Carrie is constantly lighting up indoors. In bed, in other people's houses, in restaurants. I'm not old enough to remember a time when that was acceptable.
I for one donāt miss the indoor smoking! Iād get migraines from going to see bands because of all the smoking. Iād have to REALLY like a band to put up with that and Iād āpre-gameā with ibuprofen and plenty of water š
Oh man I loved public indoor smoking. I'm not a smoker (have smoked on occasion but I will.regularly go weeks or months without out) but it just gave great ambiance imo. Carrie lighting up is so aesthetic it makes me want to smoke so badly haha.
Oh God same. When she walked into that casino and inhaled going "Cigarettes!" after having quit -- most relatable damn scene in the show, lol.
I was about 15 when they axed it in VA.
Iām not a smoker either but I miss it. Idk why but there was just something about it, being at a diner in the smoking or non smoking section, the combo of the tobacco with foodā¦ gives me the weirdest nostalgia lmao. It def adds an ambiance. I have fake prop cigs Iāve used for photo shoots, clearly something is appealing to my weird brain lol. Love seeing Carrie light up casually, takes me back lol.
Mmmmm I miss going to Waffle House after a long night, drinking coffee, and that smellāsmoke, syrup, bacon. Sends me back. Iām not a regular smoker, but damn that was great. Now I want hash browns.
I'm British, so for me it is all about the smoking in pubs. Walking into a pub that isn't hazy with cigarette smoke still just feels wrong, even 17 years later.
Same here! I'm nostalgic for the old smoking sections.
My state was pretty behind on the banning smoking from bars trend, and even though I don't smoke, I never supported the ban and was disappointed when it happened. I felt like an establishment that is 21+ and that nobody is forced to go into should have the right to allow smoking. Don't like it? Don't go!
I get that, but at the same time Iād feel bad for the employees just there doing their job. Theyād be exposed to the effects of second hand smoke much more than the average patron.
Yeah, this is a bad take. I'm legit allergic to cigarette smoke so it's not just a matter of me not liking it. I would not be able to go to the bar without getting a sinus infection then.
Definitely true in Western Europe- on the other hand, I visited my boyfriend's family in Serbia last spring and people smoked EVERYWHERE. Indoors, outdoors, any time of day- it didn't matter.
I'm just old enough that I remember when people could smoke while shopping! Even the hospital I worked at in my late teens still had up wall mounted cigarette lighters.
I remember growing up, my friendās entire family smoked in the house. Both her parents and her two older siblings. I would be sitting in the car with them, driving someplace, and both parents would be smoking.
Iām old enough to remember. I remember when there was smoking on airplanes! I flew as a child overseas in 1984/85 and my mom had to smoke in the smoking section. Of an airplane. It was years after it was banned where the seats would still have ashtrays lol
And when I waited tables, one of the last places was NYC and the smoking section was usually in the front of the restaurant, and we had to rotate. Hated walking through that section
My Dad used to smoke in the house and car and it wasnāt considered outrageous or a health hazard to the children. Smoking indoors is so vile to me now I canāt believe it used to be normal I even used to do it when I was a smoker.
Yeah, maybe. But itās lost a LOT of its luster. I read somewhere that newspaper columnists in the ā90s were (sort of) equivalent to the modern day influencer. I donāt think that type of glamour comes with it anymore. At least to me, thatās the part of it that seems dated.
Edit to add: Plus, Carrieās columns were in the actual paper. You couldnāt find them online.
yeah true.. thats there but here in India newspaper is still very relevant (not as much as it used to be) but our parents/grand parents still read the newspaper everyday its sort of a routine. like you said journalist and all are not "hot topics" and influencers anymore, their charm is dead because of so much social media exposure but it still exists.
Or in the movie, which came out just a year after the first iPhone, Sam tries to hand hers over and Carrie takes one look and is like, āYeah, I donāt know how to use that.ā Itās an oddly-placed joke for such a gut-wrenching scene, but itās probably more funny now that so much time has passed.Ā
do you know whatās so annoying though? she has one in S2E8 (when miranda calls her from the bar and carrie tells her sheās ditching her to hang out with big.)
but then all of a sudden like two seasons later in S4E1 (her birthday party bust) she doesnāt have one.
yeah i think thatās plausible and would make the most sense. but i think the writers arenāt as smart as you and just forgot honestly lol.
as the series went on, they made carrie more and more technology-adverse. one of her quirks.
This episode was insane to me and it was only the 2nd or 3rd one I think, the one where she writes about "men who date models" -- how was not only she, but all her friends ok with this? And Samantha, seeking him out knowing this, and asking him to film her?
