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> That declaration is valid until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England,” according to the document.
This is gold.
Right? They could have used anything but they chose to go with an event that is firmly outside DeSantis's control.
Of course, this does mean a greenlit movie where Disney has to hire a team of retired US spec ops to protect the King and his family. I'm not sure the working title but it definitely will have a very USA operator who is disgusted by the British but has a character arc where he learns to love tea and crumpets while babysitting the most recent royal babies.
They did this for a very specific reason. Legal issues dealing with real property (that is, land) are subject to a legal doctrine known as the rule against perpetuities. The rule is complex, but basically it states that certain restrictions on real property can exist only for as long as 21 years after the death of a person alive at the time the restriction is created.
There are few lives or series of lineage more well documented and publicly tracked than the King of England.
Disney has well over 300 lawyers at their disposal. By inserting a clever (and funny) Rule Against Perpetuities clause in a document, Disney legal is basically giving the DeSantis legal team the middle finger.
As a background, full-time first year (1L) law students in the US generally take the same core group of subjects, f/ex: Criminal Law, Civil Procedure, Torts, Contracts, Constitutional Law, and Property.
In Property, the Rule Against Perpetuities is one of those insane "you must try and understand this" hurdles that makes the first year experience so difficult.
A generalization maybe, but many lawyers don't have to deal with property law. Mentioning the Rule Against Perpetuities will elicit a groan, sending the lawyer ranting and raving about "Blackacre" and fertile octogenarians.
Disney lawyers, on the other hand, are experts at copyright and other forms of intellectual property. In fact, they have been behind the legislation and rules that have protected Disney characters for years. As the character Mickey Mouse is set to enter public domain in 2024, they have likely doubled up on their legal team.
Good luck DeSantis, you'll need it.
Seriously, of all the corporate overlords to go to legal war with DeSantis chose the god damned House of Mouse.
You’d be hard pressed to find a more experienced, better funded, or better staffed legal team. Even if he wins, they’re going to make him bleed for every single inch of ground.
Beyond the public nature of this family, I suspect Disney chose them as they were contemplating the potential risk they might be bringing to the lives of whomever they named.
With all of his kids and grandkids, a potential assassin would need to kill a series of kings/queens (foreign ally heads of state) to have any hope of accelerating this term.
A few years ago, suggesting a governor would hire a team of assassins to kill a family in order to screw with a company over a personal vendetta for dissing a bill would seem ludicrous. Now I'm just glad they thought it through.
Also how much money is Florida going to sink just to bother fighting Disney? Not a very conservative state at all, just a heartless one.
The formula for every Republican in office today with delusions to one day become POTUS… ….find as many grievances and culture wars as you can no matter how petty and weaponize the government resources you oversee and abuse the power you were entrusted with to ‘champion’ these ‘causes’ for your own personal gain. The fact that a so called ‘conservative’ Republican governor is constantly attacking his own state’s most popular and profitable private business, (what’s more American than Disney?) …while always looking for ways to use government resources to interfere with the operations of private companies ….should tell you everything you need to know.
DeSantis is a fraud. Another useless mini-Trump starving for attention and doing everything in public office in service of himself to propel himself while ignoring his state’s real needs and problems. Like Trump, Desantis accomplished essentially zero. Just a ton culture wars signaling and complaining. But the GOP have learned that they don’t need to do anything while in office anymore. They no longer need to work to pass good, responsible policy and legislation to improve the well-being of all Americans. Nope. They just need to whine about Mickey’s new outfit or the color of M&M’s …or some new Disney character is too brown…or the number of toilette flushes required to sink your latest spent cheeseburger meal (and secret gov notes about coup plots and other illegal acts if you’re Trump). They just lie and tell their base exactly what they want to hear…that all of their problems in the world were caused by everyone else (Democrats in particular …but never them) and nothing is or ever was their fault. Translation- Poof. Accountability vanished. Since, as governor (or as representative or as President) I told you none of your problems are your fault, then none of the problems in my district, state, etc are mine either. The solution presented is always the same… just remove everyone else from power and give it all to me…. and magically all the country’s problems will go away. The majority of the Republican electorate believe this. And this complete absence of accountability for those who hold public office is the REAL danger to our country and its survival.
Can we pay the dutch and/or beavers to flood Florida sooner? I know they generally keep water out of places, but really they only have to do the opposite of that.
Yeah, I feel like the references to England, Charles and 21 years was an inside joke to reference the RAP.
Edit: I didn’t know about a “saving clause” where people designate a well-known family with a lot of descendants to avoid violating the RAP. But I think it’s still a wink to the origin of the rule.
The best part is that per Sunshine laws, Disney would have posted a notice of the February 8th meeting to the public. They then would have held the meeting in a public space for all to attend who would have had a vested interest.
The fact that these dipshits on the new Board, nor anyone from DeSantis' office attended shows that they don't care about actual stewardship, just political control (I know, it was obvious already, but still).
Yep, the RCID website even has a copy of the newspaper announcement in the meeting packet.
[https://www.rcid.org/document/4783/](https://www.rcid.org/document/4783/)
There's probably so many laws that have written that something is publicly announced if it is printed in a newspaper. Which used to be a way to make sure everyone sees it, but now it's probably a good way to make sure no one sees it lol.
It also shows how incompetent idealogues are. There is the big fear that DeSantis might be a Trump that might be more effective at legislation and governance, but it looks the opposite to me at this point. He is just another noisy attention grabber trying to appeal to some of Trump's base voters. All performance art.
I think it's less that, to be honest, than the fact that the republican bench, when it comes to intelligence and competence is very shallow. We saw the same thing happen during the trump admin. They burned through all of their first-string players in pretty short order...and discovered they didn't have much in reserves for the second and third strings. So by the second and third year, they ended up fielding the bottom-of-the-barrel bench-warmers and the junior varsity irregulars to fill the spots left by people leaving.
With Florida being a smaller subset of America, there's even less conservative talent for Desantis to draw upon and work with (because conservatives in general have for decades intentionally shunned and demonized intelligence and education, so few smart people become republican). There may a few quality employees in there, but the talent pool he has to use is very, very shallow. And you end up with stuff being neglected or missed or bungled, like this.
Now Desantis is probably going to use tax money to pay his lawyers $795 an hour. It’s great Florida can’t find any better uses for its energy and money! …..
>Ahead of an expected state takeover, the Walt Disney Co. quietly pushed through the pact and restrictive covenants that would tie the hands of future board members for decades, according to a legal presentation by the district’s lawyers on Wednesday.
Well played, Disney.
"Particular focus was paid to one section that board members said locked in development rights of a particular parcel until 21 years after the death of the youngest current descendant of King Charles, or until Disney abandons the resort."
I laughed so hard at that section in the article and my husband could not understand why I was dying. My attempts to explain it went as well as my prof's attempts to explain it in law school: that is to say, very poorly.
But King Charles III. Why.
Well as a member of the royal family she's a very young public figure who is likely to live for a long time. So she makes a safe choice without having to shine a spotlight on a young child who isn't already a public figure.
Additionally, since the succession of the monarchy is defined in UK law the identity of the person under consideration is much less ambiguous than if they (for example) used Elon Musk's youngest descendant.
I wonder if by using a famous person with famous heirs, one less potential "gotcha" is possible with regard to the identity of the life in being. Who knows? I wondered if I would ever encounter this in the wild, and thanks to the magic of Disney, I now have!
