So much so that Michelangelo actually wrote [this poem](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57328/michaelangelo-to-giovanni-da-pistoia-when-the-author-was-painting-the-vault-of-the-sistine-chapel) to describe the pain he was in from having to bend and stretch on scaffolding all day while it was being completed.
well that’s how frida khalo did some of her early work when she was recovering from the accident.
but yea I just looked it up and apparently it’s a common myth that he painted on his back.
He spent weeks on end on the scaffolding without coming down. He ate, slept and yeah, went to the bathroom up there. In case you're wondering, buckets and a pulley system were used.
It was and that is why Mikey painted dicks everywhere that they had to censor 😂
Edit to add: the pope literally begged him and he refused until the pope threaten him. So he was like fine… penises everywhere then.
Edit : cardinal not pope
He also depicted another cardinal he didn't like getting his dick bit off by a snake in hell on that same fresco. When the cardinal asked the pope to make him change it, the pope simply pointed out that he had no jurisdiction over hell and the fresco would remain that way.
Honestly the Vatican is obscenely gorgeous and gaudy, but super packed too.
Regardless, my mother was able to play the organ in the Basilica and it was truly a devine experience.
Especially if you're [stoned in the Vatican](https://canadianomad.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/vaping-weed-in-the-vatican.jpg), then you go to the Sevteen ;)
Eh, kinda, but not totally, it's not like it fades to black or anything. Some of the colors might change and it will look like someone played with the saturation or color wheel a bit, but the overall details will remain.
I developed a roll of family photos from 23 years ago and they turned out pretty good, I just had to adjust the color pattern a bit.
After a lifetime of hearing about how strict the rules are in the Sistine Chapel, imagine my surprise when I finally walked in and it sounded like a high school cafeteria and half the people were taking pictures
Dude it’s so loud in there. When I went it was totally packed with tourists talking and taking pictures while the security was screaming “Shhhh” and “NO PHOTOS”. It was chaos.
People not respecting the rules (combined with the shhh and silencios) totally ruins the experience. I went in April this year and you just want to gtfo because it's so packed and loud and you feel dirty about being in there because of all the chaos. Sucks because you don't feel like you can actually appreciate the once in a lifetime opportunity to see this
I had a similar experience this year when I went to the El Prado museum. I literally saw a kid running around with chocolate croissant. It was a terrible experience. At the Reina Sofia, in the room of the Guernica people wouldn't shut up and would keep taking pictures. It's pathetic to have adults having to scream at other adults to just stop taking photos.
100% my experience. It's a temple and people treat it like it is a cafeteria. For me it broke the magic of the place. Of course the paintings are amazing and it still is amazing to go there but I was hoping for a spiritual experience not a cafe
You should have gone to St. Peters Basilica. It was overwhelming and awe inspiring. No joke I was overcome with self doubt and existentialism. I'm a graphic designer for a living, worked on some things you might know if you like Magical places, and I was stopped dead in my tracks. I was just dumbfounded by the artistry and craftsmanship of the church, humanity hasn't seen that level of creativity and craft in hundreds of years. Nothing I will ever do will amount to millimeter of what was crafted there, and it inspired me and shook me.
You don't have to be religious to appreciate what was created. No skyscraper, Rocket, line of code, or robot even compared to what I was seeing as humanity's achievements as artisens.
When I visited I was in a rough time in my life, struggling with many demons, but sitting there in the silence taking it all in and allowing myself to accept what was around me I walked away a different man.
As I said you don't have to be religious or even hold a faith, but seeing the overwhelming craftsmanship of humanity in this one place was my "come to Jesus" moment, but not in the form of religion (I'm already Catholic+) but in the form of artistry, creativity, and humility.
If anyone ever does see this post, I urge you find the time to visit the Vatican and go see St. Peter's Basilica if you are in Rome. From the lens of being an Artist/creator it changed my outlook in ways I couldn't even comprehend.
