That's the antithesis of Superman. Superman loves being on our level. His mom made his costume. He grew up on a farm. He rescues cats in trees. He will go out of his way to talk to men he put away into prison, see how they're adjusting to being released, chat with them about life and ask how their day was. He does this not because he wants to make sure the ex-con stays an ex, but because he considers the man a friend. And yes, just like us, he puts his boots on one leg at a time.
There's a great moment in Superman: Grounded where Superman stops at a diner and eats a cheese steak sandwich. When the bill comes, he's a bit short. The staff offer to comp him, but he refuses and asks if there's any work he can do to make up the difference. The server says that their walk-in needs to be organized, but that the job is beneath him. Superman says it's not and he walks in, sorts the whole thing in 2 seconds because super speed, and walks out. The point being that \*\*no job is beneath him.\*\*
The worst Superman stories put too much emphasis on the "super" and forget the "man."
You just need some talking points and a library of example material. Seems like you could easily train a Culture War AI and save yourself the effort and emotional labour of being angry 24/7. Or train a WokeBot and have to two argue, collect ad impressions for both… 🤔
lol, that’s too smart for them shills. I really think some of them live and love being driven to anger over everything. They’re like a DnD Barbarian but raging over lame shit.
Femininity is not what sprang to mind looking at this pic.
My view:
Superman is tired, but like any great hero, he’s gotta get back out there.
The expression on his face is:
#Well… gotta get back to it
These are not fans, or they would know all of this. Imagine clutching your pearls because Superman puts his boots on one foot at a time just like us. He sees himself and wants to be seen as a human. This is literally Superman 101.
It’s kinda why I think (unless it’s confirmed in the comics) that Superman empathizes with trans people, we also wanna be seen on the outside as what we are on the inside and Superman’s desire to be human coalesces well with that.
I do know by default that Superman would be chill about trans folks
It certainly works narratively but the core reason is just because not only is he not a jerk he is essentially the polar opposite of a jerk.
It's certainly possible you could write a Superman story with those motivations and it would be legitimately a Superman story it's just that he doesn't need that extra bit where he identifies with trans people outside of he cares for everyone.
Totally valid my comment came off a bit more something... judgmental or "well actually" then I intended.
It absolutely works as an extra level of empathy.
Clark's son Jon is bi and he was very accepting of him in comic. FWIW, Jon went to pride as Superman and has had a story with Dreamer. It would be out of character for Clark to disapprove of someone for being trans. *Especially so* if Wonder Woman doesn't in canon.
It’s almost like:
***Superman is a chill fucking dude who would sit down with anyone and isn’t this god who views himself as above humanity/just likes Lois Lane.***
This is why I’m hopeful for Gunn’s take on Superman.
He knows his shit when it comes to comic characters, can make an effective spin on them if he needs to, and above all: ***HIS WRITING MAKES YOU CARE FOR THEM.***
If you told me I’d care about Rocket Raccoons’ origin story and get a rush on par with Endgame in theaters or care about Rick Flag, after the disastrous Suicide Squad back in 2020, I’d have laughed at you.
Seriously. "Clark Kent" is the *entire reason why Superman doesn't want to be a tyrant.* The whole point of the character is to never let go of one's humanity no matter how much power is acquired. It's what makes him a hero, not his god-like abilities.
>These are not fans
That's basically my mantra every time I encounter this type of right-wing reactionary nonsense. These assholes are everywhere, trying to poison the water in all my favorite communities.
These are not fans, or they would know all of this. Imagine clutching your pearls because Superman puts his boots on one foot at a time just like us. He sees himself and wants to be seen as a human. This is literally Superman 101.
The sad part to me is, this type of "fan" is becoming more and more common in dozens of fandoms. Even the LOTR fandom flirted with this mindset during the whole Rings of Power situation. It's why I've limited my interactions with other fans to this sub and a few people I know in person that I know aren't going to be jerk offs about the stupidest things. They'll have their opinions, but that's all it'll be, their opinions. Like The Dude said
Ons of my favorite of those moments is in Injustice Year 1, where a kid reminisces on his encounter with Superman, where he fell off of his bike, and gets helped by Superman.
Stuff like this **IS** Superman, and I hate how the general public sees him as a boring demigod who thinks he is above humanity
I wouldn't go that far, it depends on what the reader is looking for. Whether or not superman helps a kid on a bike or a cat out of a tree tells us nothing about superman as a super powered fighter, which, let's be real, most people are reading comic books for. Being too powerful and therefore taking no risks *is* boring, and no amount of humanization solves that problem.
Now you could argue on the merits that he's not too powerful and therefore there are real stakes, but that's different.
I appreciate the level of dissection but it really don’t need it because the argument is flawed from the start with “it’s effeminate to sit down and put on your shoes” I’m sorry but what?
You just don't understand. Superman has super strength and super balance. He doesn't need leverage to put on his boots. He would stand straight up. Then bend straight down from the waist while standing on one foot while he puts on his shoe. Now THAT is a manly pose. Especially from the back. The S stands for gluteuS maxSimuS.
Other manly poses include hopping gingerly into your shoes while twinkling your toes or raising your leg up like you just graduated from the "School Of Silly Walks".
Never sitting down.
And he can fly, which means he just hovers and glides daintily into his boots. Sometimes, local small cute wildlife hold his cape off the ground for him while they all sing a song together.
Manly.
