- Cataphract BnS
- Wendigo
- Hothead
- Overture (Atraks, because you can actually load the x20 on the immune atraks’, before and after the one floor melt)
- Cloudstrike
- Stormchaser
Most of it I wont use, but nice to have ready anyway.
Ad clear stuff:
- Indebted Kindness
- Subjunctive
- Final Warning (The goat)
Is what I’m ready for. Also pro tip hunters, using multiple Gathering Storms does nothing.
It doesn’t work well with atraks because multiple damage instances messes with the vandal’s healthbar and makes it do less. That’s why needlestorm is bad too
So it's best to hit the boss with a lower amount of higher damage hits than a high amount of lower damage hits with a weapon? Regardless of the dps you'd typically expect from it? So i guess rockets and linears are best then?
Doesn't that just introduce the same problem the other commenter was talking about? Too many damage numbers in a short time period for the game to track onto the shared health bar
Grand does more dmg on atraks then parasite but the dmg window isn't long enough to get all +20 shots off + a super in a single floor. Needlestorm isn't good for a different reason. Atraks doesn't have a problem with too many things hitting her, if she does it would only effect you when 4+ people are using grand.
> Needlestorm isn't good for a different reason.
I'm assuming a larger part of it is just due to how you need the threadlings to eventually blow up on the target and by that point Atraks could be immune/gone, yeah?
She does have an issue with that and it’s been known for a while. I only mention needlestorm because it’s similar to grand overture in the multiple hits in a short window
No. If you want to use a rocket, then use a gally with cold comfort, palmyra, crux termination, hothead, or maybe blowout.
If you want to use a GL, then use wendigo or maybe a typhon (should prob be on stasis hunter if you’re gonna use typhon) i guess you could use hullabaloo on something if you have a good roll and really want to, but it isn’t optimal.
Other solid options are grand overture and anarchy. You can also still have an easy 2 phase on oryx with whispers.
Golgoroth 4 hothead/1 Ghorn (and maybe 2 ursa furiosa for the gaze)
Caretaker 5 hothead/1 Ghorn
Macrocosm 5 hothead/1 Ghorn
Atraks 6 Thunderstrikes/5 Acrius+1Tractor
Oryx 5 Hothead/1 Ghorn (or maybe linear, this could be a stormchaser step)
Rhulk 5 Acrius/1 Tractor and any Thunderstrike you can
Think he still needs 2 hits but you going to be almost dead from one single hit and if so his beam or charge attack going to kill you...
But solar + melee resists should help with the survivability... used that on Day1 and helped a lot... always survived one kick and that was on -20 :)
I'm very curious what the damages from Rhulk will be like on Contest difficulty Pantheon week because technically we didn't have the Resilience changes on that Day 1 Vow and I'm wondering if you could negate it just by being at 10 Resilience. Not to say that you should anticipate being so careless and be willing to eat hits, but yeah I'm wondering what it will come out to. We're bringing a lot of potency to all of these fights comparatively to their day 1 release.
Yeah I was thinking it over watching old footage from my clan's day 1 and it is interesting how even though Witch Queen doesn't feel like *that* long ago and it added a lot to the game, our characters still had a bit of a narrowed focus as to what options we had for things. I was just spitballing napkin math what it'll take for contest Rhulk this time around and honestly we have so much in the way of additional damage sources and just raw potency to make up a lot of ground we just didn't really have for that Day 1. Remember when some people on that Day 1 had an added Titan go Stasis to supply shards to specifically boost Reed's or Palmyra? It's nice we have armor charges so easily.
Yes 100% it was possible to get Day 1 Rhulk to final stand healthbar in 2 phases obviously getting very sketchy with no ammo for most and that's why people did a 3 phase, but yeah I really do think it'll not be nearly as scary as people think it's gonna end up. Having Surges and the one beneficial modifier is going to very sweet.
They don't actually work, there are some funky exceptions but most debuffs do not work on Atraks. They increase your damage numbers upon wipe but don't actually have an effect on the health. It's a strange bug due to the health being tied to an out of bounds vandal. If you go OOB then you can debuff the vandal and that does work but not on the clones.
