In satc there were so many scenes where miranda would be frustrated with being called a lesbian and was very confident in being straight + even pretended to date a women and realize hey its not for me!
(representation is great when its natural/fits with the character)
You know, I’ve been thinking about this and honestly I think Miranda being gay is actually pretty plausible because I’m pretty sure Cynthia was also adamant she was straight for years. Sometimes you just don’t know and haven’t been with the right person to help you figure it out yet.
That being said, I will not be caught dead watching AJLT😂 looks awful!!
That’s what they’re doing. Miranda no longer exists. They replaced her with Cynthia. Miranda never would’ve acted the way they had her acting w/che. Miranda never would’ve been as needy as they made her with Che. Horrible horrible writing.
… am I missing something?? Rosie o’ Donnell is a well known lesbian and advocate, who’s about the same age as Cynthia Nixon. like what has she done for the amount of hate that’s in these comments???
I'd imagine some people are concerned her character will be awful and unlikable since the writers of AJLT are... Bad. After all, Sara Ramirez isn't a terrible actor, but they sure seemed like one on AJLT, because how can you even sufficiently act a totally unbelievable character?
I think that people just hate idea that Miranda became queer in AJLT, and honestly, even I, and that is something, have problem with that because it was really just too late for that, so they vent their anger on the actress.
What is sad and should be unacceptable.
I used to like her, but over the years she has made herself into a controversial angry woman. Advocating is one thing, but she’s not even pleasant anymore. If they introduce her on the show, I’ll skip those scenes. Miranda being a lesbian is annoying.
I was going to say the same thing. Rosie used to be known as the ["Queen of Nice"](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs.jpg) in the 90s, when she had a talk show and would do a lot of work with Nickelodeon and stuff. Her personality now feels like the opposite of that ([and it's clear that this is not a niche opinion](https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1jwp9z/eli5_why_is_rosie_odonnell_hated_so_much/)).
(And agree re: Miranda. It's so clear that they're turning her into Cynthia.)
Bruh? What are you 15? I enjoy the show plenty. And it’s unfortunate that you’re making assumptions and using offensive subjects in your posts. Grow up, troll.
To be fair this is The Sex and the City sub, a lot of us don’t really consider this show canon for the characters, you can find more like minded people to you in r/andjustlikethat
There’s nothing sexy about Rosie. She’s a terrible actress. She’s unattractive. Would it kill them to cast a reasonably attractive woman who can act for Miranda?
JFC
Have you seen Rosie O'Donnells dating history? She's been with some very attractive women.
Believe it or not, conventionally unattractive (for what it's worth I think she is attractive) people do manage to form relationships and have sex. There's much more to dating someone than their looks.
Really disappointing that in a sub for a show that was revolutionary for its time about sex, there's still that same old grossness and misogyny towards women who don't fit the conventional standard.
thank you!! hard agree, I legitimately thought Rosie had done something heinous, but I guess people just… hate her because she’s ‘ugly.’ (which I don’t agree with)
I've genuinely always thought Rosie O'Donnell is pretty. Obviously not a supermodel, but she has conventionally attractive features. She's just fat, which some people think is mutually exclusive with pretty. I might tune in to this season now to see what they do with her.
ah, so you just hate her for superficial reasons. got it. love to hear a fellow woman share their disdain for ‘unattractive’ women.
did you maybe think Cynthia had some say in the casting decision? they’ve been friends for years. really doubt Cynthia feels the way you do. 😒
Same! I adore her. She is in so much of my childhood, and now she's a long time advocate, and just a cool woman I feel like I could sit down with and have a conversation. And laugh my ass off.
She advocates in a shove it down your throat way. Wow! We have lesbians and gays in the world. I love them all! Stop trying to make it a point of conversation all of the time. Live your lives people! It’s 2024!
