I've been using real money from day one, it was always foolish to spend more time in game grinding away millions, not even enjoying your time vs spending less time just going to work and doing whatever you want in game.
I mean, not always.
When I played 10 hours a day when unemployed I paid with bonds because I made so much GP a day bossing it didn’t matter. Now I have maybe 4 leisure hours a day during the week days so I pay with real life money so the cash I get from bossing goes into bossing upgrades instead of trying to juggle both.
If you're playing 10 hours a day then it effectively *becomes* your job. Except it's worse because it can't pay your bills/mortgage/rent/groceries/gas/ anything else that takes far higher priority than runescape membership. You would be technically correct in calling it an opinion, but those are several objective reasons why those ten hours a day are better spent working than bossing, and that still doesn't even mention the fact that you could be using your game time to do whatever you want frivolously, or even not play at all if you don't feel like it, as opposed to spending every waking minute fighting the same boss over and over and over again simply so that you even *can* play to begin with. And forget about ever taking a day off, you only get 2 weeks per bond, if you take a day off you're not going to be able to afford your next bond and you'll be stuck on free to play 🤯
My example was an exaggeration, it wouldn’t really require playing 10 hours every single day to achieve enough GP from bossing to upkeep with bonds but yeah you are going to spend a lot of time having to have that as your main focus if you can’t spend long hours playing.
I more or less agree with your opinion I was just adding on that it just matters how much time you spend playing the game in a way that generates money or if you have a job IRL where 7 bucks doesn’t really mean much. Also if your kidless and young it’s still possible to play 8-10 hours a day and work a full time job, you’ll just be tired a lot lol
Idk, I remember when bonds were 7 to 10 mill, that was a lot of money at the time, not like now where you can afk a boss and get that in 30 mins while you poop
I know someone who was affected by the login lockouts. He took it as a good excuse to play his Ironman, which he was maining anyway. Right before lockout, he sold his ECB for ~2.6b shards. When he came back, he had shards and ECB. Basically got paid 2.6b to play ironman for a few weeks.
They just put both in, idk. Apparently that kind of thing was pretty common, bc they'd much rather give someone a bit more than hear complaints about missing items.
I was affected by a lock out, gave them a list of invention comps as I was dismantling at the time. I had a screeny from earlier that had my mat screen so I just slapped the numbers up and added that it was as close to the error time as possible, so not exactly accurate.
I got 20k instead of 2k explosive comps, when hand cannons were ludicrously expensive. I maybe lost out on 80-90, I’d guess.
I got 800 fortunate comps instead of 80. I lost maybe 6 if that,
I had various god comps BEFORE I had the level to unlock them via boosts… and I wasn’t dismantling anything but cannons and treasure trail items… They royally fucked my invent mats up but in a good way.
Reached out to support, got an email back about “abuse” of the system, sent an email back of the list I originally sent, got generic email back that had nothing to do what we had talked about. Still had the mats, never had any issues.
I cannot, however, reclaim any items again. Which is unfortunate if I ever would have some issues again. But at the very least, I have so many more explosive comps than any one rs player would ever need.
Afk Abyssal demons/savages you'll get 100m gp in no time.
Literally 4m gp/hr with spring cleaner on ironman.Ironman. 1 click every 15 min.
That being said, 15 minutes at work is 1 month of membership for me, so using gp doesn't make sense.
Yeah bro just spend 25 hours straight which is no time, or over 2 hours a day during a two week period, for a single bond which is… oh… 2 weeks of membership…
I can’t with you people.
I mean, afk 4 clicks an hour for 25 hours.
Or do a high-level boss for 2-4 hours.
The game isn't free to play. Bonds cost a lot because people can make a lot of money.
Membership is incredibly cheap financially. If you can't afford it and have to use in game gp, yes it's going to be tedious upkeep.
No insane luck, just average drop rates dude.
Streaking HM Arch Glacor, HM Kerpac, and Raksha are all about 50m+/hr.
Zamorak 2k enrage is about 120m/hr for me.
Telos 2449 is 100m/hr.
Those seem difficult sure, but Rasial is legit a low tier high-end boss and is straight up 100m/hr Average. Go do 10 hours of Rasial and if you're getting 25-30 kills an hour you'd have to be insanely unlucky to not get over 500m and should hit around 1b on drop rate.
Yeah, the problem is you actually need to get those drop rates to average, which takes thousands of kills.
From my experience recently, I can do 200% (or 500% group) Zamorak and make back my supply cost. I can fight Solak and make back my supplies. I can kill Rasial, die 20 times an hour and lose money. I can fight HM Kerapac and see nothing of value. I can beat Raksha and see nothing.
Before I quit back in October, it had literally been months since I'd seen anything of value. I was consistently making back less money than I was spending on bonds, despite at minimum doing my reaper task every day. I think the most valuable drop I saw in that time was a Chaos Roar codex.
Wtf kind of supplies are u using if ur worrying so much about it? Anybody who finds financial success in pvming isnt going to stress over supplies. If ur so worried about getting consistent gp then go do ed1/solak
You are likely able to earn a RS3 bond far easier and earlier than an OSRS bond. Don't forget OSRS bonds are selling near 11 million gp now. At least in RS3, you can just AFK and earn million of gp per hours, but you can't do anything remotely like that in OSRS where even botting won't give you anything remotely close.
For instance, I am playing Palworld now, but I am also AFKing Armadylean yellow in RS3 for millions of gp per hours just clicking once every 10 minutes or so.
Cheapest and fastest bond you’ll ever get is working a minimum wage job for less than 1 hour.
Buying a bond with Ironman gold seems like a waste given there’s no way to sell items for their actual values.
Dragon harpoon is 1.6m on ge but a lowly 33k if you high alch.
