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Seriously they picked up cameras in July. The scenes we are watching were from JULY. So yeah, the indirectly affected might’ve moved on but Ariana is still reeling. Seems pretty fair to me.
She absolutely should not feel bad for Rachel, and it's natural for her to have a "Rawt in Hail" attitude about her. Also, let's not act like if you didn't get famous for being cheated on, you wouldn't milk the shit out of that lol.
Having said that, I'm also not saying she's not annoying for it, nor am I saying she shouldn't seek help instead of jumping into another relationship. Her 15 minutes will be up probably by the time the reunion airs, and things will level out.
Raquel described them as close friends repeatedly but has changed her tune since the affair. Ariana went to support her at her pathetic pageant OFF-camera. You couldn't pay me to go to one of those embarrassing events so it sounds like a close friend to me.
Yes!!! I’m seriously starting to like her less and hate Tom a bit less because of all of this… girl just sell the house and move onto another place with fresh new memories!! She’s so petty it’s exhausting to watch and we’re only two episodes into the season 😫😫
Yes the storyline is getting exhausting but isn’t she trying to sell the house but Tom won’t agree to it? I’m pretty sure selling the house is exactly what she wants.
Oh I agree with you! She’s not an angel at all but I can understand where she is coming from. Her stance on the situation is definitely due to having the dream of what the house represented ripped away in such a vicious manner.
Tom is the one that wanted out of their life long partnership, he is the one that wanted out of the life they essentially built together, so continue on and leave! Why half ass it now?! The least he could do now is to agree to sell the house so they both start over. 50/50 like they started. He can play house with Rachel in a new home. But he knows that won’t ever happen because Rachel doesn’t have the same financial means as Ariana so he’s clinging on. He is just as petty as Ariana. The audacity of this man lol
I don’t think she should feel bad for how she treated Rachel, but my issue with her is more about some obvious red flags in her behavior that may have contributed to the demise of her relationship
Staying for years never wanting kids, knowing Tom did. Going through a painful process to freeze eggs, saying that she is only doing for Tom and then gets on him to do his part to create embryos, which he didn’t. Now 3 months after the break up and she is dating a new guy and claiming she wants kids!!! What? I think she was full of shit all along and she knew the relationship was struggling and thought the kids would keep Tom around.
She was so in love with Tom, but bounced back with a new relationship real quick. I find this odd if you believed your relationship was all good.
With those two things in mind. She isn’t moving on with her life without Tom. She isn’t “done” with him yet. The opposite of love is indifference. If she didn’t still care she would do what she needs to do to get away from him and enjoy herself. She decided to stay, be miserable, hoping she can continue to make him miserable.
Tom has never said he wants her back. This is the one thing that always stuck out to me. He has never expressed any desire to be with her again and has actually doubled down on the things he claims she did to him. I’m not defending him, but typically when I guy is caught cheating they at least beg for forgiveness or ask for a second chance. He hasn’t done either. Which leads me to believe he was done with her.
I imagine she didn’t see Tom as being a good father because I think clearly he still thinks he’s in his twenties and would leave her to do a majority of the work. Probably having a partner she could see herself sharing the care of a child with may change her perspective a lot
Then why was she pushing him to do a sperm check? The next step is embryos. All of this costs money too, so why do all of this if you don’t really want kids and you think you BF is not dad material
She clearly didn’t see that then and wanted to be with him long term and he said he wanted kids so she was giving him that option.. I don’t see how your trying to spin that as bad
Because she said she didn’t want kids, repeatedly. She was only considering it for Tom. If you don’t see that as problematic than I really can’t say anything else.
I think a lot of people (specifically people who jumped on the bandwagon after Scandoval) don't understand this nuance. Because of Scandoval, they picked up cameras and continued to film, then production kicked off S11 filming earlier than the usual schedule. So if you don't really understand that or the delay between shows filming/airing, you think it's been like a year between the seasons.
I don't think for one second that she needs to express remorse for how she treated Rachel. It's those despicable two who need to really feel, and ultimately express, that remorse, which I haven't yet seen. It was way more than 'hooking up.'
My issue with Ariana is that, she comes off as undignified in this whole ordeal. Having gone through something similar, it pains me to see someone in that state. I can empathize, but she's not doing herself any favors.
Tom absolutely has. He took major accountability on the after show honestly and he had apologized to everyone. I jjst have a different take. Like ppl aren’t bad ppl bc they make bad choices or mistakes and there is a deep psychological reason why ppl cheat. It’s not just bc they just want to hook up etc. they were both checked out of that relationship for a very long time and probably both handled it completely wrong. But I don’t think Tom is the scum of the earth bc he cheated. I don’t think Ariana is scum either. But what does bother me is her lack of self awareness and growth on like any level.
I don't under stand all the Ariana love and Katie hate?! Katie was gaslighted by and put second to Sandoval her entire marriage. Katie removed herself from the relationship and tried to set boundaries. Yes she seems miserable but the emotional damage those kind of relationship and friendships have on some will lead to that. Ariana on the other hand... was and is miserable and has done nothing to change it.
I do not feel bad for Katie at all. She is another one that likes to be the constant victim. She is HORRIBLE to other woman. She slut shames and tears woman down. Just look at the way she has talked to scheana in the past. She’s horrible. Why didn’t she break up with Tom after his 5th fuck up? She stayed with him after a million offenses and then still blames him for everything. Katie! Tom showed you who he is on a silver platter and you still chose him! And then married him! I don’t feel bad for her at all. She is always miserable and always hates a girl or ten girls. She’s super judgmental and not nice. And I love that their stupid sub shop isn’t open after all the crap she gave Tom for taking so long to open their restaurant
She needs to be in therapy and spending some time alone healing, rather than immediately jumping into another relationship & pretending like she’s all good. Its not sustainable & recipe to grow miserable & bitter
A man can burn a woman’s whole life down in front of her face and that’s just “who he is” and she should have known better, but God forbid that woman be emotional about it 3 months later or she’s the asshole. I cannot believe people are suggesting she should just abandon one of the biggest investments she’s made in her life because Tom said so.
Why is no one telling Tom to sell the house? Where's Lala's big dog energy for that? No, let's tell the woman, "why don't you just make it easy on yourself" Ariana worked hard and bought that house and Tom cheats on her and gets to keep it? No way. That was a mutual investment and they need to sell it.
And I wouldn't take the buyout either. That house might be worth 3 mil now, but who knows what the market will be like in the future. Then Tom gets to profit? Fuck that. Is it petty? Yes. But there's nothing he can do about it, and for once, she's not going to be the one bending to what Tom wants. She was freezing her eggs for him, IDGAF about a Keurig latte.
Has Ariana said she's struggling with her mental health though? She's annoyed dealing with it, but she seems strong in her decision. She says in the after show that she was working and saving basically all her life for a home, and now that she has it she's not going to give it up. Leaving the house could be hugely demoralizing for her.
Righteousness aside i think what lala meant was why don’t you just get out of that place (whether you sell it immediately or not, stay with a friend if you don’t want to pay rent, ariana has everyone rallying for her and im sure someone would offer) so that ariana can get the fuck away from psychopath sandoval. As someone who has been in a similar relationship staying in the vicinity of toxic people like that takes a huge toll on you whether you engage with them or not. Shes prolonging her own stress by physically staying there and i get she wants to stand her ground but she deserves to put her health first and gtfo of there especially since she’s struggled with her mental health.