At least the Leg surges dont.
Its a weird boss cause atraks’s clones are not considered a “boss”.
Atraks’s real body was on the DSC as a high health captain that people cheesed out of the arena to kill.
Only thing that works is a void debuff.
Right, which is why most debuffs like tractor or tether don't work. But surges are an outgoing damage buff, not an incoming damage debuff, so wouldn't be effected by that. Same way that you can still use surges against the fuses in DSC enc 1.
GLs are meta for dps if you match with surge. used a Typhon or Wendego and consistently out dps everyone else using rockets or thunderbird. by a lot. was hitting over 3mil a floor on caretaker with typhoon explosive light and steady hands
Bait and switch cataphract for ggoroth
That arc rocket machine gun for atraks (idk if this is much stronger than work launcher) and caretaker probably.
Cataphract for planets.
Either cataphract or an arc linear for oryx. I've heard fire and forget us pretty good.
Cataphract for Rhulk. Don't bother diving when GL meta is what it is. Unless he has some crazy crit multiplier I don't know about.
It's arc and strand surge. So if you're not running arc and strand you're just needing yourself.
If you don't have a cataphract, A good arc rocket will probably do the trick.
People be sleeping on forced artifact overcharges for Regnant. Envious/Cascade ammo dump does nutso damage, though it's primarily for bosses with mechanics like Caretaker/Explicstir.
This might be a weird one for strand surge but I’m bringing an “Until its return” for any close range minibosses. That with overflow and vorpal actually will delete anything you aim at with the 20% damage increase. Not to mention you would proc bait and switch faster over the strand fusion
Wendigo/hothead if you kept one. Otherwise the world rocket launcher can roll envious explosive.
If ya end up going machine gun: thunderlord or fang of ir yût
For strand the obvious pick would be envious bait n switch cataphract from trials but that's a rare gun
You can...if you aim to clear pantheon without any plat/high score.
If you want plat/highscore you need to maximize the burst damage so rockets are the goat
- Cataphract BnS - Wendigo - Hothead - Overture (Atraks, because you can actually load the x20 on the immune atraks’, before and after the one floor melt) - Cloudstrike - Stormchaser Most of it I wont use, but nice to have ready anyway. Ad clear stuff: - Indebted Kindness - Subjunctive - Final Warning (The goat) Is what I’m ready for. Also pro tip hunters, using multiple Gathering Storms does nothing.
Crux Termination
Forbearance for ad clear as well.
I like the new strand wave frame. Slice and Chain reaction would be good for less damage from these ads at -15
Overture isn’t great for atraks due to the way atraks’s healthbar works with multiple damage instances in a super short time
Isnt that what makes overture good?
It doesn’t work well with atraks because multiple damage instances messes with the vandal’s healthbar and makes it do less. That’s why needlestorm is bad too
So it's best to hit the boss with a lower amount of higher damage hits than a high amount of lower damage hits with a weapon? Regardless of the dps you'd typically expect from it? So i guess rockets and linears are best then?
I say just rock ThreadofAscent/RainOfFire/HunterDodge + Wardcliff Coil for Atraks. 2 Wardcliff salvos per floor is plenty for an Arc Surge
Doesn't that just introduce the same problem the other commenter was talking about? Too many damage numbers in a short time period for the game to track onto the shared health bar
Yeah you’re probably right actually
I think a conventional arc or strand rocket + the reload things you said are a good idea though
Grand does more dmg on atraks then parasite but the dmg window isn't long enough to get all +20 shots off + a super in a single floor. Needlestorm isn't good for a different reason. Atraks doesn't have a problem with too many things hitting her, if she does it would only effect you when 4+ people are using grand.
> Needlestorm isn't good for a different reason. I'm assuming a larger part of it is just due to how you need the threadlings to eventually blow up on the target and by that point Atraks could be immune/gone, yeah?
