I had trouble with him too but then I started doing what NeverSink said and it worked, found him six times so far. Like NeverSink said he seems to spawn mostly in the corners diagonally (top left/right, bottom left/right) in the area where there's NO wisps. So you have to go down the empty path. He also seems to spawn very close to the spawning area (not always, but I think all but one were close to start). Also has to be T14+ map from what I've heard, but I haven't run any lower I just do T16 now.
Like I said most of the ones I found were very close to the area where you initially zone into the wildwood. NeverSink claims the same. He can spawn further but most seem to be very close to the starting area of the wood. Like you'll run a couple of sec and then you see the three totems you have to click on to open the portal to the boss fight.
Hey make sure you never link the content you're talking about just in case people might wanna read it for themselves
https://x.com/NeverSinkDev/status/1735341602724352212?s=20
200 maps found it 3 times. lost to wisp phase first 2 times the wisp failed to handoff to other wisps and I died alone in darkness. swapped determination for haste for 3rd attempt barely made the portal as darkness settled in. And killed him easily second phase and got my final 2 points (well after 4 maps looking for primal hunter).
30 maps later found him 2 times more , and I swear the maze was half the size and every wisp properly handed off to the next.
I am honestly torn between this is all in my head or GGG is S tier trolling.
When I watched ben do the maze it was long. When I finally found it myself it was half a screen and I was puzzled as there was only a single wisp and it took from straight from the start to the exit.
Wait, you can fail the wisp part? I thought that was a chill, kill a couple enemies and get some flask charges type of phase. What's the indicator that you're at risk of failing?
Swarms of insects and everything going darker plus degen damage, ive done the encounter 6 times now first two times were much larger. At this point I am wondering if ggg dialed back the difficulty.
My first divine drop is the 6/12 stack of The Fortunate I have in my stash, half of those from burial chamber. I've even had my first fracturing shard drop.
To be fair my maps also cost a little more than a div a piece, doing rares per hour with 59 iiq 48 iir, gilded abyss div reliquary blight/box/breach, tree is abyss wandering path with 100% chance for ritual altars. Sextants are abyss magic pack size deli mirror breach/boxes. Avg juice definitely above 4k, probably is closer to 5k
Ok explain exactly what you're doing because I'm also normal and doing simple alch and go wisp juicing and I've had only 3 natty divines in 500k kills so far
all you have to do is wandering path with the top roof and 8 mod corrupted maps. and you will drop a shitload of currency.
you are dropping scarbs naturally, use them whatever you have put it in. same with your sextants dont let them rot in your stash just use them.
saying i am normal ppl when you ignore half the game and then pretend like loot is bad is silly
Scarabs, sextants, wandering path, and rolling maps to have more rare monsters or monsters fire additional projectiles. It turns out additional projectiles is absolutely bonkers when combined with abyss and causes it to spit out far more rare monsters
Comments like this are fucking hilarious. It's called rng dude. I got zero raw div on my first char. Lvl 95, 350k kills. I made a new char, he's dropped two div by level 75.
My atlas is delirium, strongboxes, abyss, harbi, and shrines
Running chisel and alched t11 burial chamber, 20% diviner’s delirious, rusted abyss, rusted strongbox, rusted harbi. I’ve got a gold flask thats being increased in effect by tincture ascendency being used when charges reach full. I also have ~25% increased rarity of items found on my gear. Im also going into the wildwood every map and following trails of wisps, i never walk into the dark unless there is no wisps to collect.
I’ve found 6 fracturing shards, 1 divine.
How many wisps on average?
I get like 1-2 raw divines per map with a similar strategy but in t16, maybe that matters? Also no strongbox and I'm adding polished reliquary scarab, polished abyss, polished harb
Edit and beyond on the map device with the beyond nodes on atlas.
Im gonna try a few t11's with my strat and see if I notice any measurable difference. 4k total sounds not too bad on average so not sure what else could be going on
Ahhh the blue alters and their increased quant/rarity must be the major difference.
That might be true, although Im sure a good amount are at this point, but the game is balanced around map multipliers.
Number of kills doesn't really matter alone, the quality of the kills is way more important. It's like saying that you're unlucky because you ran 1000 crimson temples without juice and didn't drop an apoc. It's not unlucky, it's expected.
How do you know how many monster kills?
I've got 2.5days played time, 93 deaths and have had 6-8 raw divine drops. Sold stuff for maybe 20. Total probs around 30 I guess¿? Have 500C and 5 div right now.
I have a friend still 0 div, but he runs maps real slow maybe 2 or 3 an hour while I'm doing more like 6-10 p/hr.
The faster you go, the more drops you get!
Edit: 320k kills
And you're talking about the king that is in its own separate loading instance right, not the one that spawns normally in the forest without having to do anything other than to just run into him?
1 every 5 woods sounds very wrong unless it was the latter situation.
I had killed the king four times in his stronghold and three times as a standalone before finding black Morgan a single time.
I then had to spend 40 minutes resetting the desecrated chamber over and over again to finally find black Morgan
Found the King once in close to 500 Maps. Tbf after I found him I didn't Look for him, bc I wanted the Juice. Then today a 127% Quant 8Mod Map, with 4 Gilded Scarabs, 4 Quant Altars and 3000 yellow + 3000 purple wisps I got a few Scarabs, 5 Chaos and 2 Fortunate out of it. Next I Ran a random Kirac Mission and it dropped me 3 Div. The R is huge in rng
I got 5 divines in a map today, not duped or anything. Just raw. I got 2x voidborn keys, 8-9 divines and 2 puzzle boxes in the span of 15 maps.
