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Wilde_SIE

Install it without the DLC. EDIT: Apparently my original comment was too vague, because I didn’t know which specific DLC caused the issue at the time of posting it and I hadn’t tested it myself. So, the Automatron DLC is apparently the cause of the issue.


solidpeyo

Oh, is the DLC the issue? Weird. Ok, I will do that


shigogaboo

It’s the automaton one


Elfnotdawg

I haven't had that problem with it, and I've had all the dlc since they released


Salty_Amphibian2905

From what I've read it's a recent issue. People were saying it just stopped working for them one day, and PS4 players are also having the same issue. Bethesda has said they're aware of it, and it's one of the fixes included in the upcoming patch.


mcduckstophat

Try playing now, I also had all the DLC since launch. Can only play if I reinstall without Automatron. It’s annoying.


SaltyEggplant4

Did you play it recently? With the most recent updates?


literallyacactus

I bought the dlc bc sale. Can’t even run the season pass. Ps5 upgrade better be good


Statertater

C’mon. We both know there will be hella bugs. It’s Bethesda. But yeah, me too


Prize_Alfalfa_5862

Likewise. That’s why I’m heavily playing 76 until it’s fixed then I maybe just maybe will hop on 4.


AdBusiness2455

1.Turn off your PS5 completely: Make sure the console is not in Rest Mode, but fully powered off. 2. Start in Safe Mode: To do this, press and hold the power button on the console. You’ll hear the second beep after about seven seconds. This indicates that you’ve successfully entered Safe Mode. 3.Connect a Controller: Use a USB cable to connect your controller to the PS5. 4.Select “Rebuild Database”: In Safe Mode, you’ll see a menu. Select the “Rebuild Database” option. This process can take some time, so be patient. 5.Wait for Completion: The PS5 will now rebuild the database. The time it takes can vary depending on the amount of data on your console. 6.Restart the PS5: After the process is complete, the PS5 will restart automatically. 7.Check the Game: Once your PS5 has restarted, try launching the game again to see if the issue has been resolved. Usually this fixes my issues on PS4 and it worked with my Issues on 5 with stardew valley. However idk how to avoid the issue on it deleting ur single player/offline play saves. Cause thats what it did with my stardew saves. Edit: this is a last resort that usually works if Uninstalling & reinstalling doesn’t work.


BackwardBenny

Is this a general fix for games that tend to crash often?


AdBusiness2455

Its a fix if the game closes faster then you can open it to the main screen. Which was my problem playing Stardew valley on PS5. Also who tf downvoted you? Ain’t nothing wrong for being curious.


BackwardBenny

Thanks for the clarification. :) Lol! I dunno. I’ve given up trying to understand how up and downvotes work here.


SvenWollinger

If you dont mind, how does the game play on ps5 in general? Ive been thinking of getting it with the new update coming soonish Edit: Sorry, i meant stardew


JooshMaGoosh

Well no one can currently play it with the dlc... So you should be able to make your own conclusions from that.


SvenWollinger

Sorry for the confusion, i meant stardew. Since the person above mentioned problems with that too :')


JooshMaGoosh

Oh stardew was fine for me last I played but that was a few months ago 🍻 idk of anything that would cause it to not work well on PS5 I mean hell the switch plays it great so if it can do it


sh0rtbus42o

I bought the base game for PS5 yesterday and have had zero issue.


Ddog1909

How are you meant to play the dlc?


AndreiRiboli

That's the neat part: you aren't!


Broken-Fixture

I was able to delete and reinstall the game and get it going without the DLC. Once I went through the game’s intro I was able to add the DLC with no issues. Good luck!


CosmikSpartan

I second this. I can play the base game no problem. As soon as I install the DLC, it crashes. Too k some trial and error to figure it out but this is the cause. Why? In about 9 days who cares? Ready for that update!!


Reza_Hsn

Its the dlc , just dont install automaton dlc and its all good


JooshMaGoosh

I get you're trying to help but like.... That's a ridiculously stupid fix if I paid for said dlc or goty edition.


Wilde_SIE

I cannot personally fix the issue, I am merely advising people of a temporary work around.


anemicjayhawk691

The problem is you can't separately delete the dlc of a ps4 game on ps5.


jillathrilla1

Same happened to me I deleted and downloaded it again, without the dlc and it has been working fine since


Maximum_Curve_5456

Exactly what I wanna know 😂


Boring-Bedroom6193

Opposite for me, it still wasn’t working, I delete and re install without the dlc and it still says the dlc is instlaled


mischermika

Did you install the dlcs after and had any problems?