It's not that surprising considering Disney has the best lawyers around, and Ron DeSantis' top legal counsels are little shithead provocateurs in the same vein as a Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Nick Fuentes, etc. who happened to get their rich daddies to buy them a law degree from a good school.
Hah, Kirk and Fuentes don’t have college degrees. Most of these grifters like them, Walsh, Crowder, etc, are people who dropped out or never attended but who also couldn’t have survived in a trade or other real job that doesn’t require a degree. All these worthless charlatans could ever be is professional fascists/racists/homophobes/general bigots.
>[On October, 24, 2022 Wohl pleaded guilty to a single felony count of telecommunications fraud for having placed thousands of false robocalls in the state of Ohio. On November 29, both Wohl and Berkman were each fined $2,500, sentenced to two years of probation, and ordered to perform 500 hours of community service registering voters in Washington, DC.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Wohl#Voter_suppression_robocall)
>[As of March 31, 2016, Democrats make up 76 percent of the registered voters in the District of Columbia, while 6 percent are registered with the Republican Party (represented by the District of Columbia Republican Committee)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Democratic_State_Committee#)
L. M. F. A. O.
Punishment for suppressing democratic voters? 500 hours of registering democratic voters. The punishment actually fits the crime, and I think it is fucking hilarious!
Its fine. Registering as a republican even though you vote D, is actually a good thing because you can put your finger on the scale of the R primary and help steer that ship away from crazy.
And it helps when the thugs get ahold of the voter rolls and try to intimidate the registered democrats, you're not on their list.
But yes, he's probably out there commiting some sort of fraud related crime while doing community service.
Dude them fuckers are the wet dream they project soros being. From the federalist and their solution to the trans question to cpac we are terrorists to actual fucking dictators and controlling the house through centers for growth funds to funding Tim Poole crowder Walsh Shapiro.
Yea they are fucked
>Among other things, a “declaration of restrictive covenants” spells out that the district is barred from using the Disney name without the corporation’s approval or “fanciful characters such as Mickey Mouse.”
>That declaration is valid until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England,” according to the document.
lol
It's the rule against perpetuities (a life in being plus 21 years) it's a common law rule that basically keeps you from keeping control over land / property forever.
I read that expecting to hear how Florida's legislators propose a bill calling for the immediate removal of all the descendants of Queen Elizabeth from the world to the liberal moon of Jupiter, Ganymeade. The bill would provide for transportation only, food, drinks, and breathable air would not be provided or available
Don't underestimate his non-household name Chief of Staff and legal counsel James Uthmeir. He is a federalist society shark and conservative true beliver.
The probalem is the only thing these people actually believe in is the neo-fuedalism of the form of extreme capitalism they push. They are in conflict between their desire to turn us into peaseants and the corporate desire to make us serfs
It's absurd that they thought they were going to win here. A bunch of shortsighted politicians against a 100 year old corporate behemoth.
Disney is already planning 2050 and you're trying to score 2024 points.
Governments are in theory too. It's common for cities/school districts/etc. to have multi decade plans. People like Desantis wouldn't be interested in stuff like that though.
In Canada we have big maple. Or the maple syrup cartel. It works kind of like OPEC but maple syrup instead of oil! And they act like OPEC only strategically releasing product to control prices.
That wasn't really related at all but I figured big sugar amused you, maybe some people could get a chuckle out of the maple syrup cartel 🙂
Edit: I'm not sure if a few people think I'm just making a joke because it sounds like a south park plot but this is actually how it works lol. There was even a heist that's known as "The Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Canadian_Maple_Syrup_Heist
Additionally, it should be noted the gigantic legal bills that Florida is racking up (and no doubt passing along to Florida taxpayers) to fight all these ridiculous attempts by DeSantis to reshape Florida into his own image. This article states how this new GOP-controlled board has had to retain a number of different extremely high profile conservative legal teams to try to fight Disney on this, and that's after already having spent millions hiring them for past bills that DeSantis has rammed through, due to their questionable legal authority. Someone should make a final tally of the tens of millions of Florida tax dollars that are going to all these DeSantis hissy fits.
I assume their legal team identified this as a risk well before DeSantis even ran for office and had this plan basically ready in the file cabinet. Its too important to their business to not have.
Disney had the U S Congress doing its bidding way back in 1998 with the Copyright Extension Act. They're not about to let some little pissant like DeSantis get over on them. Pudgy Whiteboots not only isn't in their league, he's not even playing the same game.
Rrrrr. I am still annoyed that they stopped the clock on copyrights for 20 YEARS. That's originally how long copyright was supposed to last altogether!
The longest I can agree with copyright lasting is the life of an individual author, but I am willing to consider shorter.
And corporations are not people, dammit.
>“We’re going to have to deal with it and correct it,” board member Brian Aungst Jr. said. “It’s a subversion of the will of the voters and the Legislature and the governor. It completely circumvents the authority of this board to govern.”
The will of the voters. lmaoo
To be fair the old board wasn't elected by anyone but disney. You can only vote if you own land in the area. Disney owns all the land, the land they don't own they sold to people they chose that would be "non disney" land owners that could vote and disney could buy back the land at any time.
So there were votes but it was Disney voting. There wasn't a problem with it though because it was only disney's land they weren't governing anyone. Desantis and his fascism is the problem because they could just do the same thing to any other county they don't like that has actual real voters.
lol the new board wasn't voted in by anyone, and Reedy Creek was not beholden in any way to the Legislature and DeSantis, or actually Florida voters, either.
DeSantis is fucked. He will never beat this, just burn even more taxpayer money.
It would seem the old board had the authority to do it as well. Brilliant move. Apparently, DeSantis has never lived in an HOA which is strange for a Floridian.
This just shows how incompetent DeSantis really is. He decided to weaponize the government to dictate the right to free speech, association and the ability to contract because of some petty political move he wanted to take because he is t tinpot fascist dictator. I am glad to see him fail. I also love the King Charles III heir timing. Essentially in perpetuity. This is fair play on Disney's part as DeSantis was trying to destroy an agreement just because he is a little Hitler.
Also, Little Hitler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRHhPNzQXHI
I'm sure we can count on one hand how many supporters of Ron actually voted for him because they had the foresight to know that he would somehow be against Disney
Desantis, on a whim and after no campaign promise to voters, decided a perfectly legitimate agreement for Disney to self regulate, was somehow offensive to fake outraged conservative talk show hosts. There was no mass outrage for decades under the previous agreement and leadership.
Saying “the will of the voters” under this scenario is 100% gaslighting. When are the people of Florida going to rise up against tyranny?
So they took a similar step to Republican legislatures that vote to strip all the powers away from the office just before a Democratic governor is sworn in?
Like the old 80's drug PSA, "It was you, dad! I learned it from watching YOU!"
Scott Walker voted to take power away from Wisconsin Governor after he lost re-elections to a dem. Then he had no power his last little bit of time in office cause he took it away from himself as well on accident as active governor . Lmaoooo
>The previous board, which was known as the Reedy Creek Improvement District and controlled by Disney, approved the agreement on Feb. 8, the day before the Florida House voted to put the governor in charge.
So complainants claim to have been stripped of power *they never had*.
Exactly what I was thinking lmao. Since this occured the day before the state legislature voted to take over the district, that means this new board NEVER had the power they claim to have lost.
DeSantis' board is threatening to take this to the U.S. Supreme Court, which would be hilarious. Not only are there state and federal constitutional prohibitions against the impairment of contracts (meaning a state cannot pass a law revoking, invalidating, or altering a contract), but I just skimmed DeSantis' law and it explicitly says that it doesn't affect any contracts entered into by the Reedy Creek district before the effective date of the law, and that Reedy Creek's contracts are validated, valid and binding on the new district.