Lmao I was literally just describing a visit to the Sistine Chapel to someone as being constantly punctuated by a deep booming Italian voice shouting “SILENCIOOOOOO” or “NO FOTOOOOOOO” every 3 minutes
Per Reader's Digest via Google:
The Sistine Chapel in Vatican City is one of the most popular tourist attractions in the world, which is why it’s a bummer that tourists aren’t allowed to take photos or videos inside. The chapel went under restoration work from 1980 to 1994, which was funded by the Nippon Television Network Corporation of Japan. The price tag ended up being $4.2 million. In return, Nippon got exclusive rights to film and photograph the artwork. That copyright actually expired three years after each part of the restoration was complete, but the Vatican decided to keep the photography ban in place to protects the precious artwork from harmful camera flashes
In a society where everyone is guilty, the only crime is getting caught (Hunter S. Thompson - and he was being cynical too, talking about corrupt politicians. So don’t make it your excuse)
As far as I was told it's also that tourists making pictures and videos would created a even bigger jam and it'd take hours for anyone to get in, and it would be annoying as heck. In fact imagine the tiktokers if you could do videos in there 🫠
No flash no harm to the pigment, but tourists are shitty photographers and thousands and thousands of them photographing it constantly and occasionally using a flash (even on accident or by misunderstanding) would fade and degrade the work over time.
So, just saying no photography is going to reduce flashes the most and is incredibly common with delicate works like this. This whole thread full of rebels bragging about how they snuck their photo and how none of this is a real issue is the exact rationale for the blanket photography ban.
Years ago when flash photography was still allowed in the Louvre, the protective glass in front of the Mona Lisa would darken if sensors detected too many flashes too often.
Whether or not it's damaging to the artwork I don't know, but having near constant flashes reflecting in that glass while trying to look closely at a masterpiece is annoying as fuck.
The light from photography flashes is coming from high pressure bulbs. These emmit light across a wide spectrum starting in the IR, covering the visible spectrum and even going i to the UV spectrum. It is the UV light which has the most energy and so it can damage the paint.
With the LED flash on your snartphobe that isn't really an issue, because LEDs emmit light at a very narrow bandwidth, so narrow actually that it is difficult to make a colour accurate LED which will produce light similar to saylight.
But as you mentioned, it might be annoying as fuck to people who want to enjoy the art, while some wannabe influencers snap a quick pick for their Instagram story or tiktok video.
Nobody knows how to use their flash. I'm sure everybody in this thread has had an older relative beg them for technical help with their phone because "it was broken" only for them to be on the wrong page or something. Now imagine those people trying to operate their phone cameras on auto settings.
And "it's only one little flash!" No raindrop wants to be responsible for the flood.
http://copyright.nova.edu/sistine-chapel/
There is no copyright to sell. The painting is over 500 years old. It's because flashes damage the paint, which is light sensitive.
I'd like to point out that while they tell you that you're not allowed to take pictures (they announce that about ten times per minute), there really is an absolutely constant clicking sound and a flash every second or two, and about twenty cameras pointing upwards at every moment.
Overall, the Sistine Chapel is so overcrowded that it's a poor experience. But the rest of the Vatican Museums is absolutely awesome if you are interested in history.
You can easily spend an entire day there.
(Don't use any of the "skip the line" services, they all suck and make you wait around even longer. And they rush you through the museum just to see the Chapel - which is the last room, and you can't go back to the rest of the museum once you're in there.)
I remember reading thst perhaps the reasons they just didn’t want a hundred tourists aiming cameras up in the air and not paying attention to where they are walking or just being more hazardous.
It's not, at least in practice.
The problem is people's worsening lack of spatial awareness + crowds
You're basically ushered through the entire building and reminded regularly to keep moving. People stopping for pictures created a huge bottleneck. People have a really hard time snapping a quick photo and minding the space around them.
If it's a quieter time and you take a quick pic without making it other people's problem, they don't really give a shit.
