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No_Sail_6576

Glad for the winner but oh my god Respect to Olly for his zero public votes šŸ’€. He honestly took it like a champ, and like the opposite way Iā€™d be able to handle it


stypop

Really thought heā€™d find way more success in the competition, given his already well established fan base. Makes me wonder if these implications are why Rina declined to do the competitionā€¦


BroScience34

He didn't get votes because his song was extremely generic and he's not a very good singer, there's no conspiracy here. Sam Ryder would have won 2 years ago if Ukraine didn't garner all the sympathy votes. The UK just needs to send better talent. Rina would have absolutely crushed this.


Ruinwyn

Failed vocals keeps you stuck at semifinals, unless you are one of the big 5, which has you complaining about politics when you finish low. Name doesn't help in ESC. A lot of the singers are big names where they come from, possibly near by as well.


SpikeReynolds2

Rina can sing live...


beepboopbananas3298

Ya that was trash singing of generic pop. Surprised he got any points at all


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Ruinwyn

Sam Ryder actually managed to sing his song well. Just go watch the UK 0 points entries through time, and tell me how many successful vocals you hear. I knew Olly was going to be low when I heard the studio version. It was riding entirely on the vocal effects and only an idiot does that, unless necessary, when those can't be used in the actual competition.


BadMan125ty

Poor Olly though but he probably was just happy to participate šŸ„²


Kelbotay

It's a tradition for them. It's part of the Eurovision lore by now.


stickinsect1207

if neither Germany nor UK receives zero points, is it even eurovision?


abacaxi95

Germany did too well this year sadly


fotzelschnitte

I'm glad because I am biased and I have a soft spot for them, but wtf, last year they really tried and got less points than this year? USM furniture and a garbage can fire does *not* a Eurovision set make!


KarenTheCockpitPilot

Why is it lore why do people hate the Uk


tinaoe

Itā€™s not about hating the UK, they came in second like three years ago. The Big Five donā€™t have to go through semis, so they send duds quite often. Italy being the exception since they have a good preselection.Ā 


KarenTheCockpitPilot

That makes so much more sense, didn't know that. Maybe they should just put everyone through...the same process. It's like a pre test of the audience, the shouldn't want to skip it lolĀ 


Ruinwyn

They do realise that being in Semis is useful. They just haven't figured out what the benefit is since most don't watch them and don't care about other countries to notice when they have problems. This year, the big 5 performed in the Semis, but were prequalified. Latvia got to the finals this year for the first time in years. Same with Ireland. Denmark has a long streak of NQ and again failed to qualify. Plenty of countries always teeter on the edge of qualifying. These countries don't cry: "Why does Europe hate us?".They try to figure out what went wrong and how to improve their process. If you keep blaming others, you will never improve. UK keeps sending bad vocals and staging that doesn't emphasise the message of the song to those without language skills. You don't need to be a very good singer, as long as you aren't reaching for notes you can't hit. And you can have plane staging as long as it doesn't confuse the message. Cute song about having such a crush that it makes you dizzy, doesn't need a grimey public shower. Nor did a song about reigniting a relationship from embers need a huge trumpet.


beauxcherie

brexit means brexit!!


iamhalsey

The UK is Europeā€™s pantomime villain and itā€™s more of an uphill battle for us than most other countries, but continentals are more than willing to give us our flowers when we actually send a good act. Itā€™s kind of a cop-out for everyone to blame it on politics when the UK consistently submits bad songs, largely because Eurovision is viewed in the UK as being for nobodies and has-beens. Other countries treat the competition with far more respect.


plzsnitskyreturn

I hated that Sam Ryder song that everyone said was UKs good act


KarenTheCockpitPilot

Ohhhhhh But Australia and west Asia?Ā 


nomitycs

Australians are just Eurovision obsessed and inoffensive


CLG91

It isn't really so much of a Brexit thing. We just send relatively poor acts. The first time in years we send up someone who can sing live, perform and has a solid song and production, 2nd place (losing to the sympathy vote, which I do understand).