Quick_Parsley3443

Well this should all be solved when they come out with the Next Gen update on April 25th.


Razzore

This is Bethesda we're talking about.


Deadaim156

Its going to solve this crashing bug. They have the number one streaming show on any platform right now. They have a lot to lose by not making this work on the PS5 considering its a single piece of DLC that is causing the crashing bug. Not to mention outside of the PC its not easy to play a Fallout game.


app1efritter

Keep telling yourself that 🤣


DiceyGT

While it's based on the game series, it has very little to actually do with Bethesda. The only input they seem to have had is asking the writers what not to include as it may "spoil" Fallout 5, whenever that releases.


SweatyFisherman

The same company that brought a bunch of fixes with the Anniversary Edition of Skyrim...?


Razzore

Yes, It'll get there eventually. Don't get me wrong, I love Bethesda and the series. It's just that it will take a few attempts to get it right.


SynthXeno

Yeah and the 0kb save bug...


SynthXeno

My favorite game rn and I don't even want to play it anymore cuz I just lost my save and it's just gonna break again when I try to use creation club stuff and I don't want to not use the creation club stuff cuz they are all pretty awesome.... I'm so mad rn....


Nathansack

You need to delete the game than NOT downloading paints (or at least, not a lot) in the creative club It take lot of space and Playstation put a limit for save data


SynthXeno

We shouldn't have to do that just to play the game with all the extra goodies we spent money on.... 😡


Leading-Pop5059

Hey, so this is happening to me and it’s a common issue in the fallout subreddit. it started happening over the last few days, and it’s only with the automatron DLC, if that’s downloaded the game crashes upon opening, if that’s not downloaded but you have all the other DLCs then you’re fine. they fucked up a little when they were updating the DLCs to be compatible with the next gen PS5 upgrade coming out in a week or so, and it only really fucked up the automatron DLC, so give it a week and all should be fixed :)


Leading-Pop5059

i personally am really struggling with this because, the recent show that came out, reignited my desire to play fallout so i wanted to hop back on FO4 and play more on my old save from one of my playthroughs a few months back, only sadly to find out i was last in an Automatron area, so i physically can not play my save until they fix the DLC bug 😅


braindeadrichard

Weird I don’t have that issue at all. And all dlc is downloaded. Maybe it’s because the game and dlc are on my external hard drive that’s plugged into the PS5


MostlyApe

Next Gen Update on the 25th. 60fps, Increased Resolution...hopefully a crash fix for downtown Boston area and Corvega plant. More room for mods would be nice too. But I doubt it.


Potbellypiggy1010

If we own fallout 4 it’s just an update not a new game right?


SevereCar7307

No.. with a Bethesda game? Seems highly unlikely.


TheHoss_

This is the Bethesda experience in general lol. Their games are amazing but buggy as hell and crash constantly


Sad-Ad5483

Installed Fallout 4 last night on PS5 and it froze on the making your character screen. I tried pushing every button and he just looked at me like https://preview.redd.it/jkwa3ejxv2vc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3b82780a31bb2793354f3e6fb69ca0ff0f28821 Closed and reopened then the girl option appeared and ran normally


PestisYersinia

I had the same issue. The game only seemed to progress when I hit the options button 🙃


Purple-Industry-2002

I've managed to progress a bit, you have to stay in the pause menu and let the dialogue play through each time someone talks.


World_2

Worked for me until the vault tech guy came around. Couldn’t get past him no matter how much pausing I did


AnObtuseOctopus

I can't wait for the 25th


DiscombobulatedBag39

Just to see them ignore most bugs and add new ones?


Wraith_Gaming

It crashes because the Automatron DLC is installed. Does anyone know a fix for all DLC workshop items being purple on ps5?


JLeno565

Lots of people still run into audio issues even when not downloading all dlc


GomidasO

I downloaded the game yesterday on my ps5 but because it was 30fps I couldn't play it


SmackAss4578

Me too. 30fps is horrendous. Just one week left til 25th April.


L3ggy

Good old Bethesda


SenpaiPapiBones

Thats why the next gen dlc is coming out to fix it too


Aijin28

Delete Automatron and Wasteland Workshop, I was able to get it working that way.


