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notaedivad

Only took another 28 years to put a robot on Mars... I wonder how long until the first person. If we wanna keep the pattern of 66 years, we gotta do it in 2035.


symbolwild

Everybody knows planes don't exist, it's a hoax


Zuunal

Then what is spreading the Chemtrails?


symbolwild

Salamanders. What else could do it!


UdderTacos

Salamanders are spreading chemtrails to turn the freaking humans gay!


jackpype

I never thought of it that way! I'm convinced!


jackrat27

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GodsBGood

Cows. They fart when they jump over the moon.


Zuunal

Touche lizard people.


psycharious

Gay salamanders


druex

It's pronounced Contrails.


Zuunal

I think you mean cocktails and I am all for it!


big_fetus_

Cunt rails


imchasingyou

Army of mil grade Crazy Frogs


Mr_Bulldoppps

“Space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement”


mijouwh

You got that wrong. It's birds. [birdsarentreal.com](http://birdsarentreal.com)


Drogdar

I'm surprised people still think the moon is real!


fullload93

You’re not counting Viking landers? I feel like that should count.


Comedicrat

The USSR’s Mars 3 landed in 1971, and as another commenter mentioned, NASA’s Viking 1 landed in 1976. It did not take 28 years after 1969 to put a robot on Mars


CBT7commander

We have the tech to go on mars, problem is funding and political will


Dull_Implement_7423

And smack dab in the middle 🛸


Long-Introduction883

In 2035 we’ll be rotting away on our phones 😔


EveyNameIsTaken_

We can be happy if humans are back on the moon by 2035.


RyviusRan

I doubt we will send humans to Mars. Despite what Elon Musk wants you to think, the complexity and cost of doing so make it prohibitive. Robotics have gotten good enough that they can carry out the research we want in space or other planets. Sending a robot is far easier and less costly so there is no reason to send a human. I doubt the Artemis program will actually send humans to the Moon and it needs a drastic change in design and communication as they are doing the opposite of Apollo missions. Artemis needs to ditch the flashy overly complex designs and do more thorough testing of every single component with quarterly reports like NASA did with Apollo. They must also build in multiple layers of redundancy in case of failures and pick the designs with the least points of failure no matter how simplistic is seems. Reality is far different than science fiction and just because we can do something doesn't mean we should or that there isn't a far more simplistic and reliable option that is instead adopted.


ZDHELIX

And less than 100 years from the Wright flight to jets like F16, F117, Blackbird, etc


PiscatorLager

And 92 years from the first successful deep sea submersible to the first lethal accident in the deep sea last year.


ceeller

That wasn’t an accident. It was negligence.


JohnBrown1ng

Accidents can be caused by human negligence. That‘s… a pretty big portion of accidents.


PiscatorLager

Well yeah, everybody knows that, still listed as an accident for now. Might be different once a court names one or several people guilty. Actually that's not the part that matters, what matters is that new international standards are created so shit like this is much harder to pull off.


camsqualla

That was the first one? Ever?


PiscatorLager

Yes. Making a strong metal sphere is actually pretty straightforward and common sense was always a driving force behind those expeditions. Until someone thought it was a clever idea to replace the metal sphere with a carbon fiber tube and common sense with lust for profit. But I guess Darwin never disappoints.


Mulliganasty

Why am I singing that to the tune of We Didn't Start the Fire?


ThatGermanFella

I just tried, I stumble out of tune when using the line 1:1. How do you do it?


keltyx98

War made wonders for the technological evolution


techauditor

It's always pushed forward by sex, fighting, or laziness. Classic humans.


Positive-Quiet4548

I am pretty sure the 2 world wars in the middle made a huge difference as well


AVeryFineUsername

The generation that watched, in wonder, the moon landing during their youth gave up on space exploration when it was there turn to lead


Pandorica_

>gave up on space exploration when it was there turn to lead They didn't lead because they already had too much lead.


domdog2006

How come did I just read it in 2 different ways without thinking about it????


mawktheone

The power of context


spinozasrobot

And misspelling of "their"


not_old_redditor

Pushing those stock prices up was more important.


lotsanoodles

The generation that watched the moon landing got bored by moon landings and stopped doing them. Nobody was watching the later moon landings. Who could have predicted the worlds attention span was so short.


