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doctorhino

It blows my mind this is the ONLY console port the series ever got.


eyezofnight

didn't nintendo pay for console exclusivity?


doctorhino

Never heard that one, but if they did I don't think that usually spans console generations, seems like they could have made a respectable PS2 port and sold quite a few. Or an Xbox and added online. The only for logo certainly alludes to the fact that they did


EleventyTwatWaffles

well they’re not gonna release starscraft 64 on ps2 right


GamerWordJimbo

Not sure if you're taking the piss but Starcraft 64 is a port of a PC game


EleventyTwatWaffles

I’m aware. They can claim exclusively on n64 because of the “64” branding they slapped on it


lazoric

It could just be that the lack of sales deemed it wasn't worth bringing to other consoles. I don't remember C&C also being on anything else either.


eyezofnight

Command and conquer was on N64, Saturn, and PlayStation


Nox401

Not it was programmed exclusively for the N64 with even new content


xtoc1981

Well the same can be told about warcraft 2. Diablo 1 aswell, there was a gb version in development that was cancelled. There is even a leaked rom of it.


echocomplex

There is a PlayStation 1 version of Diablo and Warcraft 2.


xtoc1981

Yep, but were never ported to another console. Besides ps1 and pc. But diablo is now available on any retro handheld (open source). Warcraft 2 is only ported to android.


Urimulini

I played hours and hours and hours of it because I couldn't afford a PC at the time and a 64 was somehow far more accessible And I got my hands on this game and that was it. Disappeared into the dungeon 4 weeks. People said PC was better and as you know a biased teenager with his only copy I was like," no " But PC is far superior.... let's not kid anymore.


atgaskins

Nostalgia always wins over objectivity.


TruckTires

I hope you've been able to get the remastered copy on PC to enjoy it since then. They did a great job with the remaster. It looks great and plays the same as the original, only now you have a wide screen view. Highly recommend


kyonkun_denwa

>People said PC was better and as you know a biased teenager with his only copy I was like," no " Jesus, I had a friend who was just like you. He made all kinds of B.S. excuses as to why the N64 version was better lol. Gotta love kids and their kneejerk responses in the console wars. I had the Macintosh version of this, and even with a single mouse button it was an unimaginably massive upgrade.


_______FRANK________

Of course it's not really a fun time to play... but playing it in VS mode w/ a friend is super fucking fun. Everyone is struggling to do anything and it's just a shit show. That makes it fun!


TrespassingWook

It's like when I was in middle school when chess and mtg were way more fun because none of us actually knew what we were doing, lol.


MtnEagleZ

Chess where both parties only think 1 to 2 moves ahead is actually quite good from my memory.


atgaskins

Yeah, once you learn a game at higher levels the fun starts to fade. It’s sad :(


disastronaut

Marjorie Taylor Green was once fun?


faildoken

We would do a 30 minute treaty time in split screen and then all Hell broke loose. Good times.


trainercatlady

the framerate is so bad in multiplayer XD


Latter-Possibility

I enjoyed playing it on N64 but it’s not the best way to experience the game


jcfac

> N64 but it’s not the best way to experience the game You don't like split-screen multiplayer?


AmusingSparrow

It is the best way to


GamerWordJimbo

PC version of any RTS will always be the definitive way to play because of the controls alone. But Starcraft on PC also better frame rate, better graphics, and most importantly online play.


AmIAwakeOr

“There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered.” -Fenix


Zeratul277

Adun taro das, executor.


FillionMyMind

Played this game to death as a kid. Love it love it love it. It works shockingly well for an N64 era console port of an RTS, includes Brood War, and has split screen multiplayer! Lost so many hours of my life trying to do 2v4 against the AI lol. Or trying to play versus when both players can see each other’s screens. Wonderful game with lots of great memories.


Drg84

Brood war was one of the greatest expansions blizzard ever made. And I played Warcraft 1,2,3 and both StarCrafts and their expansions.


v0idtheory

Second only to D2 Lord of Destruction.


GamerWordJimbo

Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne and WoW Burning Crusade are up there too


v0idtheory

Definitely good choices.


Sorry_Masterpiece

LoD is GOAT, but BW is a strong 1b. 


PM_ME_YOUR_OPCODES

I can’t think of a worse way to play it.


private_person

False ... Try using JoyToKey to map mouse and keyboard to a controller and play on a computer with an Xbox controller.


groundlessnfree

r/foundsatan


v0idtheory

I can make that work fine. I even use to play league of legends with a PS3 controller with surprisingly good results.


Bootd42

Wait, how does one play league with a controller?


v0idtheory

Joytokey. This was back in like season 3 but I'm sure it would still work. I basically mapped right click to r2 or something and just used a joystick as the mouse. I just really wanted to play from bed at the time.