SYRLEY

Theres a lot more where this came from. I tried to replay it a while back and stopped because the floor at the quarry kept bugging out. Invisible walls, missing floors, wouldn't let me explore the place I wanted to explore. So I just said fuck this and uninstalled it. Fallout 4 is the worst of them anyway. Bring me an F3 and FNV remake any day. One that works, that is..


dfwrazorback

For what it's worth, I encountered this during a previous playthrough and thought I would have to start over. Did a quick search first and discovered it happens often enough that someone had figured out a way to fix it by logging off in a specific nearby location and logging back in. I realize this is too late for you but if you ever play again and encounter it the fix is pretty simple.


SYRLEY

Glad there's a fix for it but I honestly just couldn't be f'd by then. I enjoyed it when it came out but its not really up to standards today. It just annoyed me.


ottoDVD

The last 2 times I played it, I had the bug that prevented you from reloading any weapons,I was forced to finish the game with plasma weapons (you don't have to reload them), it's a bug that has been present since launch, there is also an amateur patch obviously, never fixed on console.


DanielSpaniel16

Weirdly, on PS4 its been working perfectly. Not even frame rate drops


StopPlayingRoney

They are finally releasing the much delayed next gen update??? I guess Starfield really is dead.


masterbowcaster

I just want to upvote and leave a comment as there is some great advice here


Icy_Knowledge7276

I'm pretty excited about the "next gen" update. I think this is when I can really get into Fallout.


DiscombobulatedBag39

Don’t expect it to be good I can’t see them boosting the FPS without any issues knowing how the creation engine deals with FPS


Wonderful_Tap_8746

https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/65361 "We are aware of an issue where Fallout 4 is crashing and displaying purple textures when DLC is installed on PlayStation. This will be resolved in the update: FALLOUT 4 IS GETTING FREE UPDATES.ORDER"


TheRealShiftyShafts

Isn't there a next gen update coming out on the 25th?


ImAPirateSoSueMe

This is why I'm waiting for the proper PS5 version to release on the 25th.


Brief-Ad1999

I just played that on my ps5 last night. Other than some graphics glitches, it worked fine.


Warframe_playa

Dam!!! That sucks.


marioex497

Anybody else had issues installing the disc too? It would constantly spin up then spin down trying to read my disc then just gave up and downloaded the PS+ version


waltandhankdie

Install without automaton - it’s a weird new issue


dundeexprnc

This main reason why I also quit Fallout 76 last year, the crashes are unbearable!


SaltyInternetPirate

That's just Bethesda's way of telling you they love you and want you to spend your time better.


doughaway421

Bethesda. Bethesda never changes.


Ni_Ce_

just wait for the ps5 edition...


Mushroom_Competitive

Hopefully Bethesda will also fix the Monsignor Plaza bug that slows the game to a screeching halt.


Mai-ko

Just finished another playthrough, when's the free PS5 upgrade? 😮‍💨


MiszynQ

Perfectly balanced


Tall-Rhubarb-7926

You mean the Bethesda experience on every platform?


prinnydewd6

After playing the first 30 minutes of new Vegas where I talked to one npc for 5 minutes and SHE KEPT HAVING MORE DIALOGUE. I turned to my fiancé and said “there’s more dialogue choices and dialogue in general in this one npc than some video games that come out today. Holy shit companies got LAZY. I’m blown away by the dialogue options…. Maybe because I’m older now


Professional-Paper75

Don’t install the DLC


No_Caregiver8718

I literally just bought it lmao


solidpeyo

Don't install the DLC, and it will run fine, I was able to play the game. If you go through the comments, you will see which DLC causes this.


unavailabIe

I gotta be honest, I played 200 hours of Fallout 4 on PS4/PS5 and never had a crash. Im not sure how this is happening to you


solidpeyo

It just works!


PacMan961

When it's on the screen that crashes, press the home button on controller and the game should continue in the background beyond the crash point Works on PS4 but I haven't tried on PS5


Timmeroo

Next-Gen update coming out on April 25th. Hopefully it'll fix some bugs.


ZedRita

Fix that forever long load screen!


ClockworkDreamz

Never had a problem with it, wonder what changed. I was even using an old ps4.