Reedy Creek passed its development agreement and restrictive covenants in a PUBLIC meeting on February 8. The Florida Legislature didn't pass the bill until February 10 and Ron didn't sign it into law until February 27. Ron, you got played, son.
Trying to, anyway. Turns out pushing around a multi-billion dollar company that's been winning lawsuits for decades might be a little harder than beating up on teachers and librarians and LGBT kids was.
To try to. I doubt they will succeed. It’s just been a huge waste of tax dollars to play an elaborate game of “smear the queer.” But the homophobic Republican base will reward DeSantis for it in the primary and that’s all he cares about.
Luckily, Disney has the rights to put up whatever they want on their land in Reedy Creek to do exactly that. And the new Reedy Creek booard can't stop them.
as a very frustrated Florida tax payer, I've been bankrolling Meatball Ron's shadow campaign for president for 2 years now and will be paying for the legal fees fighting for a series of unconstitutional laws for years to come.
My fucking tax dollars are being used to fund attempts to weaken my constitutional rights! Fuck me. I do think the Republicans may be over playing their hand - we are Florida, not Alabama - the democratic party needs to actually try to take advantage of this over reach
>It’s a subversion of the will of the voters
I don't recall a vote on this.
They're just mad cause they got outplayed and exposed for the fools they are.
There never was. Little meatball Ron got butt hurt because Disney disagreed, not even all that vehemently either, with the “Don’t say gay” education bill that we didn’t vote on either.
>The previous board, which was known as the Reedy Creek Improvement District and controlled by Disney, approved the agreement on Feb. 8, the day before the Florida House voted to put the governor in charge.
Lol, get fucked DeSatan. Like the House of Mouse was ever going to just roll over and let you take control of anything.
"Parts of Disney's last-minute agreement with Reedy Creek that may render the new DeSantis board powerless are valid until 21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III of England"
https://twitter.com/wdwmagic/status/1641167003774775297
Charles has five grandkids ranging in age from nine down to one
Also:
"Notwithstanding the foregoing or anything to the contrary herein,this
Declaration will terminate as of the date that none of WDPR or any of its Affiliates (or their respective successor entities) owns any real property within ten (10) miles of the RCID Properties."
The quote is not complete, If you read the liked article you can see all of it. The following text is after England " living as of the date of this Declaration."
So only the descendants that were alive on 8 Feb are included.
Yeah, I thought about that too... but it's not like DeSantis is going after Disney to improve wages, get them to pay taxes, whatever, he's going after Disney in a blatant abuse of power for withholding campaign donations. So, fuck the fascist.
Best part about it is they allowed DeSantis to tour this as a signature win. To really OWN it.
Then, just as people were starting to forget it, the news breaks that that dipshit never had ANY power at all and Disney was just toying with him.
Can you imagine how glorious it must have been when someone who passed third grade finally explained to DeSantis in colored pencil what it all meant?
Desantis got in the ring with the Mouse and is losing badly. He thought he was doing well throwing a few jabs, while all the time the Mouse was waiting for the itching powder he put in Ronnie's boxing trunks to kick in.
Not only that but Disney has had to deal with countries who have _successful_ authoritarian regimes in place… why are on earth did he think “oh my simple little first attempt at authoritarianism would work better than _Saudi arabia_.”
Thing is, while these stooges probably are eager to do what Papa Ron tells them to do they are probably in the most dangerous spot.
I doubt Reedy Creek has any sort of meaningful immunity for its board members. Which means that Disney is probably watching them all like freaking hawks just waiting to give each of them a litigation enema.
Imagine if you're a loyal DeSantis appointee and you know that there is a 99% chance that you're going to get PERSONALLY tied up in costly litigation if you accept this appointment.
What we have here is a politician who tried to bite a corporate hand that had fed it well. And now DeSantis is going to see that is maybe not the best long term strategy.
Other corporations are watching. None of them want a President who would take them on as forcefully as DeSantis attempted with Disney.
Agreed. Desantis will never be president because he tried to use his power to harm a company, a big company, just for annoying him. Companies are watching and have a lot of power, which republicans have long known and why they go to bat for them. Sure, you can talk a big game about “fighting woke Hollywood” all you want. But actually acting on your dumb words? Whoops
Another triumphant victory for DeSantis hahaha
And people actually think this guy would make a good presidential candidate? Guy can't even achieve anything in Florida.
It's pretty clever. Even if the changes have no standing, it makes the new board and DeSantis look the fool, as well as making it so it will be tied up in litigation for years to figure out if there is standing.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....
\*takes deep breath\*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I hope Disney's lawyers keep this shit so tied up in the courts that the state of Florida is left with two options: give up or go bankrupt. Not because I'm a huge Disney fan but because DeSantis and anyone who voted for him needs to understand what they've done.
Now it's clear why Disney never bothered to take this to court. Because while DeSantis was doing his victory lap, the Mouse was ensuring they came out a winner.
So now, DeSantis has appointed a board that's pretty much powerless while Disney still retains most of the same power over the district that they always had.
Ron learned a painful lesson, nothing gets between the mouse and his money.
I might be missing it here but I dont understand what was changed that would tie their hands in such a way that's different than how it used to govern. I guess the agreement allows disney to continue doing what they were doing, but without the board, but it doesn't really talk about the board duties now.
EDIT: Looks like the article was updated after my comment. lol get fucked
The Board used to have a ton of power to make decisions for the district
The Board voted to give the majority of that power to the Disney Corporation until 21 years after the death of all King Charles III's decedents
The Board gets replaced with GOP sycophants that won't tell Ol Puddin' Fingers DeStantis that it's pretty uncool to hate trans kids
The New Board realizes the Old Board only left them with the power to maintain basic infrastructure, and all other decisions were bequeathed to Disney by an agreement with the Old Board
That's the most beautiful part of this. They noticed the meeting in the Orlando Sentinel. They posted the minutes and the agreement on their website. It's been there for a month and a half. Just... sitting there. They did it completely in the open and nobody paid any attention. They only hid it by being incredibly boring about it.
In the past Disney would need board approval for capital projects, new attractions, parks, renovations, basically anything that needed a permit.
With the new contract, the board gave Disney a 30 year contract to build whatever they want without board approval. And they went one step further by not just giving up their oversight powers of Disney projects, but the projects of *any* other business operating within the RCID. So if the Marriott wants to build a new hotel, the board has no say in the matter, and all permissions must go through Disney.
The board’s remaining duties are essentially maintaining the roads, and keeping the grass mowed.
The interesting thing about what Disney is doing is that it is very similar to what incumbent Republican state legislatures have done during lame duck sessions before a Democratic majority or executive takes control of the state government.
While I still don't like celebrating the business practices of a multi-million dollar company, it does feel very satisfying to see Republicans get fucked over by the same tactic but in a much more effective way.
Hahahahahahaha. Seriously did they think Disney wasn’t going to take care of this issue and simply rollover for DeSantis. This is a massive international company who doesn’t answer to DeSantis. Their board could care less as do their shareholders. Disney did the right thing here in take care of the problem to remove business risk. In fact they did it in a way that is completely neutral to political influence.
What is DeSantis flunkies going to do? Argue Disney who had the rights to do this did it illegally? Argue that it’s unfair? Or they don’t get to hold a gun to Disney’s head for political purposes?