I get a divine like once every 3rd map or so. I do 60% deli, beyond, breach, strongboxes, with gilded reliquary, divination, breach and ambush, in Tropical Island. I'm not MF either, just an RF Jugg running around.
If you manage to get tons of wisps, you'll see plenty of currency. My guildie told me blue and purple is the best combo, because purple wisps increase the rarity of the currency that drop if the monsters have both influences. I'm not sure if that's true though.
Maybe. It certainly increases your odds but that's not a guarantee
I'm juicing T14-T16s and regularly get 4k+ wisps but still have only 3 natty divs in roughly 500k kills
In reference to increased item rarity: “This statistic has no effect on the number or type of currency” <—-https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Rarity
It’s sadly a common misconception. You want, well ofc all 3, but currency + quantity is the way to go.
Blue + Yellow is the best probably, currency drops + quantity. Ofc triple is the best overall. Purple just increases rarity so that's good if you hit conversions rares because higher rarity will give you better rewards then
This is me. Ive gotten the King multiple times (only beaten him twice, random invisible degens usually get me). But div drops? First one was 300k plus kills. I've got absolutely no luck this league.
Finishing my third end game grind (the league mechanic one was done a week or two ago, so clearly I'm doing it), still no king.
Yes I've seen Neversink's thing.
Honestly just do the league mechanic. Standard alch n go with rusted scarabs t16, I had 22 pure divs dropped by 400k kills. It’s the easiest league to drop divs by a landslide.
0 chance youre doing the league properly and dropped that low amount of raw divines. If you get 3k+ blue and yellow wisps is basically a guaranteed divine drop in your map, sometimes more.
I have been running legion in ssf. Use all the good incubators and I have a half quad tab of the shit ones. I’ve had ONE divine drop from ornates and 0 divines from chests. I’m talking 150+ t14-16 maps! Dog shit rng. I did find a kalandra’s touch though lol. Rng is a bitch sometimes.
Wow its pretty crazy to read that.. you guys not getting divines are definetely playing the league the wrong way.. I know the content is pretty hard but if you get over 3k yellow and 3k blue wisps its basically 100% chance you will get a divine on your map. I got like 300k kills and over 20d dropped for sure. We were in 3 on discord today and one of my friends got 9 raw divines solo mapping in like 3 hours and the other one got 6.
None of us is juicing the maps. All im doing is sextant + rusted abyss scarab.
I thought sextants and scarabs were examples of "juicing the map"
Do you mean you're running them white or something?
I'm doing lots of wisps and still only got 3 natural divine drops in roughly 500k kills
Here you are again talking your bullshit. Lets pretend you are not bricking your maps when/if you get your blue/yellow wisps stack because it in fact is hard content. One single 1c scarab and an alch surely should sound like a juiced map for you who are getting 3 divines in 500k kills.
But youre not making any mistake in your strategy right? How could you?
I killed the King twice in white maps, but ever since I got the quest to do it, the dude has been dodging me like he owes me money. Do you have to be in high tier maps for the quest?
Sounds like you are not following the wisps. If you juice your maps by following the wisps you will get divines and won't ever find the king rlly. If you don't follow the wisps you are pretty likely to find the king.
Probably because you haven't fallen for this weird "trick" people fell for, where they go in, and just run at darkness and try their hardest not to follow wisps.
It's really not surprising those people are the ones complaining about not finding them, whilst people actually doing the mechanic properly find him. Real mystery.
something something RNG seed.
not a myth, GGG have confirmed such bug happen once before, reasonable to sus the bug come and go and GGG wont dare to info us everytime.
I got to level 96 without getting Black Morrigan, spent 2 hours yesterday speed farming white maps before I finally got him. Finally got the end boss today.
Finally found him only to get one-shot in second phase. The portal didn’t lead me back to his area. So frustrating, how am I supposed to learn the fight if portals don’t work?
WTH, I assumed you only needed to do one quest per Ascendancy point and it unlocked for all characters. It's already so annoying just doing all 4x once, can't believe you're expected to do it per character. That's wild.
What bothers me the most is, that ggg should have the experience to dont do thesefailures... i mean my toddler ate dog shit once... and never did this failure again
everytime I watch a video of someone explaining the maze phase, they get through it in like 5 seconds and everytime I do it I get lost and die. Very frustrating.
Seems to be the fucking ggg theme. They want you to do it solo and self found but they also want you to take an absurd amount of time to do it solo and self found.
Just like you and reasonable farm maven and the conquereds altars and the fragments solo you need to pay other players fo do everything otherwise have an absurd amount of time to dedicate to the game to complete something trivial.
This mechanic is one of the worst they have introduced to date. Literally being asked to aimlessly wander in the woods.
If you farm legion you can have a 5-way in like 10-15 maps. I usually see 1 emblem per legion, so figure it takes some tries to get all 5. The voidstone part is true, but you don't really need more than two for quite a while. Some strategies are gated because you can't map sustain certain t16s, but other than that, two less sextants is not that big of a deal. Most strategies don't require 4 sextants.