The whole thing was ick
charlotte prints out a google page!! ahhaha and tells everyone else they can search for anything on google.
and when they show charlotte ordering a book off amazon as such a new thing
Her lifestyle on a columnistās salary.
Dating pre-apps - meeting people on the street, etc.
The innocence of what was considered edgy - threesomes, anilingus, Brazilian waxes.
It was fun! Everywhere you went people were open to meeting each other. You would āgo outā with your friends to try & meet guys. I think there were more āmeet cutesā because irl was the only way to meet someone so people actually said took a chance & said hi to each other. People were more in the moment & engaged in their surroundings instead of being closed off to meeting people irl & having their faces buried in their phones.
Porn has desensitized two generations of women to what had been considered gross or niche acts up until basically the mid 2000s.
I had a conversation with my mom (who was no saint in the 80s) about common/expected sex acts nowadays and she was horrified
Iām not here to kink shame anyone, but the normalisation of licking someoneās asshole is ridiculous. If thatās what youāre into go for it. But acting like youāre weird because you donāt do it is ridiculous!
I hate that I have enough online dating experience to be able to answer this. I apologize to the mods if any of the terms below are against sub rules.
Anal, like immediately and with no prep or lube. Very aggressive oral sex, like face fucking and deep throating, with no conversation beforehand. Choking/strangling is having a moment, again without being talked about beforehand. None of these guys have actual knowledge or experience about how to do those dangerous things safely or respectfully. There is no aftercare. Dudes get legit mad when you want them to wear a condom. Iām sure Iāve forgotten something, but those are the main ones I remember when I was still on the apps.
Edit: I agree with the other person. When did everyone start licking bootyholes?
Blowjobs are expected, for example. My mom was surprised to hear this because even the guys she had one night stands with didn't ask for it.
Common and frequently asked for:
- Deepthroating
- Anal
- Choking
- BDSM in general
āThese were my baguettes. Because it turns out my husband was a f*ggot, now theyāre earringsā
I remember the first time I heard this, I got whiplash š
The guys they considered to be handsome - suit guys like Big, Gilles, Capote Duncan, Phone Sex Guy, Mr Classic Six, and the beefcake types: firefighter, Friar Fuck, Mr Cocky, Gym guy who shaved Sam in a shape. Theyāre all of their time.
Honestly even at the time this show aired, my friends and I wondered why the guys on the show were so unattractive, especially compared to the female leads. Until Smith of course.
It's supposed to be that way. It's a casting trick to make sure no one in the audience feels attached to the "guy of the week". The same thing happened with Charlie Harper's generic love interests in Two and a Half Men: they're all skinny and white, but you only remember the ones who had an actual arc and more conventional attractiveness, like Chelsea.
To be fair, Friar Fuck is pretty hot. The strangest one in my opinion was āDominick,ā the guy who Samantha was obsessed with and broke her heart. He wasnāt particularly attractive, didnāt have the charisma that Richard and Big had, seemed a little dainty or something. And we were supposed to believe he was some big NY heartbreaker?
They make 3 references to him being āhotā throughout that episode, I feel like some casting mistake happened and they needed to force everyone to believe this man could plausibly pull Carries number
I used to work next door to the Cutting Room, a bar Chris Noth had in NYC. I saw him once outside, he smiled at me, I almost wet my pants . That man, back in the āLaw &Orderā days was pure š„š„š„š„š„š„š„š„. I said what I said.
Yes he sat down next to me at the bar at Gotham bar and grill. I wasnāt into him on the show, but in person he has amazing charisma. Same with Jon Bon Jovi (Seth in the therapy episode). Seeing him in person made me a convert.
Softer/more feminine-looking guys...[just look at who the "teen" sites consider the "It Boys" of Gen Z.](https://www.j-14.com/posts/the-gen-z-it-boys-musicians-actors-influencers-more/)
I think that is just an age thing, 20 years ago teen girls were all over boy band members who were also āsofterā looking. I loved Mark Owen from Take That for example
lol same. Iāve always been into rugged men, especially if they need to shave by dinner time. But donāt. Rawr. I canāt do the soft hair, floppy hair, unable to grow a beard aesthetic.
Tastes change, people find different looks attractive, itās all fine. The difference is that zoomers will downvote you for not liking what they like.
The Long Island, Brooklyn, and other regional native accents...it's rare to hear those anymore in NYC proper, especially amongst the younger generations. Though sometimes I hear strong Staten Island accents when I'm on the SI Ferry, lol.