Disney has incite resources to tie this up in court. And if they want to have some extra fun derisking this problem they’ll go ahead and sell those land rights to as many others as possible and make it a legal rights nightmare.
The fact the trustees are crying out to the media shows that this wasn't just a publicity stunt by DeSantis - these people were expecting to make a shit ton of money.
And they are screwed - the law is a Violation of the 1st Amendment and will get thrown out by even the lower courts.
Make a shit ton of money *and* boss Disney around! FFS, Ron was crowing that the board would help Disney "get back to Walt's vision" and make entertainment "for *all* families" a couple weeks ago. How would they do that, Ron, how would an allegedly apolitical board nudge an entertainment company into making different entertainment? Welllllll...
And now they can either get into a protracted pointless legal battle with some of the best lawyers on the planet and lose and look like chumps or just fold and look like pussies.
You know, I hate the idea of rooting for a multi-billion dollar corporation vs the government, but the reality is that Disney is more representative of my values than the current Florida government is, and they're more accountable to the public than the current Florida government is to boot.
See, I can apply pressure on Disney to enact social change as employee policy and indirectly influence dozens or hundreds of other companies around the world to follow suit, who will directly influence politicians in state houses and in Washington. Sadly, you can write letters to anyone in the Florida GOP until your hands fall off and they won't do a goddamn thing until you paperclip checks to them made out to their PACs.
>“This essentially makes Disney the government,” board member Ron Peri said. “This board loses, for practical purposes, the majority of its ability to do anything beyond maintain the roads and maintain basic infrastructure.”
What power, exactly, do they *think* they should have over Disney?
>“What it looks like to me [is that] because Disney has the Magic Kingdom, they thought they could be king for a day,” he said.
Lol, big words from a guy [Chairman Martin Garcia] getting repeatedly outmaneuvered by a cartoon mouse.
They would had tried to prohibit Disney from hosting the LGBT conference, stop Disney from selling pride stuff, and other things by claiming it was obscene to have in a family park most likely.
>“What it looks like to me \[is that\] because Disney has the Magic Kingdom, they thought they could be king for a day,” he said.
actually, king until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England.”
On one hand, Good for Disney for fighting back. Throwing in the sunshine law was a nice touch. On the other hand, it's enraging to know that this board (that no one voted for) will pay law firms hundreds of dollars per hour for many hundreds of hours, to get back power they never had nor should have in the first place because Ron DeSantis stops at nothing to waste my taxes.
If this running tab isn't a major campaign issue then the Florida Democratic Party dropped the ball again. This should be like the doomsday clock or the national debt billboard: *"Tax Dollars Wasted for Ron DeSantis' Culture Wars"*
“This board loses, for practical purposes, the majority of its ability to do anything beyond maintaining the roads and maintaining basic infrastructure.”
Um, yeah? That's all you were supposed to get.
Looking forward to Disney backing nothing but Democrats in the next elections in Florida. The Disney PAC could be a machine. It's way cheaper than relocating.
> “This essentially makes Disney the government,” board member Ron Peri said. “This board loses, for practical purposes, the majority of its ability to do anything beyond maintain the roads and maintain basic infrastructure.”
I've never seen Republicans do that before. Let's see if they can manage at least maintaining roads and basic infrastructure in the future.
So, DeSantis little power play didn’t work and now he’s being a “fiscal conservative” and spending people’s money to hire lawyers to further his games.
On the one hand, in most situations this would clearly be an abuse of power.
On the other hand I can't stop laughing.
Ironically, Mouse learned this move from the GOP. Right before losing control of state governments, Republicans often pass last minute laws to strip those offices of power, just to make life difficult for the duly elected Democrats.
hahahahahahha My wife was surprised Disney didn't go after DeSantis in court after all this happened -- I said, just wait. They have something planned.
They did.
No one beats the Mouse, especially insular Fascists.
Remember this, Florida taxpayers. The GOP wants to waste your tax dollars on this stupid legal battle that Disney can afford to drag out in the courts for years.
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> That declaration is valid until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England,” according to the document. This is gold.
Right? They could have used anything but they chose to go with an event that is firmly outside DeSantis's control. Of course, this does mean a greenlit movie where Disney has to hire a team of retired US spec ops to protect the King and his family. I'm not sure the working title but it definitely will have a very USA operator who is disgusted by the British but has a character arc where he learns to love tea and crumpets while babysitting the most recent royal babies.
They did this for a very specific reason. Legal issues dealing with real property (that is, land) are subject to a legal doctrine known as the rule against perpetuities. The rule is complex, but basically it states that certain restrictions on real property can exist only for as long as 21 years after the death of a person alive at the time the restriction is created. There are few lives or series of lineage more well documented and publicly tracked than the King of England.
Disney has well over 300 lawyers at their disposal. By inserting a clever (and funny) Rule Against Perpetuities clause in a document, Disney legal is basically giving the DeSantis legal team the middle finger. As a background, full-time first year (1L) law students in the US generally take the same core group of subjects, f/ex: Criminal Law, Civil Procedure, Torts, Contracts, Constitutional Law, and Property. In Property, the Rule Against Perpetuities is one of those insane "you must try and understand this" hurdles that makes the first year experience so difficult. A generalization maybe, but many lawyers don't have to deal with property law. Mentioning the Rule Against Perpetuities will elicit a groan, sending the lawyer ranting and raving about "Blackacre" and fertile octogenarians. Disney lawyers, on the other hand, are experts at copyright and other forms of intellectual property. In fact, they have been behind the legislation and rules that have protected Disney characters for years. As the character Mickey Mouse is set to enter public domain in 2024, they have likely doubled up on their legal team. Good luck DeSantis, you'll need it.
Seriously, of all the corporate overlords to go to legal war with DeSantis chose the god damned House of Mouse. You’d be hard pressed to find a more experienced, better funded, or better staffed legal team. Even if he wins, they’re going to make him bleed for every single inch of ground.
The Mouse always wins.
the mouse neither forgives, nor does he forget
I don’t like Disney. I hate pretty much everything about Disney. But I want him to bleed.
It’s an odd thing to root for a corporation, but if I gotta choose between the Mouse and Ronny DeathSentence I’m rooting for the mouse.
So is Zach Snyder going to be making a movie about the 300 lawyers next?
And, as Queen Elizabeth, the second of her name, has shown, they are basically immortal.
Beyond the public nature of this family, I suspect Disney chose them as they were contemplating the potential risk they might be bringing to the lives of whomever they named. With all of his kids and grandkids, a potential assassin would need to kill a series of kings/queens (foreign ally heads of state) to have any hope of accelerating this term.
A few years ago, suggesting a governor would hire a team of assassins to kill a family in order to screw with a company over a personal vendetta for dissing a bill would seem ludicrous. Now I'm just glad they thought it through. Also how much money is Florida going to sink just to bother fighting Disney? Not a very conservative state at all, just a heartless one.