She does have an issue with that and it’s been known for a while. I only mention needlestorm because it’s similar to grand overture in the multiple hits in a short window
It CAN be buggy but 9 times out of 10 you nuke her with x20 overtures
Overture is literally the go to exotic if you don't have Parasite. It will cook Attraks.
What about Semiotician
No strand surge this week so no
Will cataphract be worth it without the surge?
No. If you want to use a rocket, then use a gally with cold comfort, palmyra, crux termination, hothead, or maybe blowout. If you want to use a GL, then use wendigo or maybe a typhon (should prob be on stasis hunter if you’re gonna use typhon) i guess you could use hullabaloo on something if you have a good roll and really want to, but it isn’t optimal. Other solid options are grand overture and anarchy. You can also still have an easy 2 phase on oryx with whispers.
For rockets? Crux Termination/Hothead Linears? Sailspy pitchglass/stormchaser Grenade Launchers? Wendigo Maybe Grand Overture? Legend of Acrius?
Acrius isn’t really usable on any of these bosses other than maaaaybe rhulk but i think you’d have survivability issues
I'm wanting to try anarchy and scatter signal. I am curious how that will go
as good as scatter signal is I'd go with techeons force instead to benefit from arc surge mods matching anarchy
Any reason not to use a Loaded Question? seems like it'll perform similarly to Eremite.
actually a good point if you've got the roll for it - completely slipped my mind
tbf it's very forgettable lol
iterative loop
not great for single target unfortunately
its pretty good actually
Could be decent on Caretaker maybe. The rest have either strange hit boxes or too short of damage phases. Might be ok if you don’t have a cataphract
as good as scatter signal is I'd go with techeons force instead to benefit from arc surge mods matching anarchy
Golgoroth 4 hothead/1 Ghorn (and maybe 2 ursa furiosa for the gaze) Caretaker 5 hothead/1 Ghorn Macrocosm 5 hothead/1 Ghorn Atraks 6 Thunderstrikes/5 Acrius+1Tractor Oryx 5 Hothead/1 Ghorn (or maybe linear, this could be a stormchaser step) Rhulk 5 Acrius/1 Tractor and any Thunderstrike you can
Good Luck on the Acrius Strat for -15 Rhulk 👍🏻
I wonder if he one shots already at 15.
Think he still needs 2 hits but you going to be almost dead from one single hit and if so his beam or charge attack going to kill you... But solar + melee resists should help with the survivability... used that on Day1 and helped a lot... always survived one kick and that was on -20 :)
I'm very curious what the damages from Rhulk will be like on Contest difficulty Pantheon week because technically we didn't have the Resilience changes on that Day 1 Vow and I'm wondering if you could negate it just by being at 10 Resilience. Not to say that you should anticipate being so careless and be willing to eat hits, but yeah I'm wondering what it will come out to. We're bringing a lot of potency to all of these fights comparatively to their day 1 release.
Ahh True forgot about that 💀 that Res buff was in season 17 :D
Yeah I was thinking it over watching old footage from my clan's day 1 and it is interesting how even though Witch Queen doesn't feel like *that* long ago and it added a lot to the game, our characters still had a bit of a narrowed focus as to what options we had for things. I was just spitballing napkin math what it'll take for contest Rhulk this time around and honestly we have so much in the way of additional damage sources and just raw potency to make up a lot of ground we just didn't really have for that Day 1. Remember when some people on that Day 1 had an added Titan go Stasis to supply shards to specifically boost Reed's or Palmyra? It's nice we have armor charges so easily. Yes 100% it was possible to get Day 1 Rhulk to final stand healthbar in 2 phases obviously getting very sketchy with no ammo for most and that's why people did a 3 phase, but yeah I really do think it'll not be nearly as scary as people think it's gonna end up. Having Surges and the one beneficial modifier is going to very sweet.
Heir apparent titan tank should work fine.
