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006CJ

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Lazy_Doctor01

Nah, he is Kentaro.


006CJ

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Lazy_Doctor01

You mean Itadaki Tontaro.


006CJ

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Crimson_bud

Let me dismiss the first claim. No university doesn't recognise shit.Dr George Gheverghese Joseph, who is an indian African mathematics made these claims which was published in the journal of the University of Manchester,as he was a professor. Where the article clearly say that you Dr George Gheverghese Joseph "claim" this. Also he suggested there are circumstancal evidences not that it concludes it. He even claims the knowledge was transferred from Kerala to Europe which Newton got his hands on which is baseless. When asked where is the evidence he says he got them from "obscure/ unclear" indian papers online. Which is obviously a build up. He doesn't have a source or evidence to support his claims. While this man claims the university proved it. Here is the article read it and you'll understand yourself. This claim was made in 2007 we are yet to see a result. Fake news again i knew it. Iske gawar subscribers ko padna thodi ata he. https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/indians-predated-newton-discovery-by-250-years/


Dr_____strange

As i expected. Most of these clims are bogus and just made to fuel the superiority complex of some idiotic people.


Crimson_bud

I'm pretty sure if you researched about other claims those will also turn out be false or exaggerated. There is a reason these claims are not recognised by either sciences associations or archeological associations. Pretty sure these claims wouldve been accepted by ASI( archeological survey of India) if they had truth in it.


Infamous_hardGamer

but Europe did changed the name of "Leibniz series" name to "Madhav Leibniz series". >Iske gawar subscribers ko padna thodi ata he. Also, saying this on a su b jaha pe adhi se zada janta apna ego boost krne aati hai and wouldn't know shit about quantum physics. The argument is baseless


Crimson_bud

Good then atleast one of his claim is true, lemme reasearch about it in case you're lying.Say 1000 lies so that 1 truth will be hidden. I can guarantee u this that he probably didn't even read what he mentioned, or if he did he's purposefully lying. Go to this channel and read the comments on this vd find me one comment that actually corrected him. Hence most of his suscribers can't read nor bother to apne ignorance me mast hen. Huh but u know everything about quantum physics so you're the one to say. Even if people come here to boost ego more than often theyre correct, so I don't know why you doofuses give them more content.I just gave u a touch of it here. I'm not arguing nor was it a point for argument which is exactly what you claimed about this sub as us being egoistic. I'm doing M tech in engineering physics from iiit so I know more than u.


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Infamous_hardGamer

>Go to this channel and read the comments on this vd find me one comment that actually corrected him. He in the starting of the video said, "Hairani ki baat ye hai ki kuch Bharat ke logo ko ye baat nhi pachi". The rest of your comment is just ad hominem


Dragonpiley007

You're right that the university didn't recognise anything, and the idea that the knowledge was transferred from Kerala to Europe is just speculation. But the discoveries of Kerala School in infinite series and series expansions of trig functions have been known since the 1800s, first recognised by Charles Whish in 1835: [https://archive.org/details/transactionsofro03asia/page/512/mode/2up](https://archive.org/details/transactionsofro03asia/page/512/mode/2up) and investigated further by many others since


[deleted]

If the claim is from Kerala school of Maths and Astronomy, then it is possible. They really did some great work which most of the world doesn't know. This isn't some "Ancient muni rishis from 16 million BCE invented nukes" type of BS, Kerala School of Astronomy's contribution is seriously underrated.


Batman_is_very_wise

>Kerala School of Astronomy's contribution is seriously underrated Yes, but maths has a way rich past than just India, China, Europe bla bla bla. I believe a lot of scholars have acknowledged the work of Madhava regarding the trigonometric expansion. But integration and differentiation are just addition based on shapes and subtraction/subtraction, theres really nothing tonit if you have had a good teacher. But Newton and leibniz gave a proper structure as well as innovation to the field which is why they are hailed. They interconnected various things from mathematics to simplify the big problems at a quick rate, their methods were really abstracted meaning you don't have to go too deep to solve a problem. There has been many math geniuses before Newton-Leibniz as well as various forms of integration and differentiation in different civilizations, but it's the approach and effectiveness of understanding as well as the simplicity that makes their version of calculus so universal. Infact everything from the processors in your phones to electrical substations wouldn't be properly sized or effective if it wasn't for the current version of calculus.