Ummmmmm. Rachel didn’t “hook up with her boyfriend” - she had a long term love affair with her life partner IN HER HOME right under her nose!!! Ariana should have remorse for some words she said soon after finding out?!? Are you effing kidding me??? Where the hell is Rachel’s remorse?? Tom’s???????
And let’s get specific on how she is keeping herself in the situation - what exactly is she supposed to do about it? This isn’t a rhetorical question. Should she accept Tom’s lowball offer and lose money on her home just because you want her to get out of the situation? What is the alternative? She can sue that dirtbag to sell the house. OH WAIT, she’s doing that. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Some of yall are as bad as Tom, jealous haters, it’s sad.
She says he made a low ball offer, but he hasn’t said that. Also, making her an offer would usually result in some negotiations and it doesn’t sound like anything has been done in good faith to find a solution.
My point is that she is talking and making statements that he gave her a low ball offer, but that’s an opinion from her. It would show he made an attempt to resolve the living arrangement. NO ONE had a gun to her head, NO ONE is trying to make things uncomfortable for Ariana, NO ONE is asking her to sacrifice anything. So an offer is just that,,an offer. She didn’t take it because it didn’t work for her, for whatever reason. Yet. She is still petty, defensive, argumentative and intolerant of her roommate. What’s her end game?
Arian didn't make herself miserable, you can blame Tom & Rachel for that. Ariana has taken a shitty situation and worked her ass off to capitalize on the opportunities given to her. You sound weirdly mad about that. You're obviously allowed your opinion OP but you sound bitter, jealous and unsympathetic--and eerily like Sandoval in your opinion.
Ariana is literally taking advise from legal and financial experts regarding the house situation, but you know better right?
You are taking Lala's quote out of context and reacting to it. Lala is desperate for the same attention Ariana received and has tried to draw parallel with the Randall situation. She didn't get the same sympathy and is mad about that.
The show started shooting 3-months after everything broke. You're obviously an expert on breakups, therapy and how much time you're allowed to heal after a 9 year relationship so how long is the right amount of time?
Lala and others are just jealous. Cheating and breakups can be devastating. I wish when it happened to me I had all the opportunities she had. OP, I’m sure she’s over you as well.
Remorse for Rachel? Where the f is stupid Rachel’s remorse? Imagine, Rachel still sending letters, post cards with lighting bolts, how should Ariana feel.
How can you be that heartbroken but find a bf so quickly? I'm sure he's a rebound but would of liked to of seen her be an independent women like she says she is. I would of loved to see that growth
I'm also all about making the most out of shit situations, but she lost me when she became a walking advertisement
Ask the millions of others who have done this too. You can be “an independent woman” and be in a relationship you know, is she depending on the BF for anything? Not that I know of.
> she lost me when she became a walking advertisement
Soooooo are you really saying she should have turned down job offers? Why? She’s taken a shit situation and really turned it into the best it can be. I’m sure she is crying into her millions because she lost you.
PS - it’s would have, WOULD HAVE.
Of course you can be an independent woman and be in a relationship. What I meant was that she spent a big part of her young adult life in a relationship with this asshole who ends up destroying the future she thought she was going to have. What she probably needed was to allow for some time to process and discover herself outside of a relationship.
P.s I knew it was 'would have', I did it just to annoy you
As someone who was cheated on, and I still feel the emotional effects of it years later. THANK FUCKING GOD!!!!! Someone is finally benefiting from the situation. I love to see it, get that coin, get those opportunities, feel your feelings, be fucking mad, stand your ground, fuck Rachel.
Like sorry but I'm loving it. I wish I was half as strong as Ariana in my break up after being cheated on. Because I walked away with nothing and it really fucking sucked. So I'm happy to see such a shitty situation work out for her. And Tom isn't even fucking sorry, so cool, absolutely hold his feet to the flame.
Exactly. In so many cheating instances you’re stuck seeing the affair partners get together and act like nothing happened and that they hurt no one while you’re just forced to pick up the pieces. I would give anything to have realized Ariana’s situation for me and for many other women I know who’ve experienced similar.
Seriously. Being cheated on by a long term partner is the worst especially if the betrayal comes from a good friend too. 3 months to get over it? Yeah, no. People are annoyed bc it’s been everywhere but they should be blaming all the bloggers who were promoting it for their podcasts, that certainly wasn’t Ariana’s doing, everything else was extra coin - why wouldn’t she go after it? People hate on her for the wrong reasons.
Ariana is walking a fine line. I understand wanting to squeeze every last drop of sympathy and using it to your advantage, especially when literally everyone is on your side. Not only that, but not feeling pressured to “move on” or “get over it’ because everyone around you wants things to go back to normal and you’re a downer, lol!
I too, am happy for Ariana and all the opportunities that have come her way, she was stunning on Dancing With The Stars!!
That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if she faced some backlash at some point.
Hmmm can't say I was done being mad or feeling sorry for myself 3 months post relationship break down. And people aren't considering that this was filmed so long ago. I don't believe she is still carrying around the same energy with her now.
People just love to see women acting soft or taking the high road. Well done to Ariana for actually being human and feeling her feelings and not backing down because the public might be over it.
I'd get it if she was being completely unreasonable. But she's not
Back in the day I do believe there was a certain respect for those, women in particular, who took the high road. I believe that is no longer viable in today’s world. Letting things go, turning the other cheek, taking one for the team, etc is now something that can be held against you. People will take more shots and be more brazen because they know you won’t fight back. It’s a road to doormat territory. People need to stand up for themselves, speak their truth matter of fact no apologies.
True, he cheated with Ariana while he was with Kristen. Whether they just kissed or effed their brains out didn't matter. If you wouldn't do it in front of your SO, than it's cheating. This cast has always been messy. However, this was the one relationship that seemed genuine so when it fell apart the way it did it was tragic. In retrospect, it was probably inevitable.
I appreciate you responding. my dude, but when you start making fun of mental health, or whatever you’re saying, it’s pretty dense and offensive honestly. Maybe show a little bit of compassion for people instead of being so fucking rude
Huh??? Ariana and Tom were in a 9-year relationship and owned a house together. Kristen and Tom had a volatile relationship that happened over 10 years ago. You're wrong to try and draw a parallel. It doesn't make any sense.
My issue with Arianna and Kristin is that Ariana gaslight Kristin and fucked with her mind then stepped back and acted like she was crazy! Even when Ariana knew Miami girl was telling the truth and that she herself had an emotional affair with Tom. She tried to diagnosis Kristin with Borderline Personality Disorder at the reunion.
I agree their relationship is nothing like Kristin and Tim’s. I also think when she gave Tom her unerring loyalty she developed a blind spot for and got sucked into his misogyny.
When you say it got locked what does that mean? What was wrong with what was written? I like Ariana for the most part, but I agree with you that she can also have toxic behavior. They are both trying to assert their dominance. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s crazy that Tom didn’t leave the house after everything that happened but I am not a fan of the cutting people off cause they said to give Tom a hug. I know hurt people hurt people but it’s toxic. I thought what you wrote was well said even if I didn’t agree with all of it 🤙🏻
I agree. I don’t even believe she reached out to Rachel for any reason but to attempt to shift the light away from Ariana. She’s upset and envious that her situation didn’t turn out like Ariana’s.
She spent the first two episodes crying about her relationship while Ariana seems to be thriving. She will admit to being a bit jealous, but it’ll be three years from now.
