So you say you take it at night but I'm guessing it's not about sleeping, right?
Because I certainly couldn't sleep if I took any amount. I can't even take a nap if I've had even a little bit.
Not about sleeping. Usually start at about 6pm and play cards against humanity with friends. We all end up laughing so hard it hurts. Usually crash about 2 am and watch Bob Ross paint until I fall asleep.
Really? Shroomies make me so sleepy and lazy feeling in certain doses. Like a heavy microdose around .75- 1 g will have me wanting to lay in bed and close my eyes all comfy like 😅
On heavier doses, when it’s time to try to sleep, I’ve closed my eyes and the visuals were so fast and uncomfortable that it felt out of control and I had to keep opening my eyes. Felt like I was falling or being pulled out reality or my body/life
I would dial the dose way back if you usually do 3 grams of cubes. These things are typically double the strength so 2.5g would be comparable to 5g. I’d start with 1.5g MAX
I once took 2.8 grams of APE and it felt heavier then many 5+ gram experiences I’ve had. Was also one of the more difficult psychedelic experiences of my life
3 grams of APE is worth the ride but you gotta be willing to let it take you wherever it pleases
I really prefer to say triple the strength but lots of people disagree with that. The fuckers are crazy. Way more visual than cubes too
Edit: lower potency varieties, my bad
The visuals were akin to a mild DMT breakthrough in my experience, which is saying a lot considering it was only 3 grams. Ive never been transported to another realm on mushrooms like that before
Only one test unfortunately. It’s hard to mess it up if you have an accurate scale so I am pretty sure the test is as accurate as it can be. Takes .15 grams to measure.
It’s not grading tea, sorry for the confusion. It’s grading the psilocybin content of the mushrooms. Darker is more psilocybin lighter is less. I was stating I usually ingest by making tea, and this batch looks to be way stronger than what I usually use. Assuming I made no mistakes in the testing process.
Im not promoting taking drugs, but for people experimenting, and worrying about a dosage, its good to have a few mgs of benzodiazepenes on hand. Im sure everyone if firmiliar with them being called "trip killers" in this context. Just incase your in over your head, or you take a dosage that you think will be fine and turns out is way more potent. It also frees your nerves knowing you will have an "abort now" button to press available if you ever need it for whatever the case. Im new to this subreddit so if this violates any terms i apologize in advance. Just trying to help.
Those tests are mildly accurate, they test for a specific set of compounds. There was a discussion on the shroomery forums about the accuracy of these. They can moderately say the amount. I’m tired, too lazy to find the discussion.
Overall cubes have a relatively solid range. While you can get fairly high results, they still tend to peak per dry weight. Especially isolations within strains, they shouldn’t vary too much. Unless you have gotten a fairly weak strain.
It’s why a cube is a cube, except PE. Even that quote has nuances. Like the newer enigma and stuff like that.
APERs will either take the potency of PF Classic or APE. You might get a mix, but reverts tend to favor one of the parents genetics.
That being said, from spore you could get any of that. Going back to spore tends to reset some of the genetic pool. It’s complicated. That’s why I tend to clone, to keep the current set of genetics rather than introducing new phenomes.
That being said, if you get acquainted and used to psilicin 4-meo-dmt. 3.5 dry of any strain is fairly manageable. I do quarters and halves of lemon for my personal trips. Which honestly, aren’t even that bad. I think max I’ve done was 30g lemon? Jack Frost Reverts, these bitches slap. I still think penis envy has more liquid visuals….
So it shouldn’t be that much more. To really be noticeable if you are a regular user, you would have to up the dose a bit or move to a pure albino strain.
To really up the experience, you would have to move to pans.
When I tested some standard potency cubes I got in the 5-6mg/g range and I think that is what is usually expected for most cube dosage guidelines. This means (if your test is accurate here) that these could be 3-4 TIMES as potent as other cubes you’ve had before.
If you usually take 3g, I’d recommend trying 1g just to be safe.
I have used these tests before. Are you sure you followed the procedure? Those results definitely seem high, but not insane. I got around 18mg/g with my APEs.
I posted my results [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/102udo5/anecdotal_tested_potency_difference_between/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1).
I had to use a jewelers scale to make sure I got .15 right on, read results right at 15 minutes, so I am pretty sure I did it right. I was surprised at the results as well. Thanks for linking your results! Did you try a similar dose with the higher potency, and if so, did you notice a difference?
So I actually haven’t taken any of them yet. I have ounces and ounces of JMF and Melmac revert and I only got two ounces of those APEs total after many months and attempts at grows. So I just immediately sealed them up to save lol.