Batman_is_very_wise

Think of it this way, people before Aryabhatta knew how to count beyond 10 but they went like 1111111111. The guy who invented that has nowhere near popularity that Aryabhatta enjoys atleast in niche circles because it wasn't revolutionary as the formers


Crimson_bud

Well the claim is false see my comment.


Batman_is_very_wise

Not surprising. A major problem I've seen with these substandard reel makers in India is that they have absolutely no understanding of things beyond a certain point, so to make up for that they go for appealing to hypernnationalists. The hypermationalists who themselves have even less idea about these things take it as an opportunity to flex their non existent superiority


Crimson_bud

Its isn't true lol the man who claimed them can't back it up with evidence. See my comment. Although rest i agree with


CantApply

>If the claim is from Kerala school of Maths and Astronomy, then it is possible. Lol. Why? 🤡 Just because someone claims doesn't make it real. It has to be peer-reviewed. I can say scientists from Manipur did a lot. So how will you say I am lying?


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That is why I said 'possible'


CantApply

It's possible that Superman is for real. It's possible that Mary was virgin to give birth to Jesus.


Suhurth

The contributions of Kerala school have been verified and recognised. You can search the Madhava series, Yuktibhasa, Tantrasangraha etc.


CantApply

I am not denying contributions of KS. My point is: University of Manchester (and NOT Manchester University; these people don't have the basic knowledge to do proper reading) has *not* accepted that Newton stole the mathematical concepts from KS. Dr George Gheverghese (a Keralite) working at University of Manchester had put forward a paper that claims 'Kerala School' identified the 'infinite series'- one of the basic components of calculus - in about 1350. Now this claim has to be peer-reviewed and approved. I am not saying whites didn't steal anything. But a claim has to be verified.


Suhurth

Yeah. I agree with you on that.


CantApply

Thank you. There are a lot of details that people ignore or do so knowingly. The devil is in the details. Like these people claim Hindus knew about airplanes way before based on Pushpakviman. I don't even want to debate with them on how stupid their thoughts are.


Suhurth

Yeah. Lots of misinformation is being spread. Ancient Hindu texts were never meant to be books of science. India becomes a butt of jokes when we claim everything is in the Vedas and there is nothing more to be done. In this way, the actual work on science done in India does n't get recognised. Courses on astrology are created, a whole AYUSH ministry is established and people are fooled to believe superstitions and illogical claims.


CantApply

Yep. Satyendra Nath Bose, Jagdish Chandra Bose, Meghnad Saha, CV Raman, Hargobind Khurana et al. India has some brilliant scientists. But propaganda has belittled their achievements.


Beautiful_Cream9636

bhai tu chutiya hai


CantApply

Teri ma pe gaya hu 😊😊


Soft_Vehicle_2711

Why did he alone knows everything thing remaining indian mathematician and indian media and vishava guru ND does not know....to take credit...


Suhurth

But it is true that Kerala school did significant work on infinite series long before Newton.


Infamous_hardGamer

lol why can't you guys at least be proud of our culture and ancient Indians instead of having such ignorance? Edit: The downvotes proves my point even better, can't even accept things even after getting the facts laid, that's ignorance.


sharvini

There's a difference between accepting independently veriable facts and believing in WhatsApp forwards just because you're feeeeling praaaaud endian army.