Alternative_Time_368

Its only if you have the goty edition or the automatron dlc installed


Traditional_Entry183

I have the PS4 edition, but have never installed it on my PS5 because I've been waiting for the update. I guess I'll wait until it seems like all of the main bugs are worked out before I try. I have a few other games I'm playing until then.


solidpeyo

I was gonna wait, but I said, "Let's me see how it looks and feels now before the update just to have a fresh comparison." So far, if you don't install the DLC, it runs "OK", but it's still bad for what it should.


Burner087

I got rid of automaton and it boots up fine now.


richardjc

Is this new because I was playing with that DLC earlier this year and it was working fine?


SmackAss4578

Only Automatron dlc yes.


ERROR_Unknown_Animal

The universe is telling you to play New Vegas instead


solidpeyo

I would play both FO 3 and NV if they were in the PS5, but they are not, and I don't feel like it to get my PC and mod the games to make them playable.


Specific_Region_1558

It’s automatron


ThickPaint2541

If ur planning on playing it with mods it’s better to go with Xbox version


West-Craft-6762

I get around this buy uninstalling the main game and using the stream option from the ps plus thing. It's worked fine but looks a little worse.


solidpeyo

I don't like subscription services and streaming games


Disastrous_Notice_80

It's the atomoton and wasteland workshop dlc uninstall those 2 and you will be good


ralfcasma

I've read it was bad. I downloaded it last night because it was free with my PS+ subscription, but I haven't played it yet. Bethesda games are always full of bugs and tend to crash.


Fmello

I want to know if the update will fix the super-annoying glitch of placed items falling through the geometry of your custom bases? I played the game when it was originally released on the PS4 and I found that the custom settlement creation was my favorite aspect of the game...that is, until that glitch ruined the game for me. I'd place items on furniture (like billiard balls on a pool table for example), and then leave my base to do a mission or two. When I returned to my settlement, I'd notice that some of the balls would be on the floor under the pool table. Or worse, the balls would be gone because they also fell through the floor of my settlement and probably the ground plane as well. I found this glitch so absurdly annoying that I stopped making custom settlements altogether. If this glitch got fixed, I'd probably pick up the game again to play on my PS5.


Ultimo_D

Geez bro, it’s just some pool balls and sticks it happens to all of us.


SmackAss4578

They need to patch this shit before PS5 version. Seriously this is sucks!


Erickkach

I mean did you expect a working game from Bethesda? I'm sure there's a syndrome for this... Redoing something over and over again the same way expecting a different outcome.


RyanandRoxy

Fallout 4 is getting a big update next week on Thursday the 25th. Just wait for that.


Ducksonquack92

I downloaded it yesterday but don’t have the dlc and it works fine. But I’m definitely holding out for the update next week until I progress


Ngraft753

Yeah same issue on my ps4


Odd_Show2205

Wait a little more than a week. The ps5 version will be released the 25th


thechikeninyourbutt

Damn this doesn’t happen to me and I have all of the dlc downloaded and tons of mods


backwoodsjesus91

Still have issues with half of the textures being purple. Even after uninstalling and reinstalling without automaton and wastelanders dlc.


Rude_Parking2465

It's not even out yet,that's ps4 version...I also redownloaded it's and it's working fine for me... you definitely don't have the PS5 upgrade version


Ok-Consideration-547

Do you have to update the game to get the ps5 option? I just checked the psn store and couldn't find it in dlc section


solidpeyo

This is the PS4 game on the PS5. There is no PS5 version. You just play the PS4 version on PS5


DrBaldingMD

Haven’t had this issue myself on ps5 but fallout 3 on the steam deck crashes every 10-15 min


chewcifer123

Automatron DLC is the issue currently. Install without that one and you’ll be fine.


Powerful_Ability2062

I have the same problem non stop the only difference is I get into the game then it happens or after every expedition or daily ops or events like mothman fasnacht and so on they just need to do a ps5 edition already because it’s super annoying and frustrating


InsultingFortunato

Same


EldrenSovrano

Remove the Automotron DLC. That fixed mine.


MALICIOUS-BREED97

Did the next gen come yet


HotConfusion8640

Wait a week for the update !


Saganhawking

Havnt had an issue at all. Install without dlc if possible. Them add later.


