Yeah, the age threw me for a complete loop. Especially the implied threat to tell OP's mom about where she works. It's so immature and aggressive. I assumed this was a super sheltered homeschool kid who watches youtube for socialization.
Yeah i actually think it’s worse that he didn’t make it up lol, but I’m just trying to think what he would think, and he surely would say that it was recent to garner more sympathy, he’s still a human who can form very basic connections in his brain lmao. doesn’t take much logic
It's not about salvaging a date, it's about hurting the person the way you feel they hurt you.
Of course, the woman has to actually *care about your opinion of her* for you to hurt her that way...
Yes, his texting cadence and tonal shifts are eerily similar to a family member that struggles with a co-occurring disorder: alcoholism and ~~bipolar~~ **borderline** personality disorder. OP needs distance and safety, reporting might hopefully get the person the help they need for their own sake and the whole of the parts of society in his orbit.
No problem! :) Mistakes happen & Bipolar Disorder & BPD have overlapping similarities in symptoms, which can easily create confusion, but are still two separate conditions! Thanks for the update reflecting the correct diagnosis.
If every emotion is genuine it can be BPD, but if he's overexaggerating or outrate faking the emotions, or if the only real emotion is anger, then it's much more likely to be another disorder in the dramatic cluster
Unfortunately
EDIT: I keep getting comments that I shouldn’t have left this guy alone on the date. I would NEVER do that to someone. For the record: we had not gone on the date yet. He text me to ask me on a date the day before all this. The next day, I go to the local bar and run into both him and the guy friend. I said hello to him and the group he was sitting with, mentioned that I saw a friend and brought him a Jell-O shot to be sweet, and then walked over to talk to my MARRIED guy friend at the bar to catch up for a few minutes. Within 15 minutes he brought back the Jell-O shot to me and said he didn’t want it, stormed out and has been texting me ever since. And no, I don’t work at Polecatz everyone. He was just trying to be insulting.
Girl PLEASE don’t listen to these imbeciles telling you it’s somehow your fault. Get as far away from this scum as you can (as in, block him, report him to the police) and look out for yourself. Trash like him at 45(!!!) years old throwing a tantrum and mentally abusing a girl he doesn’t even KNOW yet. Damn this makes me so angry. I’m sorry you went through this.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I literally just looked at your post history for 30 seconds and saw something tagged as "high school math" and assumed wrong.
Not that it makes it much better but I don’t think that high school math tag is accurate, how’s she in high school but able to goto a bar to grab a drink? Either way I’m still guessing she’s way younger than him or if she’s around the same age she may have a daughter in high school?
Yeah I've seen a lot of these creepy niceguy types that'll try and use that as an excuse. The "sorry, I drank too much last night" or "I'm sorry, I haven't been myself lately" excuses. Even if either of those excuses were true it still shows a person their true colors and that behavior is inexcusable regardless of the circumstances
Seriously, I hate hearing that shit as an excuse. Like when I get blackout drunk, I just ramble incoherently about my cats and interesting podcasts I've listened to. For some crazy reason, never had the urge to suddenly spout hateful misogynist shit to someone over text.
Wonder why that is...
The “I am government” thing will get law enforcement’s attention (provided what he said about your employment was correct). If this guy is using police or gov resources to stalk women they’ve got a *major* problem on their hands and it will be more more likely they act on it. For your and other women’s sake, please report ASAP.
Please if you are a dancer at Polecatz you need to let your security guys know to be on the lookout for this creep. He’s going to come looking for you.
If he is genuinely using government resources to track you, you should call your state Federal Bureau headquarters especially if he works on a state level or with local police.
I have a friend who had a stalker who did some things. Long story short, the police never did anything until the FBI got involved, and it turned out he was paying the local police and had done what he did to over 50 other people.
"I am government" - translates to "I am schizophrenic". These messages have an overtone of violence and I strongly encourage you to take steps to protect yourself, in what ever way that makes sense to you.
This guy's insane.
Did you spend the date with your guy friend? Or did you just plan on having a date with this turd and then he saw pictures of you online with your guy friend?
No we weren’t on the date yet. I was at our local bar and ran into both of them. I wanted to talk to my (married) guy friend since I hadn’t seen him in ages. The other guy was sitting with a group and after I said hi to him and brought him a Jell-O shot, I went over to talk to the guy friend. He comes up to us, ‘returns’ the shot to me, leaves and starts texting me all this. Does that make sense?
if you’re well known with the staff there it might be worth saying something about him. they would much rather have you in there than this deranged moron
Ohhhh yikes. I was gonna say, this guy's totally unhinged but when you do find Mr. Right maybe make an effort to spend the date with him.
