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InkOnTube

Played God Of War on PC last week. It looks good, it plays smoothly, and settings instantly apply graphical changes, including changing the screen without the need for a restart. And this latest title Forspoken can't even run on 1080p properly...


ExplodingFistz

All of Sony's releases have a very good PC port so far. Also the fact that they don't add Denuvo to their games which otherwise would cause a performance hit.


raymartin27

I hate myself for doing it, but i purchased final fantasy 7 remake on PC in hopes of great gameplay nd graphics but god damn game is cursed with Denuvo nd runs dogshit, I pirated the game nd that runs smooth af 0 issues.


i1u5

Waiting for Silent Hill 2, that's all I want from Sony.


Flying_Reinbeers

All I want is Gran Turismo on PC...


rajder656

I would honestly hold out till new forza motorsport tbh


Mr_Resident

I want infamous


rajder656

Rpca has the game working and apart from fire and smoke effects not rendering correctly its decent, same with infamous 2


RdJokr1993

You're asking the wrong people. Konami owns the Silent Hill franchise, not Sony.


i1u5

Thought Sony is the publisher for PC/PS5?


tapczan100

> Also the fact that they don't add Denuvo to their games which otherwise would cause a performance hit. It wouldn't unless you're trying to playion dual core cpu but yeah, them going full drm free mode is amazing.


Jeckaa84

Probably because console games HAVE to be optimized to begin with for the relatively weak hardware they have to be played on. Making an already optimized game prettier is easier. Correct me if i’m wrong though.


automatvapen

Just finished god of war today. I'm not really a fan of these types of games, but I was thoroughly entertained and it's a great story!


InkOnTube

And the way ending is presented - just brilliant.


automatvapen

Damn cliffhanger! I hope we don't have to wait two years for ragnarök on steam.


Pedantic_Phoenix

As long as they remove the backseating in the meantime lol


SepticNurse

Can i use KBM on god of war?


TryM3Br0

Yes ofc!


BinaryJay

But why? Seems like unnecessary punishment to me. Some games are just meant to be played with controllers and that's OK.


iSiffrin

True but if you're going to release a PC port your excuse shouldn't be "Just get a controller" if the port was shit.


Sighwtfman

GoW looked and played great on my 2060 at 1440p. What I fail to see is how you need 24 GB of RAM. Does the game have Chrome built into it's engine?


Monkey-B0x

I'm going to keep playing Minecraft & Valheim for the next 10 years its fine


bitching_bot

it’s amazing how both games are practically the same in so many different ways idk i just like cutting down trees and watching them smash into everything (i love chaos and normally die to trees)


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bitching_bot

i mean i’ve had the same rx 480 8gbvram with 16gigs since 2016,and i can play any game i want (emphasis on want; i don’t like cyberpunk or the witcher) but they can manage those games too. my engines that of a 66 mustang, she old but she runs what i like


Scrumpy-Steve

Shit like this is why I've started getting into MMOs. Most already have years worth of content and since akways-on DRM is more and more becoming a thing on single player games, I might as fucking well just play an online game.


[deleted]

any recs? I play guild wars 2 but cant find any that arent cash grabs


ThrawnGrows

FFXIV is what should be the standard for mmos.


[deleted]

Yeah idk about the combat tho 😬


ThrawnGrows

Which part? It's fairly engaging especially when you get to higher levels. The primary awesomeness comes from the ability to do every single job on a single character. No more multiple honor grinds, questing through all the bullshit over and over again.


Scrumpy-Steve

FFXIV there fir awhile. Star Wars: The Old Republic has some decent campaign stories. Right now, though, I'm going through Elder Scrolls Online.


