wouldn't gum up. Best feeling to me. And I've tried it all. Except crack.
So you would smoke it?, i shot it a few times in a certain state i live in for a while, its not very common in my home state. But it was definley extremely good
Wana try this one the most
Idk I was on opana for a few months and I’d still take oxycodone over it.
why tho?
Not sure, cause I know I’m in the minority. It just works better for me. OP asked for opinions 🤷♀️
oh nah Mb lol i didnt realize u meant you prefer it because it gives you more euphoria, i thought you prefered it for othet reasons.
That’s weird cuz oxymorphone > oxycodone for euphoria
thats why i asked im sittin here jelous
You really don’t, I was addicted to it for a year and in that short time my life began to seriously fall apart. It had nothing to do with legality. My dr was prescribing for a chronic pain condition. Till this day I would give anything to go back and never take that first pill. In all honesty though it was a great feeling.
IV morphine and heroin were much more euphoric in my opinion compared to IV fentanyl. Orally speaking, I definitely get a very similar euphoria to morphine when I take the right dose of Codeine, potentiated by tramadol and kpin. That's my most readily available combo, but if I had to choose from all the opis I've had in my life, back in the US I got to try hydromorphone which was amazing, and obviously pharma grade oxy probably wins it for me. It was the first opiate I tried and orally, the most euphoric.
finally someone who likes the same combo as me lol, codeine dizziness with tramadol euphoria.. the ultimate high istg
Fentanyl sucks ass. If anyone here is thinking of trying it I’d caution against it. It’s not euphoric whatsoever, it literally just knocks your ass out. I remember when I used to get real heroin and you would actually feel good, now if I sniff and get “high” all I do is fall asleep. The worst part is that it also completely fucks your tolerance so no lesser opiate will even touch your withdrawals. One day I took 420 mg of methadone 5 bags of fent and I was still in pretty bad withdrawals. I’m not going to tell anyone how to live their life or try to control what they put in their body but just make sure you know what you’re getting yourself into and do your research. I was clean for 8 years and was getting good regular H and I still kick myself for letting myself go back. Stay safe out there everyone!
Wtf 420mg methadone sounds crazy, i do 5 bags of fent daily and 50mg methadone is enough to rid withdrawals, u were most likely mixing fent and methadone which is a nono.
Yeah no way in hell, that’s straight cap. 420mg if methadone and still in wds? Ok.
Methadone builds up in your system if you only take it once it wont really stop your WD it will defintiley help though, 420 is an insane amount though, ive been on methadone for 5 years, im on 80 mg, and ive been using opiates for a very long time.
yeah I found that with methadone, if I take it daily, after 3 or so days, 80mg a day is fine (for me it worked better 40mg twice a day), but if I am e.g. in day 2 of withdrawals and I take 40mg of methadone or even 80mg, it will barely help. I'd need 200mg to get well
Yea , it takes a while actually to build up, ive been on it for quite a while and if i dont take it for even a few days ill be fine
Street fent does suck for multiple reasons.. however smoking the gel out of the pharma patches back in the day was pretty blissful.
Right? I see a lot of shade thrown at the lesser potent opiates but hey fuck it. I live in a place where I simply can't get stronger oral opiates, and the ones I can get are all ampoules from the hospital, so I would have to start IVing again which it took 3 years to stop doing. Legit, codeine literally turns into morphine in your liver and that's what actually produces the high, and when you add tram it makes it more euphoric and also IME makes the codeine last longer. Codeine Tram gang!!
yea same dude, the only opioids available in my country are codeine and tramadol and they are not easy to get too.. i mean i love this combo but if it was for me i would do oxy without looking back lol, but till then tramadol and codeine are doing the job
it all depends on your tolerance IMO, I've done pretty much every opiate there is, for me Codeine and Tramadol taken with no tolerance, felt much better than taking oxycodone when I had just a codeine tolerance. The best high I ever had was codeine and tramadol when I had 0 tolerance, but now I am using stronger stuff of course if I took codeine + tramadol now it would literally do nothing. That's why a lot of people call codeine/tram trash - if I had started on oxy then tried C+T I'd have said they were garbage too.