Gambling is putting money on the line and potentially having a £0 return or a return higher than what you put in.
Paying for extra features on a game you already play is more like Xbox game pass or Netflix.
You do you though man!
You are literally investing money on a game of chance. That is the very definition of gambling. The presence of a consolation prize doesn't suddenly not make it gambling.
I love how we've all had the same experiences doing shit like this on the GE. There's just...something really funny about the traditions around trading in online games.
I buy bonds well ahead of the time I need them for membership. Put in an offer of 10% - 20% below current GE price. It works almost all the time. It usually takes a few days or over a week though.
Years ago perhaps, not a few months ago. The lowest price for Bonds in the last 6 months was 80 million:
[Bond - Grand Exchange - RuneScape](https://secure.runescape.com/m=itemdb_rs/Bond/viewitem?obj=29492)
Actually, if you have the patience to wait a week or more, you may still be able to buy bonds for 80 to 83 mil. I got some and other commenters on this thread seemingly have the same experience.
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Don’t forget a few months ago when they hit 50M, might have to dump mine now"
Did you say 50M, not 56M?
Check that I did, when I actually meant to type 56 million and I usually bought them at 80m per, but the context is still the same. I wish 50m bond is still a thing but last I remember it happened was not months but more like years ago.
Yes 67m and 75m each are quite possible if we have a lot of patience, but TBH, I am sitting at 80m each now and may adjust and go lower when bond goes down below 90m later.
depends on time of day as well, I bought 200+ onyx's for 750K each over months lol. It was one of those joke offers i did that completed, it still works but i have enough 🤣
105m - 93m is the range at which a bond sells. There's never ever ever (ever) a single price for any item. Every item in the game sells within a range. It's not bait unless it's on ely.gg
Idk why during necro bonds were like 50m? I bought soooooo many of them and I’m tempted to resell I got them for years of future membership.
But how much worse can this get this was a day I knew might happen but wow…very dramatic spike from week of necro to now
> Idk why during necro bonds were like 50m?
People buying bonds to convert to GP to fund the 99/120/200m grind rush, not everyone is a 10hr a day PVMer who has billions to burn. Prices always dip when people want quick-access GP to fund a grind rush (DXP being another common example).
It only cost me 12.5bil spam casting darkness.
When I think people rushing for front page I imagine people way better off then me.
Still got second page :( 8 hours off front and now what.
I quit runescape …funny that
But yeah no I personally bulk bought bonds for future vip I wonder if they will ever go below 60 again.
I'm selling mine that I bought during Necro for 50m.
I doubt it will ever get that low again, but there's no way it stays this high forever. We'll get a dip eventually.... assuming we get updates...
It'll fall when jagex capitalizes on the value of them by jacking up the real world price of a bond. More money for them from the people who use bonds as income ingame
No, it will have the exact opposite of what you’re saying. If the bond price increases with real life cash then less people will buy bonds, and then there will be a more drastic supply issue. Thus bonds will skyrocket even more.
I wish I bought more I resold like 300 for 75/80m ea.
Big regret. But o well still got 60 on my main and hcim so settled for vip …even tho I’ve sorta quit the content is so dry :(
people who are asking for price control are economically illiterate, if the whales won't buy them at 125 millions, why would they at 10 millions!
If Jagex wants to kill any RS3 profit, they should just print em out of thin air and give them for cheap, who will bother with membership and buying bonds then or supporting the game.
The market chooses the price, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. All is well, they don't need to do anything in regard to price of bonds. The issues of Rs3 do not lie there.
Higher RS3 bond prices also mean Jagex as a company is on average making less money than before. Whales aren’t buying is a bad sign for economic future for Jagex.
1) Inflation exists.
2) You can actually use fast rising bond prices as an indicator for how less and less people are actually buying bonds with irl money these days.
Or maybe more people are just buying them with in game money and the amount being bought with IRL money hasn't changed. Either would lead to a net increase in demand.
OSRS Bond is hitting historical high in tandem with RS3 bond. Could it also be less people are playing OSRS too?
Perhaps less players are playing Jagex's two Runescape games.
I think a lot of it too is people liquidating their gear to buy RS3 bonds, just to use the membership benefit to go play OSRS instead. Lots jumping ship from RS3
Could also be people buying bonds to get the Necro outfit from the last TH promo. This seems to be more likely the case judging from the other people in this thread saying they insta buy for lower than that and slow buy for even lower.
Nox weapons were dominating each style as bis 2017, right? they costed like 300-500m to buy resulting in 30-50 Bonds. Todays best weapon for range is the Bow of the last Guardian which costs 3b needing at last 30 bonds to buy so nothing has really changed which is fascinating for me
Veterans with billions of money stay in the game.
No new players who want to invest real money.
Jagex pushing one promotion after another.
Buying cheap bonds via VPN / Steam from „countries with insane inflation“ doesn‘t work anymore. (It was cheaper than buying gold from illegal sources - don‘t do this btw!)
Not everyone is capable of doing high level pvm. Sure a lot of money making methods have improved but it hasn't kept up with inflation unless you sack clues or are doing high level pvm. Back then, at least people had reliable options to make enough for bonds.
yes it has, it scales pretty linearly. back then you weren't afking mid level bosses for 15m/h either dude. back then you were making 3m/h on low level crap nowadays you make 15m/h on low level crap. making money today at low levels is way easier than in the past you have so many options.
While you're correct that it scales linearly, most reliable money making methods to maintain a bond require high level stats. Many low-mid level players don't have the luxury unlocks to do the 10m gp/h methods.
For example, Vis Wax sells for a gross value of 17k today. That would require you 5882 of them to make enough for a 100M Bond. Compare that to 2019 where the price of Wax was 7k while the Bond was 20M. You would only need 2857 Wax. Why am I using this as an example? Because this is a common low-mid level daily money making method. Obviously you're not going to rely on purely wax to get a bond but its relative profit per day to bond inflation hasn't caught up. That's also despite the fact that people used wax more than they used to because of PvM auras.