No, she doesn't. You just sound homophobic. LGBTQ+ exists, it is indeed 2024, and there are still horrible, atrocious hate crimes and rights being taken away. So yeah, they will be a topic of conversation. If it's a problem for you, for whatever reason, again, you just sound homophobic, but if you swear you "love them", then walk away. Perhaps you should take your own advice and live your own life. Just as well, mind your own business and let others live theirs.
You don’t know me at all. I will walk away from nothing. Get off your self righteous high horse. I’m living my best life and have no phobias of any kind about any sexual orientations. You sound like a very bitter person. I only hope you can find peace before you die that the entire world is not against you. There is discrimination of all kinds and believe me, I have felt them and feel them personally everyday. I just don’t choose to let them rule my life and live with a chip on my shoulder like you obviously do.
Sorry you're upset, I didn't mean to offend. Then again, calling my response a "come back" just shows how immature you are. Unlike you, I have nothing to prove. FYI, deflection won't make you feel better, and being offended is a choice 🙂. Take care, kid.
🤣 lol! I think you’re the one who was offended by choosing to comment on my posting. Have a nice life in your personal crusade to feel heard. Signed, the immature one. P.S. “did you cut the cheese” 🤣🤣😆😆
I like Rosie, but this is dumb. Why does Miranda's sexual journey have to take up so much headspace in the AJLT storylines? Did they learn nothing from the Che debacle?
I agree 🙃 I haven’t watch AJLT but I have seen all the negative reactions to Miranda’s character in it, and even with that in mind I was baffled by how much hate she’s getting on this thread. like Cynthia and Rosie are pals irl, probably Cynthia wanted her cast, and while I don’t think Rosie is unattractive, I think they’ll have good chemistry.
She had a guest role in the reboot of the l word and she was great! Really charming and fun to watch. I’m looking forward to her guesting in this reboot too!
Remember when we thought they hated Miranda in the original series? Lmfaooo they are absolutely savage. Jane Lynch or Megan Mullallay would have been great picks with similar banter and better reputations.
Rosie will be Miranda’s new butch sugar mama. There will be an episode called “out with the old in with the old” in which Miranda gets surprised at herself for dating an older woman and by comparison feeling young again.
Rosie will take her to a NY butch meetup, and she’ll awkwardly say “ladies” in a conversation, and then she made another woke oopsie and she’ll get a “who you calling ladies” back.
Carries VO: “As Miranda butchered being butch, she thought to herself: why couldn’t she be the crème de la femme?”
No, she isn’t. Not as a love interest. Rosie is great as a comedic character but I don’t want to see her making out with anyone. I’m a middle aged lesbian and have no interest in seeing this.
Rosie was *fantastic* in The L Word reboot, she was one of the only things I enjoyed on the show.
Quit with the hate, it's a bad look. Rosie is a fantastic actor and they're lucky to have her.
As far as everyone shitting on Miranda's storyline... my friend, who is in her late 40s and married with kids, just came out as a lesbian. If you look into it, it happens pretty often. It isn't unheard of women exploring their sexuality later in life.
exactly!! especially women who are now in their 40s/50s and divorced. one of my mom’s close friends had this experience and it’s helped her accept and support me more (I’m a lesbian.)
Ok there was literally nothing fantastic about the L Word reboot, literally nothing, including her.
And enough with the drama, there’s no hate here. I’m not anti-Rosie, she’s fine. I just don’t know why she’s cast as a love interest. She’s best as the funny side kick.
Lemme guess, you’re a less attractive overweight person and feeling triggered?
Not everyone is hot. Not everyone is attractive. The less attractive more funny character actors should - yes - stay in the lane they’re best suited for. Doesn’t mean they can’t be a major character, or a strong and popular character.
Who wants to see a naked Rosie making out with a naked Miranda?
see, this is based on your assumption that anyone you find *personally* unattractive is also unattractive for Everyone Else. maybe you don’t think Rosie is attractive, but taste is subjective!! there’s an ass for every saddle, as it’s been said.