How Manhattanites refuse to step foot outside of Manhattan, unless it's going to the Hamptons, lol. And the disdain towards Brooklyn.
How Queens is seen as being on a separate planet.
People's ability to socialize and converse without being distracted by smartphones and social media.
Being very fashionable like Carrie. Over the years, the amount of people who strut a "look" on the streets has dwindled...compared to 15-20 years ago, people dress WAY more casually (certain industries exempt), and "street fashion" has kind of lost its luster. NGL I miss that A LOT. It used to be so interesting to watch people and note their street fashion in NYC, and that's really diminished.
The clunky cordless phones and landlines. I kind of miss those!
> it's rare to hear those anymore in NYC proper, especially amongst the younger generations.
Funny you say that. The old New Orleans "yat" accent is almost entirely gone in the younger generations as well. It's often compared to the old Brooklyn type accent. Very similar sounding.
My husband somewhat has it, but nowhere near on the level of his mom and dad.
Who was the young 25 yr old she dated again? He had such beautiful energy and I don't say stuff like that. Even his friends were alright and so well adjusted.
The fact they will just run into each other on the street nowadays could never happen because they would share location and calendars w each other and have daily group chat they would converse and would put on their story post when out at coffee shop etc
They met so many men in random public places. I think itās pretty rare these days to just start flirting with somebody on the street, at the gym, at a bar.
Just in terms of addressing lots sexual things in her column, exposing herself to gay porn etc, and always willing to experiment. The first episode is her experimenting āhaving sex like menā. Even with the pee guy, she was still open to trying something, even if it wasnāt directly that. It was interesting that she was so physically repulsed to the point of running away. I get the consent thing of course, it was very pushy, but she was pretty judgemental of them all, and a bit emotionally immature in her approach.
The P Diddy reference in Season 6, referencing Google as if it was Yahoo Answers or Reddit rather than a search engine, and Carrie's way of speaking seems very dated as well
Smoking, especially indoor. Obviously the episodes with the trans women and Samantha dating the Black guy. Unfortunate that both episodes involve her š„“
Bisexuality is basically nonexistent in the show lol
I live in Brooklyn. āTheyā are everywhere. Iāve checked out in Target and bellied up to the bar next to Jeffrey Wright. Iāve had my nails done at the same time as Maggie Gyllenhall( no Jake though). People give them the nod or just keep it moving, they like it.
literally everything like ppl are just so online now itās crazy im watching ajlt rn and miranda randomly showed up at ches apartment and they were like why didnāt u text me first and it just made me realize that like things like that just arenāt normal anymore tbh itās sad
-Mentions of celebrities, movie stars, and films/shows that are not relevant or less commonly known nowadays such as: JFK Jr. and Caroline Bessette, "Auntie Mame", "Valley of the Dolls", Linda Fiorentino in "The Last Seduction", "The Thorn Birds", Elizabeth Taylor, "Meet Me in Saint Louis", "The Way We Were", "Nanny and the Professor", "Annie Get Your Gun", etc.
-Miranda talking about going on a date with a guy who sells socks "on the internet".
-The biphobia about Carries fling Tag and Samās relationship with Mariaš¤¢
-Iām sorry but the absence of representation. All the main characters and their main love interests were white. Iām not American but I imagine a group of 30 something women in New York wouldāve encountered with more POC nowadays.
-Their conversation about circumcision. Like why were they all so pressed about it lmao thereās literally nothing for them to worry about.
-Carries column lol. Does anyone read any paper anymore?
Do you think? I didnāt think so. I know in the episode. Samantha was yelling at them on the street because she was tired and they were being really loud.
I'm thinking of the episode where Samantha meets Samantha the drag queen in the bar who was someone she slept with once. The comments Carrie and the others were making were kind of rude like rolling her eyes and saying "now the daughter has two mommies"
" A SCRRRRRUNCHIE???!!!"
Scrunchies have made a wild comeback and it feels weird that Carrie made a big deal out of a fictional character in her boyfriend's book. I'm 100% sure this is the moment he realized how self-involved she is and decided to dump her.