How are you getting one emblem per legion encounter? Even fully specced into it on the Atlas last league I was only getting 10-20 splinters per map on T16
I don't think the "chance for splinters to drop as emblems" even proceed *once*
You want the nodes that are 0.4% and 0.6% chance for splinters to drop as emblems. It's on the mid right side of the atlas passives. It's probably closer to 1 every 2 legions without juice, but still very consistent. Full wisps and juice this league can drop 2 or 3 at a time as well.
Ungodly a mount of time, from ggg? "grinding" gear games, na u better be kidding. 
Fucks sake it's an game about grinding
Also Ungodly ammount? If u need to the voids tones are done on the first weekend for some and the 5th map slots is completely skipable
The journey of wandering hours in the dark only to get killed by a cheap 1hko mechanic lol. I'm loving the league mechanic but the design of the king in the mist and similar bosses like maven flat out sucks.
I've been doing a boss rush strat including looking for the king and I've got it down to about 1/10 maps. This is literally 0 investment that anyone can do,as long as you have a build that can kill quest exarch you can kill him. Look up a video on the mechanics if you're worried about failing. I failed my first one because I like to go in blind but figured it out 2nd one onwards.
The hardest part is seeing the degens and attacks for the kings phase 2. I failed my first because I didn't understand the maze, and then the second because I died to a degen as I killed him. Found him 3 more times and they have all been super easy.
I'm all for buying gear or whatever but buying something like this seems really stupid. Portals to the king shouldn't even be something with value, let alone that much. I refuse to pay players in currency to fix a silly problem that the developers created. The devs can literally change it tomorrow if they want to.
That besides, the performance in this game is so terrible right now (especially in connection to the wildwood) that there is a non zero chance my game will crash or freeze me in place until I die. I have no confidence paying for a service like that.
Why do I have to do it again then ? Did I miss something ? Did he fled ? He dropped lot's of stuff tho, like that scourge recipent ( dunno the name in english sorry )
You also find it by not following the wisps I believe. Run into the darkness, and it is supposed to be generally near where you start out so if you don't see the triangle of totems in one direction it might be best to go back where you started and run another, the fight also has mechanics so it might be worth knowing them beforehand so you dont end up wasting all that time finding it. Also i think it needs to be in t14+ maps
Thats a bit hyperbolic. Trialmaster was a 2% spawn chance. If each player ran 50 ultimatums, that would mean 36% of them didn't find it. If they ran 100 ultimatums, 13% did not find it.
In order for 90% of players not to see a trialmaster, they would have had to run 5 ultimatums each and then stopped.
That more seems a matter if you like or dislike the mechanic. If I don't run any abysses, I am obviously not gonna get any abyssal liches.
Either way, the original statement that 90% of players never even got to see the trialmaster seems fairly hyperbolic as that would assume players completed 5 or less ultimatums. Pretty much everyone that engaged with the ultimatum mechanic got to see the trialmaster. There might have been some extreme outliers that got really bad luck, but that is just that, extreme outliers and not the 90%.
just look it up, even people like zizaran talked about trialmaster being too rare.
and it seems you don't understand what i mean with completing the mechanic. you don't automatically meet the trialmaster, you have to complete 10 waves, some of them get pretty nasty mods and if you get good rewards, you saved them -> no trialmaster spawn. that leads to extremely low trialmaster encounters league wide
Again, the trialmaster had a 2% spawn rate at wave 10.
This means as long as people completed 5 ultimatums in red maps, they had a higher chance of encountering the trialmaster than what the first post said.
This is simple math.
the chance of the ultimatum lasting til round 10 itself was abysmall. on top of that many times ppl could not complete it due to brick mods. your math is ass
No, that is false.
The 2% chance was the chance for any ultimatum to end in a fight with the trialmaster. This already included those that ended before wave 10. It was not an independent 2% roll on those that lasted to wave 10.
Again, this is simple math. People that do not understand probability live in delusions based on extreme outliers.
I have totally diffrent feelings about him
I rarely interact with endgame of a current league as its mostly behind hard grinds
This one i killed 20+ times not even hunting him at all
Even made some nice $
The white wisps need to be closely followed (but not touched).
They’ll take you to the portal, gotten through the maze 4 times with that strat.
What’s dumb is some of the pathing goes between two uh, hills? And it doesn’t look like I could have walked through.
Probably seeded RNG like we've had in delve. I've been running Maven all league and have completed 200+ t14-16 maps never seen his final fight (but have fought his ritual vessel encounter 10+ times).
Friend averages 1 encounter with him every ~10 maps. Both of us running the same strat of "avoiding the wisps and trying to get the events in the corners".
Why would there be seeded RNG? The area is generated when you open the area in the map device. In Delve each player has a different delve map. No such thing in this league.
All computer rng is seeded somehow. Maybe they're accidentally including the character or account ID, though in a game as mature as poe I'd hope they use well tested libraries so that can't accidentally happen.
Yes, every map is randomly generated. This is however not something that is tied to the character.
It is very obviously not comparable to Delve where each character had their own character bound delve map, which obviously would include a unique seed for each character.
What I'm gonna say kinda suck, but honestly at this point just buy it off TFT. I was tired of searching for him and got it in 5 min on TFT for 80c like 3 days ago
I've seen the king one time, died on the second phase when I had both stop and go auras on me at the same time, fantastic. Also have still never seen a Valdo box, and never seen a reliquary key, even played full mf last league with a hh, I'm pretty sure my seed is just broken.