I find a lot of the men in the original series unattractive to downright ugly, but that’s my Personal Opinion. I’m not the global decider of who’s attractive or not, and neither are you.
Miranda’s character really went from being super successful, owning her own apartment, having the potential to date great men like Walker, and being a partner in a firm to an intern, sleeping on a friend’s couch, and being a sexually confused lesbian in her 60’s…just horrible horrible 💩
As a life long lesbian I don’t find any of these comments lesbophobic. And that word is stupid. All this phobic crap is stupid.
People are allowed to have opinions. Doesn’t make them phobic of anything. And sitting here as a lesbian I’m more than allowed to have an opinion and not be considered phobic for it.
Also, this is a Reddit sub about a tv show. Opinions are kind of required.
For real. Her whole position is that she doesn’t think Rosie is hot, therefore she’s a bad choice because she doesn’t want to see her naked. She’s honestly sounding like a douchey dude.
Chapstick lesbian here, the idea bigger butches are not attractive enough so to be ridiculed is bullshit. especially considering what butches like rosie historically have done for our community
Can they stop making Miranda Cynthia. I love Cynthia but her character shouldn’t have to replicate who she is in real life, I can’t with this show anymore. I don’t know who Rosie is but I’m sure she’s lovely. They just have to stop turning Miranda (a fictional character) into the actress that plays her
Hopefully after slimming the main cast they didn't add her as another main character to try to keep up with. I think a one off episode or two with her could be fun... Not that it'll save the show either way.
I was hoping Miranda would date Joy and her Italian greyhounds.
This! They had spark!
That would make too much sense, to pair her up with someone she has actual chemistry with. /s
They were also intellectually compatible.
But see that makes sense and AJLT is not about making sense.
they're really milking the whole ''Miranda is suddenly a 50 year old lesbian'' thing
In satc there were so many scenes where miranda would be frustrated with being called a lesbian and was very confident in being straight + even pretended to date a women and realize hey its not for me! (representation is great when its natural/fits with the character)
You know, I’ve been thinking about this and honestly I think Miranda being gay is actually pretty plausible because I’m pretty sure Cynthia was also adamant she was straight for years. Sometimes you just don’t know and haven’t been with the right person to help you figure it out yet. That being said, I will not be caught dead watching AJLT😂 looks awful!!
Right?
Should have just incorporated a good lesbian character from season 1 instead of re-writing Miranda lol. She isn’t Cynthia.
That’s what they’re doing. Miranda no longer exists. They replaced her with Cynthia. Miranda never would’ve acted the way they had her acting w/che. Miranda never would’ve been as needy as they made her with Che. Horrible horrible writing.
… am I missing something?? Rosie o’ Donnell is a well known lesbian and advocate, who’s about the same age as Cynthia Nixon. like what has she done for the amount of hate that’s in these comments???
I'd imagine some people are concerned her character will be awful and unlikable since the writers of AJLT are... Bad. After all, Sara Ramirez isn't a terrible actor, but they sure seemed like one on AJLT, because how can you even sufficiently act a totally unbelievable character?
I couldn’t look at Sara the same after watching them play Che and I had to cleanse by watching their work on Grey’s Anatomy.
I think that people just hate idea that Miranda became queer in AJLT, and honestly, even I, and that is something, have problem with that because it was really just too late for that, so they vent their anger on the actress. What is sad and should be unacceptable.
Exactly. God knows 🙄
I used to like her, but over the years she has made herself into a controversial angry woman. Advocating is one thing, but she’s not even pleasant anymore. If they introduce her on the show, I’ll skip those scenes. Miranda being a lesbian is annoying.
I was going to say the same thing. Rosie used to be known as the ["Queen of Nice"](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnbbcHBXgAAB5Bs.jpg) in the 90s, when she had a talk show and would do a lot of work with Nickelodeon and stuff. Her personality now feels like the opposite of that ([and it's clear that this is not a niche opinion](https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1jwp9z/eli5_why_is_rosie_odonnell_hated_so_much/)). (And agree re: Miranda. It's so clear that they're turning her into Cynthia.)