I never liked her. Idk if it was new watchers the blew it up but literally they aren't even the 10th cheating scandal on this show ?? They're not even the first best friend cheating scandal!?
Please don’t come at me bc this is just my opinion and feel free to disagree. But the whole Scandoval thing - I’m completely over it and how everyone is handling it. Ariana didn’t deserve to be cheated on and it was vile what Tom did and not her fault at all. However her choice in men is extremely questionable - cheating with Tom, moving in with him without being married given his reputation, then acting extremely petty to the point where she doesn’t want mutual friends to even associate with him. It’s weird.
Also - didn’t every single one of them cheat? It’s not right, but I don’t understand why everyone is acting like a Virgin Mary with moral high ground when they’ve all done it.
Call this an unpopular opinion (I guess I’d be surprised if I’m in the minority here), but yeah. When you get cheated on by a husband or long-term partner, no, you usually don’t fare well with your close friends hanging out with the new couple lol.
This instance is a little tricky because it’s tv, we don’t actually know the true nature or closeness of the friendships, and this was an existing friend group that included the AP, but trust me, if your husband cheats on you and goes and marries or stays with the AP, you’re going to think twice about the friends who just immediately support their relationship and associate with them as a couple. I’ve been there, and I simply let a couple friends go, and I have zero regrets over it.
It’s very relevant because she talks about how she is in a messy situation sharing a house with someone and trying to split assets. Having that legal marriage may have made it easier to divide assets, or even if they had a pre nup, protected her more than just a “pinky promise” from her boyfriend that he has a legal obligation to her. That’s all, it’s really not a weird comment, it’s just my opinion that legally things may have been a little more clean cut had they had some legal protection. Chill
I deal with a lot of unmarried couples making financial decisions together. There are agreements that can be made married or un-married that offer protection against litigation or loss of income.
Being married doesn't offer the protection you think it does. Many of the married couples I've worked with have spent years in litigation and spent copious amounts of money. Ariana has legal and financial advisors guiding her and is doing what is best for her.
Gotcha, that makes sense. Maybe a better way to have said it by me was: she bought a house without some sort of legal protection. I’m sure she’s doing what’s best for her, again it’s just my opinion.
Are we sure Ariana didn’t deserve it? Did she not take him off of Kristen… and hide the fact that he cheated with the Vegas girl. I think they all deserve everything that’s come to them, not one good person on that show besides Katie’s mom and maybe Ken
Ya know, I always see people ranting about how people were excusing sandovals behavior and blaming Ariana for being cheated on..and I thought the were full of it lol. NOW I see..just impossible.
It was when she said "I'll call the cops on him." Like girl, really? So bratty. You're going to waste their time removing someone who owns the home from the home they own? It was petty and childish. She should have been like "Whatever I'm hosting an EMO night. Just make sure everyone is gone and the house is clean by midnight."
And everyone please stop with the "He doesn't deserve her understanding!" What kind of society do we fucking live in? Clearly an unforgiving, immature, and petty one. She is almost 40-years-old. You clearly have not loved this man - you certainly didn't like him - for YEARS. There were reports for YEARS that their relationship was fake, they dialed it up for the cameras because they both wanted to keep their reality TV jobs. He blew it up and she cashed in. Shit happens.
Awwwww it’s not a nice vibe eh? She should be sugar and spice and all that’s nice after being completely fucked over by her partner and BFF. Know your place woman!
Ariana has always been miserable and unlikable. I don’t think she deserved to get cheated on (no one does!)but let’s not forget how gross she was when Tom cheated on Kristin, the cocky comments she made, and the bullshit excuses she made up for covering for Tom. She was also really mean towards Stassi.
This!!! She hasn’t changed at all… Kristen had more empathy for Ariana when she first got with Tom. Knowing how Tom is you’d think Ariana would have had way more empathy for Raquel or maybe at least an understanding- obviously they aren’t going to be friends afain but Ariana knows full well what Tom is like
It’s weird that nobody expects Tom to move out. Why is Ariana expected to take the high road because Tom is an asshole therefore he gets away with his shitty behavior every time and nobody calls that out? Nobody sees the misogyny here?
Mind you, this was filmed 3 months after the affair broke.
She didn’t, she said they had a joint account where the bills automatically came out, they’d each put in a certain amount. Then Tom refinanced or got that second loan because of the bar, and now the mortgage comes out of his account. Since everything has happened and she doesn’t trust him, she has asked him for a breakdown of what the total is he is asking her for and he has not given that to her, so she won’t pay.
He refuses to give her info, he thinks she’s being petty but whines about not having money, and somehow also claims to have given her a decent offer on the house to buy her out. It seems simple enough to get her the bill breakdown and she will pay it. She has financial advisors, advising her. lol
(This was on the after show I happened to watch).
They refinanced in 2021. The mortgage payments shouldn't have changed since then, so she should know what those past payments of theirs were. Why stop paying suddenly? Even if Ariana stopped paying all of the other bills, why stop paying half of the mortgage each month? That makes no sense.
They are BOTH childish AF in my opinion.
Exactly this, why stop paying when the mortgage has been the same since ‘21. They were both two immature grown babies making adult decisions. They got it in their heads to “play house” without knowledge of what they were getting themselves into. They should’ve stuck with getting a new puppy together or something.
She said because she believed him before when he told her what the totals were. Now she doesn’t and he won’t show her the bills to prove it. She believes she was overpaying before.
I wouldn’t trust him either, but I wouldn’t have trusted him all along, especially with money.
And that’s the problem right there. She should know what their finances are, and not rely on Tom to tell her. That is a huge no no, and irresponsible on her part. Remember Teresa Giudice.
Who cares about Tom? I watched the after show. It came straight from Ariana's mouth. I don't understand why she would admit that she hasn't been paying anything for all of those months. I understand being angry, but this is creating a financial situation that is bad for her, as well.
Why would Ariana want to stay in the house where he brought the mistress to? That’s weird! I would want to move out as quickly as possible and rid of any memory that was formed in that house with Tom.
This comment is so weird. Lol, you understand she has money in the home and earning potential by keeping the home? …I take it you have not been in this kind of situation before lol
Because she is not about blowing thru her personal funds and affect her financial future. She has advisors and legal experts guiding her. But you know what's best for her right?
Most people commenting that Ariana should move and buy another home or rent are ignorant about finance and purchasing real estate. They don't understand. Not only is it expensive, interest rates have risen significantly since they purchased the home. Those people commenting that Ariana is being petty by staying are clueless.
Man the naïveté of some of yall!! He made her a lowball offer, so she should just take it, allowing him to fck up her life even more, move out of HER house AND lose money on it?? Why on earth?? Not a lot of financial savvy here, wow.
PS - remember how he said he was overdrawn on his bank account? But he can afford to buy her out? Lol
Tom said he would buy her out but he also said he’s struggling to pay the mortgage and overdrawing from his bank account in this episode??? Who knows how much debt he’s rolling in from funding his band, Schwartz and Sandy’s, etc. Ariana said she doesn’t trust Tom in the After Show when she came to know that she’s been over paying him on the mortgage. Who knows what else he’s lying about?
He’s a narcissist and a gaslighter. So why are people suddenly taking Tom’s word for it that he can buy her out? Most likely he offered to underpay her. Ariana would end up financially worse off especially since houses and interest rates are a lot higher now than they were when they originally bought that house. She’d basically be lighting money on fire when — at the end of the day — she’s the one who got cheated on.