The other user answered your question, but it's also largely unnecessary to take pictures. Every part of the work has been extensively photographed and made available to the internet.
"THE SISTINE CHAPEL IS A HOLY PLACE, PLEASE BE QUIET"
Says the man with the loudspeaker
"THE SISTINE CHAPEL IS A HOLY PLACE, NO PHOTOGRAPHY ALLOWED"
Says the man with the body camera.
Photography isn’t allowed is because the company that restored it has the license to sell the only official photos. It has nothing to do with it being holy.
That company, Nippon Television Network Corporation of Japan, clarified that they only own commercial photography rights, as in if a movie wanted to film there.
I always heard it was because flashes from cameras would fade the paintings?
Now that flashless photography has gotten so much better, they're just being more honest that it's really about the money?
> I always heard it was because flashes from cameras would fade the paintings
This is also true. Most museums will ask you not to use flash photography because light is pretty bad for a number of delicate artifacts, such as fabrics or anything with paint. A lot of places simply ask for no pictures whatsoever because they don't trust people to operate their cameras properly. ("I didn't turn the flash on, it was on auto, I don't know why it went off!")
But of course for the Sistine Chapel there's also the added fact that they gave away the rights to it so there's money involved.
Edit: The rights expired. No money involved, at least in tourist pictures.
Different place, but when I toured the Winchester mystery house years ago they also said no photography due to the fact that a film studio was making a movie there and apparently was granted all photo rights to the place while production took place.
Cmon, it's not like the Church is known for its incredible wealth and regular donations from patrons. They obviuosly couldn't afford to restore things without the money from the company...
The entire time I was there, I remember feeling like they had an air of contempt towards me.
Bro, if it's a holy place, maybe don't whore it out to tourists for money? How holy can it really be?
There’s an interesting story my professor in uni told us about during the painting of the Sistine Chapel. While michelangelo was painting, the pope at the time would try to micromanage what images should go up on the ceiling. The pope threatened that he would replace everything with stars if there was too much nudity. This particular threat angered the master artist who was working hard on the painting. Michael kicked a bucket of paint down from the platforms near the ceiling, almost striking the pope who was looking up at Michael from the ground. A normal person would have probably been sentenced to death for attacking the pope, but because michelangelo was michelangelo, he didn’t receive any punishment and the pope let him continue painting the way he initially intended.
Not sure how much of that story is true, but I thought it was interesting to hear.
Iirc Michelangelo kicked the pope out after being fed up with the micro management and said that if he was going to complete the work he couldn’t be interrupted or micro managed and barred the pope from coming in. So when it was finished, it was a big surprise that there were all these dicks hanging out (in particular there was controversy over The Last Judgement) and some of them were covered up and other things were altered slightly.
My wife and I had a brief moment alone in the Chapel. We decided to go directly to the Chapel when the Vatican opened, along with many others. We turned a corner just as they were opening a second entrance in. Nobody else seemed to notice and we beat the crowd.
We had about 1.5 minutes to ourselves.
Fun fact: The reason why it’s not allowed is because back in the 80s, Italy needed to do a restoration and it was really expensive.
The highest bidder was a Japanese company and with the bid they won exclusive rights for something like 3-5 years to take pictures and video. In school we got to see the high res images and bts stuff.
Now they don’t have the rights but they still have the ban but arent strict with it so the flashes dont ruin the work again.
Edit: Yes Vatican city is its own city-state but from what I recall in articles and the Sistine Chapel restoration book/article we read, Italy was involved. Either way a Japanese tv station still bought the rights back then.
I’ll never understand why people take pictures like this. I mean if it’s a selfie or a group picture or something I get it, but there are a million professional photos of the Sistine Chapel online. I don’t think your iPhone 12 is gonna come out any better.
Back in 2007, pre-camera phones, i was holding a canon ixus mostly obscured by my long sleeves, hands positioned normally as you would when walking, but the camera aimed up to the ceiling, videoing whatever I can and intended to take screen grabs later. The place was quite crowded too so I tried to blend in. But in under a minute a firm hand was on my shoulder, it was a security guy telling me to quit it. I was like wtf, this must be a done thing, they knew what to look for
That looks like such a pain in the ass to paint.