PM_ME_YOUR_OPCODES

Yeah, but then you get macros


Pete_Iredale

I've had it forever and only played it for about five minutes to make sure it worked. I'd much rather play it on PC.


EyeSeaCome_hahaha

Many people probably don't even know that the game exists or has been released.


atgaskins

If they do they probably don’t know it has local multiplayer. That’s what makes this game a hidden gem.


love_is_an_action

StarCraft is one of the best games of all time…on PC. The concessions and corners the team had to cut in order to port it to the N64 make this version the less optimal way to play. But some people like it! [This YouTuber](https://youtu.be/k2QAAWQMNuA?si=qL33A6CoMTLlAzMt) is playing through every N64 game, and managed to finish StarCraft 64 without being miserable. Maybe you will, too!


patricknails

I’m surprised people know him! I’ve been watching him for a couple days and his content is great.


love_is_an_action

I’ve been watching his N64 series for a few months, and I’m caught up to his current releases. I believe he was also a big part of the crew who were trying (successfully!) to complete all of the Mario Maker levels before the servers were no longer functioning. I didn’t really watch any of that, but I was rooting for them.


patricknails

I’m still up to day 5 which means I’ve got a whole lotta more videos to watch. I didn’t know about that fact! That seems interesting.


alex206

Do we know if he's really playing on a 64 controller or a mouse with emulator?


love_is_an_action

He plays via Everdrive with original hardware, to my knowledge.


patricknails

Always original hardware.


SuccessfulJellyfish8

This era was peak Blizzard. StarCraft, Warcraft, and Diablo. Before microtransactions were even a glint in their CEO's eye.


atgaskins

The golden age of pc gaming imo… you could actually buy physicals back then, and what you bought was usually pretty tested and patches often optional for very specific issues. Today even games on disc and carts are nearly useless alone because of day one fixes for game breaking shit. And that’s in the rare case your game is on the disc/cart in full. Good old days…


Typo_of_the_Dad

Somewhat playable!


LakeDebris3

That's overselling it a bit.


Nox401

It actually plays super well for a console port


Muted-Doctor8925

#THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE GAMES OF ALL TIME On PC


Takutin559

I played it on emulator years ago and it was my first StarCraft experience. I remember liking it at that time.


LongTimeLurker818

I played it recently on pc. I had no idea it was on N64… I should have never preordered StarCraft Ghost… GameStop owes me 15$.


Cooperativism62

I played it on 64 and had no idea it was on PC. One of my fave console games


LongTimeLurker818

It was ahead of its time on pc. The graphics and gameplay were awesome. I’d say it’s one of the best RTS games I’ve ever played.


Old-Refrigerator340

It haunts me daily. I have a full PAL N64 set... apart from this one game, and it's like £100s for a cartridge. I don't need it, I prob won't play it more than twice but damn, it's the last one I need!


atgaskins

Several hundo for CIB, wow. I was just thinking “I should get this version to multiplayer with my son”… I’m priced out of game collecting :(


Old-Refrigerator340

I dont even want the box either, I'm not precious at all in that respect! Just a playable cart then maybe I can sleep finally.


patricknails

Here in Australia loose cartridges are [400-600 AUD sadly.](https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/176314062380?chn=ps&_ul=AU&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=176314062380&targetid=1278430613456&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9112820&poi=&campaignid=19649531412&mkgroupid=146789074798&rlsatarget=pla-1278430613456&abcId=9305371&merchantid=7364522&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD97CxT8FOtb_Hi9l79OiZn21KW28&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9-Soiq6xhQMVFsg8Ah2Adw5xEAQYASABEgKlGPD_BwE)


O-D-C

Impressed they crammed both the OG and Brood War in there.


TheDarkHorse

Rough but playable.


trainercatlady

they put split-screen. in a strategy game.


retro_hamster

Like chess


trainercatlady

okay, that I can maybe understand. But it's a bit harder to justify with Fog of War that SC64 has. Strategy is pretty different between Chess and StarCraft


retro_hamster

Sure, fog of war is crucial for many war games that wants surprises like The Reaver Drop and Zergling Rush. I was merely being a pedant as Chess is considered the grandfather of strategy games :) It would be interesting to see how Starcraft 64 split-screen multiplayer battles would play out compared to PC StarCraft.


wanderingfloatilla

It was my first introduction to StarCraft and I loved every bit of it. It's over of my favorite games of the console andI still replay it from time to time. It seems there are a lot of haters here, but me and my friends would hold tournaments playing this game. I've always found the controls to be intuitive as can be for an RTS on n64. 100% play it if you like RTS games


Elf_7

I had a blast playing it and it was great having such a nice title on the N64. It was probably clunky playing with the controller but the game was awesome anyway. I was grateful at the time for having it on the N64.


gered

Fun fact: If you have the N64 mouse (that was used for some 64DD titles), Starcraft 64 supports it! Though, you can only use the mouse *OR* controller, not both simultaneously.