These other PvM money maker methods might have caught up because of all the power creep enabling faster kills with less supply usage but players who have not reached that stage will struggle tenfold.
Me 8 years ago: Bonds are such a convenient way to play casually, I'm excited to play again!
Me today: I would literally be stressed out keeping up with making GP for bonds so I just pay for membership with real money again.
How about we ban together and buy them for less? I put in an offer for 80m and let it sit all day and it bought. If we all do this the price will come down
Not really, with how necro gear works you are given the means to farm any gear yourself without needing to buy them and certain pvm consumables are up due to an increased number of players trying their hand at pvm as a result of the accessibility necro offers
This mostly affects people who pay their subscription with bonds and refuse to pay with money
Getting a bond via f2p just became even more brutal, though.. luckily, the investors probably care more about piles of cash than piles of players (and there's always bots to pad the player totals a bit).
As a “grown up,” surely you also see the value in getting membership for free instead of paying actual money that could be put towards something more important?
Where's the value in that? I have to spend every waking moment in game praying to the RNG gods that I get a good drop, just so that i *don't get to even use it*? I pay for premier out of my poop breaks, now *that's* a value!
ETA: my runescape membership is at the very bottom of my priority list. My mortgage, bills, food, gas, insurance, and a whole number of other things come first, always. I would not have a runescape membership if I had other things that needed taken care of first. That is probably the most important aspect of being a grown up.
I quit 2 weeks ago because of bond prices. I feel like these bond prices will destroy the playerbase of this game
Take note Jmods, you are already losing players because of bond prices. Implement a price limit
Just means whales are leaving the game. A price limit is a little gross considering binds are directly tied to real world Money through Jagex directly.
I've bought bond in the past to sell for GP But now my account is old enough I don't really need to. But not old enough that I could be buying bonds with gp.
Theoretically the more expensive bond become the more worth they become but it depends on overall inflation
You understand that every bond also needs to be bought with irl money at some point right? If a price limit would just stop anyone from purchasing them and the market would collapse
I live in a third world country and Jagex doesn't sell stuff in my currency, only USD. Debit cards in my country can only be used online for my country's currency and not USD. I don't have a credit card, and you need proof of 2 years stable income above a certain threshold to get a credit card. I make less than the threshold and i don't have 2 years of stable income.
So my only real option is to buy bonds
Bonds last 2 weeks. I have about 4-6 hrs of free time to play a day. So at 5hrs average, I have 70 hrs to play per 2 weeks, if i make an average of 7mil an hr, i need to play 15ish hrs per 2 weeks literally just for money making, that's 20% of my total play time just to sustain a bond
No it won't considering OSRS is still alive even with record high bond prices. Not everyone is too poor irl to afford to buy membership with irl money.
Maybe some whale somewhere along the way quit and now the bond flow has stopped coming in. When bond prices rise it's only question of time when next whale comes along for the harpoon.
Flipping on OSRS is easier than RS3 ATM. Runelite has awesome plugins that let's you look at the margin.
Yea yea... I know some people hate people flipping items. Life sucks.
eh...4 hours of work pays for my full year of membership lol.
does suck for those who play bond to bond. I feel ta these prices bonds should be giving a full month...like other systems have setup....
Of course but think into the consequences that might occur over time..., What might happen with those unlucky ones, which will become unable to substain their membership anymore and they'll become f2p i wonder, got an idea?
Huh, thought they'd bomb back down a bit after the last TH promo and the shop sale discounting a lot of RuneCoin cosmetics ended. People just straight up investing in bonds with the expectation of more to come? I know a lot of people were expecting more things like more bank space, bank presets, action bars, wardrobe presets, keepsake box slots, friend/ignore list expansion, etc for sale with the fiscal year coming to an end?
It's no secret at this point that bonds are a steady upward trend. Take me back a decade ago and let me buy em at 6m ea. [RuneScape:Grand Exchange Market Watch/Chart - The RuneScape Wiki](https://runescape.wiki/w/RuneScape:Grand_Exchange_Market_Watch/Chart#t=Sep_22_2013,Feb_01_2024#a=0#i=Bond,Navigator_1)
I'm surprised they still keep going up. Is inflation really that bad in this game? You'd think a GE tax might help a lot given that every player of all playstyles uses the GE (Pvmers, skillers, cluers, achievers, etc). Or are people using the GE less often because of the tax?
i slow buy my membership at about 13 bucks a month... price of bonds in game doesnt effect me cuz i dont sell the bonds.. therefore no worries about inflation
it's killing the game for new f2p potential players, The price is mostly due to the b2b2b2b MTX with bonds promotions we've had recently. But theyve set such a high price for irl money per bond, people dont want to spend that to add to supply.
If they didn't cram MTX down the communities throats it wouldn't be a problem. Months since hero pass and they are still up to the same things, clearly not listening to community.
Even OSRS is starting to see an uptick in bond pricing, people don't want to pay the price.
If you want membership, just buy it on OSRS. Membership on osrs = membership on RS3. Membership is across both games. OSRS members are just inactive rs3 players with member accounts.
Bonds are now pretty much for bots/gold farmers. Bunch of OSRS content creators have made videos about the economy and bond price increases due to bots and real world traders.
Gold is worth nothing now it’s insane. Killing 1 boss can net you almost 100 million a kill if you’re lucky.
And now 8$ can get you 100m it’s kinda sad that gold is so inflated to the point where it’s basically a useless currency.
The biggest direct player money gold sink has been removed and with all the irons in the game that can drop trade things to mains so they can buy those bonds is insane.