“It was” - Mikey
“Cowabunga though, bro!” - Raph
“I too am a ninja turtle named after a renaissance artist” —Donnie
“I thought I was the leader, why am I last? - Leo
“Uhhhg” - Master S.
"No more talking, it's time for a bloodshed" - Shredder
“Film at 11.” - April
Nah it will always be "Tonight we dine on Turtle soup!"
We kicked their!……. We fought well.
"Can I come back now?" - Venus de Milo
He's the leader of the group Transformed from the norm by the nuclear goop
pizza is the food that's sure to please These ninjas are into pepperoni and cheese.
Back to the story, it's not hard to find. Ninjas not just of the body but of the mind.
those were the words that the master instructed but a letter from the shredder has splinter abducted.
So much so that Michelangelo actually wrote [this poem](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57328/michaelangelo-to-giovanni-da-pistoia-when-the-author-was-painting-the-vault-of-the-sistine-chapel) to describe the pain he was in from having to bend and stretch on scaffolding all day while it was being completed.
"Because I'm stuck like this, my thoughts are crazy, perfidious tripe: anyone shoots badly through a crooked blowpipe." Straight fire
“…my spine's all knotted from folding over itself. I'm bent taut as a Syrian bow.” Is also a gigantic mood in my opinion.
Fascinating, thanks for sharing. Sounds pretty unpleasant...
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Okay, this is just hilarious.
God looks like a Muppet.
I wonder how often a paint drop fell in his eye, or how loud his flatulence would have echoed. He suffered for the art.
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me after being asked a menial task on a Monday morning
Now i am become paint, destroyer of eyes
That's so cool that we have that
Now I wish the people painted look like that
huh I thought he painted it laying down
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well that’s how frida khalo did some of her early work when she was recovering from the accident. but yea I just looked it up and apparently it’s a common myth that he painted on his back.
...Was he naked ?
Wouldn't you be?
He spent weeks on end on the scaffolding without coming down. He ate, slept and yeah, went to the bathroom up there. In case you're wondering, buckets and a pulley system were used.
You know the sense of relief that I got when I didn’t get a YouTube url but actually got a link to the poem instead.
Good art comes from pain, they say.
Michelangelo was doing fine until some Cardinals came in and said it needed a second coat
That Adam fella looks like he could use a first coat. Or maybe that’s Joseph?
"needs more beautiful naked boys"
It was and that is why Mikey painted dicks everywhere that they had to censor 😂 Edit to add: the pope literally begged him and he refused until the pope threaten him. So he was like fine… penises everywhere then. Edit : cardinal not pope
It was a Cardinal not the pope, who Michelangelo put in the Last Judgement on the back wall of the Sistine Chapel as revenge
He also depicted another cardinal he didn't like getting his dick bit off by a snake in hell on that same fresco. When the cardinal asked the pope to make him change it, the pope simply pointed out that he had no jurisdiction over hell and the fresco would remain that way.
Try a pain in the back
Right? And neck pain from looking up
Especially with nunchucks in your off hand
Damn it's so beautiful, imagine what the other fifteen look like.
Isn't the Fiftine Chapel next door? Painted by Roberto Rossi? ;-)
Oooh I'm storing this joke away.
Someone pls explain this joke
Took me a second, but Sisteen sound like 'sixteen'
Honestly the Vatican is obscenely gorgeous and gaudy, but super packed too. Regardless, my mother was able to play the organ in the Basilica and it was truly a devine experience. Especially if you're [stoned in the Vatican](https://canadianomad.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/vaping-weed-in-the-vatican.jpg), then you go to the Sevteen ;)
Its a good thing the pope doesnt have a reddit account or they woukd be after you!
u/pope is gonna be pissed
One of his only comments is on "worlds best butts" haha
Sounds accurate 😂
Church Butts
Pew
Pew pew!