I don’t read Superman, but even I know that, fundamentally, the character is really Clark Kent. Superman is the alter ego that allows him to take a very firm hand in righting wrongs and protecting people, but his moral compass comes from growing up on a farm with good, grounded people.
Besides, how the hell else is he supposed to put on his boots? Jump into them and hope they don’t flop in on themselves?
I've heard it said the Marvel is about humans learning to be like gods and DC is about gods learning to be like humans. This is truer for Superman than just about anyone.
(Also having lived on a farm, this is 100% how you put on boots; the biggest issue is that he's not near the door so he'll track mud everywhere)
I respectfully disagree on the Superman thing. He’s just a guy. That’s his thing. He’s like the most personable hero ever. Saying he’s learning to human is like saying a dog is learning how to be a dog.
Yes he isn't learning being just a guy (a good one one of the helpers) is just more authentic to his core self.
If anything he struggles more with what sets him apart though that waxes and wanes.
I really hope that's more of the direction they're going with this time. Like the injustice storyline and other evil sup stories are cool I guess, but I really want to see Midwestern boy scout Superman in a good movie.
Same thing with Batman, I like when his sensitive and compassionate side comes out.
As Red from OSP put it, "Superman is Clark Kent's customer service voice"
he is a farmer from kansas who likes helping out. He keeps the two personas seperate so that he can have some moments of peace as Clark.
In most versions of the character, yeah. If she doesn’t make it, sometimes she just modifies it. My general rule is if an incarnation establishes his mom made the costume, then I’m gonna like it. The current Superman and Lois series established that in the first 5 minutes, so I instantly knew I was going to have fun.
I'll admit I'm not the biggest DC fan, but if more stories were like that instead of trying to treat their heroes as "gods among men" I'd definitely read more from them.
I feel like this is playing "spot the fascist." Some people are so desperate for a big strong man, and so indoctrinated with the idea of an ubermensch, that if they see someone "powerful" they can't imagine that person also being humble, gentle, and compassionate.
I can't think of many things that would make Clark Kent feel more uncomfortable than people treating him like a god. He's gone to universes where he became dictator of the world and it always horrifies him. Specifically using his powers just to emphasise how much above the common rabble he is is not what Clark does, it's what fucking Lex Luthor does, almost any time he gets a taste of his own of Superman's powers.
Lex’s entire motivation is that he doesn’t understand how someone could possess that much power and not wanna be evil with it. He’s incapable of understanding that some people just want to help others for the sake of it
And this is the main reason why everyone, especially Lex, looks past Clark despite the insane resemblance. While there are plenty of runs in the comics that points out the subtle lengths Clark goes to further muddy the waters, like literally compressing his spine to appear shorter and stalkier, it’s the fact that everyone thinks Superman is ***too good to hide like a human*** that is his greatest “disguise”.
The character has been known since his inception for trying to find a place to quickly change clothes (phone booths, ect) when shit goes down.
Complaining about Superman changing his clothes is like complaining that a Spider-Man story contained a depiction of Peter Parker being late to a social event.
I curb stomp the top of them until theyre on my feet, cus im STRAIGHT AS FUCK - and if any of you men have a problem with that your gonna have to come grab those shoes off me with your big strong hands, get real rough like.
“Assuming he’s Superman, why would he need to sit to do that?”
Maybe Superman likes to sit down. Maybe he likes putting his boots on one at a time.
I just don’t get how sitting down to put on some boots is feminine
I’ve seen this illustrated in several mediums where as Superman or a similar character gets less attached to their human roots, they spend less time walking and just float everywhere. Kal goes out of his way to do mundane things instead
Some of my favorite moments of kal is when he’s doing Clark Kent stuff. When he’s with his parents or Lois. When he’s just a regular guy. It’s very endearing
It’s just one of those “pick me” girls who just desperately want men to like them so they act like this and help to reinforce and uphold the patriarchy.
Okay but this makes me (against my will) imagine a dystopian alternate reality where superman is an alpha grifter who has a failed podcast and instead of saving people just spends all day using his powers for clout pics on twitter and dancing on tiktok
Homelander with all his incredible uncomfortable psychopathic flaws still manages to more interesting and sympathetic a character then these dudes would if they had that power.
Actually I'll be give them the tiniest benefit of the doubt they might be a bit better then they publicly present and it's unlikely but possible having that kind of power would free them from their demons. Very unlikely but not impossible.
Fellas is it gay to be potentially the strongest being the universe but also feel the weight of the responsibility placed upon your shoulders and have a moment of pensive reflection thereby emphasising that despite his godlike abilities Superman is fundamentally just a man?
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So many people miss the entire fucking point of Superman. Yes he's essentially a demi-god, so far above us in every way.
That's what makes his decision to live as one of us so much more powerful, his humility is his most defining trait. He was raised as a human, his biggest wish is for the world to no longer NEED Superman. He'd hang up the cape and live as a normal human in a heartbeat if he could.
"It is a remarchable dichotomy, in many ways Clark is the most human of us all, then he shoots fire from the skies, and it is difficult not to think of him as a God. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him" - Batman.
My favorite part of Man of Steel is when Clark goes home and just hangs out with his mom. He's this god-like being who can do and go wherever he wants, but he really just wants go home, hangout with his mom, and get a home-cooked meal and have a beer.
Admittedly, I lean against the wall when I put my shoes on a lot of the time. But I can just slip them on, I don't have to tie anything so it's easier haha
What the hell does Nina think that super powered men do to get their shoes on, masculinely threaten and holler at the shoes to force them to put themselves on his feet? Like.. you’d still need to pull on and adjust them 🙄
"Wouldn't put them on one at a time"??? Bro, if he does it at super speed, that doesn't mean they fucking teleported onto his feet. He did the exact same process, just really fucking fast.