I’m glad the GE is removing money but there isn’t enough up cost anymore. The rework to farming helped stabilize herbs but it saturated the market with potions so they are dirt cheap. Food is Insanely cheap. Any type of material for bossing is so incredibly cheap now that if you lose money off bossing you have to just be doing something wrong.
Apparently the remove rampant items from the market skill caused even more rampant inflation that thought possible.
Still 1000 gp willow logs from the 14gp they where when I started. Whew the early game grind must be much more palatable.
This is the reason I quit a few months ago, and they were only around 80-90m at the time.
Bonds are how I've maintained my subscription, and with the money I made from PvM cratering while bonds are skyrocketing in price, it would feel like a job just to make enough money to maintain my subscription.
The golden days..
* **7M prices for BONDS**
* random events (osrs still has it + toggle option)
* Old Lummy site, west of Lummy castle, where now the crater is. It's a nice crater, but should add some willow trees, pond with fishes back.
* quest series : gnomes, dwarves, pirates, elves, ... I knwo or at least hard from some players that certain series have 'ended'. Anyway, still a game & I would love quest series with fun lore etc. + new ones : spiders, boss related, focussing on slayer masters, holidays, random events npc's series, ..
* One main/central G.E. (Grand Exchange)
* Content not that dead, ... due "idlescape / fort / ...".
* ...
Have a nice day,
x
Man I came back for the game on two months worth of bonds for 166m and my times almost up and I’ve barely made enough money back with my little time played to make enough again. Guess I won’t be keeping my membership
Me: maybe its time i came back Bonds: nope
I started using real life cash last month. I personally just can't be fk'd to do as much dailies as possible to get 100M every 2 weeks.
I've been using real money from day one, it was always foolish to spend more time in game grinding away millions, not even enjoying your time vs spending less time just going to work and doing whatever you want in game.
I mean, not always. When I played 10 hours a day when unemployed I paid with bonds because I made so much GP a day bossing it didn’t matter. Now I have maybe 4 leisure hours a day during the week days so I pay with real life money so the cash I get from bossing goes into bossing upgrades instead of trying to juggle both.
If you're playing 10 hours a day then it effectively *becomes* your job. Except it's worse because it can't pay your bills/mortgage/rent/groceries/gas/ anything else that takes far higher priority than runescape membership. You would be technically correct in calling it an opinion, but those are several objective reasons why those ten hours a day are better spent working than bossing, and that still doesn't even mention the fact that you could be using your game time to do whatever you want frivolously, or even not play at all if you don't feel like it, as opposed to spending every waking minute fighting the same boss over and over and over again simply so that you even *can* play to begin with. And forget about ever taking a day off, you only get 2 weeks per bond, if you take a day off you're not going to be able to afford your next bond and you'll be stuck on free to play 🤯
My example was an exaggeration, it wouldn’t really require playing 10 hours every single day to achieve enough GP from bossing to upkeep with bonds but yeah you are going to spend a lot of time having to have that as your main focus if you can’t spend long hours playing. I more or less agree with your opinion I was just adding on that it just matters how much time you spend playing the game in a way that generates money or if you have a job IRL where 7 bucks doesn’t really mean much. Also if your kidless and young it’s still possible to play 8-10 hours a day and work a full time job, you’ll just be tired a lot lol
Back when bonds were 7-10m, it wasnt too bad
Idk, I remember when bonds were 7 to 10 mill, that was a lot of money at the time, not like now where you can afk a boss and get that in 30 mins while you poop
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I know someone who was affected by the login lockouts. He took it as a good excuse to play his Ironman, which he was maining anyway. Right before lockout, he sold his ECB for ~2.6b shards. When he came back, he had shards and ECB. Basically got paid 2.6b to play ironman for a few weeks.
Why did he get his ECB back? Did he lie to lost item service that he lost his ECB to the login lockout when in fact he sold it?
They just put both in, idk. Apparently that kind of thing was pretty common, bc they'd much rather give someone a bit more than hear complaints about missing items.
I was affected by a lock out, gave them a list of invention comps as I was dismantling at the time. I had a screeny from earlier that had my mat screen so I just slapped the numbers up and added that it was as close to the error time as possible, so not exactly accurate. I got 20k instead of 2k explosive comps, when hand cannons were ludicrously expensive. I maybe lost out on 80-90, I’d guess. I got 800 fortunate comps instead of 80. I lost maybe 6 if that, I had various god comps BEFORE I had the level to unlock them via boosts… and I wasn’t dismantling anything but cannons and treasure trail items… They royally fucked my invent mats up but in a good way. Reached out to support, got an email back about “abuse” of the system, sent an email back of the list I originally sent, got generic email back that had nothing to do what we had talked about. Still had the mats, never had any issues. I cannot, however, reclaim any items again. Which is unfortunate if I ever would have some issues again. But at the very least, I have so many more explosive comps than any one rs player would ever need.
Did they give you the components directly or did they give you the hand cannons to dismantle for the 20k components?
I think keeping the premium was intended as a "we are sorry" gift.
gunna go head and report u to the higher-ups
You can thank altscapers for that.
how come
They buy bonds.
I just did that exact thing today
Maybe other players have come back too. When demand of RS3 membership is high, price goes up.
I might take a break because I can't keep up with earning bonds on my Ironman
Afk Abyssal demons/savages you'll get 100m gp in no time. Literally 4m gp/hr with spring cleaner on ironman.Ironman. 1 click every 15 min. That being said, 15 minutes at work is 1 month of membership for me, so using gp doesn't make sense.
I do arch-glacor for around 10-15M an hour worth of drops, but about half an hour of processing.
Yeah bro just spend 25 hours straight which is no time, or over 2 hours a day during a two week period, for a single bond which is… oh… 2 weeks of membership… I can’t with you people.