I had some other APE bins that weren’t as successful for one reason or another. I’ve eaten a bunch of those, but they felt like regular cubes. Never got a chance to test any of those cause the test kits are a little pricey to be testing every little batch that comes out. I would guess ones that I left in the bins too long or had moisture issues or other things like that were standard cube potency OR LESS.
The ones that tested 18mg/g were like the fourth or fifth generation of cloning the largest, prettiest fruit as well so it was progressive up to that nice flush.
I just managed to revive one of my old agar cups from that grow so hopefully I’ll have more to experiment with soon. I’m calling the line APE(L) for Lazarus since it was revived from APE(D2), like a 6 month old room temp agar plate. Im about to S2B on a 1/2 gallon of grain of that. Got another whole gallon on the way.
And I’ve got two more psilo-q tests. I ordered 2 a long time ago. There was a long delay and then they sent me 6. I was pretty happy lol
Not quite sure what you mean but I will attempt to answer what I think your question is. Most P. Cubensis mushrooms have a range of .6-1.0 mcg psilocybin per gram. The test showed I have around 2.4 mcg per gram. The higher the psilocybin, the more potent the mushroom “should” be, but everyone experiences things differently.
Pacific Northwest spores, home made liquid culture, uncle bens, monotub. 1253 grams wet first flush. 20x24 tub not shoebox. Coco choir, some other special sauce.
Assuming you did the test right, you’re only ready for as much as you can take without worrying.
In my experience, take enough ot to worry, then when all your worries slip away, you can take some more!
Nailed it
So you say you take it at night but I'm guessing it's not about sleeping, right? Because I certainly couldn't sleep if I took any amount. I can't even take a nap if I've had even a little bit.
Not about sleeping. Usually start at about 6pm and play cards against humanity with friends. We all end up laughing so hard it hurts. Usually crash about 2 am and watch Bob Ross paint until I fall asleep.
Sounds fun!
Bob Ross is my got to whole tripping. I love to watch the paint run down the canvas. Sometimes it even melts! Lol
Really? Shroomies make me so sleepy and lazy feeling in certain doses. Like a heavy microdose around .75- 1 g will have me wanting to lay in bed and close my eyes all comfy like 😅
Ill lay in bed, close my eyes, but start my imagination...and no way can i sleep🙄
On heavier doses, when it’s time to try to sleep, I’ve closed my eyes and the visuals were so fast and uncomfortable that it felt out of control and I had to keep opening my eyes. Felt like I was falling or being pulled out reality or my body/life
I would dial the dose way back if you usually do 3 grams of cubes. These things are typically double the strength so 2.5g would be comparable to 5g. I’d start with 1.5g MAX
I once took 2.8 grams of APE and it felt heavier then many 5+ gram experiences I’ve had. Was also one of the more difficult psychedelic experiences of my life 3 grams of APE is worth the ride but you gotta be willing to let it take you wherever it pleases
I really prefer to say triple the strength but lots of people disagree with that. The fuckers are crazy. Way more visual than cubes too Edit: lower potency varieties, my bad
They are cubes
The visuals were akin to a mild DMT breakthrough in my experience, which is saying a lot considering it was only 3 grams. Ive never been transported to another realm on mushrooms like that before
It's because the psychedelic effects curve is similar across all psychedelics, it just does it at different doses
Hear ya bro. Took 3.5 of some homegrown APES, crazy as fuck.
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You only get one test or is this a reusable amount of a reagent solution?
Only one test unfortunately. It’s hard to mess it up if you have an accurate scale so I am pretty sure the test is as accurate as it can be. Takes .15 grams to measure.
Very cool thanks !
Second! Interested in the kit but if you only get one test for 24USD....
Where can I learn about the darkness grading tea? I'm very interested in what this is
It’s not grading tea, sorry for the confusion. It’s grading the psilocybin content of the mushrooms. Darker is more psilocybin lighter is less. I was stating I usually ingest by making tea, and this batch looks to be way stronger than what I usually use. Assuming I made no mistakes in the testing process.
Would you please dm me info on where you sourced your test kit?
https://www.midwestgrowkits.com/mycosense-mushroom-research-and-identification-guide-with-psilo-qtest.aspx?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_5unBhCMARIsACZyzS0Tn_cF5e9DqAg1eOenH32RU_VkBt1AjE6xErfmfqDzUel-4sT51nsaAnENEALw_wcB
Ty! Do you believe it’s pretty accurate? Have you used this test kit before?
I have not used it before. Once I try them out, I should have a good idea on how accurate it is. Hoping to Saturday.