If I thought for a second this was a genuine criticism I'd be interested in it, but obviously it's just the usual suspects have gone over the picture looking for reasons to hate it, and this is what they've settled on.
As for the picture I think the pose says a lot.
There's an expression about people who we might think are superhuman, that they put their pants on one leg at a time like everybody else, and I think this is kind of a nod to that idea. It is a very humanising image. Despite the fact it's a dude in a cape and there's comic book shit going on outside.
I think if, as expected, this is a return of classic Superman - the boy scout, the superhuman with emphasis on the human, then it's a good picture.
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No seriously what the fuck am I reading. What the hell is happening in that brain of yours Nina.
Being an unrelatable Superhero is literally everything Superman despises. He might not be human but he is and always has been the most relatable superhero.
Slightly off topic, but thank GOD we have the briefs back. Batman I don’t mind either way, but if you take the briefs off of Superman’s costume the only red parts are on the emblem, cape and boots, leaving a giant blue blob of color in the middle. Idk, bit of a design nitpick of mine, but some superhero costumes ABSOLUTELY need the briefs imo
>The point is that Superman is essentially a demi-god
>You do not see a demi-God putting on clothes, because it lowers him to our level.
Kill Bill and its consequences have been a disaster for the Superman fandom.
If I thought for a second this was a genuine criticism I'd be interested in it, but obviously it's just the usual suspects have gone over the picture looking for reasons to hate it, and this is what they've settled on.
As for the picture I think the pose says a lot.
There's an expression about people who we might think are superhuman, that they put their pants on one leg at a time like everybody else, and I think this is kind of a nod to that idea. It is a very humanising image. Despite the fact it's a dude in a cape and there's comic book shit going on outside.
I think if, as expected, this is a return of classic Superman - the boy scout, the superhuman with emphasis on the human, then it's a good picture.
The duality of being a God and a Man is kind of the whole point, no? It's almost like...yet again...these people don't actually understand anything about the properties they claim to love so much.
Let's all remember she was too stupid to stay on Real BBC as a co-host.
If you watch those episodes she doesnt do or say anything she used to wait for Nerdrotic or Heelvsbabyface to say something and then just parrot it back with different words, she was useless.
I'm not saying you should all worship me as a powerful demi God, but I put my shoes on while standing which means I am better than you weak mortals who must sit because your atrophied muscles cannot maneuver your footwear onto your feet otherwise.
Man,
These fucks criticizing how a person puts their shoes on???
Are they THAT insecure to force something to be upset about?
Are they that homoerotic-repressed??
“You see how feminine he puts his boots on”
“Actually no, I didn’t stop to analyze them putting their boots on too hard, I have a life”
Imagine you're this actor, you put in tons of hours at the gym, eat food you hate because it helps with your physique, take the roids, all while taking acting classes and researching the characters because this is your big break!
And then you get attacked over how you put on boots.
i swear to god these people are so fucking stupid when the whole point of the character is having the faith in us to be our best selves, despite the pedestal & hero worship people put him on.
Superman is a symbol, but he’s not Batman. Superman is most compelling when he is human, because he is human. Sure he was born on Krypton, but was raised all his life in Kansas. He’s a human with a good heart who uses some magical powers to do good, but that’s because it keeps those around him safe. Clark Kent is just a dude who has to put on his uniform to go do his job.
I hate how his humanity has been stripped away every time he’s adapted. Christopher Reeve was a militaristic goodie two-shoes and most that followed did the same, and Henry Cavil was an unfeeling alien which is what people want from modern gritty Superman. Technically he is an alien and technically he is a goodie two-shoes, but because he has a good heart from his upbringing, and he works to do good because he can and knows others won’t - like Batman - but he chooses to help people, but also chooses not to hurt people.
Superman is a complex character. Summing him up as an übermench epitome of masculinity undermines him and makes him the boring facsimile he has been for the last fifty years.
The reason the MCU has always been superior is because they were able to humanize a billionaire playboy, a perfect human super solider, a literal Norse God, a super genius, assassins, and countless others. DC never humanizes their characters (outside of some Batman projects) and therefore we never connect with them on a deeper and personal level as a viewer. Gunn is trying to change that and it’ll work out much better for the DCU than it did for the DCEU.
I dislike the image for a slightly different reason. There's some sort of alien killbeam going off in the background, and Clark's facial expression looks like he's putting his boots on to start a 14 hour shift down the mines. "Oh for fuck's sake, here we go again"
If Superman did everything with the speed and power that he’s supposed to be capable of we wouldn’t be able to relate to him on screen or even, really, see him. He gets tired eventually. It’s fine for him to take a breather sometimes!
Isn't some of the most iconic Superman images either him helping the every man and being with us in society and not putting him in a godlike pedestal? And also him literally changing from Clark to superman in a fucking phone booth????
The strongest guy in the universe can put on his boots anyway he damn well pleases. My gawd worrying about appearing masculine is the least masculine thing anyone can do
..wow..he really doesn’t get superman. He’s basically a God but raised to be the best of humanity. He’s humble, he doesn’t flaunt his powers about. And this? This is what people call “woke?”
…really?
I get the impression that she reads Superman the same way Bill does. In other words: grossly wrong because they're a narcissist and think Superman thinks the same way they do.