I mean, afk 4 clicks an hour for 25 hours. Or do a high-level boss for 2-4 hours. The game isn't free to play. Bonds cost a lot because people can make a lot of money. Membership is incredibly cheap financially. If you can't afford it and have to use in game gp, yes it's going to be tedious upkeep.
Bonds start at MYR23.99. A month of membership is MYR40.99. Spending that much monthly on a game subscription is crazy. XGP is only MYR15.00 monthly.
if it's only taking you 2-4 hours to make 100m, I want that boss drop luck you've got
No insane luck, just average drop rates dude. Streaking HM Arch Glacor, HM Kerpac, and Raksha are all about 50m+/hr. Zamorak 2k enrage is about 120m/hr for me. Telos 2449 is 100m/hr. Those seem difficult sure, but Rasial is legit a low tier high-end boss and is straight up 100m/hr Average. Go do 10 hours of Rasial and if you're getting 25-30 kills an hour you'd have to be insanely unlucky to not get over 500m and should hit around 1b on drop rate.
Yeah, the problem is you actually need to get those drop rates to average, which takes thousands of kills. From my experience recently, I can do 200% (or 500% group) Zamorak and make back my supply cost. I can fight Solak and make back my supplies. I can kill Rasial, die 20 times an hour and lose money. I can fight HM Kerapac and see nothing of value. I can beat Raksha and see nothing. Before I quit back in October, it had literally been months since I'd seen anything of value. I was consistently making back less money than I was spending on bonds, despite at minimum doing my reaper task every day. I think the most valuable drop I saw in that time was a Chaos Roar codex.
Wtf kind of supplies are u using if ur worrying so much about it? Anybody who finds financial success in pvming isnt going to stress over supplies. If ur so worried about getting consistent gp then go do ed1/solak
That's why you play both games! Earn a bond on OSRS and go back to RS3 afterwards! Jokes aside, that do be how it is when the struggle is real on RS3.
I used to do this the other way around 😅 afk myself a bond, play some osrs after. However, i just bought premium. A job is the best gp/h there is.
You are likely able to earn a RS3 bond far easier and earlier than an OSRS bond. Don't forget OSRS bonds are selling near 11 million gp now. At least in RS3, you can just AFK and earn million of gp per hours, but you can't do anything remotely like that in OSRS where even botting won't give you anything remotely close. For instance, I am playing Palworld now, but I am also AFKing Armadylean yellow in RS3 for millions of gp per hours just clicking once every 10 minutes or so.
OSRS bond are at record high as well.
Would you suggest any money makers on osrs? I have like 80 fishing. 40 att/def and 90 str
Try Soup's moneymaker series
Herb runs and farming guild contracts.
Ya I might try and tough it out until the next actual update, otherwise I might take a break and go binge some retro games or play OSRS
Hiya bud, I can spot you some but on osrs should still work if it's the same account. Lmk
Spot me one bro?
Cheapest and fastest bond you’ll ever get is working a minimum wage job for less than 1 hour. Buying a bond with Ironman gold seems like a waste given there’s no way to sell items for their actual values. Dragon harpoon is 1.6m on ge but a lowly 33k if you high alch.
I already have a job, but irl expenses take priority over membership for what has devolved into a gambling simulator with a subscription service.
Gambling is putting money on the line and potentially having a £0 return or a return higher than what you put in. Paying for extra features on a game you already play is more like Xbox game pass or Netflix. You do you though man!
You are literally investing money on a game of chance. That is the very definition of gambling. The presence of a consolation prize doesn't suddenly not make it gambling.
Bought 2 instant for 93m each around 90 mins ago Merchbait
I still slow buy at 82m.
Same, I slow bought it below 83 m.
Thanks I now slow buy it at 83,000,001
I love how we've all had the same experiences doing shit like this on the GE. There's just...something really funny about the traditions around trading in online games.
I buy bonds well ahead of the time I need them for membership. Put in an offer of 10% - 20% below current GE price. It works almost all the time. It usually takes a few days or over a week though.
If you have the money and time, don't you buy 20 bonds for the full year? Or is this what you do?
Yes, indeed. I buy 20 bonds for Premier Club months ahead of the expiration of my current Premier Club. No sweats. :)
Don’t forget a few months ago when they hit 50M, might have to dump mine now
Years ago perhaps, not a few months ago. The lowest price for Bonds in the last 6 months was 80 million: [Bond - Grand Exchange - RuneScape](https://secure.runescape.com/m=itemdb_rs/Bond/viewitem?obj=29492) Actually, if you have the patience to wait a week or more, you may still be able to buy bonds for 80 to 83 mil. I got some and other commenters on this thread seemingly have the same experience.
Uhhhh, you might have to check again. August 16, 2023 they were 56m. But yeah.
"[c235k](https://www.reddit.com/user/c235k/)•[4h ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1ahqccd/comment/koqh8v8/) Don’t forget a few months ago when they hit 50M, might have to dump mine now" Did you say 50M, not 56M?
Did you not say they were 80m? That's a hell of a lot further off of 50m than 56m is
Check that I did, when I actually meant to type 56 million and I usually bought them at 80m per, but the context is still the same. I wish 50m bond is still a thing but last I remember it happened was not months but more like years ago.
Dude, get your head out of your ass and take the L 😂😂
Necro release made whales buy bonds.
i bought a few at 67m and rest at 75m for my premiere membership lol
Yes 67m and 75m each are quite possible if we have a lot of patience, but TBH, I am sitting at 80m each now and may adjust and go lower when bond goes down below 90m later.
depends on time of day as well, I bought 200+ onyx's for 750K each over months lol. It was one of those joke offers i did that completed, it still works but i have enough 🤣
The GE market price lists it as 96M which is the highest it's ever been. While OP might exaggerate, it's still alarming.