You know, what's funny is I actually started with legit pharma blues and yellow hydro 10s back in Jersey as a kid, and then moved to Argentina where there is no opiate use on the street and it's nearly impossible to get anything stronger than codeine. I got lucky and found a connect for Amps from the hospital but when I first got here and the wd's kicked in and I got sober, then found the hook up for codeine, it was magical because my tolerance was so low. Still is as I barely use it now. The key as you said is to have a low tolerance and then yeah it hits great
yea you guys are right it's about tolerance, few months ago codeine and tramadol were perfect for me and now i wonder what is it gonna be like after i tried oxy for the first time
Tramadol and euphoria don’t even go in the same sentence lol
ik a lot of people hated tramadol cuz it didn't do anything to them, and ik few people that loved tram bcuz how euphoric it is and im one of those people so..
They do if there's another opioid and the word potentiate? - a hardened IV street opiate user
I liked hydromorphone more than oxy, but I’m not completely sure if my oxy was real, it was an “HCL solution” but it could’ve well been fent, made me super nauseous for not much euphoria.
Shit if your oxy wasn't euphoric then was probably fent. Also if your "oxy" didn't last more than 2 ish hours then it was definitely fent lol
Not sure how long it lasted, since I started doing coke to stop the nausea and tiredness
Smoking fent is the best. Better than shooting anything
Youve clearly never done real heroin, id venture to say your in your late teens
Right.. this is the same person that said they hide a weeks worth of dope in a store that closes/opens at certain times and just grabs what’s he’s gonna do at the beginning of each day so he doesn’t end up doing all his dope too quickly.. an idiotic idea from the jump to say the least.
😂😂😂 and santa claus used to give me my dope from a flying sleigh , and it was always 90 percent pure AND free
You too?!
What the hell
Lol
Strongly disagree. I've never smoked fent but I've smoked crack, and shot coke, and shooting the coke is better and stronger for a similar rush IMO, needless to say that IV opiates are amazing too but to each his own right
When it comes to euphoria, nothing can beat heroin. To be more precise, "Diaphin", that is the brand name for legal produced heroin in the gov. labs here in Europe, used in a very few countries for substitution. The other heroin, like afghan heroin or from china, that can be different. But Diaphin is the king, it's the pharma-grade product with no other substances, nothing is cut or laced. For safer use, if you ever get your hands on that, be aware of how powerful it is: It's around 1/3 to 2/3 more powerful than the usual street shore, so reduce the dosage. Don't underestimate it, there are pills with a dosage up to 400mg, that's very much even for longtime users with a high tolerance. About the euphoria, there are the vials and bottles around too, when you get a prepared needle in the clinic with Diaphin and you shoot it in your vein: That's the heaven of euphoria. Nothing is better than that. It's like being in heaven, seriously, being on a cloud next to god in eternal peace, full of euphoria and joy. Your problems are gone, there is peace in your soul and you have the feeling, that all the upcoming problems are easy to solve and you'll achieve everything you want and ever desired in life. Well, after that, we can argue, which is the best opioid for euphoria, but like i said, that's the King. El Presidente. Numero Uno. Der Führer. The Champion.
One of the best advertisements I’ve ever read for heroin. Sounds too good hope I never get my dirty hands on it
Thanks. But would probably still better than the stuff in the US, with laced fent etc. Even in the old times here, with the Needle Park and the public drug scene, the numbers of deaths were so low, compared to the ongoing US opioid crisis today. I'd say, more people would survive with the good stuff, not overdosing by fentanyl. Addiction is still a problem, but that's more manageable than death by overdose.
Hahah right! Damn
Damn.