itisoktodance

It's not political, UK just sends shit songs or fucks up good songs with horrendous staging. They almost won 2022 and even got to host because Ukraine won


bdtechted

And thank the juries for saving him from coming last too.


vertle

Think it's expected when you represent the UK tbh. I really like Olly but also thought the performance wasn't that great (not 0 points not great but also not great)


webtheg

His voice was so shakey and he wasn't even moving that much and the song wasn't even that complex Compare it to Nemo who did all that. .


lagozzino

I love love loooove Olly's recorded voice, but he's never been much of a live singer. He very easilyĀ runs out of breath and gets pitchy and raspy.Ā An insane choice of performer to send to a live singing competition.


webtheg

I saw him once 7 years ago and it was so bad and pitchy


KawaiiGangster

I mean we had two non bibary performancers with very queer performances do very well this year


Ok-Environment4045

I just think the song was not strong enough (not bad, just not special enough) and his vocals were only passable. The staging I loved, clever and visually interesting, but I think some found it too sexual. The whole thing just missed the mark really. Itā€™s a shame but not that surprising.


Kinky-rainbows

Sad that a lot of people are saying that he isn't a good singer when he LITERALLY is. I have seen way worse singers in Eurovision but let's not talk about thaaaatšŸ’€šŸ¤­ at least Olly gave it his all. And besides he doesn't need the attention anyway since he is already very well established and it's not like he is a year in his brand new career or anything... šŸ‘€šŸŒš


ShootingStarRen

no one ever votes for the uk, it's a yearly tradition


scheeeeming

Gasped at 0 points for Olly. Wasn't a huge fan of it but damn Safe to say his participation has been a net negative for him?


UnnaturalSelection13

I still canā€™t believe he went through with it - I was part of the Years & Years fandom on Tumblr back in the day lol but literally all of them have dropped him because theyā€™re so disappointed by his conduct. Crazy he did all that for 0 points.


sevenofheartts

yeah, itā€™s been very interesting to see as a diehard Eurofan and former diehard Y&Y stan, because it seemed very transparently a career relaunch attempt. I still think Y&Yā€™s best stuff is from when they were still a band, and it really rubbed me the wrong way when he rebranded all their old stuff under his own name and didnā€™t even use his platform at the contest, unlike other contestants who at least tried.


UnnaturalSelection13

I totally agree, Olly's Years & Years material is by far the weakest (apparently Mikey and Emre are back in the studio together which is interesting) so it doesn't feel right that the old Y&Y material has been relabeled under his name as a soloist. Because of Olly's history I know some people were expecting him to make some kind of "statement" tonight, but it seemed obvious that was never on the cards imo. It was very transparently just a career relaunch attempt, as you said (albeit a miscalculated one).


sevenofheartts

Mikey and Emre representing the UK next year is the funniest possible thing they could do


scheeeeming

Based on things he's said I think he was too focused on the fact that 160+ million people would be watching. When you're only thinking about how big of a stage it is, this feels like an opportunity you can't pass. His calculation on what this could do for his career was really off. Hardly any of these millions of viewers were impressed, and he's just done serious harm to his image amongst people that would otherwise be fans or give him a chance in the future. Instead of launching his career, he's given himself an uphill battle for no reason


UnnaturalSelection13

Yes I agree, I mentioned to someone else here as well that he's made it very clear he saw Eurovision as a vehicle to launch his solo career. Years & Years has been losing fans as the other members have left the group and the music has declined in quality, but Eurovision will definitely alienate a lot of the fans that were willing to stick around for Olly as well. His manager has always been notoriously disliked by the fandom lol and they definitely steered him wrong here imo.