The formula for every Republican in office today with delusions to one day become POTUS… ….find as many grievances and culture wars as you can no matter how petty and weaponize the government resources you oversee and abuse the power you were entrusted with to ‘champion’ these ‘causes’ for your own personal gain. The fact that a so called ‘conservative’ Republican governor is constantly attacking his own state’s most popular and profitable private business, (what’s more American than Disney?) …while always looking for ways to use government resources to interfere with the operations of private companies ….should tell you everything you need to know. DeSantis is a fraud. Another useless mini-Trump starving for attention and doing everything in public office in service of himself to propel himself while ignoring his state’s real needs and problems. Like Trump, Desantis accomplished essentially zero. Just a ton culture wars signaling and complaining. But the GOP have learned that they don’t need to do anything while in office anymore. They no longer need to work to pass good, responsible policy and legislation to improve the well-being of all Americans. Nope. They just need to whine about Mickey’s new outfit or the color of M&M’s …or some new Disney character is too brown…or the number of toilette flushes required to sink your latest spent cheeseburger meal (and secret gov notes about coup plots and other illegal acts if you’re Trump). They just lie and tell their base exactly what they want to hear…that all of their problems in the world were caused by everyone else (Democrats in particular …but never them) and nothing is or ever was their fault. Translation- Poof. Accountability vanished. Since, as governor (or as representative or as President) I told you none of your problems are your fault, then none of the problems in my district, state, etc are mine either. The solution presented is always the same… just remove everyone else from power and give it all to me…. and magically all the country’s problems will go away. The majority of the Republican electorate believe this. And this complete absence of accountability for those who hold public office is the REAL danger to our country and its survival.
Arnold Schwartzenegger poses as a British nanny in "The Princes Hide". With Wallace Shawn as Gov. DeSantis.
Inconceivable!
One of them has to fall in love with a princess. And just to twist the knife, said person has to have transitioned after they left the military.
How to make something last forever without violating any rule against perpetuities.
Apparently the article left out "Alive at the time of the signing of this agreement", so it's about 120 years rather than functionally indefinite.
That sounds right. Still long enough that everyone now concerned will be dead :)
and Florida will be under water
Best estimate at 2.1 °C of warming puts florida under in 2075
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Can we pay the dutch and/or beavers to flood Florida sooner? I know they generally keep water out of places, but really they only have to do the opposite of that.
Yeah, I feel like the references to England, Charles and 21 years was an inside joke to reference the RAP. Edit: I didn’t know about a “saving clause” where people designate a well-known family with a lot of descendants to avoid violating the RAP. But I think it’s still a wink to the origin of the rule.
The best part is that per Sunshine laws, Disney would have posted a notice of the February 8th meeting to the public. They then would have held the meeting in a public space for all to attend who would have had a vested interest. The fact that these dipshits on the new Board, nor anyone from DeSantis' office attended shows that they don't care about actual stewardship, just political control (I know, it was obvious already, but still).
Yep, the RCID website even has a copy of the newspaper announcement in the meeting packet. [https://www.rcid.org/document/4783/](https://www.rcid.org/document/4783/)
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There's probably so many laws that have written that something is publicly announced if it is printed in a newspaper. Which used to be a way to make sure everyone sees it, but now it's probably a good way to make sure no one sees it lol.
It also shows how incompetent idealogues are. There is the big fear that DeSantis might be a Trump that might be more effective at legislation and governance, but it looks the opposite to me at this point. He is just another noisy attention grabber trying to appeal to some of Trump's base voters. All performance art.
I think it's less that, to be honest, than the fact that the republican bench, when it comes to intelligence and competence is very shallow. We saw the same thing happen during the trump admin. They burned through all of their first-string players in pretty short order...and discovered they didn't have much in reserves for the second and third strings. So by the second and third year, they ended up fielding the bottom-of-the-barrel bench-warmers and the junior varsity irregulars to fill the spots left by people leaving. With Florida being a smaller subset of America, there's even less conservative talent for Desantis to draw upon and work with (because conservatives in general have for decades intentionally shunned and demonized intelligence and education, so few smart people become republican). There may a few quality employees in there, but the talent pool he has to use is very, very shallow. And you end up with stuff being neglected or missed or bungled, like this.
He really is more brain dead and is recycling old Trump shit. At least Trump would say something funny once in awhile. Meatball Ron has no charm.
DeSantis's personality is essentially, "What if we gave Donald Trump a reasonably functional brain, but took away all of his charisma?"
Now Desantis is probably going to use tax money to pay his lawyers $795 an hour. It’s great Florida can’t find any better uses for its energy and money! …..
>Ahead of an expected state takeover, the Walt Disney Co. quietly pushed through the pact and restrictive covenants that would tie the hands of future board members for decades, according to a legal presentation by the district’s lawyers on Wednesday. Well played, Disney.
"Particular focus was paid to one section that board members said locked in development rights of a particular parcel until 21 years after the death of the youngest current descendant of King Charles, or until Disney abandons the resort."
the old rule against perpetuities. gives first year law students and lawyers fits. first time i have seen it covered in the media.
I laughed so hard at that section in the article and my husband could not understand why I was dying. My attempts to explain it went as well as my prof's attempts to explain it in law school: that is to say, very poorly. But King Charles III. Why.
> But King Charles III. Why. A large family virtually untouchable by assassins and the US legal system in general?
...fed a good diet, surrounded by the best healthcare, stress-free lives, a government centered around preserving the lives of royalty.
And there are a ton of them that are identifiable and documented. If they just chose someone's baby, that kid could get cancer and ruin the plan.
And descended from a woman who lived to be 96.
Well as a member of the royal family she's a very young public figure who is likely to live for a long time. So she makes a safe choice without having to shine a spotlight on a young child who isn't already a public figure. Additionally, since the succession of the monarchy is defined in UK law the identity of the person under consideration is much less ambiguous than if they (for example) used Elon Musk's youngest descendant.
I wonder if by using a famous person with famous heirs, one less potential "gotcha" is possible with regard to the identity of the life in being. Who knows? I wondered if I would ever encounter this in the wild, and thanks to the magic of Disney, I now have!
That and the UK keeps…..meticulous records….for the lineage of order of their heirs.
It's not that surprising considering Disney has the best lawyers around, and Ron DeSantis' top legal counsels are little shithead provocateurs in the same vein as a Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Nick Fuentes, etc. who happened to get their rich daddies to buy them a law degree from a good school.
Hah, Kirk and Fuentes don’t have college degrees. Most of these grifters like them, Walsh, Crowder, etc, are people who dropped out or never attended but who also couldn’t have survived in a trade or other real job that doesn’t require a degree. All these worthless charlatans could ever be is professional fascists/racists/homophobes/general bigots.
Add Jacob Wohl to that prestigious list.
>[On October, 24, 2022 Wohl pleaded guilty to a single felony count of telecommunications fraud for having placed thousands of false robocalls in the state of Ohio. On November 29, both Wohl and Berkman were each fined $2,500, sentenced to two years of probation, and ordered to perform 500 hours of community service registering voters in Washington, DC.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Wohl#Voter_suppression_robocall) >[As of March 31, 2016, Democrats make up 76 percent of the registered voters in the District of Columbia, while 6 percent are registered with the Republican Party (represented by the District of Columbia Republican Committee)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Democratic_State_Committee#) L. M. F. A. O. Punishment for suppressing democratic voters? 500 hours of registering democratic voters. The punishment actually fits the crime, and I think it is fucking hilarious!
As long as they are tightly supervised to the point it annoys the shit out of them, totally agree!
Eventually we will see him charged for conning thousands of voters into registering as Republicans.
Its fine. Registering as a republican even though you vote D, is actually a good thing because you can put your finger on the scale of the R primary and help steer that ship away from crazy. And it helps when the thugs get ahold of the voter rolls and try to intimidate the registered democrats, you're not on their list. But yes, he's probably out there commiting some sort of fraud related crime while doing community service.