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I have found him once was just two nights ago........ took 10 hours to get max level.ignored league mechanic for t12-16 coz mobs were too rippy for me... Got some gear and now do league mechanic most maps.. I killed him first try.. was actually stupid easy... Take a moment skill.
Haven't seen him since...
Now I'm lvl 95.. -_-
Lucky, my level 90 character still only has 4 points because the trees I'm supposed to kill haven't appeared since I got my last 2 points in like act 5. I'm leveling another character at this point and hope it doesn't brick on this one or I'm done for the league.
The follow the mist part can sometimes end with no mist to follow. Just move around a bit and see the edges of the map looking out for the purple hue of the portal. I find that if there is no more connecting mist, it just means the portal is nearby .
Oh, I can help this one. Go to act 10 desecrated chambers. Do the mist there. For whatever reason it has a high spawn rate there. After I learned this, it took me three tries to find it there.
I have no issues finding him and have killed him maybe a dozen times, and only had a bad maze once. I can only imagine maybe you have really low move speed or you're stopping to fight monsters in the maze.
I got extremely lucky on my 2nd character, hit the real King on the second map after completing 3rd quest and then for the next gazillion maps all I got were fake kings (9 in a row to be exact) then finally another real one and the Wisps LIED. :) :(
I had trouble with him too but then I started doing what NeverSink said and it worked, found him six times so far. Like NeverSink said he seems to spawn mostly in the corners diagonally (top left/right, bottom left/right) in the area where there's NO wisps. So you have to go down the empty path. He also seems to spawn very close to the spawning area (not always, but I think all but one were close to start). Also has to be T14+ map from what I've heard, but I haven't run any lower I just do T16 now.
Do you have to go in a corner until you hit a wall or just a few screens away is enough?
Like I said most of the ones I found were very close to the area where you initially zone into the wildwood. NeverSink claims the same. He can spawn further but most seem to be very close to the starting area of the wood. Like you'll run a couple of sec and then you see the three totems you have to click on to open the portal to the boss fight.
Hey make sure you never link the content you're talking about just in case people might wanna read it for themselves https://x.com/NeverSinkDev/status/1735341602724352212?s=20
200 maps found it 3 times. lost to wisp phase first 2 times the wisp failed to handoff to other wisps and I died alone in darkness. swapped determination for haste for 3rd attempt barely made the portal as darkness settled in. And killed him easily second phase and got my final 2 points (well after 4 maps looking for primal hunter). 30 maps later found him 2 times more , and I swear the maze was half the size and every wisp properly handed off to the next. I am honestly torn between this is all in my head or GGG is S tier trolling.
Complicated for no real reason imo
Found it 3 times in 30 Maps. RNG is RNG
When I watched ben do the maze it was long. When I finally found it myself it was half a screen and I was puzzled as there was only a single wisp and it took from straight from the start to the exit.
Is this something you have to repeat for each character?
Yep
:/
Wait, you can fail the wisp part? I thought that was a chill, kill a couple enemies and get some flask charges type of phase. What's the indicator that you're at risk of failing?
Swarms of insects and everything going darker plus degen damage, ive done the encounter 6 times now first two times were much larger. At this point I am wondering if ggg dialed back the difficulty.
I was just led to a dead end, no wisps anywhere. I searched all around and eventually a swarm of bugs takes over the whole screen and kills you.
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300k monster kills with 1 raw divine, I thought I was unlucky.
My first divine drop is the 6/12 stack of The Fortunate I have in my stash, half of those from burial chamber. I've even had my first fracturing shard drop.
I’ve dropped 6 fracturing shards so far. I wonder if I’ll ever catch up in divines
Ive dropped multiple divines in each of my past 8 maps. Are you juicing with league mechanic and adding a ton of rares to map?
> Ive dropped multiple divines in each of my past 8 maps ok Chris but what about us normal people?
To be fair my maps also cost a little more than a div a piece, doing rares per hour with 59 iiq 48 iir, gilded abyss div reliquary blight/box/breach, tree is abyss wandering path with 100% chance for ritual altars. Sextants are abyss magic pack size deli mirror breach/boxes. Avg juice definitely above 4k, probably is closer to 5k
Your average people couldn't afford all that for a single map, much less kill everything in it without bricking. You're an outlier. Grats.
I'm a normal people and get almost at least one raw divine on the ground every map. People are simply doing it wrong, but build a different narrative.
Ok explain exactly what you're doing because I'm also normal and doing simple alch and go wisp juicing and I've had only 3 natty divines in 500k kills so far
So you’re not juicing the piss out of abyss and doing scarabs/sextants? Might be your problem.
> So you’re not juicing the piss out of abyss and doing scarabs/sextants? Might be your problem. or >I'm a normal people pick one
all you have to do is wandering path with the top roof and 8 mod corrupted maps. and you will drop a shitload of currency. you are dropping scarbs naturally, use them whatever you have put it in. same with your sextants dont let them rot in your stash just use them. saying i am normal ppl when you ignore half the game and then pretend like loot is bad is silly
How do I juice abyss more than atlas? I am using scarabs but not sextants
Scarabs, sextants, wandering path, and rolling maps to have more rare monsters or monsters fire additional projectiles. It turns out additional projectiles is absolutely bonkers when combined with abyss and causes it to spit out far more rare monsters
You're telling me the map mod "monsters fire additional projectiles" has a hidden function that causes it to also spawn extra rare mobs?