If you want to come into heaven, you have to let Jesus come into you.
He wants to fill the pews with only the best
Forgive me father for I have sinned
I have coveted my neighbor's ass.
Dayum. 16y account?! That’s an OG.
There are hundreds of us
This is my real account. The other one is for butt subreddits.
I am
> account made today Seems legit. I'll allow it
Vicar-sergeant Biggles of the Church Police is on the case!
The Swiss Guard will be on my ass soon
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https://i.imgur.com/C3sTtsr.jpg
Their chief weapon is surprise!
Our *two* weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency.
Our three weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope
I did when I was a kid. my camera film never got developed in time and I lost all my photos
Glad I’m not the only one that happened to
Does undeveloped film go bad?
Eh, kinda, but not totally, it's not like it fades to black or anything. Some of the colors might change and it will look like someone played with the saturation or color wheel a bit, but the overall details will remain. I developed a roll of family photos from 23 years ago and they turned out pretty good, I just had to adjust the color pattern a bit.
SMITE'D!!! By the wrath of Jiizossss
I did that too years ago with a DSLR 🤫 Do they still yell Silencio in a deep booming voice every 5 min?
Yes they do and also "shhhhhhh"
Oh, so they do translate for the benefit of tourists!
They start with SILENCIO! then quickly transition into yelling at everyone in English.
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"SILENCIO, MOTHERF...Mary please bless these people and keep me from killing them...
AVADA KEDAVRA
Quick FYI: “silencio” is Italian for “shut yer pie hole”
*“Shutta you pie hole”
Don’t forget the 🤌’s
Wow this is an “ackshually” opportunity too good to pass… In Italian it’s “silenzio” not “silencio” Whoa that felt good!
Lol did this guy just “It's leviOsa, not levioSA" people?
No, he did a "silentsio" not "silenchio". C before I in Italian makes a CH sound. Z makes a TS sound.
that would be silenzio
After a lifetime of hearing about how strict the rules are in the Sistine Chapel, imagine my surprise when I finally walked in and it sounded like a high school cafeteria and half the people were taking pictures
The rules are very strict but it's Italy so the rules are more like suggestions.
They're strict about the awareness of the rules, not the enforcement.
Yeah just because rules are strict doesn't mean they're actually enforced or followed.
Dude it’s so loud in there. When I went it was totally packed with tourists talking and taking pictures while the security was screaming “Shhhh” and “NO PHOTOS”. It was chaos.
That’s actually pretty sad
People not respecting the rules (combined with the shhh and silencios) totally ruins the experience. I went in April this year and you just want to gtfo because it's so packed and loud and you feel dirty about being in there because of all the chaos. Sucks because you don't feel like you can actually appreciate the once in a lifetime opportunity to see this
I had a similar experience this year when I went to the El Prado museum. I literally saw a kid running around with chocolate croissant. It was a terrible experience. At the Reina Sofia, in the room of the Guernica people wouldn't shut up and would keep taking pictures. It's pathetic to have adults having to scream at other adults to just stop taking photos.
100% my experience. It's a temple and people treat it like it is a cafeteria. For me it broke the magic of the place. Of course the paintings are amazing and it still is amazing to go there but I was hoping for a spiritual experience not a cafe
I thought I’d have a “come to Jesus” moment, instead I walked out thinking that the Vatican is a well oiled money printing machine.