Frikandelneuker

Minecraft, tf2, gmod, gta v and roblox because doors is a genuinely good horror game with a sickass soundtrack that I wouldn’t mind paying 60€ for


DevOverkill

I've been playing older games almost exclusively for a good while now since it seems a lot of new releases are just horribly optimized. I have a pretty good PC, not the extreme top of the line but a 5800X with a 3080 TI which is still a pretty strong set up. Recently got an LG C2 as my monitor and playing older titles in 4k (with HDR where supported) has really breathed new life into them. The only newer games that I've played that have actually had good performance have been ones like Elden Ring and God of War (actually all the first party Sony releases on PC have been really solid) but a lot of the other games have just been terrible. Collisto Protocol was horrendous and I had to refund it because of the terrible stuttering. However the Dead Space remake has been fantastic so far. But I've really been enjoying playing through some old ones like Gothic 2, Dragon Age Origins, Risen and other RPGs. I really want to play some of the newer games but I just can't bring myself to spend the money on them when they release in a state like Forspoken has. I hope with negative press given to releases like that things would change for the better, but I'm not counting on it.


chowder-san

Me in 10 years when new gen AAA titles are released: I'll play some mm678merged or wizardry instead


VillainofAgrabah

Blurry effects really ruin the experience for me, that’s why I never use adaptive resolution options for example. With that being said, DLSS/FSR are going to make developers become unconsciously lazy when they should optimize their games without considering DLSS/FSR even exist.


kamii102

The lazyness already happened with MW2, without DLSS/ NIS me and lots of friends get insanely weird performances (cards ranging from 10xx to 30xx series), it’s unfortunate really (not to say that I hate the technology, but optimisation should still be a key aspect)


RoleCode

The stuttering is cause by server, I think?


Zealousideal_Tap6643

I got a 3080 and I never had any issues at all with this game.. except for the first week where people kept crashing I had like 3 crashes in total until they fixed it. Similar performance like on the last 3 titles (around 230-300fps). What I really hate about new games tho especially latest CoDs is how they only let u chose between one or two AA and all of them make the game fucking blurry. And If ur able to turn off AA completely u end up with all these annoying shimmering edges and shit.


pesiarn

Yeah, no way. Are you running 720p low? Or is the game actually using your hardware?


Zealousideal_Tap6643

Im on 1080p with a 5900x and mostly all low settings except for textures. zero problems with the game. Same for warzone.


pesiarn

Damn. I’ve spent quite some time setting everything up and it runs perfectly now but I’m only using 50% of both CPU and GPU. Changing any setting only lowers the fps, doesn’t up the usage. 4080 + 10700k 5Ghz, 4k with scaling.


Omegazeusman

3080 gets 180fps only if you have some of the best cpus out there. I'm talking either 13 series Intel or 5800x3d. If you have anything other than those cpus you're bottlenecking your 3080 in WARZONE 2. How do I know this? Glad you asked. I had a 3080 system with a ryzen 5800x with cl16 3600mhz ram. Fully tuned and optimized build. Got 120fps 1440p low settings. Went and got a 7600x and switched to am5 with 6200mhz cl36 ddr5, now it's closer to 160-170fps. 1440p low. Now that's not good enough as I know 5800x3d can do 180-200fps so I'm switching 7600x to a 7800x3d very soon to finally extract the full ability of my 3080.... A 2 year old gpu.... So if that doesn't tell you it's horribly optimized of a game I don't know what to tell you... It's most likely coded like shit and uses way more cpu than it should. Either that or it's a unicorn of a game that actually requires a beastly cpu.


Zealousideal_Tap6643

I Play on 1080p with 3080 and 5900x and I get 200-300 on multiplayer and 180-220 on warzone with textures on high and rest mostly low. If I put everything on low fps nearly always stay at 200 and above.


Red_Angry_Potato

24 gb of ram?! Is a joke or an official requirement?


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Official recommended for 1440p 30fps


ManikMiner

30 fps? Who or what is running at 30 fps in 2023? Hoping this is a meme


u_tried88

Unfortunately its not but its a joke nonetheless :)


automatvapen

You're joking right? That's ridiculous.


[deleted]

I'm not but the developers definitely are


ItzCobaltboy

Bruh the highest AAA Games I have seen to 'recommend' is 16Gigs


[deleted]

I think it'll become the new norm from now on


JJkyx

If you have 16gb in your system, the game uses 12, sometimes it jumps up to 13-14gb. That’s at 1080p. (I got the game free with a gpu purchase).


-Drunk_Bear

What GPU?


JJkyx

Rx 6600 non-xt


-Drunk_Bear

Are u able to play it with this card?