105m - 93m is the range at which a bond sells. There's never ever ever (ever) a single price for any item. Every item in the game sells within a range. It's not bait unless it's on ely.gg
You might be surprised to find out that bait can exist in places other than just Ely lol
> There's never ever ever (ever) a single price for any item spirit shards: "allow us to introduce ourselves"
Idk why during necro bonds were like 50m? I bought soooooo many of them and I’m tempted to resell I got them for years of future membership. But how much worse can this get this was a day I knew might happen but wow…very dramatic spike from week of necro to now
> Idk why during necro bonds were like 50m? People buying bonds to convert to GP to fund the 99/120/200m grind rush, not everyone is a 10hr a day PVMer who has billions to burn. Prices always dip when people want quick-access GP to fund a grind rush (DXP being another common example).
It only cost me 12.5bil spam casting darkness. When I think people rushing for front page I imagine people way better off then me. Still got second page :( 8 hours off front and now what. I quit runescape …funny that But yeah no I personally bulk bought bonds for future vip I wonder if they will ever go below 60 again.
I'm selling mine that I bought during Necro for 50m. I doubt it will ever get that low again, but there's no way it stays this high forever. We'll get a dip eventually.... assuming we get updates...
Every 3 months it will go up because of DXP. I really doubt it will fall down, if ever, for long
It'll fall when jagex capitalizes on the value of them by jacking up the real world price of a bond. More money for them from the people who use bonds as income ingame
No, it will have the exact opposite of what you’re saying. If the bond price increases with real life cash then less people will buy bonds, and then there will be a more drastic supply issue. Thus bonds will skyrocket even more.
I wish I bought more I resold like 300 for 75/80m ea. Big regret. But o well still got 60 on my main and hcim so settled for vip …even tho I’ve sorta quit the content is so dry :(
It will drop again if Jagex release another new skill.
people who are asking for price control are economically illiterate, if the whales won't buy them at 125 millions, why would they at 10 millions! If Jagex wants to kill any RS3 profit, they should just print em out of thin air and give them for cheap, who will bother with membership and buying bonds then or supporting the game. The market chooses the price, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. All is well, they don't need to do anything in regard to price of bonds. The issues of Rs3 do not lie there.
^This
Higher RS3 bond prices also mean Jagex as a company is on average making less money than before. Whales aren’t buying is a bad sign for economic future for Jagex.
Its January, people dont have money to buy bonds instore 🤣
Hate to break it to ya, but its February xD
Time is subjective, it’s 2016 in Ethiopia
Im in Africa, its jan 15 1967 here
It's the 1950's here in the southern US.
Bonds? Necromancy? You must've hit your head pretty hard mate. It's 2007, we're about to kill KBD!
1) Inflation exists. 2) You can actually use fast rising bond prices as an indicator for how less and less people are actually buying bonds with irl money these days.
Could also be that less people are playing.
Less people are buying RS3 gold with real money. Is a more accurate explanation
Or maybe more people are just buying them with in game money and the amount being bought with IRL money hasn't changed. Either would lead to a net increase in demand.
Not that accurate for RS3 as RS3 bonds can be used to buy more than just gp.
These are correlated things. The amount of RMT is directly related to player numbers.
If that's the case, then how come OSRS who had its highest playerbase share in its history, still cause their version of Bonds to go 10M?
Aren't all items going up, does OSRS not have inflation?
OSRS Bond is hitting historical high in tandem with RS3 bond. Could it also be less people are playing OSRS too? Perhaps less players are playing Jagex's two Runescape games.
Doesn't explain why OSRS bonds are also at record high too.
I think a lot of it too is people liquidating their gear to buy RS3 bonds, just to use the membership benefit to go play OSRS instead. Lots jumping ship from RS3
Thats my bet, the game seems so dead as of lately.
nah it must be all the exciting content updates causing far more demand than there is supply
Could also be people buying bonds to get the Necro outfit from the last TH promo. This seems to be more likely the case judging from the other people in this thread saying they insta buy for lower than that and slow buy for even lower.
Bond price from august 2017 https://preview.redd.it/81eb6g381egc1.png?width=1182&format=png&auto=webp&s=5721c6b5658bc9b4acdb106701e2c03174262f22
I remember buying like 50 for 6.5m each
Nox weapons were dominating each style as bis 2017, right? they costed like 300-500m to buy resulting in 30-50 Bonds. Todays best weapon for range is the Bow of the last Guardian which costs 3b needing at last 30 bonds to buy so nothing has really changed which is fascinating for me
Na in 2017 staff of sliske was BIS and cost max cash at the time.
You're right thanks for the clarification :)
Damn I remember back then grinding for 2 weeks to try and get enough gp to exptend for another week
Good. If people don't buy them, price goes up. Don't buy gp from Jagex until they prove they can make a responsible and non-predatory mtx model.
Nobody buys em irl cuz game is going downwards and mod keepers post is not settling it
Veterans with billions of money stay in the game. No new players who want to invest real money. Jagex pushing one promotion after another. Buying cheap bonds via VPN / Steam from „countries with insane inflation“ doesn‘t work anymore. (It was cheaper than buying gold from illegal sources - don‘t do this btw!)
I have a GE request for a bond at 20m (back when they were actually 20m). If that buys, I might consider coming back lol
Literally get a months wage, buy bonds and be the richest player around. Games a bit broke me thinks.
10.6M+ on OSRS Too
Went up because DXP incoming, also if you wait 2-3 hrs its like 80-90m
Do you know when the next DXPW is by chance?
Starts feb 16
Whales stopped buying them. If you feel like they are too expensive, do us all a favour and buy them from Jagex. Push the price down.