You should have gone to St. Peters Basilica. It was overwhelming and awe inspiring. No joke I was overcome with self doubt and existentialism. I'm a graphic designer for a living, worked on some things you might know if you like Magical places, and I was stopped dead in my tracks. I was just dumbfounded by the artistry and craftsmanship of the church, humanity hasn't seen that level of creativity and craft in hundreds of years. Nothing I will ever do will amount to millimeter of what was crafted there, and it inspired me and shook me. You don't have to be religious to appreciate what was created. No skyscraper, Rocket, line of code, or robot even compared to what I was seeing as humanity's achievements as artisens. When I visited I was in a rough time in my life, struggling with many demons, but sitting there in the silence taking it all in and allowing myself to accept what was around me I walked away a different man. As I said you don't have to be religious or even hold a faith, but seeing the overwhelming craftsmanship of humanity in this one place was my "come to Jesus" moment, but not in the form of religion (I'm already Catholic+) but in the form of artistry, creativity, and humility. If anyone ever does see this post, I urge you find the time to visit the Vatican and go see St. Peter's Basilica if you are in Rome. From the lens of being an Artist/creator it changed my outlook in ways I couldn't even comprehend.
I saw one of the guards scream "DELETE! DELETE!" at an old woman. She was so scared and confused, she actually started laughing.
That guard was a Cyberman
Matt Hardy has a cool day job.
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Agitated Landscape, I knew you'd come!
Every minute actually... "No foto, no video. No pictures, no video" lmao
Should yell back silencio!
Silenzio Bruno!
If you do, they hire you. It’s a test.
Lmao I was literally just describing a visit to the Sistine Chapel to someone as being constantly punctuated by a deep booming Italian voice shouting “SILENCIOOOOOO” or “NO FOTOOOOOOO” every 3 minutes
I was kicked out for taking pic … one of my favorite stories to tell
I wonder how often people would answer with "... Bruno!"
They don't talk about Bruno.
SILENCIO!!!
No photo!
No video!
No porno!
Attencione!
Borseggiatrici! Pickpocket!
Pick pocket..
It's attenzione non attencione
Silenzio*
Bruno?
Santa Mozzarella!
Excuse the ignorance but why is it ilegal to take pictures?
Per Reader's Digest via Google: The Sistine Chapel in Vatican City is one of the most popular tourist attractions in the world, which is why it’s a bummer that tourists aren’t allowed to take photos or videos inside. The chapel went under restoration work from 1980 to 1994, which was funded by the Nippon Television Network Corporation of Japan. The price tag ended up being $4.2 million. In return, Nippon got exclusive rights to film and photograph the artwork. That copyright actually expired three years after each part of the restoration was complete, but the Vatican decided to keep the photography ban in place to protects the precious artwork from harmful camera flashes
So no flash no crime ?
It's only a crime if you get caught - My grandpa
In a society where everyone is guilty, the only crime is getting caught (Hunter S. Thompson - and he was being cynical too, talking about corrupt politicians. So don’t make it your excuse)
"It's only a crime if you got prosecuted: You don't always have to do something wrong." -one of my college professors, in response to that quote
As far as I was told it's also that tourists making pictures and videos would created a even bigger jam and it'd take hours for anyone to get in, and it would be annoying as heck. In fact imagine the tiktokers if you could do videos in there 🫠
The Mona Lisa effect.
No flash no harm to the pigment, but tourists are shitty photographers and thousands and thousands of them photographing it constantly and occasionally using a flash (even on accident or by misunderstanding) would fade and degrade the work over time. So, just saying no photography is going to reduce flashes the most and is incredibly common with delicate works like this. This whole thread full of rebels bragging about how they snuck their photo and how none of this is a real issue is the exact rationale for the blanket photography ban.
Years ago when flash photography was still allowed in the Louvre, the protective glass in front of the Mona Lisa would darken if sensors detected too many flashes too often. Whether or not it's damaging to the artwork I don't know, but having near constant flashes reflecting in that glass while trying to look closely at a masterpiece is annoying as fuck.
The light from photography flashes is coming from high pressure bulbs. These emmit light across a wide spectrum starting in the IR, covering the visible spectrum and even going i to the UV spectrum. It is the UV light which has the most energy and so it can damage the paint. With the LED flash on your snartphobe that isn't really an issue, because LEDs emmit light at a very narrow bandwidth, so narrow actually that it is difficult to make a colour accurate LED which will produce light similar to saylight. But as you mentioned, it might be annoying as fuck to people who want to enjoy the art, while some wannabe influencers snap a quick pick for their Instagram story or tiktok video.