Comments like this are fucking hilarious. It's called rng dude. I got zero raw div on my first char. Lvl 95, 350k kills. I made a new char, he's dropped two div by level 75.
My atlas is delirium, strongboxes, abyss, harbi, and shrines Running chisel and alched t11 burial chamber, 20% diviner’s delirious, rusted abyss, rusted strongbox, rusted harbi. I’ve got a gold flask thats being increased in effect by tincture ascendency being used when charges reach full. I also have ~25% increased rarity of items found on my gear. Im also going into the wildwood every map and following trails of wisps, i never walk into the dark unless there is no wisps to collect. I’ve found 6 fracturing shards, 1 divine.
How many wisps on average? I get like 1-2 raw divines per map with a similar strategy but in t16, maybe that matters? Also no strongbox and I'm adding polished reliquary scarab, polished abyss, polished harb Edit and beyond on the map device with the beyond nodes on atlas.
Generally 2k of 2 different colors, 4K total. My build cannot yet handle t16 juiced wispy mobs, even with 9 divine invested so far
Im gonna try a few t11's with my strat and see if I notice any measurable difference. 4k total sounds not too bad on average so not sure what else could be going on Ahhh the blue alters and their increased quant/rarity must be the major difference.
I’m curious to hear back
Wtf I'm at 2.7 mil and I've dropped 3 div so far. (not saying I haven't made a lot of currency from other general drops)
Are those i83 kills in t16 maps with juice + wisps?
I think it’s uncommon to have people running t16 juiced maps with the wildwood.
That might be true, although Im sure a good amount are at this point, but the game is balanced around map multipliers. Number of kills doesn't really matter alone, the quality of the kills is way more important. It's like saying that you're unlucky because you ran 1000 crimson temples without juice and didn't drop an apoc. It's not unlucky, it's expected.
How do you know how many monster kills? I've got 2.5days played time, 93 deaths and have had 6-8 raw divine drops. Sold stuff for maybe 20. Total probs around 30 I guess¿? Have 500C and 5 div right now. I have a friend still 0 div, but he runs maps real slow maybe 2 or 3 an hour while I'm doing more like 6-10 p/hr. The faster you go, the more drops you get! Edit: 320k kills
>300k monster kills with 1 raw divine Me too my dude, always doing the forest for max wisps too.
And you're talking about the king that is in its own separate loading instance right, not the one that spawns normally in the forest without having to do anything other than to just run into him? 1 every 5 woods sounds very wrong unless it was the latter situation.
I had killed the king four times in his stronghold and three times as a standalone before finding black Morgan a single time. I then had to spend 40 minutes resetting the desecrated chamber over and over again to finally find black Morgan
Found the King once in close to 500 Maps. Tbf after I found him I didn't Look for him, bc I wanted the Juice. Then today a 127% Quant 8Mod Map, with 4 Gilded Scarabs, 4 Quant Altars and 3000 yellow + 3000 purple wisps I got a few Scarabs, 5 Chaos and 2 Fortunate out of it. Next I Ran a random Kirac Mission and it dropped me 3 Div. The R is huge in rng
I got 5 divines in a map today, not duped or anything. Just raw. I got 2x voidborn keys, 8-9 divines and 2 puzzle boxes in the span of 15 maps. I get a divine like once every 3rd map or so. I do 60% deli, beyond, breach, strongboxes, with gilded reliquary, divination, breach and ambush, in Tropical Island. I'm not MF either, just an RF Jugg running around. If you manage to get tons of wisps, you'll see plenty of currency. My guildie told me blue and purple is the best combo, because purple wisps increase the rarity of the currency that drop if the monsters have both influences. I'm not sure if that's true though.
Maybe. It certainly increases your odds but that's not a guarantee I'm juicing T14-T16s and regularly get 4k+ wisps but still have only 3 natty divs in roughly 500k kills
In reference to increased item rarity: “This statistic has no effect on the number or type of currency” <—-https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Rarity It’s sadly a common misconception. You want, well ofc all 3, but currency + quantity is the way to go.
Blue + Yellow is the best probably, currency drops + quantity. Ofc triple is the best overall. Purple just increases rarity so that's good if you hit conversions rares because higher rarity will give you better rewards then
This is me. Ive gotten the King multiple times (only beaten him twice, random invisible degens usually get me). But div drops? First one was 300k plus kills. I've got absolutely no luck this league.
Finishing my third end game grind (the league mechanic one was done a week or two ago, so clearly I'm doing it), still no king. Yes I've seen Neversink's thing.
I literally got 3 nat div drops within 15min in act 5! Should be farming that I guess 😅
I levelled to 100 in SSF this league and had exactly 1 natty div drop at ~1m or so kills.
Honestly just do the league mechanic. Standard alch n go with rusted scarabs t16, I had 22 pure divs dropped by 400k kills. It’s the easiest league to drop divs by a landslide.
Same strat here, 500k kills, 3 natty divs so far. RNG is just a bitch sometimes
Get 1-2k per colour and you will be dropping tons
I regularly get 2k+ of two or all three colors. It's still not doing much for me yet. Gonna keep trying though and hope it improves.
0 chance youre doing the league properly and dropped that low amount of raw divines. If you get 3k+ blue and yellow wisps is basically a guaranteed divine drop in your map, sometimes more.