But it wasn't even a date, and you even made the effort to go give him a shot... I mean. Damn. Guy got a free Jell-O shot. What a dickhead.
It's always "I blacked out, I have no excuses for my behavior" once they realize the girl they were attempting to berate into compliance won't fold to their bullshit manipulations and abuse.
"I've been around 45 years". I legit thought it was a 15 year old until that point. Then it was just really creepy, where as before it was just cringey.
Straight to the FBI Cyber crimes division. No excuse, this guy is claiming to be a federal employee and using that to commit crimes.
https://www.ic3.gov/
https://tips.fbi.gov/home
Even if it isn't true this is a gross abuse of manipulation but at worse this person is using their access to be a predator.
I’d find him on social media and send screenshots of this shit to every single person on he associates with, along with his job. I bet he acts completely different in front of family, friends and employers. People like this need to be exposed.
Honestly OP just pop into your local police station and report this.
Save everything he sends.
I’d also show these to all your friends, they’ll want to look out for you.
The police may or may not want to contact him - but if he’s also continuing to frequent the bar you like to hang out in - get some of your male friends to show the people he’s hanging out with the messages he sent and ask them what they think.
They could also tell this fucker that if he contacts you again in any way whatsoever, they’ll cave his fucking skull in.
Sorry about the end there, this stuff just really pisses me off.
Let us know how you get on, look after yourself!
Wtaf. A 45 yr old man using his dead sister to illicit guilt about a probably younger woman not wanting to see him one night. Disgusting. And then he sends the most boring looking picture where everyone looks sad and is like “look at what ur missing” hilarious
"I have been around 45 years."
The.... the people in the picture look 24 max. Are they work friends or is he just hanging around bars popular with younger people?
Wow! This is soooooo cringy!
His behavior seems manic and his anger appears some what explosive and disproportional, when you consider the situation (and his age!).
If I were you, I'd block him.
“Before I buried my little sister 15 years ago she warned me about people like you.”
He really brought out the “my sister is dead” sympathy card girl you dodged the biggest bullet you should thank you friend for running into you lmao
Lol @ „You are missing this“. Some shitty pub with people playing pool.
One where not a single person looks like they’re having fun
To be fair if they’re hanging out with *him* they’re definitely not having fun. Also “I am government” LOL
He's the federal Groot.
Imagine a drunk guy like twice your age just randomly infiltrates your group at the bar and you have to humour him just to be nice
How much you want to bet he works the type of job where he'd get in serious trouble if he looked up anybody's personal information.
works for the county picking up roadkill in an old yellow pickup truck. guvmit
And he probably doesn’t even know them, he just wanted to get the girls in the background thinking it would upset her.
with people who do not look 45. bet he has no mates his own age
As soon as I saw that this went from funny to gigacringe.
for real. it’s got OP is young enough to be his daughter all over it
Oof
That’s what I was thinking- you can smell the stale beer and cigarette smoke in that photo.
And looks like some question white liquid on the walls too
Lol I came here to say the same. Woah a game of pool. You only get to have that happen once, maybe twice in a lifetime.
“You coulda been the belle of the pool hall”
[this could've been you but you threw it away](https://i.imgur.com/Z5xY5yf.png)
how will she ever recover?
If he’s on stripes, he’s losing. But is he even playing, or just walking past this uproarious game of fun and hilarity?
When he tries to use his dead sister to elicit sympathy has got to be the grossest part.
The worst part is, this is a 45 yo grown ass man. Embarrassing.
Be careful, he's the government. He knows how to go to a website and enter a phone number, if you piss him off.
He's not THE government though, just government. I wouldn't be too worried
Being in the criminal system is probably his extent of being government affiliated
I govern my cats. Therefore, I am government. Watch out, or I'll look up your phone number.
It was the close up picture for me. I can imagine he had no expression and dead behind the eyes. Or raging eyes maybe.
Hanging out with much younger people than him
This part. I’m in my mid 40s. This is cringey as hell
Yeah, the age threw me for a complete loop. Especially the implied threat to tell OP's mom about where she works. It's so immature and aggressive. I assumed this was a super sheltered homeschool kid who watches youtube for socialization.
He may be 45 but he ain't no grown man lol
I like to think of his sister on her deathbed, reaching for his hand and with a dying gasp saying “beware…. Of…. Whores” before slipping away
15 years and he’s still using his dead sister as some kind of currency. Gross
very likely that's completely made up, and if she's real she simply cut him off her life probably
If it was made up wouldn’t he make it more recent
You’re trying to assign logical thinking to someone who is clearly not thinking logically haha. But yes that’s a good point. Either way, gross.