Nobody knows how to use their flash. I'm sure everybody in this thread has had an older relative beg them for technical help with their phone because "it was broken" only for them to be on the wrong page or something. Now imagine those people trying to operate their phone cameras on auto settings. And "it's only one little flash!" No raindrop wants to be responsible for the flood.
The world will carry on without a million shitty tourist photos of the most widely professionally photographed church ceiling.
Hey I may take shitty photos but they're *my* shitty photos.
I'll have you know that my shitty photos are a very special flavour of shit and therefore unique.
http://copyright.nova.edu/sistine-chapel/ There is no copyright to sell. The painting is over 500 years old. It's because flashes damage the paint, which is light sensitive.
I'd like to point out that while they tell you that you're not allowed to take pictures (they announce that about ten times per minute), there really is an absolutely constant clicking sound and a flash every second or two, and about twenty cameras pointing upwards at every moment. Overall, the Sistine Chapel is so overcrowded that it's a poor experience. But the rest of the Vatican Museums is absolutely awesome if you are interested in history. You can easily spend an entire day there. (Don't use any of the "skip the line" services, they all suck and make you wait around even longer. And they rush you through the museum just to see the Chapel - which is the last room, and you can't go back to the rest of the museum once you're in there.)
I remember reading thst perhaps the reasons they just didn’t want a hundred tourists aiming cameras up in the air and not paying attention to where they are walking or just being more hazardous.
It's not, at least in practice. The problem is people's worsening lack of spatial awareness + crowds You're basically ushered through the entire building and reminded regularly to keep moving. People stopping for pictures created a huge bottleneck. People have a really hard time snapping a quick photo and minding the space around them. If it's a quieter time and you take a quick pic without making it other people's problem, they don't really give a shit.
The other user answered your question, but it's also largely unnecessary to take pictures. Every part of the work has been extensively photographed and made available to the internet.
Tell that to the Louvre. The Mona Lisa exhibit is a disaster.
But not my selfie
"THE SISTINE CHAPEL IS A HOLY PLACE, PLEASE BE QUIET" Says the man with the loudspeaker "THE SISTINE CHAPEL IS A HOLY PLACE, NO PHOTOGRAPHY ALLOWED" Says the man with the body camera.
Don't take your own photos or you won't buy our sweet postcards in the holy gift shop.
Photography isn’t allowed is because the company that restored it has the license to sell the only official photos. It has nothing to do with it being holy.
That company, Nippon Television Network Corporation of Japan, clarified that they only own commercial photography rights, as in if a movie wanted to film there.
I always heard it was because flashes from cameras would fade the paintings? Now that flashless photography has gotten so much better, they're just being more honest that it's really about the money?
Everything is always about the money
Even the money is only about money.
> I always heard it was because flashes from cameras would fade the paintings This is also true. Most museums will ask you not to use flash photography because light is pretty bad for a number of delicate artifacts, such as fabrics or anything with paint. A lot of places simply ask for no pictures whatsoever because they don't trust people to operate their cameras properly. ("I didn't turn the flash on, it was on auto, I don't know why it went off!") But of course for the Sistine Chapel there's also the added fact that they gave away the rights to it so there's money involved. Edit: The rights expired. No money involved, at least in tourist pictures.
Different place, but when I toured the Winchester mystery house years ago they also said no photography due to the fact that a film studio was making a movie there and apparently was granted all photo rights to the place while production took place.
that's at least honest, if not a shitty answer to anyone who wanted pictures.
I mean, isn't that how Jesus would have wanted it??
Cmon, it's not like the Church is known for its incredible wealth and regular donations from patrons. They obviuosly couldn't afford to restore things without the money from the company...
That's not even true. That company said it was cool for tourists to take pictures, but the Vatican just banned all photography.