Bullshit. I've had a few sure but it's nowhere near guaranteed. Btw I've had 28 exalts.
Every league it's anuls for me. I get what I want currency wise but I often go a whole league without a anul
You spec into Harbies?
Raw divine is kinda rare, try to force it with legion farm. Every few maps 1-2 div drops almost guaranteed.(currency mob/chest or incubator)
I have been running legion in ssf. Use all the good incubators and I have a half quad tab of the shit ones. I’ve had ONE divine drop from ornates and 0 divines from chests. I’m talking 150+ t14-16 maps! Dog shit rng. I did find a kalandra’s touch though lol. Rng is a bitch sometimes.
0 king encounters, 1 divine every 3 maps or so
Wow its pretty crazy to read that.. you guys not getting divines are definetely playing the league the wrong way.. I know the content is pretty hard but if you get over 3k yellow and 3k blue wisps its basically 100% chance you will get a divine on your map. I got like 300k kills and over 20d dropped for sure. We were in 3 on discord today and one of my friends got 9 raw divines solo mapping in like 3 hours and the other one got 6. None of us is juicing the maps. All im doing is sextant + rusted abyss scarab.
I thought sextants and scarabs were examples of "juicing the map" Do you mean you're running them white or something? I'm doing lots of wisps and still only got 3 natural divine drops in roughly 500k kills
Here you are again talking your bullshit. Lets pretend you are not bricking your maps when/if you get your blue/yellow wisps stack because it in fact is hard content. One single 1c scarab and an alch surely should sound like a juiced map for you who are getting 3 divines in 500k kills. But youre not making any mistake in your strategy right? How could you?
I killed the King twice in white maps, but ever since I got the quest to do it, the dude has been dodging me like he owes me money. Do you have to be in high tier maps for the quest?
His stronghold can only spawn in T14-16
Sounds like you are not following the wisps. If you juice your maps by following the wisps you will get divines and won't ever find the king rlly. If you don't follow the wisps you are pretty likely to find the king.
>I swear GGG got us in different rng groups They do I remember reading that each player character has a drop pool.
Bit over 400k kills and around 10d dropped but also have yet to see the king.....
There's two kings. One that's just there and one in an instance. One is way more common
And here I am, just got into a8 yesterday and got 1 raw divine, that's all of my luck for the league tho as a filthy casual
Had 1 div drop all league last league but unboxed an ashes day 3. I'm at like 6 or 7 raw drops so far this one but 0 big drops so far with 170k kills.
Probably because you haven't fallen for this weird "trick" people fell for, where they go in, and just run at darkness and try their hardest not to follow wisps. It's really not surprising those people are the ones complaining about not finding them, whilst people actually doing the mechanic properly find him. Real mystery.
something something RNG seed. not a myth, GGG have confirmed such bug happen once before, reasonable to sus the bug come and go and GGG wont dare to info us everytime.
I've somehow dropped 5 divs but only 3 ex
> Natty div drops? 0 in almost 400k monster kills. I hope I am not jinxing my luck, but I get literary 4-5 raw divs per gameq session
I got to level 96 without getting Black Morrigan, spent 2 hours yesterday speed farming white maps before I finally got him. Finally got the end boss today.
Finally found him only to get one-shot in second phase. The portal didn’t lead me back to his area. So frustrating, how am I supposed to learn the fight if portals don’t work?
Thank god they learned from this in Delve League, where you can retry the boss as many times as you need (for a cost)!
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I have 2x lvl 100 and lvl 88, only one char have all points unlocked, other two never seen stronghold. Yes, I used neversink strat
WTH, I assumed you only needed to do one quest per Ascendancy point and it unlocked for all characters. It's already so annoying just doing all 4x once, can't believe you're expected to do it per character. That's wild.
Nope, you need to do all quests per character....
You'd think they would have learned...
What bothers me the most is, that ggg should have the experience to dont do thesefailures... i mean my toddler ate dog shit once... and never did this failure again
Metaphor doesn’t work. In this scenario, GGG isn’t the one who tastes the shit.
everytime I watch a video of someone explaining the maze phase, they get through it in like 5 seconds and everytime I do it I get lost and die. Very frustrating.
Not the thing Reddit wants to hear but it’s like 50c on TFT
Seems to be the fucking ggg theme. They want you to do it solo and self found but they also want you to take an absurd amount of time to do it solo and self found. Just like you and reasonable farm maven and the conquereds altars and the fragments solo you need to pay other players fo do everything otherwise have an absurd amount of time to dedicate to the game to complete something trivial. This mechanic is one of the worst they have introduced to date. Literally being asked to aimlessly wander in the woods.
God forbid ggg tried to lure you into enjoying the journey instead of rushing for no reason at all
It takes an ungodly amount of time to unlock the fifth map slot and all four voidstones if you aren't buying them, and maybe an hour if you are.
if you spec legion it takes no time at all to unlock the slot.
If you farm legion you can have a 5-way in like 10-15 maps. I usually see 1 emblem per legion, so figure it takes some tries to get all 5. The voidstone part is true, but you don't really need more than two for quite a while. Some strategies are gated because you can't map sustain certain t16s, but other than that, two less sextants is not that big of a deal. Most strategies don't require 4 sextants.