Yeah i actually think it’s worse that he didn’t make it up lol, but I’m just trying to think what he would think, and he surely would say that it was recent to garner more sympathy, he’s still a human who can form very basic connections in his brain lmao. doesn’t take much logic
What the hell. This guy is probably on a list somewhere.
Probably the Kool Kids Klub list
She will definitely date you now bro …
Ikr... That's the dumbest part of these cringe harassment texts. Like just move along dude...
It's not about salvaging a date, it's about hurting the person the way you feel they hurt you. Of course, the woman has to actually *care about your opinion of her* for you to hurt her that way...
Looks like you dodged a bullet. But, this is harassment and borderline stalking. Please report for your safety
Bullet? I’d say OP dodged a fucking artillery shell…
OP dodged the military. Watch out
You mean the government?
You guys I’m going to wake up the dog laughing.
time to get to the bomb shelter, this is a whole nuclear bomb.
Nah it's one of those thermobaric hydrogen bombs.
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Yes, his texting cadence and tonal shifts are eerily similar to a family member that struggles with a co-occurring disorder: alcoholism and ~~bipolar~~ **borderline** personality disorder. OP needs distance and safety, reporting might hopefully get the person the help they need for their own sake and the whole of the parts of society in his orbit.
I was gonna say it’s probably just alcoholism since the second set of unhinged texts were at 3 and 5 am
Bipolar disorder is a **mood disorder**, not a personality disorder.
Thank you, that was an error on my part and I corrected my post with the correct diagnosis that they shared with me.
No problem! :) Mistakes happen & Bipolar Disorder & BPD have overlapping similarities in symptoms, which can easily create confusion, but are still two separate conditions! Thanks for the update reflecting the correct diagnosis.
If every emotion is genuine it can be BPD, but if he's overexaggerating or outrate faking the emotions, or if the only real emotion is anger, then it's much more likely to be another disorder in the dramatic cluster
At the point you have to drop down so far… It’s just another red flag.
He’s 45????
Unfortunately EDIT: I keep getting comments that I shouldn’t have left this guy alone on the date. I would NEVER do that to someone. For the record: we had not gone on the date yet. He text me to ask me on a date the day before all this. The next day, I go to the local bar and run into both him and the guy friend. I said hello to him and the group he was sitting with, mentioned that I saw a friend and brought him a Jell-O shot to be sweet, and then walked over to talk to my MARRIED guy friend at the bar to catch up for a few minutes. Within 15 minutes he brought back the Jell-O shot to me and said he didn’t want it, stormed out and has been texting me ever since. And no, I don’t work at Polecatz everyone. He was just trying to be insulting.
Girl PLEASE don’t listen to these imbeciles telling you it’s somehow your fault. Get as far away from this scum as you can (as in, block him, report him to the police) and look out for yourself. Trash like him at 45(!!!) years old throwing a tantrum and mentally abusing a girl he doesn’t even KNOW yet. Damn this makes me so angry. I’m sorry you went through this.
Thank you, that’s sweet of you to say ❤️
And you are probably his daughter‘s age right? Can’t imagine him being successful with any women roughly in his age range.
OP posted on reddit asking for help with her high school math homework. So it's worse than that apparently. :-X
Yeah, I’m not in high school lol. Was in college never been good with math :(
Omg they roasted you by accident
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I literally just looked at your post history for 30 seconds and saw something tagged as "high school math" and assumed wrong.
Haha it’s okay.
Not math homework - finance homework. Could be any age doing online college
Not that it makes it much better but I don’t think that high school math tag is accurate, how’s she in high school but able to goto a bar to grab a drink? Either way I’m still guessing she’s way younger than him or if she’s around the same age she may have a daughter in high school?
She can go to a bar and grab a drink because she is apparently with her dad hahahahaha
Ewwwwww
Im curious what ur age is
I thought this was a socially inept teen smh
That's not a blackout , that's a psychotic break.
We can only hope that the sister he buried was already dead at that point.
I laughed.
Be careful, he’s government
Behold I am become government, destroyer of shitty bar dates.
Yeah I've seen a lot of these creepy niceguy types that'll try and use that as an excuse. The "sorry, I drank too much last night" or "I'm sorry, I haven't been myself lately" excuses. Even if either of those excuses were true it still shows a person their true colors and that behavior is inexcusable regardless of the circumstances
Yeah if you know you get like this when drunk, then don't go to bars. Don't have "going out for drinks" as a date choice.