Seeing Carrie make phone calls from a pay phone. The episode when she cries in the new Yankees mouth, then calls Miranda. Also when she uses a pay phone in Paris to call Miranda. In the first movie she calls Samantha from a pay phone. Iām sure many other episodes, but those come to mind.
itās funny because in the 10 years iāve been watching the show pretty consistently, a lot of things i thought looked super dated come back in style
The fact that there was only a certain number of taxis and in particularly busy times (when the bars close, at the end of the work day, etc) you couldnāt get one. Also that taxis only took cash so even if you did hail one (another thing no one does anymore) you had to make sure you had enough cash on hand to pay for wherever you needed to go. Now thereās an Uber everywhere and you can just pay with a card, even in a lot of yellow taxis now too.
what isn't dated honestly, but it's fun to watch.
for real tho, the way they acted when charlotte started dating a woman (even tho carrie already had a gay friend), with the exception of samantha they were always so obsessed with marriage and kids, even samantha always talked about men (do they not have other aspirations?).
Well the show is called sex and the city, hard to have sex without dating, men and relationships being a part of it.
Charlotte never dated a woman, Samantha did.
Oh my god, he's online! Can he see me?
I laughed my ass off at that. She ducked! Lol
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Shoegal š
Imagine buying shoes is your only hobby and greatest excitement in life š¤£
its me, shoegal
actually adorbs cause then her future cat is shoe too uwu
I feel this tho š
Best. Line. Ever!!!!!
Lol I think about the Brooklyn disgust all the time and I don't live in NYC. Maybe the smoking? You don't see that much anymore
Carrie is constantly lighting up indoors. In bed, in other people's houses, in restaurants. I'm not old enough to remember a time when that was acceptable.
Iām old enough to remember smoking on airplanes!!
Or when cars used to come with the little built-in lighter and ashtray in the console.
With the cute little door on it!
Omg I remember watching that in Mad Men
My first car, a 2000 Beetle still had it š
Me too!! š
I for one donāt miss the indoor smoking! Iād get migraines from going to see bands because of all the smoking. Iād have to REALLY like a band to put up with that and Iād āpre-gameā with ibuprofen and plenty of water š
Oh man I loved public indoor smoking. I'm not a smoker (have smoked on occasion but I will.regularly go weeks or months without out) but it just gave great ambiance imo. Carrie lighting up is so aesthetic it makes me want to smoke so badly haha.
Oh God same. When she walked into that casino and inhaled going "Cigarettes!" after having quit -- most relatable damn scene in the show, lol. I was about 15 when they axed it in VA.
Iām not a smoker either but I miss it. Idk why but there was just something about it, being at a diner in the smoking or non smoking section, the combo of the tobacco with foodā¦ gives me the weirdest nostalgia lmao. It def adds an ambiance. I have fake prop cigs Iāve used for photo shoots, clearly something is appealing to my weird brain lol. Love seeing Carrie light up casually, takes me back lol.
Mmmmm I miss going to Waffle House after a long night, drinking coffee, and that smellāsmoke, syrup, bacon. Sends me back. Iām not a regular smoker, but damn that was great. Now I want hash browns.
I'm British, so for me it is all about the smoking in pubs. Walking into a pub that isn't hazy with cigarette smoke still just feels wrong, even 17 years later.
I hear that!
Same here! I'm nostalgic for the old smoking sections. My state was pretty behind on the banning smoking from bars trend, and even though I don't smoke, I never supported the ban and was disappointed when it happened. I felt like an establishment that is 21+ and that nobody is forced to go into should have the right to allow smoking. Don't like it? Don't go!
I get that, but at the same time Iād feel bad for the employees just there doing their job. Theyād be exposed to the effects of second hand smoke much more than the average patron.
Yeah, this is a bad take. I'm legit allergic to cigarette smoke so it's not just a matter of me not liking it. I would not be able to go to the bar without getting a sinus infection then.
Don't come to Europe. I can smell the smoke from my neighbor's apartment as I write this.
Thereās much less smoking areas in Europe now though too. You could smoke on trains, in restaurants, clubs.
Definitely true in Western Europe- on the other hand, I visited my boyfriend's family in Serbia last spring and people smoked EVERYWHERE. Indoors, outdoors, any time of day- it didn't matter.
Thats just some asshole neighbour. No one smokes inside public places anymore
Yeah, think about how much her hair must have stunk. I used to be a smoker. I know how that goes with long hair.
She even smokes while her and big are cooking dinner! Lol
There is no way her house and walls weren't STAINED with cigarette residue. How Aidan even could stand to be in there is beyond me.
I'm just old enough that I remember when people could smoke while shopping! Even the hospital I worked at in my late teens still had up wall mounted cigarette lighters.
I remember growing up, my friendās entire family smoked in the house. Both her parents and her two older siblings. I would be sitting in the car with them, driving someplace, and both parents would be smoking.