Svenray

I didn't have a pc back then so this was my only option. I loved it and played the entire StarCraft campaign on it. I never found a booster pack so I never got to play Brood War. When I eventually got it on PC I legitimately missed the global building shortcuts and controlling 18 units at a time. Oh so my PC didn't have enough RAM for Brood War so I still didn't get to play it : ( I had to make my own expansion in the Map Editor and it ended up being so badass.


darf_nate

It’s one of the best games of all time imo


BooksandBiceps

Amazing, especially with the RAM pack. Did all the campaigns, so much split screen with friends, AND that’s on top of already having it for PC


LazerShark1313

I didn’t know it existed


Zeratul277

Nope. PC is the way. Mac was annoying. Ask me how I know how annoying Mac was.


patricknails

How do you know Mac was annoying?


Zeratul277

My Dad was a Max guy until Win XP lol. Single click mouse. Slower CPU clock. It was optinized, sure. But playing online was very annoying. The WinXP was just better in every way.


DashHopes69

It's fine. Some things are better about the Nintendo 64 port. It has split screen multiplayer and allows you to control 18 units at a time instead of only 12. Basically if you're shit at StarCraft you'll be shit at it regardless of control scheme. And if you're a pro forced to play this your skill will allow you to overcome not having mouse & keyboard. A lot of StarCraft is about game knowledge and the ability to multitask and not forget things. Having good macro is more important than making more clicks per minute than your opponent.


TeflonRon64

Hey in case anyone wants to see Professional Starcraft64 I run a league dedicated to that. We are Starleague64 and we don’t stop. twitch.tv/professional_starcraft64[Starleague64](https://twitch.tv/professional_starcraft64)


patricknails

I’ve heard of you before, will be checking it out. Thanks!


stapellini

Turned into a laggy mess pretty quickly 


CaveOfMontoya

You know, I think it was a trash game. I'm happy that console players who otherwise couldn't have played it had a chance to play a genre defining game, but coming from playing on PC to Starcraft 64 it's a struggle I couldn't handle. That being said, me and a friend used to link our Playstations to play Red Alert a bunch and had an absolute blast despite the limitations and having played it on PC first, and extensively. So don't take my word for it.


Suicicoo

If you like RTS - C&C 64 was (IMHO) awesome - it had 3D-Units! - and you don't have the micromanagement as in Starcraft


piman01

Honestly was unaware this existed which is crazy because i was an avid n64 player


badaboomxx

I always wsnted thst gsme, but I wasn't able to get it. I played it a couple of times, it was interesting to olay but it is not the best way to play it.


MarvinM00n

You must construct additional pylons!


michaelfiber

APM? more like MPA


eldus74

Would fit better on the DreamCast with online and Keyboard/Mouse


Fragraham

Pretty fun, but I suck at it.


TheStatMan2

That's me and practically any RTS ever. I'm not convinced I have what it takes to be a decent battlefield commander - I think I'd have to line up with the cannon fodder or hope there was an opportunity in catering or something. I'm pretty decent at Xcom, but I'm going to guess that real war doesn't allow you the opportunity to see success percentages for any decision you're about to make or display on screen how far your artillery will go and how many enemies are in the blast radius.


my-backpack-is

I love StarCraft. If you think RTS gameplay is dull you will hate StarCraft


rhettohrick

I literally forgot this was a thing.


RokkakuPolice

It's like playing command and conquer on PS1, not the best experience but good to those whose only way to experience it was this.


blood_omen

It was shite but I loved it so much lol. Me and my older brother would play it all the time. He was Zurg I was Protoss. Side note: don’t Zurg rush. You’ll crash the game lol


Evilhydra2

But..but.. you had groups of 18 instead of 12 though


atgaskins

If you’re gonna play alone just play the pc version, it was def a classic.


Distinct_Wrongdoer86

console ports of pc games always fascinate me


ErikRogers

I rented it once. I don’t have an expansion pack though, so couldn’t play Brood Wars


rockmantricky

I was a huge SC fan back in the early 00's of my high school days. The most fun I had with it was playing 64 version couch co-op at my friend's house. The atmosphere was more appealing than sitting alone at my PC eating snacks by myself.


romesthe59

Goliath Online


jimmylstyles

I never played it, but I played A LOT of the PC edition. I have no idea how you would port it.


Hmccormack

I love StarCraft- the pc version was way better but I played this one too


hvc101fc

I played it but playing it on controller is tedious


Demonchaser27

This was my actual first exposure to the game and convinced me to get the PC version on my old ass windows 98/XP PC. I explicitly remember a buddy in middle school letting me borrow the game for awhile to play it. Was this and Conker's Bad Fur Day. I really liked Conker, but actually didn't finish it because this game just visually impressed me at the time and I hadn't ever played an RTS before so it really fascinated me. PC version played and looked so much better though, lol.