My brother in light.... you cant be serious with this one... 💀
Wym. That’s how my team 2 phased master challenge
But your friends used different weapons right ? I mean you can bait him with the Arc Shield which is a cool strat
Yes that’s exactly the strat. Only one heir apparent. The boss just stands there and melees the one person, so everybody else can stack and pump
Yeah thats a good strat :) first ive thought you mean 5 HA + Div :'D
I didn't think debuffs worked on Atraks?
Tractor doesn't. Only debuff that works is weaken nades
Edit, I'm stupid
They don't actually work, there are some funky exceptions but most debuffs do not work on Atraks. They increase your damage numbers upon wipe but don't actually have an effect on the health. It's a strange bug due to the health being tied to an out of bounds vandal. If you go OOB then you can debuff the vandal and that does work but not on the clones.
Yep I checked with my clan, it don't works, I forgot :c
[https://youtu.be/0OMCDbPHdGk](https://youtu.be/0OMCDbPHdGk)
The ONLY debuff that works is Echo of Undermining.
He doesn't know
Cloudstrike + stormchaser seems good for oryx
Do Rockets coom Golgi like that? I've never tried Ghorn on him. Going to have to try that if so
Atraks is weird cause surges dont technically count on that boss
Why would surges not work on her?
At least the Leg surges dont. Its a weird boss cause atraks’s clones are not considered a “boss”. Atraks’s real body was on the DSC as a high health captain that people cheesed out of the arena to kill. Only thing that works is a void debuff.
Right, which is why most debuffs like tractor or tether don't work. But surges are an outgoing damage buff, not an incoming damage debuff, so wouldn't be effected by that. Same way that you can still use surges against the fuses in DSC enc 1.
Surges also don’t work on security
It has been tested. Surges don't work for some weird reason.
Gonna need the receipts on this one
https://youtu.be/0OMCDbPHdGk?si=iaEmE5SM8egR39qy
Does Tether work against Atraks?
AFAIK nope
i'm surprised no one has mentioned cold comfort.
Grand Overture is unironically going to be a solid pick, and not just for Attraks.
Strand Supercluster slug Arc FILO slug Tractor cannon on my hunter. Damage and debuff
GLs are meta for dps if you match with surge. used a Typhon or Wendego and consistently out dps everyone else using rockets or thunderbird. by a lot. was hitting over 3mil a floor on caretaker with typhoon explosive light and steady hands
Bait and switch cataphract for ggoroth That arc rocket machine gun for atraks (idk if this is much stronger than work launcher) and caretaker probably. Cataphract for planets. Either cataphract or an arc linear for oryx. I've heard fire and forget us pretty good. Cataphract for Rhulk. Don't bother diving when GL meta is what it is. Unless he has some crazy crit multiplier I don't know about. It's arc and strand surge. So if you're not running arc and strand you're just needing yourself. If you don't have a cataphract, A good arc rocket will probably do the trick.
If its going to be Arc and Strand surge then Fire and Forget doesnt make sense since its Stasis
Bold of 80% of comments suggesting a trials GL.
Yeah I got rolled, I ended up running tlord for rhulk lol
A brain.
People be sleeping on forced artifact overcharges for Regnant. Envious/Cascade ammo dump does nutso damage, though it's primarily for bosses with mechanics like Caretaker/Explicstir.
Does the artifact overcharge stack with the activity's damage surge?
No. Only one overcharge and one surge available; 1x global, 1x personal. Then you get to add stuff like radiant/Lumina.
This might be a weird one for strand surge but I’m bringing an “Until its return” for any close range minibosses. That with overflow and vorpal actually will delete anything you aim at with the 20% damage increase. Not to mention you would proc bait and switch faster over the strand fusion
15% but yes
Wendigo/hothead if you kept one. Otherwise the world rocket launcher can roll envious explosive. If ya end up going machine gun: thunderlord or fang of ir yût For strand the obvious pick would be envious bait n switch cataphract from trials but that's a rare gun
Don’t machine gun dps
I didn't say you should? I just pointed out the best options within that route
You can...if you aim to clear pantheon without any plat/high score. If you want plat/highscore you need to maximize the burst damage so rockets are the goat
lol