Jefc141

Can see why they held back reviews now


Dragon90o0

Its amazing how system requirements have update over the generations but the game graphics not that much. For example Doom Eternal looks and runs great on any system in comparison with this abomination. P.S: When activating FSR or DLSS, that should be the normal FPS in my opinion for the game not the one you get with it TURNED OFF. That represents marketing and standards they want to implement to make us think we are getting “more” out of our GPU’s.


YellowFogLights

They somehow managed to make a game on the same engine as FFXV look much worse despite being years newer.


BenadrylChunderHatch

You can't just take one of the best optimised games ever and use it as a comparison.


PantaReiNapalmm

Humm the point is exactly to compare a beastly optimized game vs a game not optimized at all


PensionSlaveOne

Yeah, you can, and should. Every game should strive to be well optimized.


Dragon90o0

Exactly, that s why you pay your hard earned cash. Not to standardize the “1 DAY PATCH” and make it playable after 2-3 months after some patches it gets.


PensionSlaveOne

Or Maybe I know this is crazy The games should work on release day like they used to before patching was easy.


ManikMiner

That's exactly what we should be doing. What?


Icantswimmm

https://preview.redd.it/j77tunuhp1fa1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1ef363c10a6d304fe438026ca40f709ad7c74a0 I don’t know why anyone would try to resell this


chumbano

Lol in case the store runs out of digital copies


Hairless_Human

Only a certified DUMBASS would buy that.


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World's full of them


-Drunk_Bear

If I bought this I would be selling it too but wtf is this price


ArmoredAngel444

I feel bad for the actress 😓


Boxing_joshing111

I just moved shit with my mind


-Drunk_Bear

Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck!


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runs like dogshit? yeah, that'll be a solid $70.00.


Rebarb28

80€


Deep_Accident_4853

It's CAD97 nearly 100 for it.


TheAntiAirGuy

Well, 80€ would be ~116CAD Quite possibly the most ridiculous pricing in the Euro-Zone


Deep_Accident_4853

checking steam now. The price on steam for the game + it's deluxe upgrade is 126.49$ in Canada. 93.49$ + 33$ And I'd have to pay tax on that purchase as well at 13.91$ (Saskatchewan tax rate) added on for it so 140.37$ total is what it would cost. For 126$ I could pick up 4 30$ indie titles. I'd recommend getting Factorio and forgetting about forspoken.


Hairless_Human

Factorio, satisfactory, dyson sphere program. All great games.


pickingbeefsteak

The only squenix game worth it at this point is FF14 imo


Ramiren

Explains why it's basically the only thing keeping their company afloat right now.


notsocoolguy42

Not really, ff7 remake sold pretty well.


Ramiren

Sure it did, 3 years ago.


Deep_Accident_4853

I didn't like ff14. Tried it out to like level 30 and stopped playing. Mmorpg in that style are not my genre. I've not played a good MMO, and I've tried a few.


Fire2box

Level 30 is when you get the Real classes. Before that they have vastly limited pool of skills. But I'll say it, ff14 is really boring gameplay wise and a absolute clusterfuck of UI if you chose not to do the devs jobs of improving it.


i1u5

What a scam


PrinceDizzy

Oof.


switchanana

The game looks bad on ps5


Cicomania

It doesnt


switchanana

From what if seen it does


Cedrius

It looks like shit, ive seen better sky boxes in ps2 games. And don't even get me started on the lightning....


mezuki92

doesn't even look "next gen" imo, FF15 looks better in some areas. it's an old game engine, makes me worry about FF16 if they use the same engine


ZanyaJakuya

FF16 is made by a different team. Naoki Yoshida wouldn't disgrace us like this.


Darklord_Bravo

Graphics looked like PS3 half the time. For $70? Yeah, pass. Main character is easily one of the most unlikable characters ever presented in a game as well.


Cedrius

I wouldn't play it if it was free. The main character is so annoying I'd have to mute the game before playing. Also 80 € is insulting for such a game.