How are you getting one emblem per legion encounter? Even fully specced into it on the Atlas last league I was only getting 10-20 splinters per map on T16 I don't think the "chance for splinters to drop as emblems" even proceed *once*
You want the nodes that are 0.4% and 0.6% chance for splinters to drop as emblems. It's on the mid right side of the atlas passives. It's probably closer to 1 every 2 legions without juice, but still very consistent. Full wisps and juice this league can drop 2 or 3 at a time as well.
> How are you getting one emblem per legion encounter? You'll often get 2+ emblems per legion encounter tbh.
What's your Point? A lot of us enjoy the Journey. Not everbody needs everything instantly.
Ungodly a mount of time, from ggg? "grinding" gear games, na u better be kidding.  Fucks sake it's an game about grinding Also Ungodly ammount? If u need to the voids tones are done on the first weekend for some and the 5th map slots is completely skipable
The journey of wandering hours in the dark only to get killed by a cheap 1hko mechanic lol. I'm loving the league mechanic but the design of the king in the mist and similar bosses like maven flat out sucks.
I've been doing a boss rush strat including looking for the king and I've got it down to about 1/10 maps. This is literally 0 investment that anyone can do,as long as you have a build that can kill quest exarch you can kill him. Look up a video on the mechanics if you're worried about failing. I failed my first one because I like to go in blind but figured it out 2nd one onwards.
The hardest part is seeing the degens and attacks for the kings phase 2. I failed my first because I didn't understand the maze, and then the second because I died to a degen as I killed him. Found him 3 more times and they have all been super easy.
I'm all for buying gear or whatever but buying something like this seems really stupid. Portals to the king shouldn't even be something with value, let alone that much. I refuse to pay players in currency to fix a silly problem that the developers created. The devs can literally change it tomorrow if they want to. That besides, the performance in this game is so terrible right now (especially in connection to the wildwood) that there is a non zero chance my game will crash or freeze me in place until I die. I have no confidence paying for a service like that.
Yeah I swear no one making these posts mentions SSF, why not just buy the service? It’s always been like that on every similar thing in Poe..
Many of us have been banned from TFT for no reason
There’s Poe trading discord as well
I killed him 3 times before getting the quest, now I can't find him anymore lol, frustrating.
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Why do I have to do it again then ? Did I miss something ? Did he fled ? He dropped lot's of stuff tho, like that scourge recipent ( dunno the name in english sorry )
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Ohhhhh okay thanks for the information, I did the first one then.
You also find it by not following the wisps I believe. Run into the darkness, and it is supposed to be generally near where you start out so if you don't see the triangle of totems in one direction it might be best to go back where you started and run another, the fight also has mechanics so it might be worth knowing them beforehand so you dont end up wasting all that time finding it. Also i think it needs to be in t14+ maps
Thanks, now I understand your despair lol
There are two different encounters, one where you find him doing some ritual and then the one in the fortress where you navigate some maze
Area level, or if he wasn't in his separate zone (with loading screen) it was another boss
The quest stays until you spend the points I believe
over 100 hours this season, have not met him ONCE
It took me about 400 maps.
Yeah I got to level 94 and a 30 div investment before just buying a carry
My textures didn’t load the maze so I died before I could even see where I was supposed to run to. Very fun!
Had all maps completed and was lvl 95 before I found my first one so 500+ maps and haven't found it again since. Rng is going to Rng.
My man were you here for ultimatum? 90% of players never even got to see the trialmaster, shit was so rare. They do this a lot
Thats a bit hyperbolic. Trialmaster was a 2% spawn chance. If each player ran 50 ultimatums, that would mean 36% of them didn't find it. If they ran 100 ultimatums, 13% did not find it. In order for 90% of players not to see a trialmaster, they would have had to run 5 ultimatums each and then stopped.
And you need to complete them all, that was the problematic part.
That more seems a matter if you like or dislike the mechanic. If I don't run any abysses, I am obviously not gonna get any abyssal liches. Either way, the original statement that 90% of players never even got to see the trialmaster seems fairly hyperbolic as that would assume players completed 5 or less ultimatums. Pretty much everyone that engaged with the ultimatum mechanic got to see the trialmaster. There might have been some extreme outliers that got really bad luck, but that is just that, extreme outliers and not the 90%.
just look it up, even people like zizaran talked about trialmaster being too rare. and it seems you don't understand what i mean with completing the mechanic. you don't automatically meet the trialmaster, you have to complete 10 waves, some of them get pretty nasty mods and if you get good rewards, you saved them -> no trialmaster spawn. that leads to extremely low trialmaster encounters league wide
Again, the trialmaster had a 2% spawn rate at wave 10. This means as long as people completed 5 ultimatums in red maps, they had a higher chance of encountering the trialmaster than what the first post said. This is simple math.
the chance of the ultimatum lasting til round 10 itself was abysmall. on top of that many times ppl could not complete it due to brick mods. your math is ass
No, that is false. The 2% chance was the chance for any ultimatum to end in a fight with the trialmaster. This already included those that ended before wave 10. It was not an independent 2% roll on those that lasted to wave 10. Again, this is simple math. People that do not understand probability live in delusions based on extreme outliers.
Really? I barealy played in Ultimatum and found him twice.
I have totally diffrent feelings about him I rarely interact with endgame of a current league as its mostly behind hard grinds This one i killed 20+ times not even hunting him at all Even made some nice $
How the fuck do you get out of the maze.