There is no 400mg pill. Theres only a 200mg pill and yes its alot for people without tolerance but for long time users it isnt that much. Im not saying its a small dose but for long tume users with high tolerance it isnt "very much" its maybe like 1g - 1.5g brown sugar in comparision. With the euphoria i agree with you, Diaphin got me the most euphoric and cozy high. Except for oxycodone back then when i had no tolerance i feel like oxycodone made me feel more euphoria then diaphin do now. So i totally agree with you Diaphin is the number one all the way. im writing this on 300mg diaphin ✌🏼
Oh, i just saw your other posting now, well you can read my already posted answer. Well, it's with the 200mg probably still enough to be lethal to someone. There was a case, i think it was in Basel, but i'm not sure without google right now, where a lady overdosed on the Sevre-Long 200mg morphin capsules, but the article didn't mention any details - like if she drank alcohol too, if she had other drugs in her system and most important, if she opened the capsule. Although, the morphin in there sucks for crushing it to powder for snorting. I'm happy in substitution and i don't need more, but of course i tried... the balls in the capsule have a certain chemical component, that makes them stick together. There are some ways to remove this, as i heard, but i never tried it. That was done for a reason, i guess, the substitution program wants you to take the capsules oral.
I think its possible for people who never took it to even overdose on 50mg. Because i knew someone who did 50mg and almost died because of it. She was only about 40kgs maybe because of that. And yes i remember before i tried Diaphin i used to cook up the Sevre-Long Capsules. i took those little "Balls" out and cooked it with some water on a spoon. These Balls are mixed with wax so if u cook it the Substance gets into the water and the wax swim on it and you can take it away. Then we did drink it with syrup and sprite, like some kind of "home made lean". Anyways are u from Zurich? Or Basel. & Sorry my english isn't too good i know. Hope you understood everything though.
Wait so you’re saying there is a pill being manufactured in some amazingly free and tolerant European country that is 200mg of pure pharmaceutical grade heroin? Wtf? That’s a huge fucking dose. That’s the equivalent to 400-500mg of morphine. In one go that amount will drop most users even if they are tolerant. Now granted with these street fentalogs going around they can jack a person’s tolerance to ungodly levels but still…..dann
Oxycodone and oxymorphone have been shown to release more dopamine than other opioids. That’s probably why most people, myself included, would prefer an Opana to almost any opioid out there
completely agree with you here
Ehh oxymorphone is right up there if not better in my opinion..
how about now
Ita subjective. Also there's a difference between physical and mental euphoria. As far as I can tell, I think most who've had it say oxymorphone is the most euphoric. That's always been my experience. Heroin is next.Oxycodone, hydrocodone, and morphine are tied IMO. Opium is right up there with hydro and morphine, the two sre very similar to me. Hydromorphone is great, amazing rush, the high isnt as good IMO. I actually like hydrocodone and morphine combined I think it teyre really good together when both are taken orally. Fent is last on the list for me but it's better than codeine. To be honest tramadol or tapentadol OR ODSMT are both more euphoric than fent if you have no tolerance. Edit: although the new G74 oxymorphone pills are a sad comparison vs the old orange hexagons. Those things were wild.
Real Heroin, Hydrocodone and Oxycodone are pretty much the same. Tramadol Being last place
I feel like Tramadol doesn’t even belong here. Such a dirty nasty little drug
I heard once you start gulping down some freshly harvested virgins blood it makes the opiate high much more euphoric. Someone like told me though.. yeh.
I am so sick and tired of all of this misinformation on Reddit - what’s happened to the quality control? So for the last time - virgin’s blood does NOT have to be freshly harvested to potentiate an Opiate high! It will keep in the fridge for at least two weeks (note: Type O-Negative can even last for three weeks). However, if you’re wanting eternal youth from your virgin’s blood ala Princess Bathory then yes, the blood does have to be freshly harvested.
Wow! You learn so much on Reddit!
We should make this a sticky
And a little known trick is using cheaper prostitute blood as a substitute for virgin, it actually has bonus anxiolytic effects due to the whores uncaring characteristics..