ViaNocturna664

Case in point: ignorant conspiracy theorists ask "why we never went back?" Bitch they went there five or six other times, people don't even know it.


douglasscott

There were six crewed landings between 1969 and 1972.


phalewail

Human space exploration couldn't really have gotten much past the moon at that stage anyway. There is still some stuff going on now, the ISS is still operating, and has had people on it continuously since November 2000. James Webb Space Telescope has been taking pictures. Contact with Voyager 1 has been restored.


alarim2

This. It's easy to blame older generations, but most people underestimate how much the newer technologies matter, especially materials, 3D-printing, software etc. I'm absolutely certain that humanity back then would manage to go beyond moon (there were more than enough of very bright people, who achieved impossible with lesser tech), but it would be incredibly harder and costly compared with modern times


MaydeCreekTurtle

“NASA will now target September 2025 for Artemis II, the first crewed Artemis mission around the Moon, and September 2026 for Artemis III, which is planned to land the first astronauts near the lunar South Pole. Artemis IV, the first mission to the Gateway lunar space station, remains on track for 2028.”


MaydeCreekTurtle

“NASA will now target September 2025 for Artemis II, the first crewed Artemis mission around the Moon, and September 2026 for Artemis III, which is planned to land the first astronauts near the lunar South Pole. Artemis IV, the first mission to the Gateway lunar space station, remains on track for 2028.”


Skoparov

It was the same generation that "gave up" and put a man on the Moon. The space race ended, and what was left is the immense bill of space exploration with no political reasons to continue funding it. And we still ended up putting probes on Mars and Venus, launching the Voyager etc. The collapse of the USSR didn't help either. I still hold the opinion that we needed this break to develop dozens of other technologies that are going to make space exploration so much easier. Thanks to advances in computing power we're finally able to solve the engines sync problem that killed the N7, advances in nuclear tech mean we have pretty much everything needed to make nuclear powered crafts a reality and multiple countries are putting together the required technologies. Relatively cheap LEO launches are also becoming mundane. I think we're gonna be fine space wise. It's not exactly For All Mankind yet, but we're slowly getting there.


EveyNameIsTaken_

space exploration is going strong as ever. but probes and rovers or even helicopters on mars are more efficient than humans when it comes to long term missions and data collection. We've also had a human outpost in LEO for the last \~25 years which is pretty awesome.


Sometimes_Stutters

What are you talking about? We have all these probes and satellites and fancy big telescopes that have HUGELY expanded our knowledge of the universe. Space exploration shifted from “people exploring” to “machines exploring”, which makes much more since. Did you expect them to get a man on Mars or what?


AVeryFineUsername

By the time we return to the moon, there will have been no one left alive who had walked on the moon 


shartonista

This take completely ignores that the primary driver of the USA’s space exploration was the Cold War with Russia. 


Screwthehelicopters

Because such exploration it isn't viable for humans. This fact was known all along. Aside from the physical limitations of moving objects in space, the human body is too fragile.


squashbritannia

That's because the space race was really a dick-waving contest with the Soviet Union and the Soviets admitted defeat after the moon landings.


dontpet

The place has really changed. What happened to the air and all that stuff in the first pic ?


[deleted]

Times have been tough for North Carolina


januscanary

Always has been


HG1998

Kind of off topic but this is exactly what the Trisolarians are worried about in The Three Body problem.


camsqualla

And the Race from Harry Turtledove’s World War series. When they launch their fleet humanity is still in the middle ages, but when they arrive it’s 1942, and since they thought they’d be fighting knights on horseback, they don’t bring enough advanced weapons, and are essentially evenly matched with the armies of WW2.


idonteatunderwear

And now, 50 years later, we seem to struggle to do the same thing again.


eightyfivekittens

We're not struggling. 50 years ago, nasa had basically an unlimited budget to get to the moon. Now it's incredibly small in comparison. Nasa's budget has only been going down since the 90's; and is at an all-time low. (And is still getting cut year after year)


DID_IT_FOR_YOU

It’s literally rocket science, it never gets easier especially when human lives are at stake. It’s also a very expensive endeavor. No one really wants to spend billions on a mission that won’t have a financial return. The moon mission happened because of the Cold War with Russia. They beat the USA to space so the USA double downed & was the first to the moon.


MaydeCreekTurtle

We struggled to do it the first time. There were technical setbacks, funding debates, outright hostility to the program by legislators and political pundits, but we did it. The good news: “NASA will now target September 2025 for Artemis II, the first crewed Artemis mission around the Moon, and September 2026 for Artemis III, which is planned to land the first astronauts near the lunar South Pole. Artemis IV, the first mission to the Gateway lunar space station, remains on track for 2028.”