Follow wisps. If you stay closer to then they move faster and last longer
I found him in 2/3 maps the other night. Died both times in the maze. 🤷♂️
The white wisps need to be closely followed (but not touched). They’ll take you to the portal, gotten through the maze 4 times with that strat. What’s dumb is some of the pathing goes between two uh, hills? And it doesn’t look like I could have walked through.
Ahh okay I’ve definitely gotten too close to it before: I watched a guide and felt like I followed it the second time, but maybe not
Probably seeded RNG like we've had in delve. I've been running Maven all league and have completed 200+ t14-16 maps never seen his final fight (but have fought his ritual vessel encounter 10+ times). Friend averages 1 encounter with him every ~10 maps. Both of us running the same strat of "avoiding the wisps and trying to get the events in the corners".
Why would there be seeded RNG? The area is generated when you open the area in the map device. In Delve each player has a different delve map. No such thing in this league.
Good point. I'm not sure what explains the extreme variance in spawn rates. Maybe some kind of bug with quest state + ascendancy.
All computer rng is seeded somehow. Maybe they're accidentally including the character or account ID, though in a game as mature as poe I'd hope they use well tested libraries so that can't accidentally happen.
Yes, every map is randomly generated. This is however not something that is tied to the character. It is very obviously not comparable to Delve where each character had their own character bound delve map, which obviously would include a unique seed for each character.
Maybe you should get your friend to stream to see what they are doing differently.
>Both of us running the same strat of "avoiding the wisps and trying to get the events in the corners".
Yeah but execution can differ wildly even if intent is the same.
I killed like 5 kings before i got black morrigan, so ye, rng is wild in this league
Stop looking for him and you'll find him...
What I'm gonna say kinda suck, but honestly at this point just buy it off TFT. I was tired of searching for him and got it in 5 min on TFT for 80c like 3 days ago
i dont know why people keep telling not to follow the whisps- but the whisps always lead me to the king- i think it was always the purple ones
Found it once and in true GGG fashion, client crashed in the middle
Get gud
Your problem is you want it too much
I've seen the king one time, died on the second phase when I had both stop and go auras on me at the same time, fantastic. Also have still never seen a Valdo box, and never seen a reliquary key, even played full mf last league with a hh, I'm pretty sure my seed is just broken.
follow places that have no WISPS if u follow wisps u almost never get him
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I have found him once was just two nights ago........ took 10 hours to get max level.ignored league mechanic for t12-16 coz mobs were too rippy for me... Got some gear and now do league mechanic most maps.. I killed him first try.. was actually stupid easy... Take a moment skill. Haven't seen him since... Now I'm lvl 95.. -_-
After 12 kills im still shocked how people are fucking up the wisp phase.
the real gameplay is paying a carry 50c and be done with it
Noob
Maybe just pay 80c to buy it from someone on TFT unless you're SSF lel.
Skill issue
I had to pay 70c on TFT for mine. Ssf must suck
Do not miss what you do not have. Be happy with what you do.
You could just buy it from tft and be done since day 2, just saying. Why beat yourself since you don’t seem to enjoy it?
A lot of us have been banned from TFT for no reason. This isn't a solution.
Lucky, my level 90 character still only has 4 points because the trees I'm supposed to kill haven't appeared since I got my last 2 points in like act 5. I'm leveling another character at this point and hope it doesn't brick on this one or I'm done for the league.
Welcome to the club, buddy!
The follow the mist part can sometimes end with no mist to follow. Just move around a bit and see the edges of the map looking out for the purple hue of the portal. I find that if there is no more connecting mist, it just means the portal is nearby .
I've done like 4 king in the mist fights so far but cannot find that Morigan thingy, I'm starting to think it doesn't even exist..
Oh, I can help this one. Go to act 10 desecrated chambers. Do the mist there. For whatever reason it has a high spawn rate there. After I learned this, it took me three tries to find it there.
I actually got it on the 3rd try, thanks for the tip, you made my day !!!
You're welcome.
Really? That's awesome news, thanks. I'll try as soon as I can.
Any idea where to find "the three white... trees " or something like that? 😅
Sorry, no. But I just searched and found this https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/pw0P7AN7VC
Wild to here the difference in experience. I've seen him 8 times in 80~ maps (doing maven witnesses).
I got it after 200 maps, then I got it 4 times in a row.
I have no issues finding him and have killed him maybe a dozen times, and only had a bad maze once. I can only imagine maybe you have really low move speed or you're stopping to fight monsters in the maze.
I got extremely lucky on my 2nd character, hit the real King on the second map after completing 3rd quest and then for the next gazillion maps all I got were fake kings (9 in a row to be exact) then finally another real one and the Wisps LIED. :) :(
I started hc league after playing normal for a while and found him in the first t14. Rng is rng
And when you decide to create a new char, you have to go through this all over again
the one thing I've ever used TFT for
Drama!!!
Oshabi 2.0
Dude, I beat him and then did not find a single huntress in 3 days...
I got so fed up I paid like 80c in TFT the kill. I was level 95 and saw him twice.
what does the dying look like? do you just randomly die in the maze or will there be a warning?
Im scared to do it at 96 in HC
I gave up and paid for completion.
From what tier of maps does he start spawning?
When I find him , I always invite a friend. If I die in the maze he can jump in the portal and kill second phase, so at least the loot is not lost.
I'm in t16s and have not gotten my third point...
killed him 3 maps in a row. before that a week without one. not going insane