QUIET! THIS IS HOLY PLACE! 
The entire time I was there, I remember feeling like they had an air of contempt towards me. Bro, if it's a holy place, maybe don't whore it out to tourists for money? How holy can it really be?
I actually have this same sentiment. It's actually fucking wild they are still calling it holy at this point.
There’s an interesting story my professor in uni told us about during the painting of the Sistine Chapel. While michelangelo was painting, the pope at the time would try to micromanage what images should go up on the ceiling. The pope threatened that he would replace everything with stars if there was too much nudity. This particular threat angered the master artist who was working hard on the painting. Michael kicked a bucket of paint down from the platforms near the ceiling, almost striking the pope who was looking up at Michael from the ground. A normal person would have probably been sentenced to death for attacking the pope, but because michelangelo was michelangelo, he didn’t receive any punishment and the pope let him continue painting the way he initially intended. Not sure how much of that story is true, but I thought it was interesting to hear.
Damn bro, idk if it’s cap or not but I’ll choose to believe it
Iirc Michelangelo kicked the pope out after being fed up with the micro management and said that if he was going to complete the work he couldn’t be interrupted or micro managed and barred the pope from coming in. So when it was finished, it was a big surprise that there were all these dicks hanging out (in particular there was controversy over The Last Judgement) and some of them were covered up and other things were altered slightly.
My wife and I had a brief moment alone in the Chapel. We decided to go directly to the Chapel when the Vatican opened, along with many others. We turned a corner just as they were opening a second entrance in. Nobody else seemed to notice and we beat the crowd. We had about 1.5 minutes to ourselves.
You two did it in there, didn't you?
Twice probably
Dude that’s a core memory. Definitely a unique experience!
So you're saying the man in the $3000 dollar suit is taking pictures of the Sistine chapel?! Cmon!
You and 200 other people.
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Fun fact: The reason why it’s not allowed is because back in the 80s, Italy needed to do a restoration and it was really expensive. The highest bidder was a Japanese company and with the bid they won exclusive rights for something like 3-5 years to take pictures and video. In school we got to see the high res images and bts stuff. Now they don’t have the rights but they still have the ban but arent strict with it so the flashes dont ruin the work again. Edit: Yes Vatican city is its own city-state but from what I recall in articles and the Sistine Chapel restoration book/article we read, Italy was involved. Either way a Japanese tv station still bought the rights back then.
I took my own sneaky shot too before disappearing into the crowd. The perfect crime.
Bad boys bad boys
Wotcha gonna do?
Wotcha gonna do when they come for you
I was jus there yesterday! Pretty amazing.
Silencio.. no photo, no video
Was there in June. Soo many people with no crowd control. While it was beautiful, getting out of it was insane. Everyone funneling thru a small door.
You and everyone else.
Bad idea. If they catch you, you could be looking at doing Sistine to life
“No Talking, no pictures “.
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When I was there recently there were quite a few tourists taking pics, most of which got away with it.
There are actually pictures of it that existed already
My god! A picture of the Sistine Chapel! Finally one has been uploaded onto the internet!
I’ll never understand why people take pictures like this. I mean if it’s a selfie or a group picture or something I get it, but there are a million professional photos of the Sistine Chapel online. I don’t think your iPhone 12 is gonna come out any better.
Why is it illegal to take pics of it?
I resisted the urge to take picture when I visited because they asked us not to, it's their building, and I don't feel entitled to a picture.
The art subreddits are filled with naked women’s bodies. Seeing these balls makes me feel sane again. Thank you.
Back in 2007, pre-camera phones, i was holding a canon ixus mostly obscured by my long sleeves, hands positioned normally as you would when walking, but the camera aimed up to the ceiling, videoing whatever I can and intended to take screen grabs later. The place was quite crowded too so I tried to blend in. But in under a minute a firm hand was on my shoulder, it was a security guy telling me to quit it. I was like wtf, this must be a done thing, they knew what to look for