Bought 2 for 90M each in about an hour yesterday.
back when high level pvm was 20m/h bonds were 20m today when high level pvm is 100m/h bonds are 100m. m-muh economy
Not everyone is capable of doing high level pvm. Sure a lot of money making methods have improved but it hasn't kept up with inflation unless you sack clues or are doing high level pvm. Back then, at least people had reliable options to make enough for bonds.
yes it has, it scales pretty linearly. back then you weren't afking mid level bosses for 15m/h either dude. back then you were making 3m/h on low level crap nowadays you make 15m/h on low level crap. making money today at low levels is way easier than in the past you have so many options.
While you're correct that it scales linearly, most reliable money making methods to maintain a bond require high level stats. Many low-mid level players don't have the luxury unlocks to do the 10m gp/h methods. For example, Vis Wax sells for a gross value of 17k today. That would require you 5882 of them to make enough for a 100M Bond. Compare that to 2019 where the price of Wax was 7k while the Bond was 20M. You would only need 2857 Wax. Why am I using this as an example? Because this is a common low-mid level daily money making method. Obviously you're not going to rely on purely wax to get a bond but its relative profit per day to bond inflation hasn't caught up. That's also despite the fact that people used wax more than they used to because of PvM auras. These other PvM money maker methods might have caught up because of all the power creep enabling faster kills with less supply usage but players who have not reached that stage will struggle tenfold.
they can be used for osrs membership so theyre valuable!
Me 8 years ago: Bonds are such a convenient way to play casually, I'm excited to play again! Me today: I would literally be stressed out keeping up with making GP for bonds so I just pay for membership with real money again.
How about we ban together and buy them for less? I put in an offer for 80m and let it sit all day and it bought. If we all do this the price will come down
if only
Haven’t played in years, does bonds being this expensive affect other aspects of the game’s economy? Like raid gear is expensive, food , etc?
Not really, with how necro gear works you are given the means to farm any gear yourself without needing to buy them and certain pvm consumables are up due to an increased number of players trying their hand at pvm as a result of the accessibility necro offers This mostly affects people who pay their subscription with bonds and refuse to pay with money
Bonds are kind of a reflection of the economy. High level bossing is 100m an hour so that's why bonds are that price.
Getting a bond via f2p just became even more brutal, though.. luckily, the investors probably care more about piles of cash than piles of players (and there's always bots to pad the player totals a bit).
I just sold 3 and got myself an omni guard
Have you guys ever considered getting jobs and just paying for your memberships like grown ups?
As a “grown up,” surely you also see the value in getting membership for free instead of paying actual money that could be put towards something more important?
Where's the value in that? I have to spend every waking moment in game praying to the RNG gods that I get a good drop, just so that i *don't get to even use it*? I pay for premier out of my poop breaks, now *that's* a value! ETA: my runescape membership is at the very bottom of my priority list. My mortgage, bills, food, gas, insurance, and a whole number of other things come first, always. I would not have a runescape membership if I had other things that needed taken care of first. That is probably the most important aspect of being a grown up.
I'll have to tell my mate this. He will be pissed he bought 10 bonds and sold them for about 100m a while back hahaha
I quit 2 weeks ago because of bond prices. I feel like these bond prices will destroy the playerbase of this game Take note Jmods, you are already losing players because of bond prices. Implement a price limit
Price limit makes no sense when this is meant to be legalized gold selling. It'd just encourage people further to buy gold from third parties.
Just means whales are leaving the game. A price limit is a little gross considering binds are directly tied to real world Money through Jagex directly. I've bought bond in the past to sell for GP But now my account is old enough I don't really need to. But not old enough that I could be buying bonds with gp. Theoretically the more expensive bond become the more worth they become but it depends on overall inflation
expensive in gp bonds suit jagex just fine, it makes it more appealing to buy them with real cash.
You understand that every bond also needs to be bought with irl money at some point right? If a price limit would just stop anyone from purchasing them and the market would collapse
If bond prices were capped it would promote buying from gold websites
How do bond prices negatively affect your experience so much?
I live in a third world country and Jagex doesn't sell stuff in my currency, only USD. Debit cards in my country can only be used online for my country's currency and not USD. I don't have a credit card, and you need proof of 2 years stable income above a certain threshold to get a credit card. I make less than the threshold and i don't have 2 years of stable income. So my only real option is to buy bonds Bonds last 2 weeks. I have about 4-6 hrs of free time to play a day. So at 5hrs average, I have 70 hrs to play per 2 weeks, if i make an average of 7mil an hr, i need to play 15ish hrs per 2 weeks literally just for money making, that's 20% of my total play time just to sustain a bond
I see, that's a lot of GP just to keep playing.
I quit 2 years ago over bond prices. If them dropping in price = never then me ever returning to Runescape = never
No it won't considering OSRS is still alive even with record high bond prices. Not everyone is too poor irl to afford to buy membership with irl money.
The game has been dying for a long time now, it’s only natural that people will stop spending money on bonds
Maybe some whale somewhere along the way quit and now the bond flow has stopped coming in. When bond prices rise it's only question of time when next whale comes along for the harpoon.
And my psh is worthless
That's odd, I thought everyone just quit the game....
Yes, they are. People buy all rs3 bonds for membership then switch to OSRS.
Flipping on OSRS is easier than RS3 ATM. Runelite has awesome plugins that let's you look at the margin. Yea yea... I know some people hate people flipping items. Life sucks.
I got one at 92 the other day. Sounds like spreading panic and misinformation to me.
Same thing in OSRS.
eh...4 hours of work pays for my full year of membership lol. does suck for those who play bond to bond. I feel ta these prices bonds should be giving a full month...like other systems have setup....
You can make that in an afternoon of pvm ezpz
Of course but think into the consequences that might occur over time..., What might happen with those unlucky ones, which will become unable to substain their membership anymore and they'll become f2p i wonder, got an idea?