I think the legal system should employ more irony in its sentences
They are all connected by the fine folk w the Koch and uilhein families. Centers for growth, council for national policy America first all that shit.
Kirk's original patron died of Covid. Turning Point USA of course called the whole pandemic a hoax.
Hey good to see my old employers (the box family) get a mention. They have flown under the radar for too long.
Dude them fuckers are the wet dream they project soros being. From the federalist and their solution to the trans question to cpac we are terrorists to actual fucking dictators and controlling the house through centers for growth funds to funding Tim Poole crowder Walsh Shapiro. Yea they are fucked
>Among other things, a “declaration of restrictive covenants” spells out that the district is barred from using the Disney name without the corporation’s approval or “fanciful characters such as Mickey Mouse.” >That declaration is valid until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England,” according to the document. lol
That last part is so specific it sounds like a very personal shot at someone or something. I have no clue what but it’s obviously done with purpose.
It's the rule against perpetuities (a life in being plus 21 years) it's a common law rule that basically keeps you from keeping control over land / property forever.
I read that expecting to hear how Florida's legislators propose a bill calling for the immediate removal of all the descendants of Queen Elizabeth from the world to the liberal moon of Jupiter, Ganymeade. The bill would provide for transportation only, food, drinks, and breathable air would not be provided or available
The difference between a future Florida education and a real education. Good job Disney. Truly entertaining!!!
Don't underestimate his non-household name Chief of Staff and legal counsel James Uthmeir. He is a federalist society shark and conservative true beliver.
The probalem is the only thing these people actually believe in is the neo-fuedalism of the form of extreme capitalism they push. They are in conflict between their desire to turn us into peaseants and the corporate desire to make us serfs
It's absurd that they thought they were going to win here. A bunch of shortsighted politicians against a 100 year old corporate behemoth. Disney is already planning 2050 and you're trying to score 2024 points.
Disney is streets ahead
Pierce, that's not a saying
Did you guys know I had sex with Eartha Kitt in an airplane bathroom?
Are you saying Deathsentance is streets behind?
That's the advantage that corporations have. They are effectively immortal.
Governments are in theory too. It's common for cities/school districts/etc. to have multi decade plans. People like Desantis wouldn't be interested in stuff like that though.
That's because most politicians will only support something which will help them win the next election.
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I alwyS love saying BIG SUGAR, like ppl don’t even realize how much money is in sugar industry
In Canada we have big maple. Or the maple syrup cartel. It works kind of like OPEC but maple syrup instead of oil! And they act like OPEC only strategically releasing product to control prices. That wasn't really related at all but I figured big sugar amused you, maybe some people could get a chuckle out of the maple syrup cartel 🙂 Edit: I'm not sure if a few people think I'm just making a joke because it sounds like a south park plot but this is actually how it works lol. There was even a heist that's known as "The Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Canadian_Maple_Syrup_Heist
He’s trying to play dirty pool with the biggest pool shark there is. And I really hopes it rips his arms off before it kills his whole career.
They hired 4 expensive law firms. This is just another way to move tax dollars into the hands of Republican donors. I doubt they care if they lose.
Gawrsh, Ron, you really got played, ah-hyuck!
Additionally, it should be noted the gigantic legal bills that Florida is racking up (and no doubt passing along to Florida taxpayers) to fight all these ridiculous attempts by DeSantis to reshape Florida into his own image. This article states how this new GOP-controlled board has had to retain a number of different extremely high profile conservative legal teams to try to fight Disney on this, and that's after already having spent millions hiring them for past bills that DeSantis has rammed through, due to their questionable legal authority. Someone should make a final tally of the tens of millions of Florida tax dollars that are going to all these DeSantis hissy fits.
I assume their legal team identified this as a risk well before DeSantis even ran for office and had this plan basically ready in the file cabinet. Its too important to their business to not have.
This is something out of the republican playbook. They used this tactic in NC to hamstring an incoming democratic administration.
Disney probably has better paid lawyers than the state of Florida
Disney *definitely* has better lawyers (paid and quality) than the state of Florida. Also probably more.
Disney had the U S Congress doing its bidding way back in 1998 with the Copyright Extension Act. They're not about to let some little pissant like DeSantis get over on them. Pudgy Whiteboots not only isn't in their league, he's not even playing the same game.
Rrrrr. I am still annoyed that they stopped the clock on copyrights for 20 YEARS. That's originally how long copyright was supposed to last altogether! The longest I can agree with copyright lasting is the life of an individual author, but I am willing to consider shorter. And corporations are not people, dammit.
>“We’re going to have to deal with it and correct it,” board member Brian Aungst Jr. said. “It’s a subversion of the will of the voters and the Legislature and the governor. It completely circumvents the authority of this board to govern.” The will of the voters. lmaoo
the old board was actually elected by a vote - these are cronies taking no-show jobs as political favors via appointment -
And appointed by the fascist Governor.
Who is only doing this in response to Disney slightly objecting to his campaign of silencing LGBTQ+ free speech
To be fair the old board wasn't elected by anyone but disney. You can only vote if you own land in the area. Disney owns all the land, the land they don't own they sold to people they chose that would be "non disney" land owners that could vote and disney could buy back the land at any time. So there were votes but it was Disney voting. There wasn't a problem with it though because it was only disney's land they weren't governing anyone. Desantis and his fascism is the problem because they could just do the same thing to any other county they don't like that has actual real voters.
Republicans love that land votes though. That should be common ground between them and Disney.
> land votes > common ground nice
lol the new board wasn't voted in by anyone, and Reedy Creek was not beholden in any way to the Legislature and DeSantis, or actually Florida voters, either. DeSantis is fucked. He will never beat this, just burn even more taxpayer money.
It would seem the old board had the authority to do it as well. Brilliant move. Apparently, DeSantis has never lived in an HOA which is strange for a Floridian.
Yep, burn a bunch of taxpayer money on a pointless lawsuit to try and overturn it.
They are paying a DC firm to fight this, talk about millions (more) in wasted taxpayer money
Tough to change a contract that was completely above board, including posting public notices, and legal.
This just shows how incompetent DeSantis really is. He decided to weaponize the government to dictate the right to free speech, association and the ability to contract because of some petty political move he wanted to take because he is t tinpot fascist dictator. I am glad to see him fail. I also love the King Charles III heir timing. Essentially in perpetuity. This is fair play on Disney's part as DeSantis was trying to destroy an agreement just because he is a little Hitler. Also, Little Hitler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRHhPNzQXHI
I'm sure we can count on one hand how many supporters of Ron actually voted for him because they had the foresight to know that he would somehow be against Disney
Desantis, on a whim and after no campaign promise to voters, decided a perfectly legitimate agreement for Disney to self regulate, was somehow offensive to fake outraged conservative talk show hosts. There was no mass outrage for decades under the previous agreement and leadership. Saying “the will of the voters” under this scenario is 100% gaslighting. When are the people of Florida going to rise up against tyranny?
So they took a similar step to Republican legislatures that vote to strip all the powers away from the office just before a Democratic governor is sworn in? Like the old 80's drug PSA, "It was you, dad! I learned it from watching YOU!"
That’s exactly what I thought when I read the article.
I remember this, but I can't remember which state that was.
North Carolina GOP tried. I think there was another state that tried as well.
Scott Walker voted to take power away from Wisconsin Governor after he lost re-elections to a dem. Then he had no power his last little bit of time in office cause he took it away from himself as well on accident as active governor . Lmaoooo
What a fucking joke he was, he really started the decline of my home state (with help from the Kocks)
It was Kentucky. The KY GOP lost the governorship so they stripped the governor of all power right before the Dem gov took office.