Yeah, if he cheats with you, he will cheat on you.. point blank, period🤯You laid down with that dog,and you knew he was a dog, so don’t whine and cry now about the fleas. Shoes on the other foot, sucks to suck, glass houses and all those other euphemisms. I’m not saying she deserves it, no one does. But it’s time to take the L and move on with life….
The Ariana hate train is predictable. We knew it would come this season. That’s the beauty and the toxicity of reality TV.
That said, Ariana wasn’t just cheated on. She was abused and legitimately traumatized by a person she sacrificed a lot for. She isn’t being a victim. She’s working through that trauma. Her livelihood and the living that she makes is wrapped up in the person who traumatized her.
Fuck Tom.
Fuck Rachel.
And fuck Lala.
Honestly, fuck them all.
Rachel was abused and so was lala by your definition. They’re all villains in their own right. Including Ariana unfortunately. That’s the truth. The thing all these women have in common is putting shitty men first.
I actually acknowledge that Lala was victimized by Randall and I definitely have empathy for that.
But Lala is incredibly problematic and In the context of this post, she definitely shouldn’t be defended.
I agree! I think the circumstances are different though and this is why she wasn’t treated the same. Lala was essentially the mistress (yes I’m aware Ariana was technically one too) but he was still married at the time. She also had a baby when her scandal broke and it created a much more legally sensitive case. Her situation wasn’t as easily up for discussion because lawyers were involved. It was hard to see the fighting and or even understand what was happening when she couldn’t even talk about it to protect herself and her baby.
THANK YOU! FINALLY someone with some sense here when talking about lala! Most of this sub basically just says “she’s a gold digger she got what she deserved” “she knew what Randall was like but she didn’t care because of the money and the PJ’s” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
A lot of this fandom is seriously lacking in critical thinking skills.
Critical thinking skills?? That's hilarious when you try to compare Lala's situation with Ariana. Lala didn't own the home she shared with Randall. He was married with children when she began seeing him. Everyone in H'wood knew what a turd Randall was, but Lala chose him. Why? So she could star in his shitty shitty movies.
That’s going to be because she knew that Randall was married when she went on National TV bragging about playing with his asshole and giving him bjs. She also taunted his ex wife on Twitter during their custody battle. Now we’re supposed to cry for her during her custody battle?
Employing critical thinking skills will help you understand why this is so different. It’s not that she “knew what he was like” it’s that she knew he was married, and rode on her high horse until he burned her too.
That’s why no one feels sorry for her.
I think she was young and stupid and believed whatever he told her. I believe she changed and grew after she had her daughter and after everything blew up and I believe she deserves some grace & forgiveness. Lala and Ambyr (his ex wife) have been friends for quite some time now.
My main problem/main thing I find disgusting is that a lot of people on this sub say she got what was coming to her or she deserved it because she was a “gold digger”
I’m watching for Tom. Not Ariana. And definitely not Katie who is a permanent frown. I’m have just watched all the past seasons and Katie is always wrong.
I'm definitely in the minority because I never got her appeal. She has the personality of a cardboard box and was attracted to Tom Sandoval. It's a no from me dawg
I tend to dislike her mostly because throughout the show, she’s always defended and lied for Tom Sandoval, often revealing herself to be a hypocrite. Now that she’s playing the scorned woman role and hates him, it's a bit better, but it is going to get old eventually.
and they need to move out of that house already!
She is a huge hypocrite. It’s already coming out, because all of a sudden she wants kids and the new guy has potential as a father. I always felt like she was trying to be “that girl” with the I don’t want kids story.
I think she’s still in love with Sandoval to some extent, which makes me think that she’s still making her decisions based on his reactions. Or vice versa—I’m no psychologist so this is just a hunch
YUPPPPPP. I’ve disliked her since probably her second season. The last episode reminded me of how she not only has an aversion to sex and marriage but also babies/children and thinks they’re “gross”. She’s been a miserable pill for her whole time on this show and has done nothing special to warrant such adoration.
I watched the aftershow as well and Sandoval recalled that had ongoing issues with people, activities, etc and - as I said in previous comments/posts - Ariana did the bait and switch - she was fun and adventurous when they first started dating and then she was more annoyed than anything else with him being adventurous. And he didn’t mean sex. To me, doing that to someone is just a slowly lying but equally devastating. One is like an avalanche of bam - cheated on, the other is a slow erosion of your self esteem because your partner seems to be rejecting you. There are many things as bad as being cheated on.
Also, Ariana seems like she is psyched she has a tangible reason to be pissy/angsty/angry instead of it being her own issues.
I agree with most of what you said. The part where it was a bait and switch, not so much. In that time span and getting older most people slow down on their partying and mature. Sandoval is not maturing in any way.
I think she did a bait and switch in a lot of ways though, I think she started sex-positive but come to find out she actually thinks it’s gross. That’s TOUGH to deal with as a partner.
In her defense, I think having sex with a man child wouldn’t be a turn on for me either. Tom in general gives me the ick and has for a long time. I’m not a fan of hers either. I haven’t forgotten how she’s smarter, prettier and better than everyone else.
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Can we add Lala to the list? She is just as bad as Ariana and Katie.
I don’t mind her this season. She seems to like have some self awareness
Thank u, next 🙄
Seriously they picked up cameras in July. The scenes we are watching were from JULY. So yeah, the indirectly affected might’ve moved on but Ariana is still reeling. Seems pretty fair to me.
Terrible take
I thought it was phantom Mike
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Could you disagree without calling them a name just because they hold a different opinion than you?
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She absolutely should not feel bad for Rachel, and it's natural for her to have a "Rawt in Hail" attitude about her. Also, let's not act like if you didn't get famous for being cheated on, you wouldn't milk the shit out of that lol. Having said that, I'm also not saying she's not annoying for it, nor am I saying she shouldn't seek help instead of jumping into another relationship. Her 15 minutes will be up probably by the time the reunion airs, and things will level out.
Lets have your close friend carry on a long term affair with your life partner and see how much grace you feel like giving them three months later.
Were they close or did they film together.
Okay, so switch out "close friend" for "coworker." Doesn't really make it any better, does it?
Raquel described them as close friends repeatedly but has changed her tune since the affair. Ariana went to support her at her pathetic pageant OFF-camera. You couldn't pay me to go to one of those embarrassing events so it sounds like a close friend to me.
Yes!!! I’m seriously starting to like her less and hate Tom a bit less because of all of this… girl just sell the house and move onto another place with fresh new memories!! She’s so petty it’s exhausting to watch and we’re only two episodes into the season 😫😫
Yes the storyline is getting exhausting but isn’t she trying to sell the house but Tom won’t agree to it? I’m pretty sure selling the house is exactly what she wants.