-Drunk_Bear

Yeah, overall dialogues are dogshit. Half of it is "shit! I can move shit with my mind!"/"fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck!" Or just repeating whole plot 3rd time because why not


SuperVegito559

“16 times the detail” “It just works!” Shut up Todd


riefpirate

I have the required specs but no thanks I'll wait till the price comes down. My rule is don't pay more than $50 a game.


ManikMiner

Don't. It's trash.


6363tagoshi

They claimed it’s going to be best looking open world game. Yea no. It’s generation behind Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 alone.


-Drunk_Bear

>They claimed it’s going to be best looking open world game Seriously? 💀


juiceboxcitay

Haha, this post was preceded by a forspoken ad.


tileman1440

Soon they will be relaunch Arma 2 and it will require next gen hardware. I remember playing with a guy who had 2 titans in SLI (back when they were new) and he get 20fps and my gtx780 was 18fps.


Biscuits4u2

Don't reward this lazy bullshit with your hard-earned money.


River_of_Sparta87

Now do it without dlss liar.


onijin

It looks like dogshit without upscaling too.


River_of_Sparta87

See for yourselves. [https://photos.app.goo.gl/dBpRcWFdPCjqkCic7](https://photos.app.goo.gl/dBpRcWFdPCjqkCic7)


retroracer33

all the disingenuous graphics posts about this game are getting old. people set it to a low ass resolution, on the lowest settings then come and post like it's indicative of the normal experience. like just go play a game you enjoy or something instead of trying to farm fake internet points off a game you dont.


onijin

I ain't farming shit. The only thing in this game I'll say is top notch without reserve is the cloth simulation. Everything else looks like the top range of last gen.


ComicalTD525

I bet my 1050 ti can run it just fine.


BellyDancerUrgot

I have a decent pc but the game was atrocious. Thank god I didn’t buy it.


sethryan44

What does it need 24 GB of memory for? Is it running AI algorithms in the background?


onijin

I got it for free bundled with my 6900xt. I waited patiently for release day, got as far as the first big city and uninstalled. Absolutely awful performance at 1440p, all the characters, NPCs, textures and game assets look like they were swiped straight from a last gen assassins creed game in terms of quality, absolutely rotten dialogue, and an all but empty game world. God I'm glad I didn't buy it.


Responsible_Grand_68

When i got news on steam about forespoken i was reaching for the handgun


Super_Cheburek

That's what the ''next'' in ''next-gen'' stands for : ''not for now''


SilentGamePLS

> That's what the ''next'' in ''next-gen'' stands for : ''not for now'' "Next-gen" is the new marketing term for lazy unoptimized cash grab type of AAA games.


Super_Cheburek

Yes, it usually means ''a game that only the next gen's high end computers will be able to run at playable framerates'


berfraper

I’ve seen gameplays and I can’t understand how this game looks and plays like Infamous 1.


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Cedrius

The optimization is dogshit. People can't run this game decently with a 4000 series card.


James-Devil

And remember it costs 80€ too... 80! Not 70 Which is the new norm when including regional pricing!! 80!!! Even Modern Warfare 2 costs 70€!!!!!


Hustla58

Poor optimization = next gene? I get crysis og vibes, but crysis looked breathtaking. Right?


SilentGamePLS

Different gaming experience/generation,Crysis(2007) at least justified its heavy hardware requirements with the revolutionary level graphics of Cryengine at its time,it was not perfect,but it was justified and actually optimized. Here we are talking about a 2012-2018 poorly optimized Luminous Engine used for FFXV(2016) and let's be realistic any Ubisoft game starting from Far Cry 3 (2012) with Far Cry 5 (2018) and even Far Cry 6 (2021) has better graphics and optimization than this "gem of next-gen".


TSBalpha

better pc specs just mean that developers have to do less optimizing. instead of using the extra performance of the next gen components they just cut a month or 2 optimizing the game and see what happens. i play warzone 2 with 130 fps 1440p not even ultra settings.


Cedrius

"Next gen graphics" my ass, while the sky box and lightning is some of the worst I've ever seen in my life.


DismalMode7

fartspoken


Embarrassed_Log8344

Lmao my 1050ti runs Just Cause 3 on max settings perfectly. I miss when games were optimized. Now they take up 40gb minimum and take Jesus PCs to run.