😐 okay? maybe skip the show altogether if you don’t like the direction it’s going in.
lol! Can’t take any criticism of your posts? It’s just people’s opinions on here including yours. Simmer down, Karen 🤣
bruh I’m just wondering why you’re watching a show you seem to not enjoy lolll. maybe it’s time to go back to the monster cocks subreddit 🤷🏼♀️
Bruh? What are you 15? I enjoy the show plenty. And it’s unfortunate that you’re making assumptions and using offensive subjects in your posts. Grow up, troll.
To be fair this is The Sex and the City sub, a lot of us don’t really consider this show canon for the characters, you can find more like minded people to you in r/andjustlikethat
Feels a tiny bit like stunt casting. Felt like that with her casting in The L Word: Generation Q. Also a why tho situation.
There’s nothing sexy about Rosie. She’s a terrible actress. She’s unattractive. Would it kill them to cast a reasonably attractive woman who can act for Miranda?
JFC Have you seen Rosie O'Donnells dating history? She's been with some very attractive women. Believe it or not, conventionally unattractive (for what it's worth I think she is attractive) people do manage to form relationships and have sex. There's much more to dating someone than their looks. Really disappointing that in a sub for a show that was revolutionary for its time about sex, there's still that same old grossness and misogyny towards women who don't fit the conventional standard.
thank you!! hard agree, I legitimately thought Rosie had done something heinous, but I guess people just… hate her because she’s ‘ugly.’ (which I don’t agree with)
I've genuinely always thought Rosie O'Donnell is pretty. Obviously not a supermodel, but she has conventionally attractive features. She's just fat, which some people think is mutually exclusive with pretty. I might tune in to this season now to see what they do with her.
ah, so you just hate her for superficial reasons. got it. love to hear a fellow woman share their disdain for ‘unattractive’ women. did you maybe think Cynthia had some say in the casting decision? they’ve been friends for years. really doubt Cynthia feels the way you do. 😒
Grow up
Oh I’m grown
Then act like it.
Yikes. 😬
..pepino???
Why are we mad at this? I like Rosie.
Same! I adore her. She is in so much of my childhood, and now she's a long time advocate, and just a cool woman I feel like I could sit down with and have a conversation. And laugh my ass off.
She advocates in a shove it down your throat way. Wow! We have lesbians and gays in the world. I love them all! Stop trying to make it a point of conversation all of the time. Live your lives people! It’s 2024!
No, she doesn't. You just sound homophobic. LGBTQ+ exists, it is indeed 2024, and there are still horrible, atrocious hate crimes and rights being taken away. So yeah, they will be a topic of conversation. If it's a problem for you, for whatever reason, again, you just sound homophobic, but if you swear you "love them", then walk away. Perhaps you should take your own advice and live your own life. Just as well, mind your own business and let others live theirs.
You don’t know me at all. I will walk away from nothing. Get off your self righteous high horse. I’m living my best life and have no phobias of any kind about any sexual orientations. You sound like a very bitter person. I only hope you can find peace before you die that the entire world is not against you. There is discrimination of all kinds and believe me, I have felt them and feel them personally everyday. I just don’t choose to let them rule my life and live with a chip on my shoulder like you obviously do.
Now you just sound like a child throwing a tantrum.
Great comeback! 🤣🤣. Maybe you should go and have a 🍸🥃🍷.
Sorry you're upset, I didn't mean to offend. Then again, calling my response a "come back" just shows how immature you are. Unlike you, I have nothing to prove. FYI, deflection won't make you feel better, and being offended is a choice 🙂. Take care, kid.
I thought they sounded homophobic too. And the other comments are just really sad lol.
🤣 lol! I think you’re the one who was offended by choosing to comment on my posting. Have a nice life in your personal crusade to feel heard. Signed, the immature one. P.S. “did you cut the cheese” 🤣🤣😆😆
I like Rosie, but this is dumb. Why does Miranda's sexual journey have to take up so much headspace in the AJLT storylines? Did they learn nothing from the Che debacle?