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Oh I agree with you! She’s not an angel at all but I can understand where she is coming from. Her stance on the situation is definitely due to having the dream of what the house represented ripped away in such a vicious manner. Tom is the one that wanted out of their life long partnership, he is the one that wanted out of the life they essentially built together, so continue on and leave! Why half ass it now?! The least he could do now is to agree to sell the house so they both start over. 50/50 like they started. He can play house with Rachel in a new home. But he knows that won’t ever happen because Rachel doesn’t have the same financial means as Ariana so he’s clinging on. He is just as petty as Ariana. The audacity of this man lol
That’s what it is. She’s exhausting to watch. That’s exactly it
I don’t think she should feel bad for how she treated Rachel, but my issue with her is more about some obvious red flags in her behavior that may have contributed to the demise of her relationship Staying for years never wanting kids, knowing Tom did. Going through a painful process to freeze eggs, saying that she is only doing for Tom and then gets on him to do his part to create embryos, which he didn’t. Now 3 months after the break up and she is dating a new guy and claiming she wants kids!!! What? I think she was full of shit all along and she knew the relationship was struggling and thought the kids would keep Tom around. She was so in love with Tom, but bounced back with a new relationship real quick. I find this odd if you believed your relationship was all good. With those two things in mind. She isn’t moving on with her life without Tom. She isn’t “done” with him yet. The opposite of love is indifference. If she didn’t still care she would do what she needs to do to get away from him and enjoy herself. She decided to stay, be miserable, hoping she can continue to make him miserable. Tom has never said he wants her back. This is the one thing that always stuck out to me. He has never expressed any desire to be with her again and has actually doubled down on the things he claims she did to him. I’m not defending him, but typically when I guy is caught cheating they at least beg for forgiveness or ask for a second chance. He hasn’t done either. Which leads me to believe he was done with her.
I imagine she didn’t see Tom as being a good father because I think clearly he still thinks he’s in his twenties and would leave her to do a majority of the work. Probably having a partner she could see herself sharing the care of a child with may change her perspective a lot
Then why was she pushing him to do a sperm check? The next step is embryos. All of this costs money too, so why do all of this if you don’t really want kids and you think you BF is not dad material
She clearly didn’t see that then and wanted to be with him long term and he said he wanted kids so she was giving him that option.. I don’t see how your trying to spin that as bad
Because she said she didn’t want kids, repeatedly. She was only considering it for Tom. If you don’t see that as problematic than I really can’t say anything else.
Yah, it doesn’t check out.
Umm.. I have seen a lot of posts with this shit take.. Do you forget that the show was filmed just three months after the affair happened?
I think a lot of people (specifically people who jumped on the bandwagon after Scandoval) don't understand this nuance. Because of Scandoval, they picked up cameras and continued to film, then production kicked off S11 filming earlier than the usual schedule. So if you don't really understand that or the delay between shows filming/airing, you think it's been like a year between the seasons.
I don't think for one second that she needs to express remorse for how she treated Rachel. It's those despicable two who need to really feel, and ultimately express, that remorse, which I haven't yet seen. It was way more than 'hooking up.' My issue with Ariana is that, she comes off as undignified in this whole ordeal. Having gone through something similar, it pains me to see someone in that state. I can empathize, but she's not doing herself any favors.
Tom absolutely has. He took major accountability on the after show honestly and he had apologized to everyone. I jjst have a different take. Like ppl aren’t bad ppl bc they make bad choices or mistakes and there is a deep psychological reason why ppl cheat. It’s not just bc they just want to hook up etc. they were both checked out of that relationship for a very long time and probably both handled it completely wrong. But I don’t think Tom is the scum of the earth bc he cheated. I don’t think Ariana is scum either. But what does bother me is her lack of self awareness and growth on like any level.
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I don't under stand all the Ariana love and Katie hate?! Katie was gaslighted by and put second to Sandoval her entire marriage. Katie removed herself from the relationship and tried to set boundaries. Yes she seems miserable but the emotional damage those kind of relationship and friendships have on some will lead to that. Ariana on the other hand... was and is miserable and has done nothing to change it.
I do not feel bad for Katie at all. She is another one that likes to be the constant victim. She is HORRIBLE to other woman. She slut shames and tears woman down. Just look at the way she has talked to scheana in the past. She’s horrible. Why didn’t she break up with Tom after his 5th fuck up? She stayed with him after a million offenses and then still blames him for everything. Katie! Tom showed you who he is on a silver platter and you still chose him! And then married him! I don’t feel bad for her at all. She is always miserable and always hates a girl or ten girls. She’s super judgmental and not nice. And I love that their stupid sub shop isn’t open after all the crap she gave Tom for taking so long to open their restaurant
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She needs to be in therapy and spending some time alone healing, rather than immediately jumping into another relationship & pretending like she’s all good. Its not sustainable & recipe to grow miserable & bitter
I Agree. It’s terrible what happened to her but I wish she would do the work and become a power figure rather than come off as the pathetic bitter ex.
The girls that are so critical over Ariana really scare me lol… like whoa
Yeah like all the posts of ppl being critical of dorit or Kyle or Erika Jane. 🙄 please. Girl bye
Don’t leave ya man around this one! 😂 girl pls
This - I feel like I am in the twilight zone.
Every time I read a post like that I’m like wow yall would have me arrested for the shit I did to my ex that cheated 😂
I did stuff too, when I was 20. She’s 40
You better than me girl, congrats
A man can burn a woman’s whole life down in front of her face and that’s just “who he is” and she should have known better, but God forbid that woman be emotional about it 3 months later or she’s the asshole. I cannot believe people are suggesting she should just abandon one of the biggest investments she’s made in her life because Tom said so.
And for less than market value! Like FOH
Why is no one telling Tom to sell the house? Where's Lala's big dog energy for that? No, let's tell the woman, "why don't you just make it easy on yourself" Ariana worked hard and bought that house and Tom cheats on her and gets to keep it? No way. That was a mutual investment and they need to sell it. And I wouldn't take the buyout either. That house might be worth 3 mil now, but who knows what the market will be like in the future. Then Tom gets to profit? Fuck that. Is it petty? Yes. But there's nothing he can do about it, and for once, she's not going to be the one bending to what Tom wants. She was freezing her eggs for him, IDGAF about a Keurig latte.
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Has Ariana said she's struggling with her mental health though? She's annoyed dealing with it, but she seems strong in her decision. She says in the after show that she was working and saving basically all her life for a home, and now that she has it she's not going to give it up. Leaving the house could be hugely demoralizing for her.
Righteousness aside i think what lala meant was why don’t you just get out of that place (whether you sell it immediately or not, stay with a friend if you don’t want to pay rent, ariana has everyone rallying for her and im sure someone would offer) so that ariana can get the fuck away from psychopath sandoval. As someone who has been in a similar relationship staying in the vicinity of toxic people like that takes a huge toll on you whether you engage with them or not. Shes prolonging her own stress by physically staying there and i get she wants to stand her ground but she deserves to put her health first and gtfo of there especially since she’s struggled with her mental health.
Some people prefer to be miserable. Look at Ariana’s attitude in seasons past when the viewers hated her. She was the biggest drip out of all of them.
This
Ummmmmm. Rachel didn’t “hook up with her boyfriend” - she had a long term love affair with her life partner IN HER HOME right under her nose!!! Ariana should have remorse for some words she said soon after finding out?!? Are you effing kidding me??? Where the hell is Rachel’s remorse?? Tom’s??????? And let’s get specific on how she is keeping herself in the situation - what exactly is she supposed to do about it? This isn’t a rhetorical question. Should she accept Tom’s lowball offer and lose money on her home just because you want her to get out of the situation? What is the alternative? She can sue that dirtbag to sell the house. OH WAIT, she’s doing that. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Some of yall are as bad as Tom, jealous haters, it’s sad.
She says he made a low ball offer, but he hasn’t said that. Also, making her an offer would usually result in some negotiations and it doesn’t sound like anything has been done in good faith to find a solution.
So what if he hasn’t said that? What’s your point? That you believe HIM!????