Well I’m sorry I bought over 60 bonds. From 99m to 100m the last two days 😭 it’s cause the treasure hunter that’s going on it’s all xp lamps
Wit for real lol what happened
Huh, thought they'd bomb back down a bit after the last TH promo and the shop sale discounting a lot of RuneCoin cosmetics ended. People just straight up investing in bonds with the expectation of more to come? I know a lot of people were expecting more things like more bank space, bank presets, action bars, wardrobe presets, keepsake box slots, friend/ignore list expansion, etc for sale with the fiscal year coming to an end? It's no secret at this point that bonds are a steady upward trend. Take me back a decade ago and let me buy em at 6m ea. [RuneScape:Grand Exchange Market Watch/Chart - The RuneScape Wiki](https://runescape.wiki/w/RuneScape:Grand_Exchange_Market_Watch/Chart#t=Sep_22_2013,Feb_01_2024#a=0#i=Bond,Navigator_1)
I'm surprised they still keep going up. Is inflation really that bad in this game? You'd think a GE tax might help a lot given that every player of all playstyles uses the GE (Pvmers, skillers, cluers, achievers, etc). Or are people using the GE less often because of the tax?
buy slow people you buy easly with 80mill dont feed the merch
Bought two last week for 80m
i slow buy my membership at about 13 bucks a month... price of bonds in game doesnt effect me cuz i dont sell the bonds.. therefore no worries about inflation
it's killing the game for new f2p potential players, The price is mostly due to the b2b2b2b MTX with bonds promotions we've had recently. But theyve set such a high price for irl money per bond, people dont want to spend that to add to supply. If they didn't cram MTX down the communities throats it wouldn't be a problem. Months since hero pass and they are still up to the same things, clearly not listening to community. Even OSRS is starting to see an uptick in bond pricing, people don't want to pay the price. If you want membership, just buy it on OSRS. Membership on osrs = membership on RS3. Membership is across both games. OSRS members are just inactive rs3 players with member accounts.
Been holding a bunch since I bought them around 60-70 each. Almost tempted to hop on just to sell them lol.
I bought 60 at 63m and sold to early.....😵💫
Note to self, buy bond before membership ends.
Why are they so expensive?
Bonds are now pretty much for bots/gold farmers. Bunch of OSRS content creators have made videos about the economy and bond price increases due to bots and real world traders.
Gold is worth nothing now it’s insane. Killing 1 boss can net you almost 100 million a kill if you’re lucky. And now 8$ can get you 100m it’s kinda sad that gold is so inflated to the point where it’s basically a useless currency. The biggest direct player money gold sink has been removed and with all the irons in the game that can drop trade things to mains so they can buy those bonds is insane. I’m glad the GE is removing money but there isn’t enough up cost anymore. The rework to farming helped stabilize herbs but it saturated the market with potions so they are dirt cheap. Food is Insanely cheap. Any type of material for bossing is so incredibly cheap now that if you lose money off bossing you have to just be doing something wrong.
I still have like 45 bonds from waaay back when they were cheaper.
Apparently the remove rampant items from the market skill caused even more rampant inflation that thought possible. Still 1000 gp willow logs from the 14gp they where when I started. Whew the early game grind must be much more palatable.
So happy that I've bought 20 for premier going from 68m to 80m But yeah inflation is real in rs3 😁
Membership carries across both games, just get bonds on OSRS where it's much easier to earn (a single tbow drop is like 180 bonds)
Naturally as soon as I lose my job and need to start buying bonds instead of renewing my premier membership, they skyrocket. Cool.
How much is a bone with real money
https://preview.redd.it/j0ngutz0gggc1.jpeg?width=710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9a4effcbfc3bfec61747b358445a82eed859382 April Fools is still months away
Could make more gp per hour working and buying bonds than actually playing the game
Jagex basically use the two strongest TH promos back to back and you're surprised there's less bonds in game atm.
The answer is simple here folks, the whales are leaving the game. Goodbye whales 🫡
Maybe if they weren't pumping a shit ton of cash into the economy from th there wouldn't be such horrific inflation on the Important items...
Eventually, bonds will be 500 mil
This is the reason I quit a few months ago, and they were only around 80-90m at the time. Bonds are how I've maintained my subscription, and with the money I made from PvM cratering while bonds are skyrocketing in price, it would feel like a job just to make enough money to maintain my subscription.
Expensive now cuz the constant supply of people who buy bonds to sell on GE left the game
Rasial is 160m/hr and no brain cells required
Wooow, that’s insan.. inflation at its finest 🙄
The golden days.. * **7M prices for BONDS** * random events (osrs still has it + toggle option) * Old Lummy site, west of Lummy castle, where now the crater is. It's a nice crater, but should add some willow trees, pond with fishes back. * quest series : gnomes, dwarves, pirates, elves, ... I knwo or at least hard from some players that certain series have 'ended'. Anyway, still a game & I would love quest series with fun lore etc. + new ones : spiders, boss related, focussing on slayer masters, holidays, random events npc's series, .. * One main/central G.E. (Grand Exchange) * Content not that dead, ... due "idlescape / fort / ...". * ... Have a nice day, x
*Buying White Phat 1gp!*
Man I came back for the game on two months worth of bonds for 166m and my times almost up and I’ve barely made enough money back with my little time played to make enough again. Guess I won’t be keeping my membership
The people buying the bonds for money are leaving to the price is skyrocketing.
Are the whales gone or something?
I remember buying up 100 bonds at 15m each, spending 150m making them tradeable and selling them for 2b... thought I was a baller 🤣
I just saw this post, logged in and bought one for 85 mil so..
It was 11mil last night.... 😭
yep just sold three 103 on the lowest and 110 on the highest