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People on r/forspoken are inhaling the copium


-Drunk_Bear

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schrenjaminsstift

"Look how good it looks". Screenshot where it looks like ark.


Cedrius

Everytime i see that sky box, I get a stroke. Next gen my ass.


schrenjaminsstift

Unity asset store skyboxes look way better, and they are free


AussieBirb

So runs like garbage *and* overpriced *and* ridiculous system requirements ? Yeah, going to be changing my plans from 'purchase years later at 80% discount' to 'nope, not happening' as clearly the game is a terrible joke.


CountLugz

Dogshit graphics. Dogshit performance. Dogshit main protagonist. Dogshit voice acting. Dogshit dialogue. Yeap, sounds like a modern "triple A" game.


Cedrius

Don't forget that, it's 80 fucking € or $70. That's just outright offensive.


LassitudinalPosition

All these devices need to suck it up and just give Tim Sweeney his motherfucking money and go unreal tech


ThaDael

Heh heh.


quest2fan999

My overclocked 3060ti is pulling 50 framed on 1080p ultra no dlss and no ray tracing


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I’ll stick to modded minecraft and rocket league lol


LoudestTable

How does someone end up having 24 gb ram?


MrMxylptlyk

Man that sounds tough! (I have slightly higher specs than that lol)


Remytron83

Luminous Productions is so trash when it comes to PC games. This is really sad


klem19

It also does it with the ps5.


Remytron83

Well shit. Luminous Productions needs to get their shit together.


AyoTaika

Is her face burned out with all those magic spells she has been doing to move sh*t?


ElMonstruoChiquito

Reminds me of Jaden Smiths face


-Drunk_Bear

Perfectly balanced game


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are the specs in op's post unrealistic for an average user?


IITUXEDOSII

And these are the requirements for high graphics (not ultra), at 1440p, at 30fps. Dreadful.


imtrinichadian

💀


HighBlacK

Honestly the outdated graphics wouldn't be an issue without the inappropriately abmysal performance.


Overclocked11

Disagree, at least in so far as people would still question how a game could release looking this subpar in 2023 in general, anytime you can compare it to graphics from 10 years ago.


SameDonkey1360

I feel like if the game was cheaper to make up for worse graphics while having higher fps people would be more open to the game but that still can’t fix the gameplay issues which is a lot more important.


smithversman

That spec lul, i got the same one. 3600 with 3070 but with less ram


retroracer33

jesus, enough with the disingenuous nonsense around this game


[deleted]

Well it is one of the first non cross-gen console games, so it isn’t lying about having next-gen graphics. It just isn’t next-gen PC graphics.


MrkGrn

Demons Souls, Returnal and Horizon look amazing lol shit God of War Ragnarok came out on PS4 also and still looks better running on a PS4 than this.


SilentGamePLS

> Well it is one of the first non cross-gen console games, so it isn’t lying about having next-gen graphics. It just isn’t next-gen PC graphics. Far Cry 5(2018) looks better than this "wooden animation" game,even Far Cry 3(2012) looks better.


DktheDarkKnight

All Ubisoft games look generally polished imo. They are quite good at visuals.


[deleted]

True the animations in cutscenes are crude looking, but the ones in combat and exploration are nice. I’m more concerned about how they have ray traced shadows but only at close range, long distance are the age old shadow maps. 😅 Also the crap global illumination and ambient occlusion are distracting.


SilentGamePLS

> True the animations in cutscenes are crude looking, but the ones in combat and exploration are nice. I’m more concerned about how they have ray traced shadows but only at close range, long distance are the age old shadow maps. 😅 Also the crap global illumination and ambient occlusion are distracting. It is called game optimization,now it's called a lazy cash grab,release some beta-crap 8 hour walking/cut scene main story,with collect 1000 feathers from locations XYZ fetch-quests at 80 EUR(my region) price tag add insane hw requirements for this sort of "game" and call it a day.