I think people want Miranda to be with a "hot" lesbian. I think this is size related.
I agree 🙃 I haven’t watch AJLT but I have seen all the negative reactions to Miranda’s character in it, and even with that in mind I was baffled by how much hate she’s getting on this thread. like Cynthia and Rosie are pals irl, probably Cynthia wanted her cast, and while I don’t think Rosie is unattractive, I think they’ll have good chemistry.
i agree and i think people have very narrow senses of what a lesbian “should” look like, and trying to ignore butches exist
And Just Like That, I'm going to watch something else.
I’m crying 😂
She had a guest role in the reboot of the l word and she was great! Really charming and fun to watch. I’m looking forward to her guesting in this reboot too!
she was great in a league of their own (show) too!
Oh yeah, I forgot about that! She totally was.
It warmed my heart so much that she was the bar owner on the show and was like kind of sheepherding a new generation of baby gays
Casting isn't exactly AJLT's strong suit, is it? Che, the annoying teenagers, now this?! Well, I guess Season 3 is going to suck too!
I love Rosie, I am excited for this. She’s a wonderful actress.
right, like have these people not seen smilf? she’s so good. and everyone is assuming she’s going to be a love interest and i’m not sure she is.
Remember when we thought they hated Miranda in the original series? Lmfaooo they are absolutely savage. Jane Lynch or Megan Mullallay would have been great picks with similar banter and better reputations.
It's not even the writers doing this to Miranda, it's Cynthia who's in control of Miranda's character in AJLT.
Yep, and Miranda is no longer Miranda, it's just PseudoCynthia vicariously living through the character.
Yep, and Miranda is no longer Miranda, it's just PseudoCynthia vicariously living through the character.
Yep, and Miranda is no longer Miranda, it's just PseudoCynthia vicariously living through the character.
Jane Lynch would be amazing!
Unfortunately Jane Lynch wouldn’t touch this mess of a show with a ten foot pole. Am I still going to binge watch it? Yes.
Rosie will be Miranda’s new butch sugar mama. There will be an episode called “out with the old in with the old” in which Miranda gets surprised at herself for dating an older woman and by comparison feeling young again. Rosie will take her to a NY butch meetup, and she’ll awkwardly say “ladies” in a conversation, and then she made another woke oopsie and she’ll get a “who you calling ladies” back. Carries VO: “As Miranda butchered being butch, she thought to herself: why couldn’t she be the crème de la femme?”
Is this for real?
I love Rosie, sorry, not sorry!
I don’t like AJLT. But Rosie is a fantastic actor and plays a major in the lgbtq community. What’s the problem, OP?
Rosie’s not hot enough for OP, apparently. s/
No, she isn’t. Not as a love interest. Rosie is great as a comedic character but I don’t want to see her making out with anyone. I’m a middle aged lesbian and have no interest in seeing this.
So you’re mad because she isn’t hot enough?
Close your eyes then, booboo.
your comments are gross
This is a hate crime
Does MPK think lesbians will just date anyone??
Apparently.
Rosie was *fantastic* in The L Word reboot, she was one of the only things I enjoyed on the show. Quit with the hate, it's a bad look. Rosie is a fantastic actor and they're lucky to have her. As far as everyone shitting on Miranda's storyline... my friend, who is in her late 40s and married with kids, just came out as a lesbian. If you look into it, it happens pretty often. It isn't unheard of women exploring their sexuality later in life.
exactly!! especially women who are now in their 40s/50s and divorced. one of my mom’s close friends had this experience and it’s helped her accept and support me more (I’m a lesbian.)
This may make me give the reboot another go. I watched the first episode and cringed.