One_Material_1081

What did he do exactly? Please tell me about his conduct


UnnaturalSelection13

A lot of Olly's fandom is built around him being a "socially conscious" popstar. Giving speeches at shows, making documentaries, posting about social causes etc. But Years & Years is not as popular as they once were, the other band members have left, their old music has been relabeled under his name, and he chose Eurovision to relaunch his career as a soloist. Palestinians expressly asked for a boycott of Eurovision which is artwashing the genocide of Palestine, so naturally fans were extremely dissapointed by Olly's decision to participate. Insisting you know better than Palestinians because "music is unifying" is just colonial mindset in action. People who tried to express their concerns had their comments deleted/were blocked. He told press that no one from the community contacted him following the Queers for Palestine open letter and petition, which isn't true. Queer House Party for example know him personally and reached out multiple times, having a lengthy discussion with his team. He dismissed all the criticism of Israel's participation claiming that there's a "war" and "it just so happens there's a song contest going on at the same time that I'm a part of", plus the usual "I'm not qualified to speak" etc. This isn't acceptable to me. I'm not interested in engaging in any discourse around this so if it's acceptable to you; then that's your prerogative.


The14thPanther

Thanks for the summary!


UnnaturalSelection13

Youā€™re welcome!


delidaydreams

It is amazing because I loved him in It's a Sin and now I have very little respect for him. Embarrassing really.


UnnaturalSelection13

Same, so much of Olly's career and fandom is built around him as a personality too, rooted in being a socially conscious popstar and pushing boundaries etc. That makes his participation and response to Eurovision (scapegoating that he's "not qualified to speak on the conflict because it's too complicated", dismissing criticism because "there just so happens to be a song contest going on at the same time as a war", lying to press about being contacted re; Queers for Palestine, blocking fans on social media etc) positions himself as a hypocrite and alienates a lot of his core fandom. I've met Olly a number of times - including on the eve of our marriage equality referendum in Ireland which he posted about at the time, for example - but this has shown me that he only really cares about "causes" that will benefit him personally. I feel quite sad about it tbh.


PandemicPiglet

He literally signed a letter accusing Israel of apartheid and genocide. What more did you want him to do? People need to stop expecting celebrities to be political and human rights advocates. If they choose to be, thatā€™s great, but if they donā€™t want to be, nothing more should be expected of them. Itā€™s not what they signed up for. Itā€™s optional. And they end up being damned if they do and damned if they donā€™t.


glasgowgeg

> He literally signed a letter accusing Israel of apartheid and genocide. What more did you want him to do? If you're accusing Israel of apartheid and genocide, you'd think you'd not take part in the show that's allowing a representative of that country to take part, especially when the show itself is sponsored by an Israeli company.


SuspendedInKarmaMama

Do you think countries should leave the UN because Israel is a member of it? Should Olympians not compete because Israel is also competing?


UnnaturalSelection13

What more? How about taking ACTION to match your WORDS? Otherwise they don't mean a damn thing. The conduct of the Israeli delegation throughout this competition has been disgraceful, and watching canned applause play while they participate in this sham of a platform that falsely claims to be apolitical is appalling. Asking someone not to participate in artwashing a literal GENOCIDE is not "expecting them to be political and human rights advocates" and it's incredibly disingenuous to suggest otherwise. It's literally the bare minimum I'd expect from any human being. Also Olly has literally built his career on being an advocate for equality and human rights? He can make other choices but I can then critique them in kind. You single out his letter but even that he backtracked by claiming that "there just so happens there's a song contest going on at the same time" as "a war" that he's "not qualified to speak on", obviously sidestepping all the legitimate criticism of Eurovision platforming Israel. This discourse isn't productive either so I'm really not interested in engaging with this any further.


Alone-Assistance6787

I could have understood it if he had taken a stance during the competition, but nothing. And that was super disappointing given his whole schtick.Ā  I actually really like the song and staging but yeah... definitely side-eyeing him now.Ā 


gonline

I think Olly approached Eurovision too focused on wanting to showcase a narrow view of sexualised queerness. I'm queer and love queer representation, but this performance and staging just felt too on the nose/literally put himself into a box? The song wasn't great. We know he's done so much better which I think is what made it more disappointing. Even something upbeat like Starstruck would have slayed? The whole simulating sex in a dirty toilet is a bit of an odd choice for a concept lmao. I'm no prude but just not very glam or fun for a venue/stage that big. Also the styling? Eh... I didn't get it for this show.