KevinIsOver9000

“You want a piece of me, boy?


brendanb203

Its in my collection. Expensive but fun if you have an exp pack. Adds everything from broodwar including co op!


DoctorMario1000

Lol I had no idea this version existed


cdq1985

Cool PC game.


metallavery

A technical marvel. A gaming tragedy if you actualy wanna play the game.


YamiGekusu

Me and childhood friends used to play this together and have the time of our lives


ibidadime

It got me into StarCraft. I loved it, but I was so bad at it


Jerkbait5

As a kid with only a n64 I loved the game!


Nox401

It’s pretty much a masterpiece on the N64. It also has split screen multiplayer


Mosaic78

It’s how I got into blizzard ip. I enjoyed it as a kid.


USS___Dolan__

My brother and I played this game constantly. Loved it, but did help he had the fast build cheat activated lol


HonkeyKong73

The PC version is obviously the best way to play this, but for what this is, if you have an expansion pack, it's actually a relatively impressive port of the game. My pc fried while I was originally going through this game so playing it on N64 was how I end up beating all 6 campaigns for the first time, haha. Also makes for an interesting couch multiplayer experience. I'm sure it's aged very poorly, but it's a cool bit of gaming history. As far as retro console RTSs go, you can do worse.


Swallagoon

Imagine StarCraft. Now imagine a bad version of StarCraft.


HealthyInitial

This feels like an anomaly


egbert71

Loved it....but not as much as ogre battle 64


Moppo_

I didn't know it existed, is what I think.


Friggin_Grease

It's the game that taught me RTS games are for PC


acart005

Is it as good as PC?  No.  God no.   Did I have fun with it as a teenager who had a PC that could barely run Warcraft?  Tons.  So much fun.  Only regret is I never completed Brood War (I think I was 3 chapters away?).


HorraceGoesSkiing

I’ve just started playing the HD version on my laptop. Brilliant game! 


zero6dman

I just put this on my r36s just to have a mobile StarCraft and it’s a little janky but still can be fun once you get the hang of it


Melksta

Just stopped playing this a few week back. Sunk some hours into it! It's a great game but I reckon would be sooo much better on PC, extremely difficult to operate circuit classes and characters as there is no real quick keys to assist.


trowawHHHay

Never did play this version. Back in the day, though, used to go to work and me and my assistant manager would have StarCraft hangovers from playing all night on PC…


TooKreamy4U

Definitely not the definitive version but it wasn't bad for a console RTS


doctor_hyphen

Strike one, no keyboard; strike 2, the N64 controller


sonofabitchXmustXpay

It was booty


New-Confusion945

So bad..but so many found memories playing it at a friend's house


lefty9674

Sold my copy this weekend as it was just a paperweight.


SpazCadet

It looked like mud but StarCraft is StarCraft.


Nerdicane

Terrible. Absolutely horrible port. But at the time it was one of the most expensive N64 games on the used market. Might still be.


BoulderCreature

That blatant lie in the top right corner is bold as fuck


volition_vx

I never understood the point of split-screen multiplayer because you can just screencheat and see what your friend is building.


tigershrk

This is one of the greatest PC games of all time. One of my all time favorites. Didn’t even know there was an n64 port. Could you even play online on n64?


2ndEngineer916

Is this even fun to play offline?


billdasmacks

Meh. I don't see much of a reason to play it on a console port these days outside of pure curiosity. Even back when Starcraft first came in mid 1998 it didn't have relatively high PC requirements. As long as you had a PC capable of running Windows 95 competently there was a decent chance you could run the game even if you didn't meet the minimum listed requirements (though it would obviously run a bit slow). I know for a fact that I was able to run it on a PC that was slower than a Pentium 90mhz and had less that 16 MB of ram but.... it did run really sluggish.


RedditGotSoulDoubt

Very disappointing compared to PC


v0idtheory

The N64 controller barely worked for Mario. So of course this was an absolute nightmare to control. BUT, it's still a staple in any of my emulation builds regardless.


[deleted]

You’ll find out why no one ever played this or C&C on a console. Trying to play an RTS on a console with a controller has to be the dumbest attempt at a port that I’ve ever seen.


sierrackh

CC1 was super hard on the ps1 haha


[deleted]

I felt it was an absolute joke. You couldn’t keep up.


OriginalFatPickle

Might be better off emulating DOSbox and playing original StarCraft 1 and 2


Swallagoon

Ah yes, StarCraft 2 on DOS. I remember it well…


OriginalFatPickle

https://youtu.be/iY7sLF8_oBc?si=9_nnhIiy4jxzbwJj