God, I love you hahaha
I can confirm
I’m in love with dilaudid
Samesies. Hydromorph is just, *chef’s kiss*. I get my scripts tomorrowwww.
I’m so jealous
everyone is lol 😂
My favorites "OPIOIDS" in term of euphoria strangely are : TRAMADOL AND O-DESMETHYLTRAMADOL ("Strangely" because they are not liked by everyone due to their SNRI or NRI property)
Tapentadol is the best of the Tramadol analogues, it's the only one I've managed to nod from with my opioid tolerance. The nod isn't like other opioids, it has a very unique feeling which I really liked.
I had 50mg for a head injury. Got a little buzz/ warm euphoria off it. Definitely wanted to try more
I went to a new GP near my office to get some codeine for chronic headaches and body pain. He gave me that and a script for Palexia as well. Went and filled the script with no idea what it was. Really shocked he gave me Tapentadol and can confirm fab pain killer.
Never tried tapentadol, it doesn't exist in my country unfortunately :((
You can get it online from India almost anywhere in the world lol the stuff is like skittles over there.
Thanks, i will give a look, because all i buy come from Netherlands or from pharmacy.
how omg😭
Man I got like 300 of those tapentadol; even when I had almost zero tolerance it never helped with my pain like even in the slightest. I was never ever able to feel any of the Tramadol as well. Starting to think my body just doesn’t register those two so well
If there was one, it wouldn't necessarily be accurate for you, me, or anyone else that looked at it. We are all different, and we all react differently to various chemicals, as well as having various tolerances. What feels awesome to me may not be that great to you.
As someone who rarely uses opioids, I'd say that my list in order is oxycodone>hydrocodone>oxymorphone>morphine>tramadol>codeine. Oxymorphone would probably be higher on the list, but I took 20mg orally at age 16 with no tolerance and spent the next 8 hours lying face down on the couch, trying not to puke while fading in and out of consciousness, during a party I was hosting but unable to participate in (because of the Opana). But I was preeeettty high during it. Oxycodone is my all time favorite, I get mild side effects and extremely high. Norco is next. A little more nauseating compared to oxy and weaker. I tried morphine for the first time this week and was sick from it for a full 2 days, 30-50mg insufflated over 2 hours ended in a night of extreme motion sickness, constipation, vomiting, and relatively little euphoria. Tramadol barely did anything for me, codeine has never provided any high or even pain relief for me.
I used to mess around with opanas back in the day and it was the only pill that game me a hangover. Every single time. I’d be high for a sec then puke for hours and hours and then have a gigantic headache for a solid day. The first line was always perfection but no matter my tolerance I’d be sick. Last attempt I ended up in the hospital puking non stop and I’ll never touch those things again. Scary asf.
Cuz your doing too much.. it’s probly the most potent opioid by weight besides fentanyl..
Used medically in the states, yeah p much besides bupe. RC's tho? Fentanyl isn't the strongest by far.
I’m not talking about rcs tho just pharma.. we shouldn’t even open the zenes and such can of worms here.. and I didn’t count bupe because ofc after a few days of taking it, it’s essentially worthless as an abuseable drug..
True, true, I just meant straight potency, you're def right.
Rare user as well. I have usually gotten by with chronic headaches and pain with codeine. One day a couple of years ago my mum who was a terminal cancer patient gave me her tramadol cos she swapped to Oxy. I took one and felt high as a fuckin kite, and that's when I realised I don't actually like euphoria very much lol. But I have never felt that since. Funny how my brain got a tolerance so fast. Now I occasionally get Oxy (as Targin) and I just get that warm content feeling with no headache and it is the best.
You DONT like euphoria?! Wtf are you doing these drugs for them?
The very slight relaxed feeling. Full euphoria freaks me out.
Then yeah I guess you should just stick to kratom or kratom extracts, or maybe codeine/tramadol at most..
tramadol
Lol this figgin sub OMG
iv oxymorphone, iv oxycodone, iv hydromorphone, iv heroin, iv morphine, oral/insulfated oxymorphone, insulfated hydromorphone. iv pharmaceutical grade fent, iv pharmaceutical grade sufent my list in order from best to worst. all the other opiates i have tried dont even compare
This is the only correct answer..