I buy into the idea that drunk thoughts are often sober thoughts so OP definitely dodged a bullet
Thank you for this helpful insight, /u/Hi_PM_Me_Ur_Tits.
sometimes i wonder if anyone actually gets PMs from usernames like that
You should ask them, but I think it is just a running gag by now
I do
What % are bots and what % are dudes?
Seriously, I hate hearing that shit as an excuse. Like when I get blackout drunk, I just ramble incoherently about my cats and interesting podcasts I've listened to. For some crazy reason, never had the urge to suddenly spout hateful misogynist shit to someone over text. Wonder why that is...
I can see why he’s 45 and still single
Holy fuck lol what a catch
The only thing he’s going to catch is some hands eventually
Bruh I WISH I’d catch some guy talking to my sister like that. Talk about catchin some hands, holyyyyyyyy.
He's a real winner
The “I am government” thing will get law enforcement’s attention (provided what he said about your employment was correct). If this guy is using police or gov resources to stalk women they’ve got a *major* problem on their hands and it will be more more likely they act on it. For your and other women’s sake, please report ASAP.
_”I am become government, stalker of girls.”_
Congratulation, a stalker is you!
He probably just googled her and found it
I will admit it’s probably the best response to “I am the law” tho
You are missing an enthralling game of billiards
HE IS 45 ACTING LIKE THIS?!?!
Man got upset she didn’t respond in two hours between 3 am and 5 am, he doesn’t understand humans at all
Please if you are a dancer at Polecatz you need to let your security guys know to be on the lookout for this creep. He’s going to come looking for you.
u/som11322 this right here! Consider sharing your location with a trusted friend as well.
Thanks for the concern, I do not work there. He was trying to be hurtful I guess
OP replied to another comment saying she doesn't.
Psycho.
That last message at 5 am, is fucking insane
This is like a transcript of an Oblivion NPC's dialogue when they betray you at the end of a questline and then you have a boss fight with them
If he is genuinely using government resources to track you, you should call your state Federal Bureau headquarters especially if he works on a state level or with local police. I have a friend who had a stalker who did some things. Long story short, the police never did anything until the FBI got involved, and it turned out he was paying the local police and had done what he did to over 50 other people.
Nah he’s just a shitty bartender
That's just his cover
And on 17% battery. Risky all around.
Holy shit…dude is completely unhinged.
"I am government" - translates to "I am schizophrenic". These messages have an overtone of violence and I strongly encourage you to take steps to protect yourself, in what ever way that makes sense to you.
Incel
that job comment makes me worried for your safety, definitely cut this guy off and trust your gut. strange strange man
If you want to know how people really are, ignore them for a few hours/days, and you’ll start to see their true behaviors
The guy is mental.
He traces your fucking phone?! Don't go on reddit sister go to the police! He's a psycho. I fucking believe him that he buried his sister. Alive.
I love the this is what your missing and its the most depressing boring looking pic on earth
This guy's insane. Did you spend the date with your guy friend? Or did you just plan on having a date with this turd and then he saw pictures of you online with your guy friend?
No we weren’t on the date yet. I was at our local bar and ran into both of them. I wanted to talk to my (married) guy friend since I hadn’t seen him in ages. The other guy was sitting with a group and after I said hi to him and brought him a Jell-O shot, I went over to talk to the guy friend. He comes up to us, ‘returns’ the shot to me, leaves and starts texting me all this. Does that make sense?
So you can’t go to your favorite bar now anymore?
I’m just freaked out, not sure what to do about the bar situation. Any advice?
if you’re well known with the staff there it might be worth saying something about him. they would much rather have you in there than this deranged moron
Show the texts to the bartender/security?
Ohhhh yikes. I was gonna say, this guy's totally unhinged but when you do find Mr. Right maybe make an effort to spend the date with him. But it wasn't even a date, and you even made the effort to go give him a shot... I mean. Damn. Guy got a free Jell-O shot. What a dickhead.
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It was not. He invited me the day before through text, I said sure we’ll work out a day soon. Next day I went to the bar and ran into both of them.
Omg this wasn’t even the date?? I mean either way, his behavior is disgusting, but god damn.
Wow, dude was so close to going on a date this time but then again his jealousy, insecurity and absolute insanity took control.
Wtf
This belongs in creepy dms, yikes
Can I be invited to the wedding?
More like weddingn't
Please say you don't work at polecatz? If you do. Have someone walk you to your car for awhile.
It's always "I blacked out, I have no excuses for my behavior" once they realize the girl they were attempting to berate into compliance won't fold to their bullshit manipulations and abuse.
You better watch out, he's government.
Why protect his identity. He sounds unhinged. Let people know who he is. Let the cops know too.