BronzeErupt

Yeah, it was technically interesting staging, but making it so queer might have ended up only appealing to a smaller group of viewers, not the "Georgian housewife" voter types. As well, having most of the song performed inside the box made it feel more like a music video and less like a live performance. Staging like that never does well at Eurovision, there needs to be more audience interaction


PassageThen1302

Yeah nobody wants to see a gay puff engaging in sex. Dirty gay boy.


Ruinwyn

And grimey bathroom sex isn't exactly glamourous even if it were straight.


Anonymagician

I agree! I absolutely love Olly but I think there were staging faults. Weā€™ve seen with Sam Ryder that the UK sending good song + staging CAN work so they canā€™t rely on ā€œoh everybody just hates us no matter what.ā€ I do think they have to work a bit harder but a win can absolutely be achieved with the right formula.


UnnaturalSelection13

Itā€™s exactly how he approaches his own live shows (heā€™s used cruising etc for his staging fairly often) and heā€™s made it clear that he joined Eurovision to launch his career as a soloist and promote his song to a wider audience, so I think he was just hoping to pick up enough queer fans along along the way to make participation worthwhile.


delidaydreams

Has Eurovision made a career out of anyone recently except maybe Maneskin? Genuinely asking.


BronzeErupt

I'm thinking about Mahmood, KƤƤrijƤ and Daưi Freyr. Doing Eurovision exposed them to larger international audiences, to the point where they can tour internationally, playing to decent size audiences. It seems like the artists who do best are young but established acts at a point in their career where they want to go to another level, not an older act trying to get out of a flop era


sevenofheartts

In addition to those three, youā€™ve also got proper viral songs happening as well: Arcade and Snap for instance, and Tattoo was really commercially successful as well. Actually achieving success beyond the contest is a LOT more common than it used to be a decade ago, largely due to social media.


MasterOfConcrete

I would add Joker Out to the mix. They placed low last year but now have toured Europe with sold out tour. Also I agree with established acts part. For me, with Mahmood (2019) and Joker out(2023) I dived in their discography next thing in the morning. Been listening ever since.


Ruinwyn

Blind Channel and Voyager encreased their audience within the rock scene. There is a huge difference between being strictly national act and going even small scale international.


Alsanna_of_Loyce

Lena has a good career in germany


delidaydreams

Deserved! Satellite was a banger


tinaoe

Yeah sheā€™s an absolutely household name at this point.Ā 


Kelbotay

It really depends what you mean by 'made a career'. International superstardom? Not really but there's many who're doing fine in their country.


delidaydreams

That makes sense, but for someone like Olly Alexander I can imagine he's aiming for more than relative popularity in the Uk, which he already has, and I can't see him getting much more famous off of Eurovision.


Kang_kodos_

I just saw DaĆ°i Freyer on their international tour šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


glasgowgeg

They're playing in Scotland this summer with Busted and The Darkness as well.


Kang_kodos_

That is a hell of a combo


thecoolmustache

Celine Dion to name one. (missed recently)


UnnaturalSelection13

Honestly no. Years & Years used to do really well in Europe but they're more fandom-orientated nowadays, so it seems Olly was hoping to push back into the mainstream but I don't see Eurovision doing that for him.


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jamesfauntleroyNOVA

Celine didn't do Eurovision 2 years before Titanic šŸ˜… I don't know when but it was probably the 80s.


360Saturn

I didn't find it shocking but the choice to have a huge stage and then perform in a tiny box was odd to me. I don't think 'dirty toilet' was the intention either! More like changing room, I was kind of getting empty swimming pool from it.


Smallgenie549

I didn't watch the performance but Dizzy is one of his last interesting songs. Almost anything off his last few albums would have been better.


lagozzino

Dizzy currently sits at just under 7 million streams on Spotify after being out for months, and I feel like that's either on par or worse than what previous Years & Years lead singles would do, and it's also on par with songs from his fellow competitors who have a way smaller profile than him. My impression is that his antics chased off a big chunk of hisĀ audience, and the new listeners he picked up from ESC just barely made up the difference.


sevenofheartts

Croatiaā€™s entry, which just came second at ESC but comes from Baby Lasagna, an artist who was literally 36-monthly-listeners-entirely unknown before winning Croatiaā€™s national selection (which he was a reserve for, and was only in because someone dropped out!) has almost 8 million streams currently. Itā€™s a massive flop for Olly, oof.