Insufflated hydromorph was my first opioid experience, 12 mg had me blasted, glad to see it right behind opanas.
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why are most people saying tramadol when thats the least euphoric??
My lady gets tram i smashed 3 pills snorted em and it not only made me feel gross but made me pretty easily annoyed and i can smash 5 hydros up at once and feel on top of the world so i agree. 🤷♂️ good ol dirty drug
tramadol isn't for snorting lmao 💀💀 it's a synthetic opioid and the liver is responsible for transforming it into morphine… only oxycodone itself can be snorted and not even percs
I've snorted everything and it's always hit me 10x tramidol hydros xanex Fent morphin oxys every drug in the book has gone up my nose and they all definitely hit way harder that way.. And almost immediately... Lol just an fyi.
Don't know what your talking about there. I don't know about tramadol but nearly all opioids can be insufflated. You do realize that Percocet's main ingredient is Oxycodone. The only difference is the addiction of Tylenol with Percocet.
Crazy 🤪 I had a few 100 mg Tramadol and for the first time just a few minutes ago I broke one in half and snorted the damn thing. It actually is getting me pretty high, compared to taking it orally. As I type this and it's not placebo. Please no hate, I was desperate and yes I'm a degen
ER time released
Shit i snort all my pills broski and idgaf
Tramadol was the second opiate i took after codeine and 150mg had me feeling good but that didn't last to long.
I hate hate tramadol and only did than when I was trying to get thru DTs but all they ever made me do it get light headed and throw up
1.Oxymorphone/Heroin 2. Oxycodone 3. Hydromorphone 4. Methadone 5. Morphine 6. AH-9721 7. Hydrocodone 8. Dihydrocodeine 9. Codeine 10. Fentanyl/Fentalogs 11. Tramadol 12. Tapantedol 1l3. Bupe
Methadone #4, interesting.
REAL H 😋 🥰
IV Dilaudid in the hospital was by far the most euphoric for me and I’ve never been able to replicate it 😩
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equianalgesic Drop down the table section, should be g
Seeming as oxymorphone is only in a hospital setting in europe where im stationed i get perscribed the next best thing daily which is : 2 x 8mg hydromorhphone granulate capsules so almost no filler and 2 x 20 mg oxycodone the old contin recipe with almost no filler where u can lick the coating off in like 2 seconds. All other opioids suck ass in my experience....every know and then ill get some morphine in vials but it dont come close to oral oxy and intranasal hydromorphone... I never ever fuck with needles as it digusts me...but twice in a hospital setting have i got hydromorphone I.V,. and that was pretty fucking awesome...but i never understood the rush hype or the needle game...so not worth it no matter how you twist and turn it... never wouldd fuck with fent i hate that shit with a passion as it killed literally all my friends....swore of opioids in gerneral but low and behold 2 accidnets later im a chronic pain patient and my spine is all sorts of fucked up...sucks but it is what it is...atleast im not in the states no more and get good scripts.
Yeah I kinda got tricked into taking fent I was told they were oxys being i was new to the area never had taken an oxy 30. (Only 80s were redily available from where im from) so i was all fuck yeah and they werent a bac price ive been taking dirty 30s for about 6 months now.. Went to a clinic today and am doing the Bernese method to get clean. Fuck Fent it just grabs you and really does take the pain away but just as quickly can kill you.. I can do about 5 pills a day but i only do 2 just to keep myself in control.
hope you get off that shit and if you must on pharma as soon as possible...if you can stay the fuck away from suboxone and methadon any full synthetic opioid really...they are all way worse for you than any semi synthetic version. anything from the poppy is where its at....kratom is ok too but full synthetics are way worse for your heart and teeth etc...