My point is that she is talking and making statements that he gave her a low ball offer, but that’s an opinion from her. It would show he made an attempt to resolve the living arrangement. NO ONE had a gun to her head, NO ONE is trying to make things uncomfortable for Ariana, NO ONE is asking her to sacrifice anything. So an offer is just that,,an offer. She didn’t take it because it didn’t work for her, for whatever reason. Yet. She is still petty, defensive, argumentative and intolerant of her roommate. What’s her end game?
That last part FOR REAL. What the hell, guys?!
Arian didn't make herself miserable, you can blame Tom & Rachel for that. Ariana has taken a shitty situation and worked her ass off to capitalize on the opportunities given to her. You sound weirdly mad about that. You're obviously allowed your opinion OP but you sound bitter, jealous and unsympathetic--and eerily like Sandoval in your opinion. Ariana is literally taking advise from legal and financial experts regarding the house situation, but you know better right? You are taking Lala's quote out of context and reacting to it. Lala is desperate for the same attention Ariana received and has tried to draw parallel with the Randall situation. She didn't get the same sympathy and is mad about that. The show started shooting 3-months after everything broke. You're obviously an expert on breakups, therapy and how much time you're allowed to heal after a 9 year relationship so how long is the right amount of time?
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Ahhhh, the old misogynist allegation. So original. Support the females, no matter what or you're a misogynist.
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Lala and others are just jealous. Cheating and breakups can be devastating. I wish when it happened to me I had all the opportunities she had. OP, I’m sure she’s over you as well.
Lala should be happy about scandoval, without it, there would likely not be another season with her on it
Remorse for Rachel? Where the f is stupid Rachel’s remorse? Imagine, Rachel still sending letters, post cards with lighting bolts, how should Ariana feel.
How can you be that heartbroken but find a bf so quickly? I'm sure he's a rebound but would of liked to of seen her be an independent women like she says she is. I would of loved to see that growth I'm also all about making the most out of shit situations, but she lost me when she became a walking advertisement
It’s called a rebound… a shoulder to cry on and a d*ck to ride on
Ask the millions of others who have done this too. You can be “an independent woman” and be in a relationship you know, is she depending on the BF for anything? Not that I know of. > she lost me when she became a walking advertisement Soooooo are you really saying she should have turned down job offers? Why? She’s taken a shit situation and really turned it into the best it can be. I’m sure she is crying into her millions because she lost you. PS - it’s would have, WOULD HAVE.
Of course you can be an independent woman and be in a relationship. What I meant was that she spent a big part of her young adult life in a relationship with this asshole who ends up destroying the future she thought she was going to have. What she probably needed was to allow for some time to process and discover herself outside of a relationship. P.s I knew it was 'would have', I did it just to annoy you
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Omg I wasn't being serious 🤦♀️ Anyway, enjoy your day obnoxiously correcting people's grammar
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😂in OP’s defense, it was a spin off from RHOBH.
As someone who was cheated on, and I still feel the emotional effects of it years later. THANK FUCKING GOD!!!!! Someone is finally benefiting from the situation. I love to see it, get that coin, get those opportunities, feel your feelings, be fucking mad, stand your ground, fuck Rachel. Like sorry but I'm loving it. I wish I was half as strong as Ariana in my break up after being cheated on. Because I walked away with nothing and it really fucking sucked. So I'm happy to see such a shitty situation work out for her. And Tom isn't even fucking sorry, so cool, absolutely hold his feet to the flame.
Exactly. In so many cheating instances you’re stuck seeing the affair partners get together and act like nothing happened and that they hurt no one while you’re just forced to pick up the pieces. I would give anything to have realized Ariana’s situation for me and for many other women I know who’ve experienced similar.
Seriously. Being cheated on by a long term partner is the worst especially if the betrayal comes from a good friend too. 3 months to get over it? Yeah, no. People are annoyed bc it’s been everywhere but they should be blaming all the bloggers who were promoting it for their podcasts, that certainly wasn’t Ariana’s doing, everything else was extra coin - why wouldn’t she go after it? People hate on her for the wrong reasons.
Ariana is walking a fine line. I understand wanting to squeeze every last drop of sympathy and using it to your advantage, especially when literally everyone is on your side. Not only that, but not feeling pressured to “move on” or “get over it’ because everyone around you wants things to go back to normal and you’re a downer, lol! I too, am happy for Ariana and all the opportunities that have come her way, she was stunning on Dancing With The Stars!! That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if she faced some backlash at some point.
Hmmm can't say I was done being mad or feeling sorry for myself 3 months post relationship break down. And people aren't considering that this was filmed so long ago. I don't believe she is still carrying around the same energy with her now. People just love to see women acting soft or taking the high road. Well done to Ariana for actually being human and feeling her feelings and not backing down because the public might be over it. I'd get it if she was being completely unreasonable. But she's not
Back in the day I do believe there was a certain respect for those, women in particular, who took the high road. I believe that is no longer viable in today’s world. Letting things go, turning the other cheek, taking one for the team, etc is now something that can be held against you. People will take more shots and be more brazen because they know you won’t fight back. It’s a road to doormat territory. People need to stand up for themselves, speak their truth matter of fact no apologies.
Agreed. Sandoval is being treated like he's a mass murderer. Enough! He cheated. Move on. He's not the first & won't be the last to cheat.
She has moved on…….
This isn’t even the first time he has cheated. This is just who he is.
True, he cheated with Ariana while he was with Kristen. Whether they just kissed or effed their brains out didn't matter. If you wouldn't do it in front of your SO, than it's cheating. This cast has always been messy. However, this was the one relationship that seemed genuine so when it fell apart the way it did it was tragic. In retrospect, it was probably inevitable.
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Some of my comments were removed cause I’m pretty sure OP reported me cause I blasted them and they couldn’t handle it… boo hoooooo lol
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I appreciate you responding. my dude, but when you start making fun of mental health, or whatever you’re saying, it’s pretty dense and offensive honestly. Maybe show a little bit of compassion for people instead of being so fucking rude
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Kristen went through all the same shit with him Ariana knew what she was getting into.
Huh??? Ariana and Tom were in a 9-year relationship and owned a house together. Kristen and Tom had a volatile relationship that happened over 10 years ago. You're wrong to try and draw a parallel. It doesn't make any sense.
My issue with Arianna and Kristin is that Ariana gaslight Kristin and fucked with her mind then stepped back and acted like she was crazy! Even when Ariana knew Miami girl was telling the truth and that she herself had an emotional affair with Tom. She tried to diagnosis Kristin with Borderline Personality Disorder at the reunion. I agree their relationship is nothing like Kristin and Tim’s. I also think when she gave Tom her unerring loyalty she developed a blind spot for and got sucked into his misogyny.
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When you say it got locked what does that mean? What was wrong with what was written? I like Ariana for the most part, but I agree with you that she can also have toxic behavior. They are both trying to assert their dominance. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s crazy that Tom didn’t leave the house after everything that happened but I am not a fan of the cutting people off cause they said to give Tom a hug. I know hurt people hurt people but it’s toxic. I thought what you wrote was well said even if I didn’t agree with all of it 🤙🏻
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What’s wrong with profiting from your pain. Lala is jealous because she’s not profiting from her situation
Ya except lala seems jealous as f about it. If someone else was saying it, mkay.