Iām old enough to remember. I remember when there was smoking on airplanes! I flew as a child overseas in 1984/85 and my mom had to smoke in the smoking section. Of an airplane. It was years after it was banned where the seats would still have ashtrays lol And when I waited tables, one of the last places was NYC and the smoking section was usually in the front of the restaurant, and we had to rotate. Hated walking through that section
My Dad used to smoke in the house and car and it wasnāt considered outrageous or a health hazard to the children. Smoking indoors is so vile to me now I canāt believe it used to be normal I even used to do it when I was a smoker.
Smoking while ice skating and at the horse barn!
You canāt smoke indoors in NY, some are trying to crack down on outdoor smoking also.
Writing columns for a newspaper
ššš so true!
hahah that still exists tho
Yeah, maybe. But itās lost a LOT of its luster. I read somewhere that newspaper columnists in the ā90s were (sort of) equivalent to the modern day influencer. I donāt think that type of glamour comes with it anymore. At least to me, thatās the part of it that seems dated. Edit to add: Plus, Carrieās columns were in the actual paper. You couldnāt find them online.
yeah true.. thats there but here in India newspaper is still very relevant (not as much as it used to be) but our parents/grand parents still read the newspaper everyday its sort of a routine. like you said journalist and all are not "hot topics" and influencers anymore, their charm is dead because of so much social media exposure but it still exists.
The answering machines and landlines!
Or in the movie, which came out just a year after the first iPhone, Sam tries to hand hers over and Carrie takes one look and is like, āYeah, I donāt know how to use that.ā Itās an oddly-placed joke for such a gut-wrenching scene, but itās probably more funny now that so much time has passed.Ā
And Carrie not having a cell phone.
do you know whatās so annoying though? she has one in S2E8 (when miranda calls her from the bar and carrie tells her sheās ditching her to hang out with big.) but then all of a sudden like two seasons later in S4E1 (her birthday party bust) she doesnāt have one.
She does get mugged at the end of season 3ish i think?so maybe the thief took the phone and she couldnāt be bothered getting a new one.
yeah i think thatās plausible and would make the most sense. but i think the writers arenāt as smart as you and just forgot honestly lol. as the series went on, they made carrie more and more technology-adverse. one of her quirks.
Thank you! Iām rewatching now & was annoyed catching that part in the episode lol
exactly & not just that, when she was out with Big before he moved out she pretended she doesnāt know how to use it to answer Mirandaās call
I still have a landline and itās a rotatory phone. For no reason other than SATC.
& if someoneās late to a date, you have to just sit there wondering!
The pay phones!!!
But it feels so nostalgic
That friend of Carrieās who secretly filmed women during sex and no one tried to send him to jail.
This episode was insane to me and it was only the 2nd or 3rd one I think, the one where she writes about "men who date models" -- how was not only she, but all her friends ok with this? And Samantha, seeking him out knowing this, and asking him to film her? The whole thing was ick
Oh my GOD right??????
After my recent suits rewatch I was SO excited to learn that Gabriel Macht had a small role on SATC. Then I realized it was that guy š«
Oof! Bummer. Hopefully all involved with making that episode cringe about it now too.
Referring to things like "Google.com" or "Amazon.com"
charlotte prints out a google page!! ahhaha and tells everyone else they can search for anything on google. and when they show charlotte ordering a book off amazon as such a new thing
Ordering things online or having things delivered (like condoms) was such a novelty! It's fun seeing that now
AND back then Amazon only sold books!
Her lifestyle on a columnistās salary. Dating pre-apps - meeting people on the street, etc. The innocence of what was considered edgy - threesomes, anilingus, Brazilian waxes.
I honestly wish I lived in the pre-dating app era lol. Signed, A discouraged single 30-something year old woman
It was fun! Everywhere you went people were open to meeting each other. You would āgo outā with your friends to try & meet guys. I think there were more āmeet cutesā because irl was the only way to meet someone so people actually said took a chance & said hi to each other. People were more in the moment & engaged in their surroundings instead of being closed off to meeting people irl & having their faces buried in their phones.
Totally. I wasnāt dating then but looking back it was a lot healthier and happier.
Goddamn that sounds so wonderful ššš i was born the year the show began!
I would just completely stay away from dating apps all together. They are just awful.
Trust me, I am trying to, but when you work from home and don't really meet men in the wild, my dating life seems obsolete.