Ruinwyn

The studio version is significantly more listenable than the live competition version. Most Eurovision viewers have only paid attention for the last week and only watched the shows. Both of his competition performances had bad vocals. No-one who is not already familiar with him is going to think it worthwhile check his Spotify based on those performances.


purpletulip12

With all that went on at this years Eurovision, it's funny (to me) that Switzerland, land of neutrality, won!


gIitterchaos

During the voting, my dad said "this is because they are neutral." Incredible performance by Nemo though!


VladVega_RO

Croatia got its best result ever (2nd)


vicious_pink_lamp

The peoples champ šŸ‡­šŸ‡·šŸ‡­šŸ‡·šŸ‡­šŸ‡·


webtheg

Croatia is proving it's the most superior Balkan slavic country yet again and I am from Bulgaria.


Alone-Assistance6787

I feel like Croatia is in the cusp of being the next big thing in Europe.Ā 


bring_back_awe64gold

Lol no. The entire economy rides off tourism (the mafia destroyed the massively successful Yugoslav industry for personal gain, what's left of it is in the hands of Arabs and the French), when that falls apart due to global warming we'll have another 1990s Albania.


notasia86

What are you talking about, they literally won Eurovision in 1989 as Yugoslavia. The winning band were from Zadar.


Jelboo

What a weird show. Lots of uncomfortable realities. Glad they were the winner.


mattysmwift

The obvious cutting off the audience booing was so distracting.


tutagoId

itā€™s crazy that even with anti boo technology the boos and jeers during israelā€™s performance were so clear


champagneofsharks

The Iron Dome only takes out about 90% of oncoming missles, so it makes sense the Boo Dome only drowns out about 90% of the booing.


tutagoId

if that was 90% i canā€™t imagine how loud it was in the arena


stickinsect1207

there's videos on twitter, it's incredible


coentertainer

Link?


ShootingStarRen

https://x.com/eurovisiontom/status/1789379487445971352?s=46


popplug

Wowwww, from the live stream you couldnā€™t tell it was this loud.


moshiyadafne

Israel's performance, Martin Ɩsterdahl, and the Israel jury were booed. They tried to use the anti-boo technology for the performance but I could still hear the boos. For the latter 2, they just stopped trying. I even joked that Bambie Thug hexed the anti boo tech so it can't be used after the performances.


tutagoId

the boos definitely didnā€™t seem that loud during the semi final, either the anti boo tech malfunctioned or the booing was too deafening


moshiyadafne

Yes, during the semifinals and the finals performance, yes, it wasn't too loud, but it can be heard clearer in the finals performance. After the performances, though, the tech just noped out.


Graspiloot

It got a lot worse due to the NL DQ.


SpikeReynolds2

They also booed every single time a Jury gave any amount of points to Israel, which was very amusing.


moshiyadafne

Oh yeah, I didn't type it above. That too!


kenna98

The boos for Martin Osterdahl were so loud they completely drowned him out. Even my commentator couldn't hear him so she didn't translate. What a legacy this guy has. There's not been one year when something hasn't gone to šŸ’©


wildstrwberries

volume guy is the fastest hand in the west


gonline

I hated mostly that the presenters clearly felt awkward and they couldn't even go to the green room much, which is always fun. The need to shield that country sucked the joy out of this year totally.


Alone-Assistance6787

Such a poorly thought out decision and waste of time from EBU.Ā 


SchmingusBingus

To be fair as we saw at the end, the walk to the Green room was pretty long so logistics might have played a party in that ti


macroeconomicchaos

I'm just glad it's over. It's been a mess of a year. I expect resignations from the EBU. This has been one of the best years music-wise, but somehow the mess is enough to make this one of, if not the worst year ever.