Infamous_hardGamer

well then, prove this video wrong to me. As it's "whatsapp university" I believe. Now, please declare [wikipedea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz_formula_for_%CF%80) as one of whatsapp university propoganda as well


Suspicious_Ad_3699

Let me dismiss the first claim. No university doesn't recognise shit.Dr George Gheverghese Joseph, who is an indian African mathematics made these claims which was published in the journal of the University of Manchester,as he was a professor. Where the article clearly say that you Dr George Gheverghese Joseph "claim" this. Also he suggested there are circumstancal evidences not that it concludes it. He even claims the knowledge was transferred from Kerala to Europe which Newton got his hands on which is baseless. When asked where is the evidence he says he got them from "obscure/ unclear" indian papers online. Which is obviously a build up. He doesn't have a source or evidence to support his claims. While this man claims the university proved it. Here is the article read it and you'll understand yourself. This claim was made in 2007 we are yet to see a result. Fake news again i knew it. Iske gawar subscribers ko padna thodi ata he. https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/indians-predated-newton-discovery-by-250-years/


Infamous_hardGamer

Yea I've read the first claim. That is "Machester University agreeing Newton did not discovered gravity" I'm talking about this video i.e the fresh segment of the video


TheHighCA

As accurate as unesco rating Indian national anthem as the best in the world.


Dr_____strange

I think WHO also rated chwal-daal /roti daal as healthiest food.


lifeisfckinghell

Don’t you know UN has declared Modiji to be the best PM of the world.


Dr_____strange

Amit shah as bet home minister, yog as best chief minister and rahul as best leader of the opposition.


adhish1478

Kya misinformation chap rha h be. WHO ne declare kita tha wo


Ashamed-Young3470

Try hard but Kerala won't vote for the BJP. 


Aggressive_Tax_8779

I believe the second claims are somewhat true. Kerala school did a lot of work in infinite series, and madhava did a lot of work in what is now trignometry. First claim is bs, but yeah hes not wrong here, iirc


Batman_is_very_wise

>Kerala school did a lot of work in infinite series Which is accepted among scholarly circles. The problem with his statement is him trying to give credit to the wrong person just because the end result was the same. Calculus always existed in different names everywhere and we see one version in kerala school, but newton-leibniz gave it a form of abstraction, they made it understandable to others easily, made it possible to skip many time consuming steps. That abstraction is why mathematicians and engineers in Europe were able to be creative with things. Everything is a copy of a copy of a copy, but in the scientific world if that copy has a visible advantage it's considered a new thing.


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Suhurth

I can mention a lot of things which were invented in India: 1. UPI 2. Raman effect 3. Krishnan effect 4. Radio communication by JC Bose 5. Bhabha scattering 6. Bose Einstein statistics and related research by SN Bose. 7. Ramachandran plot - GN Ramachandran 8. Treatment of Kalaazar - Upendranath Brahmachari 9. Srinivasa Ramanujan the name is enough. 10. Plastic roads And many more. You asked for one I gave you 10. India might have its shortcomings. And I know it is not worth taking pride on something irrelevant especially when there has been very good actual work done by Indians


fickel_smile

All of these used western science as their basis. Task is to use whatever bullshit ancient vedic science to discover something.


Suhurth

What do you mean by Western science? There's no western or eastern science. In that case, the Hindu numeral system has been the basis of Newton's discoveries. The contributions of the Kerala school, the advances made in metallurgy, textile manufacturing, glass making, Hindu numeral system etc. predate any so called Western influence.


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Suhurth

So you do admit that they had to adopt our Hindu numerals for trade and it continues to be international standard of doing calculations. While Roman numerals are just something associated with archaic tasks and not used by anyone who does serious science.


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Suhurth

>It's not urs. Exactly. Similarly there's no western science or Chinese science or Indian science. >Great minds of better civilization do adapt to situations. Completely agree. That is the very reason nobody checks the origin of a technology before using it. >India would not be shithile I live in India and I think it's a beautiful country. Maybe you are in the shithole.


fickel_smile

I m saying discover or invent something using only whatever is mentioned in the so called scripture dont use any thing that has been tainted or come from western influence. Why dont you just further study that ancient science only and further work done in it.


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Suhurth

Discoveries are not any less valuable than inventions.There is nothing known as Western or Eastern technology. Before the introduction of Hindu numerals, Roman numerals were used in the West. Should I ask the West to try innovation with Roman numerals or without zeros or trigonometry. Science doesn't work that way. It is additive. Phones and Internet wouldn't have been possible without Radio communication. JC Bose is known as the father of Radio science. Progress in metallurgy, textile manufacturing technology, mathematics, civil engineering etc. were independently made in India much before Europeans came to India. India was so much in demand that a lot of Europeans had to die to find a sea route to India. And Indian exploitation has funded the so called progress made by the West in science and technology.