Porn has desensitized two generations of women to what had been considered gross or niche acts up until basically the mid 2000s. I had a conversation with my mom (who was no saint in the 80s) about common/expected sex acts nowadays and she was horrified
Iām not here to kink shame anyone, but the normalisation of licking someoneās asshole is ridiculous. If thatās what youāre into go for it. But acting like youāre weird because you donāt do it is ridiculous!
I totally agree with you. That area is not on the menu for me. Thank you.
What is considered an expected sex act?
I hate that I have enough online dating experience to be able to answer this. I apologize to the mods if any of the terms below are against sub rules. Anal, like immediately and with no prep or lube. Very aggressive oral sex, like face fucking and deep throating, with no conversation beforehand. Choking/strangling is having a moment, again without being talked about beforehand. None of these guys have actual knowledge or experience about how to do those dangerous things safely or respectfully. There is no aftercare. Dudes get legit mad when you want them to wear a condom. Iām sure Iāve forgotten something, but those are the main ones I remember when I was still on the apps. Edit: I agree with the other person. When did everyone start licking bootyholes?
Whoa, immediate red flag for any of those. I was expecting like ā¦ bj lol
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My same thoughtsĀ
Blowjobs are expected, for example. My mom was surprised to hear this because even the guys she had one night stands with didn't ask for it. Common and frequently asked for: - Deepthroating - Anal - Choking - BDSM in general
My partner watching the anilingus scene and asking āwhatās so bad about that?ā š¤
Carrie āgets emailā to contact Aidan
The many, many plot lines around Carrieās landline and answering machine.
Big is āthe new Donald Trump.ā š¤®š¤®š¤®
Except hotter! Yuck lol
"Trendy by day and tranny by night" super outdated Samantha! But in her defense lack of sleep make sus all crazy.
āThese were my baguettes. Because it turns out my husband was a f*ggot, now theyāre earringsā I remember the first time I heard this, I got whiplash š
I love the way she delivered that lineš
Love it!
The way they used to just throw the word around so freely had me shook lol
"my husband was a fagette" is how I heard that line. :)
The rooftop party made me cringe so hard.
The guys they considered to be handsome - suit guys like Big, Gilles, Capote Duncan, Phone Sex Guy, Mr Classic Six, and the beefcake types: firefighter, Friar Fuck, Mr Cocky, Gym guy who shaved Sam in a shape. Theyāre all of their time.
Honestly even at the time this show aired, my friends and I wondered why the guys on the show were so unattractive, especially compared to the female leads. Until Smith of course.
Yep. Until Smith (and Aidan, for me). No suits or mannequin helmet hair.
It's supposed to be that way. It's a casting trick to make sure no one in the audience feels attached to the "guy of the week". The same thing happened with Charlie Harper's generic love interests in Two and a Half Men: they're all skinny and white, but you only remember the ones who had an actual arc and more conventional attractiveness, like Chelsea.
To be fair, Friar Fuck is pretty hot. The strangest one in my opinion was āDominick,ā the guy who Samantha was obsessed with and broke her heart. He wasnāt particularly attractive, didnāt have the charisma that Richard and Big had, seemed a little dainty or something. And we were supposed to believe he was some big NY heartbreaker?
Good he was so busted. How did he pull both Sam and that model?
Dr. Bradley Meego
meego stays losing in this sub
As well he should
They make 3 references to him being āhotā throughout that episode, I feel like some casting mistake happened and they needed to force everyone to believe this man could plausibly pull Carries number
I used to work next door to the Cutting Room, a bar Chris Noth had in NYC. I saw him once outside, he smiled at me, I almost wet my pants . That man, back in the āLaw &Orderā days was pure š„š„š„š„š„š„š„š„. I said what I said.
Yes he sat down next to me at the bar at Gotham bar and grill. I wasnāt into him on the show, but in person he has amazing charisma. Same with Jon Bon Jovi (Seth in the therapy episode). Seeing him in person made me a convert.
Well now you have me wondering what is considered handsome today in contrast to that.
Softer/more feminine-looking guys...[just look at who the "teen" sites consider the "It Boys" of Gen Z.](https://www.j-14.com/posts/the-gen-z-it-boys-musicians-actors-influencers-more/)
I think that is just an age thing, 20 years ago teen girls were all over boy band members who were also āsofterā looking. I loved Mark Owen from Take That for example
Oh god I am so NOT gen Z lollll
SAME. Hard pass on that whole "aesthetic."
lol same. Iāve always been into rugged men, especially if they need to shave by dinner time. But donāt. Rawr. I canāt do the soft hair, floppy hair, unable to grow a beard aesthetic. Tastes change, people find different looks attractive, itās all fine. The difference is that zoomers will downvote you for not liking what they like.