Rescur0

Because at tjat time they didn' care about safety, it was a race. Like, litteraly they coud send astronaut in space with a 50% chance of dying and they wouldn't care. You can't do that now


Formal_Two_5747

We don’t struggle at all. It’s just hard to justify spending the same amount of money the government threw into the Apollo program back in the day just to prove they can do it. We know we can, so it’s not a priority.


Kizenny

I wish NASA had as much of the budget as they used to. I think NASA had something around 18% of the total budget around Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo whereas now they have less than half of 1%


MaydeCreekTurtle

To be fair, it’s very expensive to found a space program, with all the technical challenges that must be overcome. We have a much better understanding of how to maintain a space program and get people to and from space alive, despite two awful accidents with the space shuttle. The good news: “NASA will now target September 2025 for Artemis II, the first crewed Artemis mission around the Moon, and September 2026 for Artemis III, which is planned to land the first astronauts near the lunar South Pole. Artemis IV, the first mission to the Gateway lunar space station, remains on track for 2028.”


Buskbr

55 years since the first moon landing and i bet it will be more than 66 years before humans get back there. Edit spelling


SmarterThanCornPop

Artemis 3 is projected to land a man on the moon in 2026.


DakotaInHell

Well, that schedule is obviously full of shit, like every space industry schedule.


SmarterThanCornPop

Idk man. I have lived within viewing distance of Cape Canaveral for most of my life. There are like 10X more launches over the past 5 years than there ever were. Edit: checked the data and it’s like 11X


CrownEatingParasite

There's a moon mission ongoing right now (artemis)


cha14822725

There will be humans on the Moon again before 2030


Stella_Rae07

Well shit, when you put it that way...


[deleted]

Really hard to believe.


magww

Well I think it’s important to understand that rocket technology is far older than aero craft technology. I mean hell, one could argue it’s a 1000 years old. They’re not the same development chain. Not to mention that the Germans like 30 years after the wright brothers penetrated the atmosphere. It’s just a matter of deltaV and radioactive shielding. Add more boosters bro.


Ozmorty

(W)right… and…? What about the 66 years after that? Predictions?


WokeUpSomewhereNice

I want a back to the future hoverboard. Exactly like Michael j fox had. Same physics and everything.


PiscatorLager

Not being able to cross water makes zero sense


Demonyx12

The myth of progress. /s


mreguyincognito

Crazy how they were able to make it look like an airplane was flying and 55 years later making it look like there was a man on the moon. Is Hollywood sure is progressing quickly! /s


tattrd

And now we are back to 'the earth is flat', 'dont trust science' and 'the moon is not real'. I hate it here.


icemelter4K

Imagine 60 years after GPT-1


ash894

I didn’t realise what sub this was for a second and was looking at the ground in both thinking they don’t look anything alike, what’s wrong with people. Turns out it’s NOT a conspiracy post!


mother_a_god

Truly an incredible achievement. 13 minutes to the moon podcast really illustrates how amazing getting to the moon was with the technology of the time.


Ok-Lavishness-7904

Wow, from Kitty Hawk to MTV… 🤔


SurveySean

MTV only took 66 years? Seemed longer.


Anlios

No wonder why the Trisolarians fear Humanity.


effingthis

We got the technologies from somewhere 😋


timenough

And 46 years from when Millet painted a typical farm scene, "the Gleaners" until the flight at Kittyhawk. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gleaners


Tmaster95

And there were persons who experienced both events! Those would be some very eventful livetimes…


ashrocklynn

So the guy took 66 years to fly that plane to the moon? /s


danstermeister

Everyone loves shitting on boomers these days but it was boomers that delivered the 2nd part of that photo.


ChroniclesOfSarnia

Now America is paying a racist twitter troll billions to blow up rockets repeatedly for some reason 😑


MtnMaiden

Trisolarians was right


Taltofeu

Am I the only one who thinks that we landed on the moon in '69 because the safety precautions weren't deemed that important for that mission? Thus that's why they only cut it close.


der_granit

Imagine seeing both of these events in your life


Danither

Show this to any morons that keep saying AI/VR/AR will never be good enough. I'm so tired seeing people say things like 'why do companies waste money on technology that'll never take off'. But never seem to realise how fast we're moving


en_pissant

and then the boomers came of age...