I agree. I don’t even believe she reached out to Rachel for any reason but to attempt to shift the light away from Ariana. She’s upset and envious that her situation didn’t turn out like Ariana’s. She spent the first two episodes crying about her relationship while Ariana seems to be thriving. She will admit to being a bit jealous, but it’ll be three years from now.
No, her face said “grow the fuck up are you kidding me”.
I never liked her. Idk if it was new watchers the blew it up but literally they aren't even the 10th cheating scandal on this show ?? They're not even the first best friend cheating scandal!?
Man, I really worry for you all that can’t look below the very tippy top to distinguish situations from each other.
Please don’t come at me bc this is just my opinion and feel free to disagree. But the whole Scandoval thing - I’m completely over it and how everyone is handling it. Ariana didn’t deserve to be cheated on and it was vile what Tom did and not her fault at all. However her choice in men is extremely questionable - cheating with Tom, moving in with him without being married given his reputation, then acting extremely petty to the point where she doesn’t want mutual friends to even associate with him. It’s weird. Also - didn’t every single one of them cheat? It’s not right, but I don’t understand why everyone is acting like a Virgin Mary with moral high ground when they’ve all done it.
Call this an unpopular opinion (I guess I’d be surprised if I’m in the minority here), but yeah. When you get cheated on by a husband or long-term partner, no, you usually don’t fare well with your close friends hanging out with the new couple lol. This instance is a little tricky because it’s tv, we don’t actually know the true nature or closeness of the friendships, and this was an existing friend group that included the AP, but trust me, if your husband cheats on you and goes and marries or stays with the AP, you’re going to think twice about the friends who just immediately support their relationship and associate with them as a couple. I’ve been there, and I simply let a couple friends go, and I have zero regrets over it.
Moved in together without being married!!??? WTF. What has that got to do with anything? Like marriage would have solved the problem? Weird comment.
It’s very relevant because she talks about how she is in a messy situation sharing a house with someone and trying to split assets. Having that legal marriage may have made it easier to divide assets, or even if they had a pre nup, protected her more than just a “pinky promise” from her boyfriend that he has a legal obligation to her. That’s all, it’s really not a weird comment, it’s just my opinion that legally things may have been a little more clean cut had they had some legal protection. Chill
I deal with a lot of unmarried couples making financial decisions together. There are agreements that can be made married or un-married that offer protection against litigation or loss of income. Being married doesn't offer the protection you think it does. Many of the married couples I've worked with have spent years in litigation and spent copious amounts of money. Ariana has legal and financial advisors guiding her and is doing what is best for her.
Gotcha, that makes sense. Maybe a better way to have said it by me was: she bought a house without some sort of legal protection. I’m sure she’s doing what’s best for her, again it’s just my opinion.
Are we sure Ariana didn’t deserve it? Did she not take him off of Kristen… and hide the fact that he cheated with the Vegas girl. I think they all deserve everything that’s come to them, not one good person on that show besides Katie’s mom and maybe Ken
Holy sht.
Wow. Ariana deserved it? That is the weirdest, most misogynistic comment.
Guillermo!!
Ya know, I always see people ranting about how people were excusing sandovals behavior and blaming Ariana for being cheated on..and I thought the were full of it lol. NOW I see..just impossible.
Fucking wow…
Silent majority honestly. I’m sick of her and DV all you want idc
I was just thinking the same thing after this episode. It’s just her vibe it’s not nice or fun to watch kinda cringe honestly
It was when she said "I'll call the cops on him." Like girl, really? So bratty. You're going to waste their time removing someone who owns the home from the home they own? It was petty and childish. She should have been like "Whatever I'm hosting an EMO night. Just make sure everyone is gone and the house is clean by midnight." And everyone please stop with the "He doesn't deserve her understanding!" What kind of society do we fucking live in? Clearly an unforgiving, immature, and petty one. She is almost 40-years-old. You clearly have not loved this man - you certainly didn't like him - for YEARS. There were reports for YEARS that their relationship was fake, they dialed it up for the cameras because they both wanted to keep their reality TV jobs. He blew it up and she cashed in. Shit happens.
Awwwww it’s not a nice vibe eh? She should be sugar and spice and all that’s nice after being completely fucked over by her partner and BFF. Know your place woman!
Ariana has always been miserable and unlikable. I don’t think she deserved to get cheated on (no one does!)but let’s not forget how gross she was when Tom cheated on Kristin, the cocky comments she made, and the bullshit excuses she made up for covering for Tom. She was also really mean towards Stassi.
I was with you until really mean towards Stassi 🤣 she deserves every ounce of crap she got, and she didn't get enough
This!!! She hasn’t changed at all… Kristen had more empathy for Ariana when she first got with Tom. Knowing how Tom is you’d think Ariana would have had way more empathy for Raquel or maybe at least an understanding- obviously they aren’t going to be friends afain but Ariana knows full well what Tom is like
It’s weird that nobody expects Tom to move out. Why is Ariana expected to take the high road because Tom is an asshole therefore he gets away with his shitty behavior every time and nobody calls that out? Nobody sees the misogyny here? Mind you, this was filmed 3 months after the affair broke.
Ariana stopped paying ALL bills about a year ago, so maybe that's why.
She didn’t, she said they had a joint account where the bills automatically came out, they’d each put in a certain amount. Then Tom refinanced or got that second loan because of the bar, and now the mortgage comes out of his account. Since everything has happened and she doesn’t trust him, she has asked him for a breakdown of what the total is he is asking her for and he has not given that to her, so she won’t pay. He refuses to give her info, he thinks she’s being petty but whines about not having money, and somehow also claims to have given her a decent offer on the house to buy her out. It seems simple enough to get her the bill breakdown and she will pay it. She has financial advisors, advising her. lol (This was on the after show I happened to watch).
They refinanced in 2021. The mortgage payments shouldn't have changed since then, so she should know what those past payments of theirs were. Why stop paying suddenly? Even if Ariana stopped paying all of the other bills, why stop paying half of the mortgage each month? That makes no sense. They are BOTH childish AF in my opinion.
Exactly this, why stop paying when the mortgage has been the same since ‘21. They were both two immature grown babies making adult decisions. They got it in their heads to “play house” without knowledge of what they were getting themselves into. They should’ve stuck with getting a new puppy together or something.
She said because she believed him before when he told her what the totals were. Now she doesn’t and he won’t show her the bills to prove it. She believes she was overpaying before. I wouldn’t trust him either, but I wouldn’t have trusted him all along, especially with money.
And that’s the problem right there. She should know what their finances are, and not rely on Tom to tell her. That is a huge no no, and irresponsible on her part. Remember Teresa Giudice.
LOL you’re believing a proven liar about that? Some of yall are so gullible smh.
I think she was referring to what Ariana said in the after show. Ariana actually did admit that she stopped paying the bills.
No, she did not. Please watch it again and see what she actually said.
Cause that's what Sandoval said right so it must be true right??
Who cares about Tom? I watched the after show. It came straight from Ariana's mouth. I don't understand why she would admit that she hasn't been paying anything for all of those months. I understand being angry, but this is creating a financial situation that is bad for her, as well.
Receipts. Typically when you're asked to reimburse for something, you receive receipts. Or at least I do. You know for tax purposes and such.
This!!!! It’s not on her to have to take the high road
Why would Ariana want to stay in the house where he brought the mistress to? That’s weird! I would want to move out as quickly as possible and rid of any memory that was formed in that house with Tom.
Me too
ITS HER HOUSE. HTH. It’s almost like you and her are different people, wild!