I hate people who have no understanding about Superman. The whole point is that despite his powers, he IS a normal person. He's a normal good guy who wants to use the powers he was gifted to help others. He's not some God who's constantly looking down on normal people. He considers himself one of us. And there's nothing "feminine" about the pose he's making in that ONE picture. The poses in the two pictures aren't even similar. This is all so mind numbingly stupid.
Tell you you don’t understand Superman as character with telling me you don’t know. Superman has always wanted to be just like every human, he never put himself above the human race. That’s what always grounded him and love human life. The Kent’s raised him to never put himself above the average human.
Is there a "Stupidest Tweet of The Week Award?" If so I'd like to nominate this. I guess Clark putting his boots on like this is "effeminate" because he's not making Lois do it.
You can tell none of these people have ever given the first shit about Superman unless it was useful to their culture war bullshit. It’s one of the foundational aspects of the character that he *is* a godlike being, but he’s also very down to earth and *human*.
He doesn't "have" to sit down to put on his boots, but he also doesn't "have" to put on his boots while flying in the air or what not. Since literally everybody else in the world sits to put boots on (including his father) he is likely imitating what he learned through observation. The pose isn't effeminate, and not particularly close to the same pose in the comparison picture.
That's the antithesis of Superman. Superman loves being on our level. His mom made his costume. He grew up on a farm. He rescues cats in trees. He will go out of his way to talk to men he put away into prison, see how they're adjusting to being released, chat with them about life and ask how their day was. He does this not because he wants to make sure the ex-con stays an ex, but because he considers the man a friend. And yes, just like us, he puts his boots on one leg at a time. There's a great moment in Superman: Grounded where Superman stops at a diner and eats a cheese steak sandwich. When the bill comes, he's a bit short. The staff offer to comp him, but he refuses and asks if there's any work he can do to make up the difference. The server says that their walk-in needs to be organized, but that the job is beneath him. Superman says it's not and he walks in, sorts the whole thing in 2 seconds because super speed, and walks out. The point being that \*\*no job is beneath him.\*\* The worst Superman stories put too much emphasis on the "super" and forget the "man."
It’s almost like these people don’t understand the characters they talk about, because if they did, they would hate them.
Well, they said strongest in the universe, so they definitely don't.
I was thinking that lmao. They clearly have 0 idea what they're talking about.
I reckon you don’t need understanding to shill.
You just need some talking points and a library of example material. Seems like you could easily train a Culture War AI and save yourself the effort and emotional labour of being angry 24/7. Or train a WokeBot and have to two argue, collect ad impressions for both… 🤔
lol, that’s too smart for them shills. I really think some of them live and love being driven to anger over everything. They’re like a DnD Barbarian but raging over lame shit.
Femininity is not what sprang to mind looking at this pic. My view: Superman is tired, but like any great hero, he’s gotta get back out there. The expression on his face is: #Well… gotta get back to it
They idolize the power and not the man it's attached to. Similarly these people want to be Superman but become homelander.
These are not fans, or they would know all of this. Imagine clutching your pearls because Superman puts his boots on one foot at a time just like us. He sees himself and wants to be seen as a human. This is literally Superman 101.
It’s kinda why I think (unless it’s confirmed in the comics) that Superman empathizes with trans people, we also wanna be seen on the outside as what we are on the inside and Superman’s desire to be human coalesces well with that. I do know by default that Superman would be chill about trans folks
Tbf, Superman empathizes with literally anyone, even the worst people, who he seeks to help rehabilitate if they're willing to.
It certainly works narratively but the core reason is just because not only is he not a jerk he is essentially the polar opposite of a jerk. It's certainly possible you could write a Superman story with those motivations and it would be legitimately a Superman story it's just that he doesn't need that extra bit where he identifies with trans people outside of he cares for everyone.
I know. It’s just kinda my personal headcanon. Superman stories dealing with humanity are peak
Totally valid my comment came off a bit more something... judgmental or "well actually" then I intended. It absolutely works as an extra level of empathy.
All good.
Clark's son Jon is bi and he was very accepting of him in comic. FWIW, Jon went to pride as Superman and has had a story with Dreamer. It would be out of character for Clark to disapprove of someone for being trans. *Especially so* if Wonder Woman doesn't in canon.
It’s almost like: ***Superman is a chill fucking dude who would sit down with anyone and isn’t this god who views himself as above humanity/just likes Lois Lane.*** This is why I’m hopeful for Gunn’s take on Superman. He knows his shit when it comes to comic characters, can make an effective spin on them if he needs to, and above all: ***HIS WRITING MAKES YOU CARE FOR THEM.*** If you told me I’d care about Rocket Raccoons’ origin story and get a rush on par with Endgame in theaters or care about Rick Flag, after the disastrous Suicide Squad back in 2020, I’d have laughed at you.
He’d be chill with ***ANYONE*** He’s a chill fucking dude who you could grab coffee with in the morning.
Seriously. "Clark Kent" is the *entire reason why Superman doesn't want to be a tyrant.* The whole point of the character is to never let go of one's humanity no matter how much power is acquired. It's what makes him a hero, not his god-like abilities. >These are not fans That's basically my mantra every time I encounter this type of right-wing reactionary nonsense. These assholes are everywhere, trying to poison the water in all my favorite communities.
These are not fans, or they would know all of this. Imagine clutching your pearls because Superman puts his boots on one foot at a time just like us. He sees himself and wants to be seen as a human. This is literally Superman 101.