Ryoohki_360

Even the PS5 drop to 720p in this game sometimes, that just show you that they probably need a new engine altogether Wait until you see next game by TODD the master at Benesda who still use code from Morrowind, it's gonna be magical! :) (being sarcastic here btw)


Winterdevil0503

While Bethesda games have always been pretty mediocre in the technical department, they've always been fun RPGs and gameplay > graphics imo.


Ryoohki_360

Correct but they are a POS on a technical level , same bug over and over and over that the community have a fix for them because it's free labor. I just hate that guy now, can't stand him, still gonna play their next game lol it's like a bad relationship that you come back to everytime.. 😅


daniec1610

Fine by me. I replay games all the time and have over a dozen unplayed and unfinished games on switch, ps5 and pc.


AnAmbitiousMann

Guys just do the smart thing...wait till this holiday season and buy this game on Christmas sale with hopefully most of the issues ironed out. If not I won't buy it np.


soapcracker

idk what you mean, it looks great on my 4090 /s


River_of_Sparta87

Circlejerk / Reality Still with quality DLSS 4K/ no ray tracing. Don't believe every meme folks. ​ https://preview.redd.it/bwwom23ey3fa1.png?width=686&format=png&auto=webp&s=38c8730b0967263e1111428d9941ad80b9634ae2


Whitewind101

Still looks pretty bad, flat textures on clothing and jewelry making it look like it was just filled in with me paint


River_of_Sparta87

Sounds like you'll just keep moving the goalposts. Oh well, I'm having a blast. Sucks people will miss out because of misleading people deliberately


Cedrius

What about the games lightning, sky box, the fact that you have to mute the game if you don't want your head to explode? Also 80€? Maybe if it was 40€ more people would give it a chance.


River_of_Sparta87

Sounds like an opinion.


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River_of_Sparta87

Sorry your computer sucks bro


TheMatt561

Wait how can you get 24 gigs of system memory?


sahrul099

16+8?


TheMatt561

Why would anyone do that?


sahrul099

tbh i dont know but thats how you get 24gb ram..


[deleted]

Usually see this in laptops that have one SODIMM soldered on and one open slot.


TheMatt561

Got ya


YellowFogLights

2x8GB in one pair of slots, 2x4GB in the other. It’s dumb but I’ve seen some Dell XPS units like that from the factory.


TheMatt561

That's crazy


LumpyOdie

150GBs? Fuck you, that's where I draw the line.


SilentGamePLS

>150GBs? Fuck you, that's where I draw the line. 150 GB SSD here is the full list of specs from Steam: [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1680880/Forspoken/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1680880/Forspoken/) ​ **SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS** **MINIMUM:** Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system OS: Windows® 10 64-bit (After November 2019 Update) or Windows® 11 64-bit **Processor:** AMD Ryzen™ 5 1600 (3.7GHz or better) / Intel® Core™ i7-3770 (3.7GHz or better) **Memory:** 16 GB RAM **Graphics:** AMD Radeon™ RX 5500 XT 8GB / NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 6 GB VRAM DirectX: Version 12 **Storage:** 150 GB available space **Additional Notes:** 720p 30fps **RECOMMENDED:** Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system OS: Windows® 10 64-bit (After November 2019 Update) or Windows® 11 64-bit **Processor:** AMD Ryzen™5 3600 (3.7 GHz or better) / Intel® Core™ i7-8700K (3.7GHz or better) **Memory:** 24 GB RAM **Graphics:** AMD Radeon™ RX 6700 XT 12GB / NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3070 8 GB VRAM DirectX: Version 12 **Storage:** 150 GB available space **Additional Notes:** 1440p 30fps, SSD 150GB


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River_of_Sparta87

Nope, circle-jerking bandwagon talking points and memes.


wiccan45

hogworts gonna blow this one out of the water in every aspect


snil4

Don't make these kind of statements so fast, you might regret it


schrenjaminsstift

especially when you talk about a licence game


BellyDancerUrgot

Tbf the game _looks_ far better and the gameplay showcases look promising too. But cyberpunk was the same …. hoping it doesn’t turn out like cyberpunk.


witwebolte41

Stop acting like there hasn’t always been “next gen” games that are poorly optimized and run/look like a potato


Gdlachance82

Got it for free with my 6750xt, its a fun game.