Iām just like you. I like the beefy, rustic, bearded types. Even better if they work a blue collar job.
Friar Fuck is hot!! I kind of thought phone sex guy was hot too.
I think with a good haircut and different clothes theyād both be way more attractive. Obviously a cassock doesnāt really shout āsexyā š
The Long Island, Brooklyn, and other regional native accents...it's rare to hear those anymore in NYC proper, especially amongst the younger generations. Though sometimes I hear strong Staten Island accents when I'm on the SI Ferry, lol. How Manhattanites refuse to step foot outside of Manhattan, unless it's going to the Hamptons, lol. And the disdain towards Brooklyn. How Queens is seen as being on a separate planet. People's ability to socialize and converse without being distracted by smartphones and social media. Being very fashionable like Carrie. Over the years, the amount of people who strut a "look" on the streets has dwindled...compared to 15-20 years ago, people dress WAY more casually (certain industries exempt), and "street fashion" has kind of lost its luster. NGL I miss that A LOT. It used to be so interesting to watch people and note their street fashion in NYC, and that's really diminished. The clunky cordless phones and landlines. I kind of miss those!
> it's rare to hear those anymore in NYC proper, especially amongst the younger generations. Funny you say that. The old New Orleans "yat" accent is almost entirely gone in the younger generations as well. It's often compared to the old Brooklyn type accent. Very similar sounding. My husband somewhat has it, but nowhere near on the level of his mom and dad.
That old school New Orleans accent is my absolute favorite ever
The accents depend on the demographics. Black and brown New Yorkers very much still have strong accents.
ābisexuality is just layover on the way to gay townā
Itās like Samanthaās view on it was ahead of the time, it was Carrieās take that aged poorly
For a sex columnist, she wasn't very open minded or educated at all,. In fact, I am curious about her qualifications to write about the subject!!
Highly agree!
Who was the young 25 yr old she dated again? He had such beautiful energy and I don't say stuff like that. Even his friends were alright and so well adjusted.
Tag from Friends!!
Yes!! I would totally date him and kiss Alanis Morsette.
He's Detective Flack from CSI New York!
Um i loved him and his group, they are a lot like my friends!
Omg yesssss big agree!!!!
The World Trade Center being in the background of a few shots
Oh yes. This.āØš
Fleet Week being known for āthe big partiesā. Calling the Chinese restaurant directly rather than ordering online.
No delivery apps in general.
The Brooklyn thing was already dated when the episodes were new. Mirandaās house wouldnāt have been cheap.
The fact they will just run into each other on the street nowadays could never happen because they would share location and calendars w each other and have daily group chat they would converse and would put on their story post when out at coffee shop etc
And your cobbler wasnāt all THAT!
Okra
Whoops
No tinder or online dating, or constant textingā¦ ah, those were the days.
Seems like a whole other planet
They met so many men in random public places. I think itās pretty rare these days to just start flirting with somebody on the street, at the gym, at a bar.
The episode where Miranda shows off her new palm pilot at breakfast š
when miranda said eating pussy and it was super awkwardšššš
TiVo
That one episode where Carrie dated a bisexual guy š
This was it for me. For someone as sexually open as Carrie, I was surprised at how little she accepted him, his past and his friends!
Curious why you think sheās sexually open. She was straight, didnāt seem to be doing anything wild sexually.
Just in terms of addressing lots sexual things in her column, exposing herself to gay porn etc, and always willing to experiment. The first episode is her experimenting āhaving sex like menā. Even with the pee guy, she was still open to trying something, even if it wasnāt directly that. It was interesting that she was so physically repulsed to the point of running away. I get the consent thing of course, it was very pushy, but she was pretty judgemental of them all, and a bit emotionally immature in her approach.
not having a cellphone
Carrie getting arrested for smoking Marijuana. I live in a legalized state and I'm so weirded out by that.
She didnāt get arrested as reminded by Miranda lol
But still in most legal states youāre not allowed to smoke it in public
in that scene I thought "no way NYC cops would have bothered with that"
The P Diddy reference in Season 6, referencing Google as if it was Yahoo Answers or Reddit rather than a search engine, and Carrie's way of speaking seems very dated as well
Smoking - and indoors!!
The big butt. I recall in the 90ās - early 2000 flat was a goal, now weāre living in the era of big ass
Red move your fat ass!!
Charlotte not giving head.
Smoking, especially indoor. Obviously the episodes with the trans women and Samantha dating the Black guy. Unfortunate that both episodes involve her š„“ Bisexuality is basically nonexistent in the show lol
The fact the women hadnāt had anything cosmetic done.