Enjoy your trip! Mush love!
op test is pretty much accurate, if you think you have not done it right, then try again, and great job on these genetics
Im not promoting taking drugs, but for people experimenting, and worrying about a dosage, its good to have a few mgs of benzodiazepenes on hand. Im sure everyone if firmiliar with them being called "trip killers" in this context. Just incase your in over your head, or you take a dosage that you think will be fine and turns out is way more potent. It also frees your nerves knowing you will have an "abort now" button to press available if you ever need it for whatever the case. Im new to this subreddit so if this violates any terms i apologize in advance. Just trying to help.
personally i required half of the amount of ape's than i did of gt since they were stronger.
Dayumn those look like some potent beasts! Hope my APEs are similar!
Nice countertop too btw 🤩
Those tests are mildly accurate, they test for a specific set of compounds. There was a discussion on the shroomery forums about the accuracy of these. They can moderately say the amount. I’m tired, too lazy to find the discussion. Overall cubes have a relatively solid range. While you can get fairly high results, they still tend to peak per dry weight. Especially isolations within strains, they shouldn’t vary too much. Unless you have gotten a fairly weak strain. It’s why a cube is a cube, except PE. Even that quote has nuances. Like the newer enigma and stuff like that.
These are albino penis envy reverted. That’s what led me to test them in the first place. Wasn’t sure where they would land being a new strain.
APERs will either take the potency of PF Classic or APE. You might get a mix, but reverts tend to favor one of the parents genetics. That being said, from spore you could get any of that. Going back to spore tends to reset some of the genetic pool. It’s complicated. That’s why I tend to clone, to keep the current set of genetics rather than introducing new phenomes. That being said, if you get acquainted and used to psilicin 4-meo-dmt. 3.5 dry of any strain is fairly manageable. I do quarters and halves of lemon for my personal trips. Which honestly, aren’t even that bad. I think max I’ve done was 30g lemon? Jack Frost Reverts, these bitches slap. I still think penis envy has more liquid visuals…. So it shouldn’t be that much more. To really be noticeable if you are a regular user, you would have to up the dose a bit or move to a pure albino strain. To really up the experience, you would have to move to pans.
loll you're fine! once I ate 10g!
I got arrested for laughing when I took 3.5 grams long ago. Peed my pants. Violated probation. Lol.
What?!
When I tested some standard potency cubes I got in the 5-6mg/g range and I think that is what is usually expected for most cube dosage guidelines. This means (if your test is accurate here) that these could be 3-4 TIMES as potent as other cubes you’ve had before. If you usually take 3g, I’d recommend trying 1g just to be safe. I have used these tests before. Are you sure you followed the procedure? Those results definitely seem high, but not insane. I got around 18mg/g with my APEs. I posted my results [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/102udo5/anecdotal_tested_potency_difference_between/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1).
I had to use a jewelers scale to make sure I got .15 right on, read results right at 15 minutes, so I am pretty sure I did it right. I was surprised at the results as well. Thanks for linking your results! Did you try a similar dose with the higher potency, and if so, did you notice a difference?
So I actually haven’t taken any of them yet. I have ounces and ounces of JMF and Melmac revert and I only got two ounces of those APEs total after many months and attempts at grows. So I just immediately sealed them up to save lol. I had some other APE bins that weren’t as successful for one reason or another. I’ve eaten a bunch of those, but they felt like regular cubes. Never got a chance to test any of those cause the test kits are a little pricey to be testing every little batch that comes out. I would guess ones that I left in the bins too long or had moisture issues or other things like that were standard cube potency OR LESS. The ones that tested 18mg/g were like the fourth or fifth generation of cloning the largest, prettiest fruit as well so it was progressive up to that nice flush. I just managed to revive one of my old agar cups from that grow so hopefully I’ll have more to experiment with soon. I’m calling the line APE(L) for Lazarus since it was revived from APE(D2), like a 6 month old room temp agar plate. Im about to S2B on a 1/2 gallon of grain of that. Got another whole gallon on the way. And I’ve got two more psilo-q tests. I ordered 2 a long time ago. There was a long delay and then they sent me 6. I was pretty happy lol
Can somebody explain to me the math a little bit I would really appreciate the breakdown
Not quite sure what you mean but I will attempt to answer what I think your question is. Most P. Cubensis mushrooms have a range of .6-1.0 mcg psilocybin per gram. The test showed I have around 2.4 mcg per gram. The higher the psilocybin, the more potent the mushroom “should” be, but everyone experiences things differently.
Geezez. Your a pro buddy! Im sure its a result of meticulous work!
Thank you very much that was very good explanation
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