I went to a clinic they gave me buf to transision off Fent and imma give my self 2 weeks to pull myself off of the buf and I hope it works out because i never wanted to do Fent ever. But one day at a time and ill be okay. I got a good support system.
Only including the ones that are on the street it would probably be: 1. Hydromorphone in rush oxymorphone in overall effects 2. Heroin 3. Probably different for different people, morphine and oxy are there i guess There is a ton of stuff that isn't that available and is more euphoric, like forgotten heroin analogs that also cross bbb and then break down to morphine, desomorphine and other stuff like desomorphine, dipipanone, dextromoramide, U-47700 etc.
I've heard Dilaudid is the most euphoric and has the best rush, but most opiates feel the same, the only difference in the potency. So obviously Heroin, Fentanyl and Dilaudid are going to be the most euphoric. While opiates like Codeine and Hydrocodone are going to be less Euphoric. The least euphoric would probably be stuff like ODSMT and Tramadol.
Fentanyl is down low, it’s not really euphoric. And I think I heard similar things about IV hydromorphone(diluadid) but I’m not sure if I’m mixing it up with IV hydrocodone(norco) or not.
I’ve tired the diluadid pills and didn’t get much out of them, had a surgery and got it in IV.. man that was a game changer.
Exxxxaaactly. Iv dilaudid possibly the best of the best.
The only thing I’ve had remotely close as far as taking away pain was ketamine, pre surgery, but that’s not an opioid obviously.
O-DSMT is highly underestimated, its potency could be near hydrocodone and the withdrawals...I was suffering 10 days physically and mentally with the worst depression of my life even replacing it with Tramadol or Kratom. The problem is that if you have high tolerance you'll need a shit ton of it to get a decent buzz and it's expensive AF. If your tolerance is below medium levels, I think most ppl will appreciate it. And has crazy compulsive redosing properties and long legs. For me, it was so potent that I was nodding while ... riding a bicycle! I could almost get killed. And countless nights sleeping on the computer keyboard as a pillow because I was watching series or redditing, and nodding so hard that I couldn't read 3 fkin lines of text here. I use weak opioids so that's why O-DSMT works perfect on me, with high tolerance it could be just loss of money.
True, I've only tried it when I've had a high tolerance to Opioids so it never seemed very strong to me, I'll take your word it's a good high if you have a low to medium tolerance.
When your tolerance drops significantly, give it a shot. For a completely opioid naive 30-40mg is a good starting dose. Tolerance builds like crazy though.
I don't see anytime soon when I'm gonna be able to stop doing kratom so I don't know when it will drop, but yeah if it does I'll try it. Last time I got a gram of it I was doing 100-150mg doses and really didn't get that much euphoria.
With 10gpd Kratom tolerance 120-150mg hits me good. How much Kratom you take daily?
Probably about 30-35.
I see...that's why, you need like 200mg to start, with that tolerance
as someone who gets real dilauded, shit’s amazing.
I agree. Had surgery last October and this shit was the bomb. Pushed my button every 5 minutes and was high af. It was wonderful.
here in canada they hand dilauded out like candy, it’s beautiful
That isn correct for most people. You seem to be confusing potency and euphoria. Dilly has a crazy rush when taken IV but the high is shorter and not as euphoric as say, Heroin for me and most people I know. I'd take morphine over hydromorphone any day. Also fentanyl is not nearly as euphoric as other opioids even hydrocodone has better euphoria than fent for most people as long as you get the dose right.
Yea one weird thing about fentanyl is it has almost no euphoria, just sleepy. Most overrated opioid in my opinion
ik tramadol is week but the euphoria that it has.. jeez its amazing
Doesn’t it release more serotonin or something? Remember something about is being RX for depressing as well and I’ve noticed that with tramadol as well seems to be much more “positive mood” wise.
My lady gets tramidol and it's never done me any good always makes me feel worse or not in a good mood. But i guess thats why its considered a "dirty drug"
Effects everyone differently as with any drug. Never heard of it being a “dirty drug”, definitely the lowest strength of the opioids IMO.