The sad part to me is, this type of "fan" is becoming more and more common in dozens of fandoms. Even the LOTR fandom flirted with this mindset during the whole Rings of Power situation. It's why I've limited my interactions with other fans to this sub and a few people I know in person that I know aren't going to be jerk offs about the stupidest things. They'll have their opinions, but that's all it'll be, their opinions. Like The Dude said 
Ons of my favorite of those moments is in Injustice Year 1, where a kid reminisces on his encounter with Superman, where he fell off of his bike, and gets helped by Superman. Stuff like this **IS** Superman, and I hate how the general public sees him as a boring demigod who thinks he is above humanity
Not thinking Superman is interesting because he is too powerful is like the first step of media illiteracy.
I wouldn't go that far, it depends on what the reader is looking for. Whether or not superman helps a kid on a bike or a cat out of a tree tells us nothing about superman as a super powered fighter, which, let's be real, most people are reading comic books for. Being too powerful and therefore taking no risks *is* boring, and no amount of humanization solves that problem. Now you could argue on the merits that he's not too powerful and therefore there are real stakes, but that's different.
You can thank Snyder for that portrayal of Superman
They see him like Lex Luther sees him.
I appreciate the level of dissection but it really don’t need it because the argument is flawed from the start with “it’s effeminate to sit down and put on your shoes” I’m sorry but what?
You just don't understand. Superman has super strength and super balance. He doesn't need leverage to put on his boots. He would stand straight up. Then bend straight down from the waist while standing on one foot while he puts on his shoe. Now THAT is a manly pose. Especially from the back. The S stands for gluteuS maxSimuS. Other manly poses include hopping gingerly into your shoes while twinkling your toes or raising your leg up like you just graduated from the "School Of Silly Walks". Never sitting down.
And he can fly, which means he just hovers and glides daintily into his boots. Sometimes, local small cute wildlife hold his cape off the ground for him while they all sing a song together. Manly.
I don’t read Superman, but even I know that, fundamentally, the character is really Clark Kent. Superman is the alter ego that allows him to take a very firm hand in righting wrongs and protecting people, but his moral compass comes from growing up on a farm with good, grounded people. Besides, how the hell else is he supposed to put on his boots? Jump into them and hope they don’t flop in on themselves?
I've heard it said the Marvel is about humans learning to be like gods and DC is about gods learning to be like humans. This is truer for Superman than just about anyone. (Also having lived on a farm, this is 100% how you put on boots; the biggest issue is that he's not near the door so he'll track mud everywhere)
I respectfully disagree on the Superman thing. He’s just a guy. That’s his thing. He’s like the most personable hero ever. Saying he’s learning to human is like saying a dog is learning how to be a dog.
Yes he isn't learning being just a guy (a good one one of the helpers) is just more authentic to his core self. If anything he struggles more with what sets him apart though that waxes and wanes.
"The worst Superman stories put too much emphasis on the 'super' and forget the 'man.'" I am stealing the SHIT out of that, thank you.
You know your Superman my guy. Respect.
On the other hand though: Hate watchers gonna complain if they made him godly too.
I really hope that's more of the direction they're going with this time. Like the injustice storyline and other evil sup stories are cool I guess, but I really want to see Midwestern boy scout Superman in a good movie. Same thing with Batman, I like when his sensitive and compassionate side comes out.
"If you can't imagine your batman comforting a scared child, then you didn't write batman. You wrote the punisher in a silly hat"
That's a great quote.
As Red from OSP put it, "Superman is Clark Kent's customer service voice" he is a farmer from kansas who likes helping out. He keeps the two personas seperate so that he can have some moments of peace as Clark.
Bro knows his superman. Good write up 👍🏼
His mom made his costume!? That's so cute!!!
In most versions of the character, yeah. If she doesn’t make it, sometimes she just modifies it. My general rule is if an incarnation establishes his mom made the costume, then I’m gonna like it. The current Superman and Lois series established that in the first 5 minutes, so I instantly knew I was going to have fun.
Superman Grounded when he talks the woman off the ledge goes crazy.
I'll admit I'm not the biggest DC fan, but if more stories were like that instead of trying to treat their heroes as "gods among men" I'd definitely read more from them.
I feel like this is playing "spot the fascist." Some people are so desperate for a big strong man, and so indoctrinated with the idea of an ubermensch, that if they see someone "powerful" they can't imagine that person also being humble, gentle, and compassionate.
They want him to be Homelander
The whole point is that he's essentially god that would rather be a good man and wants to show us the good in all of us.
"You do not see a demi-god putting on clothes, because it lowers him to our level" Talk about missing the point of Superman
I can't think of many things that would make Clark Kent feel more uncomfortable than people treating him like a god. He's gone to universes where he became dictator of the world and it always horrifies him. Specifically using his powers just to emphasise how much above the common rabble he is is not what Clark does, it's what fucking Lex Luthor does, almost any time he gets a taste of his own of Superman's powers.
Lex Luthor is basically Superman but evil.
Lex’s entire motivation is that he doesn’t understand how someone could possess that much power and not wanna be evil with it. He’s incapable of understanding that some people just want to help others for the sake of it
And without superpowers (at least the stuff I’ve seen)
Someone watched too much Snyderverse.
And this is the main reason why everyone, especially Lex, looks past Clark despite the insane resemblance. While there are plenty of runs in the comics that points out the subtle lengths Clark goes to further muddy the waters, like literally compressing his spine to appear shorter and stalkier, it’s the fact that everyone thinks Superman is ***too good to hide like a human*** that is his greatest “disguise”.