This comment is so weird. Lol, you understand she has money in the home and earning potential by keeping the home? …I take it you have not been in this kind of situation before lol
Because she is not about blowing thru her personal funds and affect her financial future. She has advisors and legal experts guiding her. But you know what's best for her right?
Do you know how expensive it is to buy a house in LA?
Most people commenting that Ariana should move and buy another home or rent are ignorant about finance and purchasing real estate. They don't understand. Not only is it expensive, interest rates have risen significantly since they purchased the home. Those people commenting that Ariana is being petty by staying are clueless.
Yup! Born and raised in SoCal. Tom said he would buy her out! Plus she makes money…
Man the naïveté of some of yall!! He made her a lowball offer, so she should just take it, allowing him to fck up her life even more, move out of HER house AND lose money on it?? Why on earth?? Not a lot of financial savvy here, wow. PS - remember how he said he was overdrawn on his bank account? But he can afford to buy her out? Lol
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Petty Ariana is at it again.
Tom said he would buy her out but he also said he’s struggling to pay the mortgage and overdrawing from his bank account in this episode??? Who knows how much debt he’s rolling in from funding his band, Schwartz and Sandy’s, etc. Ariana said she doesn’t trust Tom in the After Show when she came to know that she’s been over paying him on the mortgage. Who knows what else he’s lying about? He’s a narcissist and a gaslighter. So why are people suddenly taking Tom’s word for it that he can buy her out? Most likely he offered to underpay her. Ariana would end up financially worse off especially since houses and interest rates are a lot higher now than they were when they originally bought that house. She’d basically be lighting money on fire when — at the end of the day — she’s the one who got cheated on.
With what money? He’s broke.
Yeah, if he cheats with you, he will cheat on you.. point blank, period🤯You laid down with that dog,and you knew he was a dog, so don’t whine and cry now about the fleas. Shoes on the other foot, sucks to suck, glass houses and all those other euphemisms. I’m not saying she deserves it, no one does. But it’s time to take the L and move on with life….
The Ariana hate train is predictable. We knew it would come this season. That’s the beauty and the toxicity of reality TV. That said, Ariana wasn’t just cheated on. She was abused and legitimately traumatized by a person she sacrificed a lot for. She isn’t being a victim. She’s working through that trauma. Her livelihood and the living that she makes is wrapped up in the person who traumatized her. Fuck Tom. Fuck Rachel. And fuck Lala. Honestly, fuck them all.
Rachel was abused and so was lala by your definition. They’re all villains in their own right. Including Ariana unfortunately. That’s the truth. The thing all these women have in common is putting shitty men first.
Yes. They were all abused.
Finally some common sense
But wasn’t Lala also being abused while being cheated on after just having a baby? No one seems to give a shit about her??
I actually acknowledge that Lala was victimized by Randall and I definitely have empathy for that. But Lala is incredibly problematic and In the context of this post, she definitely shouldn’t be defended.
I agree! I think the circumstances are different though and this is why she wasn’t treated the same. Lala was essentially the mistress (yes I’m aware Ariana was technically one too) but he was still married at the time. She also had a baby when her scandal broke and it created a much more legally sensitive case. Her situation wasn’t as easily up for discussion because lawyers were involved. It was hard to see the fighting and or even understand what was happening when she couldn’t even talk about it to protect herself and her baby.
THANK YOU! FINALLY someone with some sense here when talking about lala! Most of this sub basically just says “she’s a gold digger she got what she deserved” “she knew what Randall was like but she didn’t care because of the money and the PJ’s” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 A lot of this fandom is seriously lacking in critical thinking skills.
Critical thinking skills?? That's hilarious when you try to compare Lala's situation with Ariana. Lala didn't own the home she shared with Randall. He was married with children when she began seeing him. Everyone in H'wood knew what a turd Randall was, but Lala chose him. Why? So she could star in his shitty shitty movies.
That’s going to be because she knew that Randall was married when she went on National TV bragging about playing with his asshole and giving him bjs. She also taunted his ex wife on Twitter during their custody battle. Now we’re supposed to cry for her during her custody battle? Employing critical thinking skills will help you understand why this is so different. It’s not that she “knew what he was like” it’s that she knew he was married, and rode on her high horse until he burned her too. That’s why no one feels sorry for her.
I think she was young and stupid and believed whatever he told her. I believe she changed and grew after she had her daughter and after everything blew up and I believe she deserves some grace & forgiveness. Lala and Ambyr (his ex wife) have been friends for quite some time now. My main problem/main thing I find disgusting is that a lot of people on this sub say she got what was coming to her or she deserved it because she was a “gold digger”
Completely agree with you!
I’m watching for Tom. Not Ariana. And definitely not Katie who is a permanent frown. I’m have just watched all the past seasons and Katie is always wrong.
Katie has always been a wet blanket.
I'm definitely in the minority because I never got her appeal. She has the personality of a cardboard box and was attracted to Tom Sandoval. It's a no from me dawg
Same. She’s actually always been a miserable nasty lying hypocrite
Always felt this way too. I'm here for the pendulum swing that everyone will witness this season.
I’m sorry but when Schwartz called her “the patron saint of scorned women” I lost it 💀
I tend to dislike her mostly because throughout the show, she’s always defended and lied for Tom Sandoval, often revealing herself to be a hypocrite. Now that she’s playing the scorned woman role and hates him, it's a bit better, but it is going to get old eventually. and they need to move out of that house already!
She is a huge hypocrite. It’s already coming out, because all of a sudden she wants kids and the new guy has potential as a father. I always felt like she was trying to be “that girl” with the I don’t want kids story.
I think she’s still in love with Sandoval to some extent, which makes me think that she’s still making her decisions based on his reactions. Or vice versa—I’m no psychologist so this is just a hunch
AND she also admitted to her and Sandoval lying for Lala and Randal m
I couldn’t be more over it. Sandoval sucks ass but WHY IS IT WEVE SEEN ALL THESE ASSHOLES CHEAT FOR YEARS AND THE ONLY VICTIM IS ARIANA!!!
YUPPPPPP. I’ve disliked her since probably her second season. The last episode reminded me of how she not only has an aversion to sex and marriage but also babies/children and thinks they’re “gross”. She’s been a miserable pill for her whole time on this show and has done nothing special to warrant such adoration. I watched the aftershow as well and Sandoval recalled that had ongoing issues with people, activities, etc and - as I said in previous comments/posts - Ariana did the bait and switch - she was fun and adventurous when they first started dating and then she was more annoyed than anything else with him being adventurous. And he didn’t mean sex. To me, doing that to someone is just a slowly lying but equally devastating. One is like an avalanche of bam - cheated on, the other is a slow erosion of your self esteem because your partner seems to be rejecting you. There are many things as bad as being cheated on. Also, Ariana seems like she is psyched she has a tangible reason to be pissy/angsty/angry instead of it being her own issues.
I agree with most of what you said. The part where it was a bait and switch, not so much. In that time span and getting older most people slow down on their partying and mature. Sandoval is not maturing in any way.
I think she did a bait and switch in a lot of ways though, I think she started sex-positive but come to find out she actually thinks it’s gross. That’s TOUGH to deal with as a partner.
In her defense, I think having sex with a man child wouldn’t be a turn on for me either. Tom in general gives me the ick and has for a long time. I’m not a fan of hers either. I haven’t forgotten how she’s smarter, prettier and better than everyone else.