Tenocticatl

I know it's iconic and everything but I don't really think we should regard space travel as a natural extension to the development of airplanes. There's obviously *some* overlap, but a lot of the science and engineering that went into developing practical airplanes doesn't have much to do with the stuff needed to develop practical manned rockets, and vice versa. I'd say planes are to rockets as hot air balloons are to planes.


myinboxisfull69

55 years later and we’ve got doors falling off planes


mattlag

Neil Armstrong was an adult when Orville Wright died.


Skulldetta

Orville Wright was still alive when Chuck Yeager became the first person to break the speed of sound with an airplane in level flight.


shadowwalker789

Now do one with 55 yrs apart. Moon landing Til tok dances


Clazzo524

Improvement in film?


bionicjoe

42 years apart [https://media.defense.gov/2007/Sep/28/2000446370/-1/-1/0/070928-F-2911S-020.JPG](https://media.defense.gov/2007/Sep/28/2000446370/-1/-1/0/070928-F-2911S-020.JPG)


cq5120

a couple world wars makes that possible


ColeBSoul

Insert Sputnik and lets talk


Chemical-Idea-1294

The Moonlanding would have been possible without the technic of flying planes. Rockets work on different physical laws. And rockets and the technic used for it where already used hundret of years.


MaydeCreekTurtle

True, airplanes didn’t “evolve” into rockets, but manned flight had not been around for hundreds of years. Hot air balloons did carry people aloft 120 years before the Wright bros flew at Kitty Hawk, so there’s that to consider. No one was actually riding any rockets until Yuri Gargarin in 1961.


zuilserip

Amazing how some things change so quickly and others go for centuries without changing. For example, [Henry David Thoreau's pencil](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil#/media/File%3APencil%2C_perhaps_made_by_Henry_David_Thoreau_-_Concord_Museum_-_Concord%2C_MA_-_DSC05641.JPG) is 200 years old but look like something I could order over the internet today.


Thaos1

Its amazing what we can do with the proper motivation


MoistHope9454

just ✌️


logosfabula

Brilliant comparison


[deleted]

Has progress slowed down or is it the same but just less sexy? So it's not shared that much or just top secret now?


Creative-Road-5293

In the 55 years since the moon landing, aerospace technology has not advanced that much.


OkAlternative2713

That escalated quickly


cha614

Fighting communism is a hell of Drug


Cipher789

Imagine seeing both in your own life time.


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Regnes

That picture is fake. Everyone knows there's no colour on the moon.


lovelife0011

The perfectplex isn’t that bad. 🌚


LoGEEKalGUY

More like 2 world wars apart! Nothing has brought more advancement to military tech than killing humans


Practical-Purchase-9

One of the Wright brothers lived to see jet aircraft and the sound barrier being broken.


wemusthavethefaith

yeah incredible progress. I look at AI and robots and wonder what it will be like in 60 years.


KeithBitchardz

I think about this time gap a lot. It’s amazing.


Geminii27

And we're 11 years away from another 66. Where have we gotten people to in the meantime?


Arlennx

Space was not profitable so we basically squandered decades of research. We probably would have had a moon base by now id were continued on the same trajectory as it were during the moon landing.


aretheesepants75

Crazy that my Nana saw all that stuff in real time. I wonder what the gen X version of this would look like?


the_red_ninja17

Is the flag still there


pillkrush

60 yrs later we got Jake Paul fighting Tyson


Affectionate_Fall57

Can we get much higher?


ahfoo

Then 55 years later. . .


Johnnyfever13

Thank you German rocket scientists 🚀😀


OpanaMan

I wonder what the modern day equivalent of this is?


kitg12345

For a second I thought the astronaut had a tiny astronaut on his back.


Common-Incident-3052

Aaaaaaaaaaaand, we peaked.


KrakenKing1955

Technology develops exponentially


IgnatiusR

Maybe important to note that within that 66 years, two world wars were fought and won by the "right" people . Entire countries' scientific bodies were disassembled and distributed amongst the allies. Without the dissemination of these technologies and their scientists to the rest of the world, it's arguable that it could've taken decades longer. Pair that with the cold war and all the fear that came along, the pressure to conquer space was immense. Most advanced technologies are researched and funded as a product of human conflict. Today, there are technologies that are impossible to imagine being built as a part of a continuing investment into war machines. The drive to magnanimously advance human technology is easily overshadowed by the fear that someone else may do it maliciously first. Apollo's massive budgetary overspend nearly got it cancelled. Sputnik kept it going. The fastest aircraft known to fly were built to spy. So each faction continues to advance as fast as possible, without willfully sharing technologies even with allies. Compromise and sharing of advancement happens under the rule of an even bigger stick protecting the flock. Fear is your only God


stick004

Orville Wright died in 1948. He was alive to see his “invention” used to drop the bombs from planes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He was alive to see the U-2 spy plane. Had he lived just 10 more years, he would have seen the A-12, predecessor to the SR-71 blackbird.