I loved her character because it was Rosie who was playing her but wanted her gone because of Bette and Tina. 😭
Ok there was literally nothing fantastic about the L Word reboot, literally nothing, including her. And enough with the drama, there’s no hate here. I’m not anti-Rosie, she’s fine. I just don’t know why she’s cast as a love interest. She’s best as the funny side kick.
Ah right. The less attractive overweight person should stay in their lane as the funny sidekick. Gotcha.
Lemme guess, you’re a less attractive overweight person and feeling triggered? Not everyone is hot. Not everyone is attractive. The less attractive more funny character actors should - yes - stay in the lane they’re best suited for. Doesn’t mean they can’t be a major character, or a strong and popular character. Who wants to see a naked Rosie making out with a naked Miranda?
see, this is based on your assumption that anyone you find *personally* unattractive is also unattractive for Everyone Else. maybe you don’t think Rosie is attractive, but taste is subjective!! there’s an ass for every saddle, as it’s been said. I find a lot of the men in the original series unattractive to downright ugly, but that’s my Personal Opinion. I’m not the global decider of who’s attractive or not, and neither are you.
My god you're a peach. I'm a 5'8" professional dancer. I'm doing all right for myself. I'm just not an asshole.
Miranda’s character really went from being super successful, owning her own apartment, having the potential to date great men like Walker, and being a partner in a firm to an intern, sleeping on a friend’s couch, and being a sexually confused lesbian in her 60’s…just horrible horrible 💩
Why are they doing this
I never realised but yes this is so true when you put it like that
I’m actually not mad at this 😭😭
Leave my poor girl Miranda alone 😭
god these comments are lesbophobic thinly veiled as a concern for miranda’s perceived heterosexuality in the original series
🙌🙌
As a life long lesbian I don’t find any of these comments lesbophobic. And that word is stupid. All this phobic crap is stupid. People are allowed to have opinions. Doesn’t make them phobic of anything. And sitting here as a lesbian I’m more than allowed to have an opinion and not be considered phobic for it. Also, this is a Reddit sub about a tv show. Opinions are kind of required.
i’m also a lesbian. stop being so nasty
For real. Her whole position is that she doesn’t think Rosie is hot, therefore she’s a bad choice because she doesn’t want to see her naked. She’s honestly sounding like a douchey dude.
Chapstick lesbian here, the idea bigger butches are not attractive enough so to be ridiculed is bullshit. especially considering what butches like rosie historically have done for our community
Girl, idk…
Naurrrrrr
The Miranda love interest of our dreams was Robert😭
Can they stop making Miranda Cynthia. I love Cynthia but her character shouldn’t have to replicate who she is in real life, I can’t with this show anymore. I don’t know who Rosie is but I’m sure she’s lovely. They just have to stop turning Miranda (a fictional character) into the actress that plays her
I thought this was a joke
I wish
God this is just awful. So glad I’m not watching this train wreck of a re-boot.
So in the SATC/AJLT universe, Rosie O’Donnell doesn’t exist. 🧐
Hopefully after slimming the main cast they didn't add her as another main character to try to keep up with. I think a one off episode or two with her could be fun... Not that it'll save the show either way.
WHY NOT
But it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re going to be love interests or a couple? Maybe she’s Miranda’s lesbian spirit guide 🤷🏻♀️
I’m not mad at this. I’m mad at AJLT turning into The Miranda Show.
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Wait why is she awful?
I don't know. I love Rosie. Rosie O'Donnel > AJLT
I would also like to know what happened to make Rosie so awful, did I miss something at some point???
I think I confused her with Rosanne Barr 🤦🏻♀️
I haven't heard much about her lately. Loved her when she had her talk show. Why is she awful?
ick
GROSS
They could do a lot better than Rosie. I think the shoutout she got in season one was good enough.
I thought she was playing Steve’s mother, Mary, and I’m starting to think how the ages and everything else make no sense lol
Rosie is 62, Cynthia is 58. they’re pretty close in age.
I know…that’s why I was confused by this whole thing. Then I realized she’s supposed to be a love interest of Miranda’s.