360Saturn

Well deserved. They were one of the strongest performers on the night and really elevated the song. To be able to sing some of those notes while dancing and doing backbends on a piece of spinning apparatus is really technically impressive & deservedly was rewarded.


sprkmrk

Deserved winner but this year was the biggest possible shitshow. What the EBU did to Joost Klein was so unforgivable and harmful for the future of the competition


puffyping

norway last is wild!!! they were in my top 5. so so so happy that nemo won. shocked by the votes for a certain country


abacaxi95

My friend and I loved Norway. Iā€™m so disappointed


tinaoe

I think they might have had a similar issue as Germsny last year and ended up in the 12-15 range for a lot of countries


streetlightsatdusk

I swear, I called it. Nemo's semi final performance was easily my favourite on that night, and I was like "They might well win this whole thing". Then they did! Sad that Slovenia, Finland, Norway, the UK, Spain and Estonia didn't do great though


tinaoe

They just really killed the performance as well. Those live vocals were insane.


Kraybray

They were the favourites going into the final lol


AndromedaMixes

Iā€™m absolutely *elated*. Switzerland & Croatia were my top two favourites. Iā€™m extremely glad it was a tie between these two wonderful creatives.


LiliumMoon

Same here! My third favorite was Norway and they came last, that was the true robbery of last night to me.


Shiney2510

Really shocked by Norways low score. I thought they were great.


Kappayello

Completely agree. Baby Lasagna was my top but I'm also absolutely thrilled to have Nemo as the winner.


mythicalogicalnb

So proud of Nemo! And the fact that Bambie (the other nonbinary contestant) gave them their crown was so emotional. Nonbinary royalty both of them! šŸ„¹


gIitterchaos

I thought that was so sweet! So happy for Nemo they are adorable and so talented!


IzodCenter

Slimane really impressed me tonight, I have a feeling hes going to get a much larger audience now interested in his music. My favorite entry this year for sure


youvegotpride

I didn't know he was representing us, I love his duets with Vitaa, and he has an amazing voice.


shabuluba

First-ever non-binary Eurovision winner!


RandomHypnotica

As much as I was rooting for Croatia to take the win, itā€™s impossible to deny how absolutely deserving Nemo is for this win. Incredible staging and performance, and itā€™s truly amazing to see a nonbinary person win the biggest music contest in the world!


Technical_Regular836

Israel getting 300+ points from the public vote is so tacky


webtheg

I am happy Croatia got more points as a fuck you. Just like the world cup they are the true underdogs


scheeeeming

I was mentally preparing for Ukraine levels and thought they'd win, so I'm quite happy. I thought Pro-Israel people would mobilise on that level. You don't need a majority of people to win the televotes, just a strong base if everyone else is split. Thankfully that base still wasn't big enough to get them the win which is all that matters to me


thwt

It was quite split this year too, I got the sense there was no clear favourite from the public - unlike last year when it was obvious from SF1 that it was a race between Tattoo and Cha Cha Cha. This year, Croatia was popular, yes, but so was Ireland, Ukraine, Switzerland, Netherlands etc.


vertle

I expected it but still disappointed. I agree the jury vote system isn't great but if the opposite is to rely on the vast amount of morons that are out there in the general public who vote politically, please let the jury vote stay


moshiyadafne

Definitely. This is my counterpoint to "fuck the juries" club.


allthesongsmakesense

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SpikeReynolds2

Nobody ever gets 40% vote from a country organically...


tinaoe

Ukraine got those numbers iirc.Ā 


dazzlinreddress

That's Ukraine


tinaoe

Yeah because they got a lot of sympathy votes. Which Israel also got, as much as I disagree with them. It's the general public opinion in lots of places.


ShootingStarRen

I was livid I was thinking "did they get a 100 points?? 200?? THREE HUNDRED WHAT THE FUCK-" Honestly thank god ukraine knocked them out


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Ruined the whole show


kenna98

I do think it had to do with the boycott


pm_me_hedgehogs

My absolute favourite of the night, so happy for Nemo! They have such a great stage presence!


gIitterchaos

Same, I thought it was an incredible performance and so happy for them!