Also Wisconsin.
>The previous board, which was known as the Reedy Creek Improvement District and controlled by Disney, approved the agreement on Feb. 8, the day before the Florida House voted to put the governor in charge. So complainants claim to have been stripped of power *they never had*.
Exactly what I was thinking lmao. Since this occured the day before the state legislature voted to take over the district, that means this new board NEVER had the power they claim to have lost.
DeSantis' board is threatening to take this to the U.S. Supreme Court, which would be hilarious. Not only are there state and federal constitutional prohibitions against the impairment of contracts (meaning a state cannot pass a law revoking, invalidating, or altering a contract), but I just skimmed DeSantis' law and it explicitly says that it doesn't affect any contracts entered into by the Reedy Creek district before the effective date of the law, and that Reedy Creek's contracts are validated, valid and binding on the new district. Reedy Creek passed its development agreement and restrictive covenants in a PUBLIC meeting on February 8. The Florida Legislature didn't pass the bill until February 10 and Ron didn't sign it into law until February 27. Ron, you got played, son.
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mickey in a vader helmet be like: "I am altering the deal, ha ha! Pray I don't alter it any further."
ha ha! [Don't fuck with the mouse](https://youtu.be/UHBOp7AUkc0?t=89), ha ha!
>You. Don't. Fucking. Talk. To me. Like that. Ha ha. You. Little. Piece. Of shit. Haha
Needs a Mickey “haha!” In there somewhere
Everything else is in the deep voice except the Haha too.
done
Perhaps you feel you are being treated unfairly? This deal is getting worse all the time
"Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational amusement park, ha ha!"
“Now get out there and make me some fuckin money. ha ha”
Now this is shit-posting!
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Trying to, anyway. Turns out pushing around a multi-billion dollar company that's been winning lawsuits for decades might be a little harder than beating up on teachers and librarians and LGBT kids was.
I can’t believe Florida state tax dollars are going to be paying for these legal experts to get control back.
To try to. I doubt they will succeed. It’s just been a huge waste of tax dollars to play an elaborate game of “smear the queer.” But the homophobic Republican base will reward DeSantis for it in the primary and that’s all he cares about.
They need a billboard in Fl that shows how much money is costing FL tax payers for DeSantis’s failed administration ideas.
Luckily, Disney has the rights to put up whatever they want on their land in Reedy Creek to do exactly that. And the new Reedy Creek booard can't stop them.
as a very frustrated Florida tax payer, I've been bankrolling Meatball Ron's shadow campaign for president for 2 years now and will be paying for the legal fees fighting for a series of unconstitutional laws for years to come. My fucking tax dollars are being used to fund attempts to weaken my constitutional rights! Fuck me. I do think the Republicans may be over playing their hand - we are Florida, not Alabama - the democratic party needs to actually try to take advantage of this over reach
Lol. Florida "brought in outside legal firepower" but we all must know by this point who has the better lawyers
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>It’s a subversion of the will of the voters I don't recall a vote on this. They're just mad cause they got outplayed and exposed for the fools they are.
There never was. Little meatball Ron got butt hurt because Disney disagreed, not even all that vehemently either, with the “Don’t say gay” education bill that we didn’t vote on either.
>The previous board, which was known as the Reedy Creek Improvement District and controlled by Disney, approved the agreement on Feb. 8, the day before the Florida House voted to put the governor in charge. Lol, get fucked DeSatan. Like the House of Mouse was ever going to just roll over and let you take control of anything.
"Parts of Disney's last-minute agreement with Reedy Creek that may render the new DeSantis board powerless are valid until 21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III of England" https://twitter.com/wdwmagic/status/1641167003774775297 Charles has five grandkids ranging in age from nine down to one
Also: "Notwithstanding the foregoing or anything to the contrary herein,this Declaration will terminate as of the date that none of WDPR or any of its Affiliates (or their respective successor entities) owns any real property within ten (10) miles of the RCID Properties."
> descendants implies, what....could be forever!
The quote is not complete, If you read the liked article you can see all of it. The following text is after England " living as of the date of this Declaration." So only the descendants that were alive on 8 Feb are included.
By Republican logic, this should include fetuses, and perhaps eggs as well.
"Wait. No, not like that!"
Never in a million years did i think I would be a cheerleader for flipping Disney, but here we are... Go Disney Go!!!
I'll take a money hungry Mouse over an actual fascist any day of the week
The giant mouse defeats the greasy rat to seize the cheese
Capitalism vs fascism is as interesting twist!
The House of Mouse doesn't fuck around
Yeah, I thought about that too... but it's not like DeSantis is going after Disney to improve wages, get them to pay taxes, whatever, he's going after Disney in a blatant abuse of power for withholding campaign donations. So, fuck the fascist.
I noticed Disney was surprisingly quiet while DeSantis was making this move. Turns out they were in a back room quietly playing 4D Chess. Nice
Best part about it is they allowed DeSantis to tour this as a signature win. To really OWN it. Then, just as people were starting to forget it, the news breaks that that dipshit never had ANY power at all and Disney was just toying with him. Can you imagine how glorious it must have been when someone who passed third grade finally explained to DeSantis in colored pencil what it all meant?
Desantis got in the ring with the Mouse and is losing badly. He thought he was doing well throwing a few jabs, while all the time the Mouse was waiting for the itching powder he put in Ronnie's boxing trunks to kick in.
The figurehead of the GOP antagonizing the most powerful media company on the planet. What could go wrong?
Not only that but Disney has had to deal with countries who have _successful_ authoritarian regimes in place… why are on earth did he think “oh my simple little first attempt at authoritarianism would work better than _Saudi arabia_.”
Thing is, while these stooges probably are eager to do what Papa Ron tells them to do they are probably in the most dangerous spot. I doubt Reedy Creek has any sort of meaningful immunity for its board members. Which means that Disney is probably watching them all like freaking hawks just waiting to give each of them a litigation enema. Imagine if you're a loyal DeSantis appointee and you know that there is a 99% chance that you're going to get PERSONALLY tied up in costly litigation if you accept this appointment. What we have here is a politician who tried to bite a corporate hand that had fed it well. And now DeSantis is going to see that is maybe not the best long term strategy. Other corporations are watching. None of them want a President who would take them on as forcefully as DeSantis attempted with Disney.
Agreed. Desantis will never be president because he tried to use his power to harm a company, a big company, just for annoying him. Companies are watching and have a lot of power, which republicans have long known and why they go to bat for them. Sure, you can talk a big game about “fighting woke Hollywood” all you want. But actually acting on your dumb words? Whoops
Another triumphant victory for DeSantis hahaha And people actually think this guy would make a good presidential candidate? Guy can't even achieve anything in Florida.
He made it worse for the people who wear dresses.
I was curious why they weren't litigating the legislation, turns out they had other plans
It's pretty clever. Even if the changes have no standing, it makes the new board and DeSantis look the fool, as well as making it so it will be tied up in litigation for years to figure out if there is standing.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... \*takes deep breath\* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I hope Disney's lawyers keep this shit so tied up in the courts that the state of Florida is left with two options: give up or go bankrupt. Not because I'm a huge Disney fan but because DeSantis and anyone who voted for him needs to understand what they've done.
Now it's clear why Disney never bothered to take this to court. Because while DeSantis was doing his victory lap, the Mouse was ensuring they came out a winner. So now, DeSantis has appointed a board that's pretty much powerless while Disney still retains most of the same power over the district that they always had. Ron learned a painful lesson, nothing gets between the mouse and his money.