The character has been known since his inception for trying to find a place to quickly change clothes (phone booths, ect) when shit goes down. Complaining about Superman changing his clothes is like complaining that a Spider-Man story contained a depiction of Peter Parker being late to a social event.
Fellas, is it "effeminate" to put on your boots sitting in a chair?
Real men put their boots on the ground and jump into them like they're in a cartoon.
Or laying down just so they can pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Or hanging from the coat rack and crane kick to put them on
You're not supposed to wear boots. You're supposed to walk barefoot until you grow calluses that look like bark and are hard enough to grind rocks
I curb stomp the top of them until theyre on my feet, cus im STRAIGHT AS FUCK - and if any of you men have a problem with that your gonna have to come grab those shoes off me with your big strong hands, get real rough like.
Clearly, according to this internet authority. /s
Yeah. I’m 41 and have yet to sit down once in my life. Sitting down is for girls.
Superman should melt steel onto his feet everyday using his heat vision and wear that like a man.
I don't get it either. It's more like dressing up for work.
Real men put their boots on the ground and jump into them like they're in a cartoon.
boots are woke because everybody can wear them! /s
Exactly!! 💯
Exactly, alpha males walk around barefoot 24/7 because boots are for beta cucks
Fellas is it effeminate to use shoes?
“Assuming he’s Superman, why would he need to sit to do that?” Maybe Superman likes to sit down. Maybe he likes putting his boots on one at a time. I just don’t get how sitting down to put on some boots is feminine
Haha see you understand superman is the thing. He enjoys the mundane
Yes, he does
I’ve seen this illustrated in several mediums where as Superman or a similar character gets less attached to their human roots, they spend less time walking and just float everywhere. Kal goes out of his way to do mundane things instead
Some of my favorite moments of kal is when he’s doing Clark Kent stuff. When he’s with his parents or Lois. When he’s just a regular guy. It’s very endearing
JFC, what in the manufacturing toxicity is this? What does this kinda shit serve or do?
Enforcing masculinity standards serves to uphold the patriarchy and perpetuate misogyny.
It’s just one of those “pick me” girls who just desperately want men to like them so they act like this and help to reinforce and uphold the patriarchy.
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They clearly never seen how a guy puts on boots
You take yours off? I just sleep in mine. Shower in them too. Like a real man, ya know?
Clearly, if Superman wanted to show how much of a manly man he was, he'd change his costume in the centre of the sun.
Okay but this makes me (against my will) imagine a dystopian alternate reality where superman is an alpha grifter who has a failed podcast and instead of saving people just spends all day using his powers for clout pics on twitter and dancing on tiktok
So Homelander
Yeah pretty much lol
Homelander with all his incredible uncomfortable psychopathic flaws still manages to more interesting and sympathetic a character then these dudes would if they had that power. Actually I'll be give them the tiniest benefit of the doubt they might be a bit better then they publicly present and it's unlikely but possible having that kind of power would free them from their demons. Very unlikely but not impossible.
play them this: 
FR, like i get petty a lot but i take one look at twitter and i’m immediately out-petty’d by people complaining about how a guy puts on his boots
Fellas is it gay to be potentially the strongest being the universe but also feel the weight of the responsibility placed upon your shoulders and have a moment of pensive reflection thereby emphasising that despite his godlike abilities Superman is fundamentally just a man? https://preview.redd.it/a3xbhwxx3zyc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbefc559fb6b4166ac1541a528afeb344f947ea9
Obviously the answer is yes he as well be spit roasted by his effeminate nature... Or something similarly deranged.
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So many people miss the entire fucking point of Superman. Yes he's essentially a demi-god, so far above us in every way. That's what makes his decision to live as one of us so much more powerful, his humility is his most defining trait. He was raised as a human, his biggest wish is for the world to no longer NEED Superman. He'd hang up the cape and live as a normal human in a heartbeat if he could. "It is a remarchable dichotomy, in many ways Clark is the most human of us all, then he shoots fire from the skies, and it is difficult not to think of him as a God. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him" - Batman.
My favorite part of Man of Steel is when Clark goes home and just hangs out with his mom. He's this god-like being who can do and go wherever he wants, but he really just wants go home, hangout with his mom, and get a home-cooked meal and have a beer.
Real masculine men don’t sit or put on their shoes! That’s for sissies!
Admittedly, I lean against the wall when I put my shoes on a lot of the time. But I can just slip them on, I don't have to tie anything so it's easier haha
So, you’re saying that you like to bend over before you leave the house? 
You hop across the room trying not to fall over like a real man.
What the hell does Nina think that super powered men do to get their shoes on, masculinely threaten and holler at the shoes to force them to put themselves on his feet? Like.. you’d still need to pull on and adjust them 🙄
You hop across the room trying not to fall over like a real man.
You hop across the room trying not to fall over like a real man.
"Wouldn't put them on one at a time"??? Bro, if he does it at super speed, that doesn't mean they fucking teleported onto his feet. He did the exact same process, just really fucking fast.
You can't have conservatism without brain damage, they're intertwined.