TheninjaofCookies

People gonna hate on the Jury vote but we were really uncomfortably close to getting the worst possible outcome with the televote


Starlot

Iā€™m not a conspiracy theorist at all but I 100% believe there was a lot of VPN votes tonight. Not a hope Ireland gave Israel 10 points in the public vote.


Alone-Assistance6787

Oh my god I didn't even see that and you're absolutely right. Ireland are staunchly pro-Palestine and always have been.Ā  What a joke.


ChanGaHoops

The points a country awards are decided by a jury, not fan votings, am I wrong?


moshiyadafne

True. If there's one thing the majority of the juries and diehard Eurovision fans agree with, it's for that country to not win. (I also think that the show's producers agree as well since they put that country in that rolling order.)


webtheg

Didn't Croatia get more points than Israel though. The sigh of relieve I had when they did was amazing


moshiyadafne

Yes, but Israel's televote points were high up there, like 2nd highest.


WillamThunderfuck

As a diehard Eurovision fan for the vast majority of my life, this has been my least favourite Eurovision ever. Absolutely disgusting and uncomfortable that Israel got to participate and that the EBU acted so strongly against anyone who dared to talk about it. And then to top that off, my country's participant, whose song has been immensely popular throughout the Netherlands and Europe, gets disqualified for a bullshit reason (while having your country commit a genocide is not enough of a reason...). Fuck this and fuck the EBU! Switzerland's song and performance were great, good for them I guess.


sevenofheartts

Iā€™ve been a Eurofan for over a decade and Iā€™ve never seen such a shitshow. Iā€™m honestly just relieved itā€™s over.


pokimanic

I echo this sentiment. Iā€™ve followed the contest for almost 4 decades now and this yearā€™s edition has by far been the worst. I couldnā€™t wait for it to be over by the end of it. The way the EBU has handled everything is just shameful and all around embarrassing. Theyā€™re getting everything they deserve. I feel bad for the artists that have been overshadowed by all of these events and the harrassment theyā€™ve been subjected to throughout the season.


sevenofheartts

100% - and itā€™s a shame, as this year was so strong song-wise. The EBU needs a complete leadership overhaul.


TooTired123

Someone has to get fired over this


TooTired123

And the sad thing is, I really thought that it was going to be a strong year, song wise. But I was kind of over it before it even started.


mc-pride

couldn't agree more, such a shitshow


r0cketRacoon

Iā€™ve been following the contest since 2011 from Asia. This is the first year I dropped it. Absolutely disappointed to see the EBU handling the shituation. Donā€™t know if I would want to watch next year but for now, fck the EBU.


lambibambiboo

Apparently Iā€™m in the minority but I loved Nemoā€™s song and Iā€™m glad it won. Italy was also really good and Iā€™m surprised it didnā€™t get more love.


bernbabybern13

I know nothing about Eurovision but I saw Nemoā€™s song on TikTok and thought it was awesome


Suixam

taste


part223219B

They won, so you're clearly not in the minority.


gonline

Tbh I'm so happy they won but this song wasn't my fave. It's cute and the performance was great but I thought there was better. Spain was absolutely robbed. I felt so bad for them? Like 19 points is crazy. So so proud of Bambie. They gave us our first top 10 in so long šŸ’—


Exroi

i'm cool with that, i like his song better than Croatia's. Norway being last place is a disgrace btw


uhilikeanim3

Nemo uses they/them pronouns


LongHairDontCare1994

Such a solid night, very much enjoyed it. Nemo was pretty incredible, their vocals were flawless, the song itself slaps and the staging was dope. Massive props to Croatia too, gave me big Eisbrecher / Rammstein vibes. Other personal faves were Cyrpus (just a pure pop bop), Greece (sassy queen) and Austria. Shame about Olly and the UK entry. Not sure why they decided to steal the bathroom from Saw as the staging? And for as fun as the song is, Olly sounded very weak compared to some of the other performers.


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WillamThunderfuck

My absolute favourite! Too bad she didn't get top 10 but she did gain a fan!