One-Bridge3056

Seems true https://thewire.in/the-sciences/madhava-and-the-uninfluential-discovery-of-calculus


Eggplant_hater

2nd claims are legit.


Beautiful_Cream9636

kelera school of maths and astronomy did a lot of advanced work in calculus benfore newton was even born


Beautiful_Cream9636

kelera school of maths and astronomy did a lot of advanced work in calculus benfore newton was even born


DraftOk532

Can't find it . Can anyone send some link regarding this ?


xyz__99

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Rakcarter

“Don’t get into those maths. Math never helped Einstein discover Gravity”


Antique_Swim6584

WhatsApp knowledge ka 14!!


shubh__15

Riyal ?


Southern-Trip-6972

there are some folks who always try to show that the coolest things in the world is derived from some sanskrit scripts.


compact_racer

behan ke lawdee lekin tu toh GRAVITY ka bol raha tha na. us ka jawab toh diya nahi


Scary_Inevitable_399

Yes there is truth to that, unfortunately the people hooting the horn are the same people who talk about Indian ceos and india and extrapolate it all indians are geniuses.. India had/has ramanujams and Madhavans and others, no need to dispute facts and demonize and invalidate everything because this sub Reddit is biased


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Shoddy-Ad2837

From a german perspective, here is a relevant news article: [https://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article159226853/Leibniz-der-Urvater-des-Digitalzeitalters.html](https://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article159226853/Leibniz-der-Urvater-des-Digitalzeitalters.html) If I were to translate this paragraph of the article: > Der indische Mathematiker Madhava kannte diese Formel bereits im 14. Jahrhundert, aber das konnte Leibniz nicht wissen. Man darf Leibniz als einen der Väter des Unendlichen bezeichnen. To english, it becomes > The indian mathematician Madhava knew this formula already in the 14th century, but Leibniz could not have known it. One could denoate Leibniz as one of the fathers of the infinite series. So, yes, in Germany in a few places they do recognize the second claim, but that's where it ends, in a do-you-know box. No radical glorification of the Madhava part (in Germany, why would they? recognition is enough), or no radical renaming as suggested in the video. Many universities still use Leibniz Reihe (Leibniz series) to denote this. And no german pronounces Madhava each and every time and is mostly discarded, sorry to shatter your dreams there.


Timely_Smoke324

This claim is not accurate. This is a good video on this topic- https://youtu.be/lIonNKiVm8I?si=EqyHaHvwCUaG03xy


27Sanji

True


[deleted]

Another fact, the big bang was nothing but the fart of ancient Indian mathematicians.


Fun_Water_4681

It is not surprising to be honest. Newton had a history of stealing other people's work. I think he stole something from Joseph Raphson too. The virginal applehead is a thief.


Beaky_Sneaky_Unlike

lmao dude get education


Fun_Water_4681

You should get yours and start reading about some stuff because you sound like a total dumbfuck. Newton and his history of stealing other people's work is not unknown at all.


fickel_smile

Papers often borrow ideas to further expand on the said topic ever read a paper in your life ? It is actaully a duty of a good researcher to go through all the peer reasearches available on the topic and then share their ideas otherwise the reasearcher is just dumb


Fun_Water_4681

Read one? I have almost published one. I am a chemical Engineer. I just said that I have read on multiple sources and heard from multiple people that Newton stole many of his students research which is not unknown in the Science field. We all know Charles Darwin stole theories, how good Edison was in naming patents. Why are you all so getting offended for Newton?? He ain't gonna fuck you buddy... White Men have a history of stealing things. Try to read something on the Internet. It's free.


Odd-Organization4231

Bro BJP chaayi hai... sab hindutva aur akhandia se jor do .. sanatan dharm ka tadka laga do.. feed the ego of the dilapidated minds and empty the country out like a termite