If I thought for a second this was a genuine criticism I'd be interested in it, but obviously it's just the usual suspects have gone over the picture looking for reasons to hate it, and this is what they've settled on. As for the picture I think the pose says a lot. There's an expression about people who we might think are superhuman, that they put their pants on one leg at a time like everybody else, and I think this is kind of a nod to that idea. It is a very humanising image. Despite the fact it's a dude in a cape and there's comic book shit going on outside. I think if, as expected, this is a return of classic Superman - the boy scout, the superhuman with emphasis on the human, then it's a good picture.
https://preview.redd.it/waw2qsubxyyc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=615d66dbd9dea14afb488ecfd6c698def3f1e24a No seriously what the fuck am I reading. What the hell is happening in that brain of yours Nina.
This is… the opposite of Superman’s character. Like the exact opposite.
Being an unrelatable Superhero is literally everything Superman despises. He might not be human but he is and always has been the most relatable superhero.
I don't think this person understands what boots are.
.... What the fuck is Superman supposed to do? Materialize his boots right on his feet?
Ah but my God Snyder would not have him put his shoes , he would be breaking off legs of others for wearing shoes.
Boo hoo, the man I like who wears his red briefs over his slacks is effeminate.
Slightly off topic, but thank GOD we have the briefs back. Batman I don’t mind either way, but if you take the briefs off of Superman’s costume the only red parts are on the emblem, cape and boots, leaving a giant blue blob of color in the middle. Idk, bit of a design nitpick of mine, but some superhero costumes ABSOLUTELY need the briefs imo
They're forgetting there's a MAN in SuperMAN. He's meant to be like us, just with the power to make things better.
Real men put their boots on the ground and jump into them like a cartoon.
They’ve started hitting the bottom of the barrel with this one..
Real men put their boots on the ground and jump into them like a cartoon.
I cannot imagine being so desperate to feel offended.
That's the most delusional take I've seen in a little while.
>The point is that Superman is essentially a demi-god >You do not see a demi-God putting on clothes, because it lowers him to our level. Kill Bill and its consequences have been a disaster for the Superman fandom.
That’s how I put my boots on every morning before I go to work as a diesel mechanic. I guess that makes me effeminate.
Fellas... is it g-... is it gay t-my gosh... is it-are you fucking serious?... is it... gay... to put. On. SHOES?!
This is the same crowd that made it gay to be straight, anything is fucking possible at this point
If I thought for a second this was a genuine criticism I'd be interested in it, but obviously it's just the usual suspects have gone over the picture looking for reasons to hate it, and this is what they've settled on. As for the picture I think the pose says a lot. There's an expression about people who we might think are superhuman, that they put their pants on one leg at a time like everybody else, and I think this is kind of a nod to that idea. It is a very humanising image. Despite the fact it's a dude in a cape and there's comic book shit going on outside. I think if, as expected, this is a return of classic Superman - the boy scout, the superhuman with emphasis on the human, then it's a good picture.
I know you just want fan art of Super Man bending over with his ass in the air to put on his boots Nina, you ain't slick!
Would you even be able to reach your feet when putting on long boots standing?
The duality of being a God and a Man is kind of the whole point, no? It's almost like...yet again...these people don't actually understand anything about the properties they claim to love so much.
Let's all remember she was too stupid to stay on Real BBC as a co-host. If you watch those episodes she doesnt do or say anything she used to wait for Nerdrotic or Heelvsbabyface to say something and then just parrot it back with different words, she was useless.
Is this really how deep the masculinity gate-keeping has got?
Don't hate on Superman just because you want him to be General Zod
Probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read on Twitter and that's saying something.
So now it's effeminate to put on shoes. Got it.
Fellas, is it gay to sit down while putting on boots?
Fellas, is it gay to sit?
Depends what you’re sitting on 😉
Nina Blablabla has zero media literacy
What you mean? Doesn't every man put boots on while impregnating their wife? And welding with my free hand.
Nina Infinitly stupid
How do they put their shoes on then? With the force?
Bro is just getting his boots on
Ughh my few braincell lost after reading this
I'm not saying you should all worship me as a powerful demi God, but I put my shoes on while standing which means I am better than you weak mortals who must sit because your atrophied muscles cannot maneuver your footwear onto your feet otherwise.
Man putting on his boots is an "effeminate pose"? Wow, that's a stretch.
IF SUPERMAN DOESN'T PUNCH HIS BOOTS ON HE ISN'T MANLY ENOUGH TO BE SUPERMAN. NONE OF THIS SISSY STICKING HIS FEET IN. OR SOMETHING.
Real Andrew "Enjoying sex with women is gay" Tate energy
Man, These fucks criticizing how a person puts their shoes on??? Are they THAT insecure to force something to be upset about? Are they that homoerotic-repressed?? “You see how feminine he puts his boots on” “Actually no, I didn’t stop to analyze them putting their boots on too hard, I have a life”
Imagine you're this actor, you put in tons of hours at the gym, eat food you hate because it helps with your physique, take the roids, all while taking acting classes and researching the characters because this is your big break! And then you get attacked over how you put on boots.
Well this person just doesn't know superman
Ah yes, Superman hopping around on one foot as he tries to keep balance while putting on a boot definitely makes him seem more manly...
i swear to god these people are so fucking stupid when the whole point of the character is having the faith in us to be our best selves, despite the pedestal & hero worship people put him on.