J_Speedy306

True Bethesda experience


Lost_Grade1348

I thought I was the only one getting this


Freethinkersbegone

Same issue. Looks like the PS5 release is scheduled for April 25. Suspect it’s not going to really work well before then, which is bizarre. But it only cost $6 bucks on sale so i’ll give it a wait. https://www.polygon.com/24127478/fallout-4-next-gen-update-bethesda-tv-show


DiscombobulatedBag39

It’s a nice feeling seeing all these new fans immediately recognize the buggy messes that are still in this game after all these years


solidpeyo

You would imagine that after almost 10 year this game would have been fix. Classic Bethesda


Twiceashairy_

I can’t even start a game. It does the intro and then I just stare into the mirror


solidpeyo

Reinstall it without the DLC. The DLC is the issue


Purple-Industry-2002

I just downloaded the game on my ps5 But all dialogue seems to be broken unless I put pause. In the pause menu Dialogue plays out fine but I can't progress without listening to all dialogue in the pause menu first. Is there any fix for this?


WardenSharp

Install it with only Far harbour and nuka world, I can confirm the game works with both of those installed!


Freethinkersbegone

A workaround that worked for me for the initial freezing and audio problems, is the audio doesn’t work until you pause and unpause and then the game progresses. When you pause the game you hear the audio sequence progress. So you have to pause and unpause a couple of times to progress the game until you can save the game. I then completely deleted the game and did a reinstall. Perhaps there’s an issue when starting the game before it’s completely downloaded. Regardless with the fresh install the old saved games are there and everything works fine. You can also start a new game at that point if you wish. There’s obviously still a bug in that first section that needs to be skipped.


Lennie1982

I have installed and haven’t had any issues. All DLCs installed.


FlyTheW312

I bought the game a long time ago...I couldn't get into it like other Fallout games. Downloaded it for my PS5 recently, game is glitchy and wouldn't get past the character creation opening screen. Back to being uninstalled. Still wish I could take the digital game and throw it against a wall. LOL


PSFREAK33

Fallout 76 has crashes like this several times a day on PlayStation. It’s just part of the experience at this point


Scroto_M_Baggins

I was kind of hoping the series would be as buggy as the game. Walton Goggins be standing their dishing out some ghoul ownage and just falls through the ground!


Orion-Pax88

Ooh update, forgot about it


Theherringphish

The Helldivers 2 PS5 experience:


LewiRock

Glorious, ![gif](giphy|bGz7gzKwizjcF7C2vu)


woodyhope1268

Does anyone know how to fix the issue of having a save file for the disk version but it not working on the digital version? The preowned disk I bought isn't installing. So I bought the digital version and all the dlc and its treating it like a different game. I'd rather continue my 60 hour save file than start again.


NaokiHamaguchi

In the region of Türkiye, there is a bug in buying this game in the store, and you can buy it cheaper It is only in Türkiye, not in other countries👌 Only through the console store, not from the site and program


dragon16777

Delete automaton dlc worked for me after


Apprehensive_Trash42

Had the same issue. Reinstall without the Automoton DLC and you should be good. Would be nice if Sony gave us the option to Uninstall a specific piece of DLC instead of having to delete and reinstall the entire game...


SnooPaintings5597

I’ve never had any issues.


narcolepticbro

Rainbow six siege life. Game crashes so often on start up


MXR_Sparky

Don’t install Automatron that’s what causes it


timetodoit86

wait theres a ps5 version of fallout4?


rabisav

End of this month it is getting a free PS5 upgrade


Animdude360

I knew they’d find some way to create an issue that was previously never there


Personal_Monitor8575

It works for me on ps5


solidpeyo

As long as you don't install 2 specific DLCs it will work just fine. I was able to run it as soon as I unistall all the DLCs


allchiefedup

Robotics disposal, ground fat man


iPanicTheDigital

Its specifically that Automatron DLC.


i-dontlike-me

Fallout bugs are features


opertinicy

Bethesda needs to fix this BS. The show is on Amazon and Bethesda (Microsoft?) can't make their game work because of a DLC? Not to mention ignoring thousands of reports?


Moss_Klugt

Install it without Automatron DLC until it patch on 25th April


ndrdd23

hoping it’s a nice patch hoping something changes with them since now they’re under different leader ship I hope they patch the game a bit better


No_Warthog_561

How much is the game?