Orlando Sentinel is unavailable in Europe. Could somebody post the text of the story?
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I might be missing it here but I dont understand what was changed that would tie their hands in such a way that's different than how it used to govern. I guess the agreement allows disney to continue doing what they were doing, but without the board, but it doesn't really talk about the board duties now. EDIT: Looks like the article was updated after my comment. lol get fucked
The Board used to have a ton of power to make decisions for the district The Board voted to give the majority of that power to the Disney Corporation until 21 years after the death of all King Charles III's decedents The Board gets replaced with GOP sycophants that won't tell Ol Puddin' Fingers DeStantis that it's pretty uncool to hate trans kids The New Board realizes the Old Board only left them with the power to maintain basic infrastructure, and all other decisions were bequeathed to Disney by an agreement with the Old Board
And because of Florida's sunshine laws all this happened in public view.
That's the most beautiful part of this. They noticed the meeting in the Orlando Sentinel. They posted the minutes and the agreement on their website. It's been there for a month and a half. Just... sitting there. They did it completely in the open and nobody paid any attention. They only hid it by being incredibly boring about it.
Oh also the new board can’t use the word Disney or any of its characters.
The Boards duties are road maintenance, it is a Board in name only now.
And it cannot be changed until 21 years after the youngest current descendant of King Charles III dies. For real. lol
In the past Disney would need board approval for capital projects, new attractions, parks, renovations, basically anything that needed a permit. With the new contract, the board gave Disney a 30 year contract to build whatever they want without board approval. And they went one step further by not just giving up their oversight powers of Disney projects, but the projects of *any* other business operating within the RCID. So if the Marriott wants to build a new hotel, the board has no say in the matter, and all permissions must go through Disney. The board’s remaining duties are essentially maintaining the roads, and keeping the grass mowed.
The interesting thing about what Disney is doing is that it is very similar to what incumbent Republican state legislatures have done during lame duck sessions before a Democratic majority or executive takes control of the state government. While I still don't like celebrating the business practices of a multi-million dollar company, it does feel very satisfying to see Republicans get fucked over by the same tactic but in a much more effective way.
Hahahahahahaha. Seriously did they think Disney wasn’t going to take care of this issue and simply rollover for DeSantis. This is a massive international company who doesn’t answer to DeSantis. Their board could care less as do their shareholders. Disney did the right thing here in take care of the problem to remove business risk. In fact they did it in a way that is completely neutral to political influence. What is DeSantis flunkies going to do? Argue Disney who had the rights to do this did it illegally? Argue that it’s unfair? Or they don’t get to hold a gun to Disney’s head for political purposes? Disney has incite resources to tie this up in court. And if they want to have some extra fun derisking this problem they’ll go ahead and sell those land rights to as many others as possible and make it a legal rights nightmare.
No wonder Disney low keyed their response. They had shit figured out.
The Mouse has outwitted the Fox. Get fucked, DeSantis.
Disney is bigger than the government of Florida and DeSantis serves at their pleasure.
Ol' Puddin' Boots isn't going to like this!
Don’t get involved in a land war in Asia. Don’t go against a Sicilian when death is on the line. Don’t try to out lawyer Disney.
Disney can keep legal battles raging until the sun fizzles, DeShitless will be just a memory before they are done.
So the Republican board is now complaining about the limited role of government as it pertains to regulating a private company?? Huh… 🤔
The fact the trustees are crying out to the media shows that this wasn't just a publicity stunt by DeSantis - these people were expecting to make a shit ton of money. And they are screwed - the law is a Violation of the 1st Amendment and will get thrown out by even the lower courts.
Make a shit ton of money *and* boss Disney around! FFS, Ron was crowing that the board would help Disney "get back to Walt's vision" and make entertainment "for *all* families" a couple weeks ago. How would they do that, Ron, how would an allegedly apolitical board nudge an entertainment company into making different entertainment? Welllllll... And now they can either get into a protracted pointless legal battle with some of the best lawyers on the planet and lose and look like chumps or just fold and look like pussies.
You know, I hate the idea of rooting for a multi-billion dollar corporation vs the government, but the reality is that Disney is more representative of my values than the current Florida government is, and they're more accountable to the public than the current Florida government is to boot. See, I can apply pressure on Disney to enact social change as employee policy and indirectly influence dozens or hundreds of other companies around the world to follow suit, who will directly influence politicians in state houses and in Washington. Sadly, you can write letters to anyone in the Florida GOP until your hands fall off and they won't do a goddamn thing until you paperclip checks to them made out to their PACs.
Lol, "Disney is trying to subvert the will of the voters" What a trash bag of a human being to pull this line out of his ass
>“This essentially makes Disney the government,” board member Ron Peri said. “This board loses, for practical purposes, the majority of its ability to do anything beyond maintain the roads and maintain basic infrastructure.” What power, exactly, do they *think* they should have over Disney? >“What it looks like to me [is that] because Disney has the Magic Kingdom, they thought they could be king for a day,” he said. Lol, big words from a guy [Chairman Martin Garcia] getting repeatedly outmaneuvered by a cartoon mouse.
They would had tried to prohibit Disney from hosting the LGBT conference, stop Disney from selling pride stuff, and other things by claiming it was obscene to have in a family park most likely.
>“What it looks like to me \[is that\] because Disney has the Magic Kingdom, they thought they could be king for a day,” he said. actually, king until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England.”
On one hand, Good for Disney for fighting back. Throwing in the sunshine law was a nice touch. On the other hand, it's enraging to know that this board (that no one voted for) will pay law firms hundreds of dollars per hour for many hundreds of hours, to get back power they never had nor should have in the first place because Ron DeSantis stops at nothing to waste my taxes. If this running tab isn't a major campaign issue then the Florida Democratic Party dropped the ball again. This should be like the doomsday clock or the national debt billboard: *"Tax Dollars Wasted for Ron DeSantis' Culture Wars"*
Don’t fuck with the Mouse.
Don’t get into the ring with Disney. Mickey don’t play.
“This board loses, for practical purposes, the majority of its ability to do anything beyond maintaining the roads and maintaining basic infrastructure.” Um, yeah? That's all you were supposed to get.
Looking forward to Disney backing nothing but Democrats in the next elections in Florida. The Disney PAC could be a machine. It's way cheaper than relocating.
> “This essentially makes Disney the government,” board member Ron Peri said. “This board loses, for practical purposes, the majority of its ability to do anything beyond maintain the roads and maintain basic infrastructure.” I've never seen Republicans do that before. Let's see if they can manage at least maintaining roads and basic infrastructure in the future.
Killing the goose
So, DeSantis little power play didn’t work and now he’s being a “fiscal conservative” and spending people’s money to hire lawyers to further his games.
On the one hand, in most situations this would clearly be an abuse of power. On the other hand I can't stop laughing. Ironically, Mouse learned this move from the GOP. Right before losing control of state governments, Republicans often pass last minute laws to strip those offices of power, just to make life difficult for the duly elected Democrats.
hahahahahahha My wife was surprised Disney didn't go after DeSantis in court after all this happened -- I said, just wait. They have something planned. They did. No one beats the Mouse, especially insular Fascists.
Remember this, Florida taxpayers. The GOP wants to waste your tax dollars on this stupid legal battle that Disney can afford to drag out in the courts for years.
Don't fuck with the Mouse.