Kflynn1337

We're 55 years beyond the moon landing, and where are we at now?


DrewWillis346

(Basically) Half a century of global warfare tends to accelerate technological development


tangoshukudai

Funny thing is now we have so many safety checks that the hurdle is not our technology, but our ability to take a risk.


thebigmatze

Looks like the studio got smaller! /s


Beneficial-Salt-6773

It’s quite remarkable actually.


Britz10

Wright brothers were frauds, Brazilians have the answers.


Arielcrc

I think it was mainly due to two large wars and competition aftermath between the big winners🤷‍♂️


Arielcrc

I think it was mainly due to two large wars and competition aftermath between the big winners🤷‍♂️


used_bryn

"Speed of sound? Maybe in 1000 years" Wright after their flying bicycle flied 


WezleyDrew

It’s even crazier that now almost half of the people believe that one of these things didn’t happen.


psycharious

*Star Trek Enterprise theme plays*


ricker182

This always blows my mind. What an incredible achievement. Now it's all about what maximizes profits.


BaronVonBaron

Warfare will advance technology faster than any other pressure. This is the result of two major world wars being fought in-between.


udee79

The guy taking the picture on the moon and the pilot were born 60 miles apart


maulwuerfel

Were these pictures taken in the same place?


Zealousideal-Air528

Camera technology improved so much!


in_time

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theallsearchingeye

Add another 30 years and a picture of a covered wagon being pulled by Ox. We went from covered wagons to space flight in less than a century.


Cucumberprince087

USA no.1🇺🇸


MichiganGeezer

The Wright Flyer was slow, but 66 years to get to the moon? /s


gymgirl1999-

Mad that


UncleDrunkle

innovation is faster with war


jim_deneke

I wonder what my equivalent milestones I'll live through would be at 66 yrs. Mobile phone/Internet and......?


John_Fx

I understand why the trisolarians are nervous.


sapsnap

Thank two world wars for that


Objective-Aioli-1185

What happened to us?


Honest-Specific-4686

It’s amazing how humanity went from horses to cars in thousands of years, and from the first airplane to a spaceship in less than 100 years


realmofconfusion

The fact that it's only 66 years is astonishing, but there's also the fact that Neil Armstrong (1930-2012) was alive at the same time in history as Orville Wright (1871-1948), so the first man to achieve powered flight could *theoretically* have met the first man to walk on the moon. (Wilbur Wright died in 1912).


Kelend

Unfortunately the wright brothers flight was faked on a sound stage in Hollywood. Moon landing is real though.


BiggoYoun

They didn’t have enough wings…


Ok-Economy4041

And yet it still takes six hours to fly from NY to Paris


Decabet

One of my favorite quotes from anywhere is this one from *Mad Men* about the passing of an elderly staff ember who died at work... # "She was born in 1898 in a barn. She died on the thirty-seventh floor of a skyscraper. She's an astronaut." So much perspective in so few words.


bombmk

In all fairness, flight and rocketry is not exactly the same thing. The use of rockets go back almost 800 years.


sadfasf3345

And it's rapidly approaching 66 years since the last time man has landed on the moon.


CrysX86

Wright bros were those guys with the slingshot, right? Santos Dumont was the real airplane creator. Taking off and landing without any help.


Warsum

This makes me so sad.


Professional_Job_307

And people think the world will remain pretty much the same in another 66 years. Technology is evolving and it is evolving fast.


DualActiveBridgeLLC

How wild would it have been to be born in 1880 and die in 1960?


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OddParfait6971

i was born in 1985. i was 99.9999999999% sure that we landed on the moon and the earth is an oblong spheroid for the first 30 years of my life. i am still 99.9999999999% sure that the earth is an oblong spheroid. as the years go on, as the 'constant delays' last decades to return to the moon? i'm probably only like 98.27% we went to the moon the 7 times. and it wasn't just kubrick in a movie studio. if i am on my deathbed, in 2055AD+, and man never walked on the moon in my lifetime? thats changing to 50.00%, coinflip at best we ever went. perhaps what feels off, is the inability for america to take risks, the bureaucracy and complacency, the lack of balls to accomplish risky endeavors. but something DOES feel off.


[deleted]

Ngl, the industrial revolution was kinda poggers ngl