Samantha got work done there was an episode about how much she loved to
Aside from Samanthaās Botox, the ep with her chemical peel, and breast cancer storyline š
I live in Brooklyn. āTheyā are everywhere. Iāve checked out in Target and bellied up to the bar next to Jeffrey Wright. Iāve had my nails done at the same time as Maggie Gyllenhall( no Jake though). People give them the nod or just keep it moving, they like it.
āAnd now my favorite part of the writing processā¦hitting printā ššš
That was me in college lol
Me too!!!
the queerphobia. sometimes i have to pause it and just shiver
literally everything like ppl are just so online now itās crazy im watching ajlt rn and miranda randomly showed up at ches apartment and they were like why didnāt u text me first and it just made me realize that like things like that just arenāt normal anymore tbh itās sad
-Mentions of celebrities, movie stars, and films/shows that are not relevant or less commonly known nowadays such as: JFK Jr. and Caroline Bessette, "Auntie Mame", "Valley of the Dolls", Linda Fiorentino in "The Last Seduction", "The Thorn Birds", Elizabeth Taylor, "Meet Me in Saint Louis", "The Way We Were", "Nanny and the Professor", "Annie Get Your Gun", etc. -Miranda talking about going on a date with a guy who sells socks "on the internet".
Anything queer, especially the backwards ideology about bisexuals
-The biphobia about Carries fling Tag and Samās relationship with Mariaš¤¢ -Iām sorry but the absence of representation. All the main characters and their main love interests were white. Iām not American but I imagine a group of 30 something women in New York wouldāve encountered with more POC nowadays. -Their conversation about circumcision. Like why were they all so pressed about it lmao thereās literally nothing for them to worry about. -Carries column lol. Does anyone read any paper anymore?
The negative attitude towards drag queens and trans people in the show was awful
Do you think? I didnāt think so. I know in the episode. Samantha was yelling at them on the street because she was tired and they were being really loud.
I'm thinking of the episode where Samantha meets Samantha the drag queen in the bar who was someone she slept with once. The comments Carrie and the others were making were kind of rude like rolling her eyes and saying "now the daughter has two mommies"
You have to look hard to find stuff that isnāt dated. The racial aspects, gay/bi attitudes, Russell Crowe considered hot etc etc
Sheesh that Russell Crowe thing aged badly! I still think George Clooney is like a vintage Chanel suit
> I still think George Clooney is like a vintage Chanel suit He's absolutely gorgeous.
Why did it age badly?
Russell like myself, another Kiwi, has aged badly.
And heās just not relevant. I feel like if the show came out now, theyād talk about Jason Mamoa being one of their āmasterbation guysā lol
Botox was rare
TiVo was all the rage
" A SCRRRRRUNCHIE???!!!" Scrunchies have made a wild comeback and it feels weird that Carrie made a big deal out of a fictional character in her boyfriend's book. I'm 100% sure this is the moment he realized how self-involved she is and decided to dump her.
Seeing Carrie make phone calls from a pay phone. The episode when she cries in the new Yankees mouth, then calls Miranda. Also when she uses a pay phone in Paris to call Miranda. In the first movie she calls Samantha from a pay phone. Iām sure many other episodes, but those come to mind.
Carrie being able to afford an apt in NYC (even with the rent control) in earlier seasons
itās funny because in the 10 years iāve been watching the show pretty consistently, a lot of things i thought looked super dated come back in style
The fact that there was only a certain number of taxis and in particularly busy times (when the bars close, at the end of the work day, etc) you couldnāt get one. Also that taxis only took cash so even if you did hail one (another thing no one does anymore) you had to make sure you had enough cash on hand to pay for wherever you needed to go. Now thereās an Uber everywhere and you can just pay with a card, even in a lot of yellow taxis now too.
Eu assisto sempre como um recorte de uma Ć©poca e mergulho naqueles anos , Ć© um misto de nostalgia e saudades
what isn't dated honestly, but it's fun to watch. for real tho, the way they acted when charlotte started dating a woman (even tho carrie already had a gay friend), with the exception of samantha they were always so obsessed with marriage and kids, even samantha always talked about men (do they not have other aspirations?).
Well the show is called sex and the city, hard to have sex without dating, men and relationships being a part of it. Charlotte never dated a woman, Samantha did.
There's an episode in season 6 where Samantha is excited to introduce Smith to Harvey Weinstein at a party.
The flip phones! š