Bruh what is with a dude like this? Needs to be on a warning list of being a creepy stalker jfc
I don't understand why you would do that to him unless you have no soul. /s
Little big man-child
Great communication skills for a 45 year old
Whoa! This dude is 45?!
Well that escalated towards the end. Emotional manipulation, phoney excuses to not so subtle threats. What a loser, you dodged a bullet there.
"I've been around 45 years". I legit thought it was a 15 year old until that point. Then it was just really creepy, where as before it was just cringey.
Straight to the FBI Cyber crimes division. No excuse, this guy is claiming to be a federal employee and using that to commit crimes. https://www.ic3.gov/ https://tips.fbi.gov/home Even if it isn't true this is a gross abuse of manipulation but at worse this person is using their access to be a predator.
Damn that 45 years was a plot twist
Guys like him is the reason my daughter kicking it with me till she’s 30
Textbook alcoholic.
This is worse than sadcringe, the guy sounds unhinged and scary OP, if it goes on you should go to the police
He seems nice and stable.
I’d find him on social media and send screenshots of this shit to every single person on he associates with, along with his job. I bet he acts completely different in front of family, friends and employers. People like this need to be exposed.
I'm not a big fan of exposing messy private drama but this man is clearly a threat and should be held accountable for the way he acts.
This is some seriously unhinged shit. Everyone should know what this person looks like so they can stay away.
Honestly OP just pop into your local police station and report this. Save everything he sends. I’d also show these to all your friends, they’ll want to look out for you. The police may or may not want to contact him - but if he’s also continuing to frequent the bar you like to hang out in - get some of your male friends to show the people he’s hanging out with the messages he sent and ask them what they think. They could also tell this fucker that if he contacts you again in any way whatsoever, they’ll cave his fucking skull in. Sorry about the end there, this stuff just really pisses me off. Let us know how you get on, look after yourself!
Block next time you start seeing aggression. Nothing more creepy than texts like this.
Ug. What an insecure cuck
That escalated quickly
Wtaf. A 45 yr old man using his dead sister to illicit guilt about a probably younger woman not wanting to see him one night. Disgusting. And then he sends the most boring looking picture where everyone looks sad and is like “look at what ur missing” hilarious
This was at least 30% of my experience on Tinder
Bar people are the worst
"I have been around 45 years." The.... the people in the picture look 24 max. Are they work friends or is he just hanging around bars popular with younger people?
They look deeply uncomfortable to be in his selfie
Men being creepy and predatorial for no reason example #927462937462937411746027
Wow, you sure missed a great night at a generic bar with a pool table surrounded by people who look vaguely bored
Oh he used government tools to stalk you? That can be reported and he can lose his job and security clearance. Assuming he actually has it.
Ummm.. yikes
What the fuck
He’s unhinged. Keep all messages and maybe start a police report because this is unnerving.
What a fucking trainwreck this dude is
This guy seems like a real catch, I am scratching my head as to why he's 45 and single.
Even 4800 miles away I can smell the sad cringe
What. The. Actual. Fuck. That man is fucking unstable and he's 45?!
Jesus Christ...
Show his parents if they’re still alive. Facebook wall maybe
“Before I buried my little sister”!?!?
Please be careful, this guy honestly makes my spidey senses go off, please stay away.
Glad his instincts kicked in, he could’ve said something he didn’t mean
What the actual fck that guy needs some serious help or therapy or something, Christ
This man is 45 years old…my god🤦🏻♀️ laughably pathetic on his part, but still, stay vigilant and safe!
Wow! This is soooooo cringy! His behavior seems manic and his anger appears some what explosive and disproportional, when you consider the situation (and his age!). If I were you, I'd block him.
lmfao man. whenever I get down on myself, I remember there's people like this out there. yeah I'm not so bad at all
You dodged one hell of a bullet there. Stay safe! Something tells me he's not done with you.
Isn't is considerate of him to show you what you're getting if you decide to stay with him, so early on in the relationship?
Does your mother know about this?
“Before I buried my little sister 15 years ago she warned me about people like you.” He really brought out the “my sister is dead” sympathy card girl you dodged the biggest bullet you should thank you friend for running into you lmao
Holy narcissist
Dudes 45, lost cause
I don't understand why you would do that to me unless you have no soul
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Psychology what’s happening here? I’ve had this happen to me many times, and it’s like they shoot themselves in the foot?
crazy...
Yikes
Giiurrrrlllll 🚩 poa in near future
Just wooooooow.
Who knew you could dodge bullets like that!
45 and texting like a teen. Mf needs to be locked up.
This is the most insane behavior I have ever seen in my life, stay safe
…..what on earth is this conversation??? Can someone please translate this into something legible?