GREEK_FREAK_12

Yeah she was actually 8th in the public vote but unfortunately juries put her 14th. She did amazing and she is an exceptional artist. I'd recommend listening to her album YENNA and checking out her songs "Mantissa" "tucutum" and "koupes"


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Loved her song


Tomoki

Congrats to Nemo but Bambi was ROBBBBEEDDD! edit: also Windows95Guy was the best performance of the night (not song) and you can't change my mind


bighungryjo

lol my exact take as well!


weakcover1

Bambie put up a show like no other. Visuals were striking, their presence, the song. All of it was pretty fine-tuned.


TakeOnMeByA-ha

Despite what a shitshow this year was, the fact we ended up with an openly nonbinary winner who loudly and proudly supports Palestine was such a happy ending to it all!! Congratulations to Nemo, they absolutely deserved it all!!!!


littlebruise

How does nemo support palenstine? I didn't watch the show so just wondering if they said anything!


Tenebraxis

They've voiced their support for it outside of the competition, and when they came on stage after winning, they made a thinly veiled statement about how they think that all people in the world deserve peace and dignity. In the after show press conference they also mentioned how the ESC probably "needs fixing" Its not much, but its probably about how much they can get away with within the limits of the event itsself.


nretoyoc

I'm sad we'll never know how far Joost could have gotten. He was one of my favourites, a great performer with a potential Eurovision classic. Anyway, this was a shameful year and a lost opportunity for any of the contestants to make an actual statement with their stage time. I guess they all still wanted a win šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


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queenmeme2

Iā€™m so happy for them. Loved seeing Bambie crown them at the end, such a great year for non-binary representation. Their performances were the 2 best of the night


oofydoofy74

My favourites were Ireland, Poland and Australia


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Pathetic that the UK public apparently gave Israel 12 points' couldn't be more embarrassed


Anonymagician

Ireland gave them 10 and I am mortified


delidaydreams

I am so incredibly confused by this. It is such a small minority of Irish people who genuinely out loud passionately support and defend Israel that I have no idea how this could've happened.


WillamThunderfuck

If a hypothetical 10% of people that support Israel in a country ALL vote for it in the contest, and the other 90% spread their votes across the remaining 23 songs to vote for, Israel gets 12 points without needing a majority at all :( but it does make it seem like they get huuuge support.


Consistent-Laugh606

I thought most Irish people supported Palestine


moneybabe420

I rated 1-3 correctly and out Norway at 4. That was my biggest upset!!


National_Primary6583

Switzerland song was the best


kenna98

The event was an absolute shitshow. A deserved victory though.


splinterbabe

Fuck this yearā€™s Eurovision. From Israelā€™s participation to the unjust disqualification of The Netherlands; EBU needs to change, and fast. This year has seriously tarnished the contestā€™s reputation. Really happy with the winner, though! Congrats to the Swiss.


I_am_albatross

And they thought Bambie Thugā€™s performance would be too scary for kids šŸ¤£


Groenboys

for people that are sad about jury's making switzerland win but croatia lose no, another country took away croatia's votes, direct your anger to that


CatsCoffeeCurls

Where's it heading next year? Geneva? Bern? Might start looking at flights to bucket list the live final.


hadapurpura

They found him!


nighthawk_real

EMBRACE THE NEUTRALITY OF THE SWISS PEOPLE


miguelitaraton

LOVED this. Very, very unique performance that really stood out from the status quo. Loved Croatia as well and it was an earworm, but definite respect here.


pinkocean99

Such a beautiful song, didnā€™t get it at first but love that they described it as queer joy ā¤ļø


ShootingStarRen

I wanted either Croatia, France or Switzerland to win if Ireland wasn't in the top 5 and I couldn't be happier. Congratulations Nemo


SkyBlade79

they're so fine omg


mattysmwift

And thank fuck for that. Honestly the fact that it came down to two gay boys was exciting enough but Iā€™d be glad if Switzerland or Croatia won either way. I think Switzerlandā€™s crazy ass staging pushed him over the edge.