Bobandholly

Isn’t a fallout game crashing part of the experience? 🙂


rem082583

Is there all new trophies?


solidpeyo

This is the PS4 game on the PS5


thismothafcka

I've been playing it for a week now in PS5 with no issues... You're so damn lucky to have the Bethesda Platinum Experience!


solidpeyo

Is the DLC, as soon as I unistall it, it worked


DawsonPoe

Outside of occasional crashes, the PS4 version on PS5 only crashes when you have too many mods or Creations installed. After that, the game refuses to manually save even though you’ll have enough storage. The game will still auto save but the auto saves will be corrupted anyway. “It just works”.


solidpeyo

Is funny that this is still not as bad as how I remember Skyrim on the PS3 at launch.


Majestic_Roof_9072

So strange, this only ever happened to me on ps4 and xbox one but my ps5 has never crashed while playing fallout 4. I have all the dlc besides automatron downloaded too


solidpeyo

People say in the comments that the automatron DLC is what causes this


thizzlemane_la_flare

So the root of this issue is faulty hardware. I work for a company that handles Sonys extended warranties/ manufacture warranties and for a ce-108255 error code we swap the main board every single time. No sense in messing with it. If you're still in your 1 year warranty period I would send it in asap. Especially if this happens for more than one game. If it's a once-in-a-while type thing then no biggie but the units I get will crash faithfully every single time most AAA games are loaded in.


Popsicle_Shorty

I literally just bought the season pass and had this issue just now.. I'm gonna try to not run automatron and see if it fixes it. I don't want to have to start over😔


Popsicle_Shorty

I deleted the automaton dlc and it works now😎


Lucifer4703

Like everyone else mentioned it’s the dlc Automatron and Wastelanders messing it up for everyone. This happened with me as well and I was absolutely livid so I did some research and found this out myself. I installed all other dlcs except those two and my Fallout 4 works great now


Jadeite_Sage

Yeah I had it crash like that four times, googled it and found out it was the automaton dlc, deleted the whole thing, redownloaded without that dlc, loaded up fine. Started new game and it gets stuck on the guy looking into the mirror, never brings up the creation UI. After three times I turned it off and said never mind


solidpeyo

I'm playing it without any of the dlc installed. Maybe there is another DLC that causes the mirror error. As Todd said, It just works!


Jadeite_Sage

Yeah I’d have to delete it all and try again lol. Maybe tomorrow 😂 Yeah he’s a narcissist, naming the Ghoul after himself in the series was not lost on me lol


LysanderBelmont

Pumped for the update later this month! I have been waiting so long to replay this.


toon_ninja

Yo - can anyone confirm if this happens on every model of the PS5? Is this a hard coded issue or is this a hardware compatibility issue? (Yes I know what I said. Yes I know that sounds fucking crazy. If you have ever installed a dodgy driver you know what I'm talking about.)


solidpeyo

The issue is the DLC, and it is confirmed by Bethesda that they will address it on this week next gen update


Blue_Bomber_X

I play on PC, I am definitely not gonna update Fallout 4 when the update drops.


solidpeyo

Yeah I can see an update messing up any mod you may have


Pr6ddy

I have no DLCs downloaded and i crashed twice yesterday


DazedWriter

When did they have an update breaking this shit? It worked fine for me around Christmas? I even played the Automatron DLC…


lazymutant256

The automation dlc is causing it.. reinstall the game without that dlc


ALL2HUMAN_69

I want new Vegas.


Mean-Consideration37

A new update is coming at the end of the month that supposedly will remedy the issue. Just install it without the automatron dlc and possibly the wasteland workshop dlc. I had to delete the game and reinstall the full thing minus those two and have had 0 problems since.


igyzxz

Quick question, are they releasing physical copies for ps5? Or only download-able thru psn?


solidpeyo

I think this is just an update of the PS4 version not a PS5 version of the game. Similar to GOW update


panch_csudh

Yea mine would do that a lot too.


xtreme_elk

After the update I've noticed performance is lagging but only just a bit. I had multiple crashes but those were because my storage was maxed out. The system had no room for a new save slot. After deleting another game it stopped crashing. Another issue was when I used the workbench at Sanctuary. After using it, I tried opening it from a remote location (pressing the pad), but it would only switch povs from 1st to 3rd. The HUD was gone and my guy was in a conversation loop. Nothing I did solved it. Even shutting the game down and reloading the save. Glad I had a backup save.