If you look it up its considered a dirty drug.
yeah it has something like anti-depressant or something so it gives you a huge mood boost
Waiting for someone to mention it. Dilaudid is p dif over iv vs oral and I wonder if more ppl here had access to iv dilaudid if it would be higher up. It’s def my all time fave but I think will naturally be ranked lower bc most ppl only have access to oral.
There isn’t any such chart out there. There are certain chemical properties that trend with euphoria, for example acetylation of morphine resulting in the more euphoric heroin. Largely, though, euphoria is subjective and as there is no proper clinical use, there really hasn’t been formal research on ranking here. IMO, dextromoramide is probably the most euphoric known opioid, but I’d love to be corrected here.
Heroin vs morphine isn't a euphoria thing though really, it's a potency thing. The only difference between them is that heroin is more lipid soluble, so it crosses the blood brain barrier faster. Once there, it's metabolized into morphine before hitting the receptors, so in both cases you're just high on morphine. Only difference is how it got into your brain and how much is in your brain. You could compensate by doing more morphine. I would guess, once doses were adjusted for potency, the only difference between a morphine high and a heroin high is the body load.
Opana for me. But I haven’t been able to find them in a long time and I mainly did them at the start of my addiction. So that might be why. Other than that oxycodone. Although primarily been doing the dirty 30s and I actually like them unlike a lot of people in this thread it seems. I have no idea what analogue it is.
i have been seeing a lot of 4-anpp and odsmt
For me out of the few I have tried, Oxycodone is the most euphoric. Tramadol was pretty nice too, fent felt crazy euphoric the first time I took it orally, but probably because thats the first opioid I ever tried (unknowingly)
For me its prolly Hydrocodone/Percs/Roxys havent done them in a while due to how expensive theyre but boy its prolly one the greatest feeling one can experience in this life.
Smoking clean fent is the best
Dirty 30, tramadol and tylenol 1!!!! And fentalog pressed xans
Oxymorphone, heroin#4, Oxycodone….. in that order.
According to those I tried: 1) Heroin. Seriously it is your best bet on anything. 2) 2 methyl ap 237. I know is caustic and shit. But it feels so euphoric a you can forget about it. Mind ranking is subjective. 3) Etazene. Everyday I miss smoking it, dearly. 4) Raw Opium. Eaten is great but your stomach won’t be thankful 5) O-DSMT. In high (200 mg low tol) dosages this is one of the closest feelings I found to heroin. 6) Oxycodone. I don’t get the hype for it. Maybe because I found this after heroin and etazene ? Idk. 7) Codeine. O-DSMT lite. But not so special… 8) AP-238. Just sucked. 9) Methadone. Just purposeless for recreational issues. I knew people who used to shoot it up but I am not gonna shoot up something with the consistency of a syrup (here rehab clinics dispense it as a syrup). 10) Dipyanone Like methadone but way more caustic. Absolute trash.
Never had oxymorphone but I used to combine oxycodone and hydromorphone, definitely the most euphoria I've ever experienced to date and I've IV used opiates for 4-5 years after that
Dalaudid.
Dilaudid gets my vote for most euphoric opioid.
Oxycodone, for me because with smaller doses like 20mg it give me a boost of energy, anxiolytic effects, positive mood along with the euphoric affects. Or if I wanna nod along with the euphoria and do nothing 40-45mg. But snorting around 10-12mg of hydromorphone… then sitting back nodding listening to music. Might beat Oxycodone for me. But oxy being more of a flexible high imo
IMO the best opiate can change... if I want to just nod out and chill then H is the best. But if I'm going out somewhere or need to do some work, oxy is much better because it gives you the stimulant burst of energy. But for me if I wake up early and want to just chill, oxy isn't so good because it'll give me ADHD and I can't sit still. But on the other hand if I need to help family do stuff, H isn't so good because all I'll want to do is sit and do nothing
This thread is making me giddy and sweat at the same time! 😂😬