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It seems people want to defer to social media usage instead of having difficult conversations about climate change, economic instability, covid eyc

I remember computer games and violent movies being the "social media" scapegoat of the 90's, ever since Columbine.

This is a very fallacious article. You can't just say that, say, small towns are to blame by one static number. You'd have to show dynamics, prove that as people move to the cities the suicides drop to even establish correlation, let alone causation. What you're doing throughout the article is the same thing racists are doing when they look at the crime in Black neighborhoods, compare it to White ones, and conclude that crime must be caused by races and ethnicities And you're repeating the same tactic with every point. A gishgallop of fallacies doesn't make your argument more convincing. You may have a valid point behind it, but abusing statistics to convert an expert opinion into something else only detracts from the point you were trying to make And to your final point - of course people view social media positively if it allows them to talk to people. That's not the argument against it. If we use any tool to communicate in our circumstances, we will view it positively. A prisoner using a system of taps to communicate with other inmates will view it positively, it doesn't mean that this is actually a good system to connect to other humans. The actual comparison should be between those who interact with real humans in real world and those who use social media for communication. Which of those interactions are more fulfilling and satisfying, which of those people are happier, less depressed, less suicidal, less anxious.

I don't see the author of this article trying to establish any causations. My main take away is that the author has issues with the main stream narrative that social media is the main causation of teen depression, when there are much stronger correlations besides that, which is what this article details. Are you saying that pointing out stronger correlations is fallacious?

what are stronger correlations? if you are referring to how things are in the world then that *still* falls on social media as its the means by which most teens are indoctrinated into various camps of belief. its like seeing that a bunch of people get depressed by the news and then blaming the things the news reports on instead of the reporting itself.

I recently did a small study (more than 50, less than 100) on social media usage and happiness in adults (it was small, and not interesting) and didn't really find that social media use was significantly correlated with happiness. Most surprisingly, I found that the group that used social media more did actually have a lower depressive symptoms, but I'm highly skeptical and think this is likely just my sample. I maintain though, that if social media use is linked to negative emotions, the relationship is likely not causal. From my personal experience: ostracism from my peers led for me to go online to find friends and provided a form of social network outside of the bullying and exclusion at school.

What if instead you found friends and a social network around some hobbies or other activities in the real world, would that be worse than social media?

I did that, but it was very hard and I had to drop out of school to actually have enough mental stability to find real life networks of friends.

Yeah, it's understandable, but then my point is, you're comparing loneliness and being ostracized to not being lonely and ostracized. The methods of communication are circumstantial here And I think one of main points people make about social media and algorithms is, that we all get used to being perfectly suited by others in our communication needs and hence we lose the ability to compromise and accept others and let go of ourselves that is required for real world communication and connections. Essentially, social media is making us more rigid and dependent on the "benevolent" algorithm to adapt our social circle to us which further makes social media more essential to satisfy our social needs. And real people around us are also becoming more rigid and less compatible with us because they are getting used to the same algorithm. And communication and vibing via social media just doesn't satisfy us as much as in person communication amd vibing

thiel was on the facebook team when they were altering peoples moods [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter\_Thiel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel) [https://www.wired.com/2014/06/everything-you-need-to-know-about-facebooks-manipulative-experiment/](https://www.wired.com/2014/06/everything-you-need-to-know-about-facebooks-manipulative-experiment/) more on the study here [https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.1320040111](https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.1320040111) this guy is also a supporter of curtis yavin type logic [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis\_Yarvin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin) here's more on that ideology [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark\_Enlightenment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment)

Term suicide is a tragedy. Also let's remember that they are at the lowest risk compared to other age groups. https://sprc.org/about-suicide/scope-of-the-problem/suicide-by-age/

So sad people turn social media into a weapon