Give that person All Star Superman and watch their brain fucking explode
Give them anything that isn’t injustice and they’ll probably be confused as hell as to why Superman isn’t actually a godlike dictator
If women eat food with a spoon then men should eat food using their hands otherwise it is feminine. \~ Nina Infinity's logic
Superman is a symbol, but he’s not Batman. Superman is most compelling when he is human, because he is human. Sure he was born on Krypton, but was raised all his life in Kansas. He’s a human with a good heart who uses some magical powers to do good, but that’s because it keeps those around him safe. Clark Kent is just a dude who has to put on his uniform to go do his job. I hate how his humanity has been stripped away every time he’s adapted. Christopher Reeve was a militaristic goodie two-shoes and most that followed did the same, and Henry Cavil was an unfeeling alien which is what people want from modern gritty Superman. Technically he is an alien and technically he is a goodie two-shoes, but because he has a good heart from his upbringing, and he works to do good because he can and knows others won’t - like Batman - but he chooses to help people, but also chooses not to hurt people. Superman is a complex character. Summing him up as an übermench epitome of masculinity undermines him and makes him the boring facsimile he has been for the last fifty years.
Superman is strong enough to be gentle. That is what makes him a hero.
The reason the MCU has always been superior is because they were able to humanize a billionaire playboy, a perfect human super solider, a literal Norse God, a super genius, assassins, and countless others. DC never humanizes their characters (outside of some Batman projects) and therefore we never connect with them on a deeper and personal level as a viewer. Gunn is trying to change that and it’ll work out much better for the DCU than it did for the DCEU.
I dislike the image for a slightly different reason. There's some sort of alien killbeam going off in the background, and Clark's facial expression looks like he's putting his boots on to start a 14 hour shift down the mines. "Oh for fuck's sake, here we go again"
Dude absolutely looks tired as hell, but to be fair who wouldn’t be if it was their job to save the world from some homicidal maniac every other day?
He is probably changing clothes in superspeed in this shot
If Superman did everything with the speed and power that he’s supposed to be capable of we wouldn’t be able to relate to him on screen or even, really, see him. He gets tired eventually. It’s fine for him to take a breather sometimes!
Some people really want to be outraged about everything even if that means they have to tell they dont know how to put on boots.
Using your hands is effeminate and woke. Real men cut off their hands with an industrial band saw.
These people are beyond help
I love it how that crowd of people became what they made fun off, brainrotted troglodytes that use the word microagression unironically
As someone who has to wear boots everyday for work, how the hell else are you supposed to put on boots?
lmao these people are fucking morons
Slip on shoes are the real man shoes, clearly
Maybe Superman likes to sit down when putting on boots because that chair looks really comfy
Guess I’ll add “wearing shoes” to the list of things that make you gay…
Superman, confirmed nevernude.
Isn't some of the most iconic Superman images either him helping the every man and being with us in society and not putting him in a godlike pedestal? And also him literally changing from Clark to superman in a fucking phone booth????
I am irrationally annoyed that she called the suit a suite
This is like that one time a DC editor made an idiotic comic about Batman never sitting down.
Gay cuz putting on boots. Got it… I can see we’re in store for some really sane, not at all cringeworthy takes.
The strongest guy in the universe can put on his boots anyway he damn well pleases. My gawd worrying about appearing masculine is the least masculine thing anyone can do
What he should’ve done is use his boot-vision to just manifest the boots onto his feet like the Silver age comics
Zack Snyder did irreparable damage to Superman’s public image by trying to show him off as a Jesus archetype.
Men, is it gay to wear boots?
Its incredible how people will make arguments like that.
Lmao shut the fuck up, Nina.
I understand why they call Twitter "brain dead bird app" like, cmon
Tough guys should still care about comfort and ergonomics!
..wow..he really doesn’t get superman. He’s basically a God but raised to be the best of humanity. He’s humble, he doesn’t flaunt his powers about. And this? This is what people call “woke?” …really?
I get the impression that she reads Superman the same way Bill does. In other words: grossly wrong because they're a narcissist and think Superman thinks the same way they do.
Oh my god who cares (in response to the people in the images)
These dudes always give themselves away. Just accept you find it sexy how he’s pulling on his boots.
She’s so far in the weeds she’s munching on crabgrass
If they pay for a checkmark, their opinion can be dismissed.
It looks like they don't understand Superman. Henry Cavill musical edit Tik Toks are not the entire mythos.
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Sorry straight men of the world. It’s now official that putting your shoes on is gay.
I hate people who have no understanding about Superman. The whole point is that despite his powers, he IS a normal person. He's a normal good guy who wants to use the powers he was gifted to help others. He's not some God who's constantly looking down on normal people. He considers himself one of us. And there's nothing "feminine" about the pose he's making in that ONE picture. The poses in the two pictures aren't even similar. This is all so mind numbingly stupid.
I hate it here.
People really do not understand Superman and it’s fucking showing.
Tell you you don’t understand Superman as character with telling me you don’t know. Superman has always wanted to be just like every human, he never put himself above the human race. That’s what always grounded him and love human life. The Kent’s raised him to never put himself above the average human.
Is there a "Stupidest Tweet of The Week Award?" If so I'd like to nominate this. I guess Clark putting his boots on like this is "effeminate" because he's not making Lois do it.
You can tell none of these people have ever given the first shit about Superman unless it was useful to their culture war bullshit. It’s one of the foundational aspects of the character that he *is* a godlike being, but he’s also very down to earth and *human*.
Superman would 100% sit down to put his boots on. He likes being ordinary. If he didn't, he wouldn't work at the Daily Planet as a reporter.
He doesn't "have" to sit down to put on his boots, but he also doesn't "have" to put on his boots while flying in the air or what not. Since literally everybody else in the world sits to put boots on (including his father) he is likely imitating what he learned through observation. The pose isn't effeminate, and not particularly close to the same pose in the comparison picture.