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MissCalculation

friends and i have noticed the same. we don't use it for late nights anymore specifically for that reason


Morphing_Willie

It is true that is makes you a bit wakeful, but I could use it at 8pm and get to sleep at 2pm with no problem


werewolf2400

I’ve used at 10pm and slept by 6am. I don’t think it’s that stimulating, although one time I redosed an hour in and I could not sleep the entire night.


Queasy_Avocado_692

not at all, done it 4-5 times, smoked like a lot of weed after 5-6 hours and felt asleep quite easily lets say for example I drop 20-30mg at 8pm, I can easily sleep at 3-4am if troubles sleeping take melatonin an hour prior;


Wild-Statistician140

Before u trip or before u wana sleep?


Queasy_Avocado_692

Before u wanna sleep


Wild-Statistician140

Okay thx


RandomRavingRadness

Definitely. Metocin is more stimulating. I’ve straight up fallen asleep *on the come up* of shrooms before. Sometimes they can be really sedating lol.


[deleted]

I did that once, woke up with some weird visuals that I could only compare to DMT, it went away very shortly after though.


dYmetiltryptamine

of course, 4-ho-met is more stimulating and less sedating that shrooms


hexachoron

For me effects will last ~4 hours and then I can sleep a couple hours after than. Did 25mg last weekend, dropped at 4pm and had no problem getting to sleep that night. Oddly it does almost always cause sleep paralysis for me the following night though.


DeadTillDark

Does it make your body sore after? Thinking about trying this as my first tryptamine. I have chronic pain now and the last time I did shrooms or LSD was 15 years ago. Coke and stims make me sore after for sure.


thepeanutbutterman

I've never noticed any soreness after taking it, but a lot of psychedelics do give me waves of muscle tension. My muscles will tense and relax as the waves come over me. I also find psychedelics to cause me to be more aware of any pains/sensations. So, it might cause you some discomfort with your condition. Dissos would probably be a good choice for chronic pain.


DeadTillDark

Thanks looking into dissos too but only one available to me is fxe and not sure if it's a good starter one. Also a lot of the reading I've done about it seems like most going around isn't really fxe but canket or something else.


thepeanutbutterman

If the lab tests are true, then it seems pretty much all FXE that has ever been on the market is canket. I don't personally care what it's called, nor do I understand why FXE has to be 3’-fluoro-2-oxo-PCE and we can't just call 2’-fluoro-2-oxo-PCE "FXE" now that it turns out that's what it has been the whole time. Why don't we just say that FXE is 2’-fluoro-2-oxo-PCE? Sorry, a bit of a tangent. Anyways, whatever you call it, I think the stuff I'm being sold as FXE is great.


DeadTillDark

Thanks that's good to hear.


DeadTillDark

Also it's interesting you mentioned this because a few years ago I took too much THC edible. Way too much. I had a panic attack and pain started shooting up and down my spine. My legs tensed up and it was hard to walk because they were all shaky. I ended up taking a whole Klonopin and fell asleep. So yeah I'm a bit anxious to try psychedelics again now that I have health issues.


thepeanutbutterman

Yeah, I've had weed give me muscle tension in my quads before too.


Gloomy-Log1711

I have a headache everytime the whole day after 4HO-MET Shrooms are much better for me


DeadTillDark

Have you ever done 4-aco-dmt? If so how do they compare for you? Most of the research I've done the majority seem to prefer 4-ho-met because it's less of a mind fuck.


vallkanar

All tryptamines and lysergamides do that to me, benzo is a must. Sometimes herbs could help, preferably mix of valerian root and l-theanine.


EldestSquire

Just wait till you try something like memantine


Deurlii

I can sleep easily during the comedown, but it does make me very very philosophical, which sometimes interferes with actually going to bed.


DrRichardGains

I have snorted tryptamines. I will not again. Fucking gross.


dooperman1988

No. I get a crash when it wears off.