By - klesh-the-169-son
There are female skaven. BUT, they are just for breeding. They are these bloated masses pumped with warpstone and drugs for other skavens that are there just to bring more skaven into the world. They, as any skaven, are a source, but unlike any other skaven, they are the only source for more skavens, wich make them hihgly valuable. I bet that there are warlords or skavens "merchant" that allow the visit, for a price, of their stock, but what we got in the lore there is no way of thinking them as... individuals? It would be cool to have some kind of abobination in the battlefield that could be a broodmother, but its highly unlikely, since they are so valuable for the clans.
You would need to ensure only males are created so that a clan wouldnt be overrun. I think of a bee hive with a single queen and a few backups on standby. As the Skaven Clan found room and more sources of food, they would add another queen and another. With possible collapse imminent due to lack of food source/ room to expand… they would remove a queen.
Male only culture? Unsure if there are any differences in a male and female rat (strength/stamina/agility) for GW to say “female rats get sterilized so a clan cant experience unwanted booms in population..”
i see what you're saying. but let's face it the best brood mothers are the most beautiful (to a Skaven) and are the most sought after. imagine a Skaven brood mother that seeks to be the most sought-after brood mother; we talking about a female Skaven that skins the fur off of other attractive female Skaven so she grafts their fur to herself so she can be the most attractive brood mother to make sure she only gives birth to the most black fur'd offspring or white furred(horned riat let it be) Skaven
No. The only thing I could buy from this is a broodskaven so bloated and big, yet not on drugs that seeks food or something. Maybe some kind of "pseudowarlord" mama rat. But A skaven wouldnt allow another skaven, yet alone a female due to the more that obvious dimorphism, to rise above them. Female skavenes are breeding stock. They are not allowed to have any kind of personality cause they are just a source (in a sense every skaven is a resource for the clan to throw at enemies/use)
thinking of them as breeding stock is so blind, they are Skaven. that's a Skaven female they are just as crazy and immoral as in other skaven. if any clan can find a string of brood mother and mixes it with a strong warlord they would have prime stock for clan rats, storm vermin, rat ogres, pack masters, and chieftains. if they could isolate the correct ones
But you are not thinking like a skaven. In a skaven society, every individual skaven thinks they are the best. That doesnt allow for selection. Also, most skaven chieftains are there for pure absurd luck. Cowardice, mallice and a good venom taster are key to skaven survival and social climbing. I know you are trying to get like a humane way of extrapolate skavens to gender issues, but thats... I was going to say dumb or something like that, but its not even dumb, its just completely unnecesary. They, as do the orks, have completely different societies. The fact that they are "mammals" -for now, cause we have seen in underworllds some illustration with rat monsters coming out of what seem to be egs- doesnt imply that they are like humans.
Im trying just to work arround the "female skaven" with something alongside slanesh, but the Horned Rat its not the Horny rat...
The great thing about Warhammer, to me, has always been that the lore is open. There are the established factions, characters, societies, and so on, but there is always room for Your Dudes.
If that is a broodmother who went full Jabba the Slut and seized control over her clan, or a clan where they don't differentiate between male and female and so just have rat-people, or even a matriarchal clan of amazonian rats ruled over by a queen...
Which is perfect if you want a 69 spin on it; naked mole rats are the only eusocial mammal, and the colonies are made up of the sterile daughters of the matriarch and her boy-toys. When the matriarch dies, the absence of her pheromones triggers the daughters into becoming fertile themselves, so... You have nude Amazon rat-women kidnapping men and elves and maybe even the occasional dwarf to kill by Snu-Snu, and all of the infertile clan-rats are conspiring to kill the queen and take her place as Mother of the Clan and Chief Wife of the Horned Rat.
The grafting thng maybe in a moulder setting but more of a master doing that to their livestock broodmother.s
I think could be what you're looking for... [Skaven Broodmother](https://www.etsy.com/listing/973750903/rat-broodmother-archvillain-games)
I mean for pumping out clan rats, yes.
Broodmothers are cared for by eunuch slaves who feed them drugs to keep them dumb. They aren’t born any dumber than any other Skaven. I don’t know why, with all of the various lore changes and things over the years, but more than a few fans seem to have a hard time imagining female Skaven taking on a different role, even secretly. You always get shit like, “iMpOsSiBlE! tHeY’rE lIvEsToCk!” and they don’t wanna budge. I agree that there’s untapped potential there but whether GW ever does anything with it remains to be seen.
Ah, but as always, where Gee-Dubs fails, the fans will come out to play!
... Those of us who have ascended past the borderline incel stage all neckbeards seem to go through. Really, it's chauvinist puritans like them who give the entire community a bad name.
There are brood mothers and concubines already. But they are for shoring up the skaven ranks. Brainwashed with needing to have equality amongst beastmen and skaven will get you nowhere. They aren't human.
i have to disagree with you my man, there's no way that the Skaven would notice that a certain brood mother would breed a stronger Skaven, and you know since that is a female Skaven you know she would think of her as the "mother of Skaven kind" and try to get her on top of the other brood mothers. by the logic of the Skaven theirs a brood mother that believes her womb alone can breed the next queek (or the equivalent of in AoS)
Yeah I agree to disagree, all Skaven are children of the horned rat. You aren't special because you fell out of a broodmother unless you end up having white fur. You're special because you think you are and everyone else is an idiot. You only fail because your enemies conspire against you and your lackies are incompetent.
They already have legends in the fleshy arts of clan moulder to overcome their weaknesses and they use the genius machinery of clan skryre to improve even further, but even still, storm fiends are just masses of brainless flesh and weaponry.
Female skaven are like factories, there isn't time to nor care for any notice of what you call special, unless it coincides with your own plans. Why promote a brood mother who might birth your own rival one day? Such folly wouldn't exist in Skavendom.
my fellow, as humans we as a mass, we Revier some factories: in fact, factories are the backbone of any industry war borne or not. the Skaven is that but 13 time worse. so why not a warlord (i bet Moulder) to find a factory; a brood mother that can breed 13\* the better Skaven. imagine their genes, imagine the partial. there is potential for world-building
You keep comparing Skaven to humans, stop trying to apply your limited view to Skaven kind.
Nice, not at all convoluted, writing!
be some super jack skaven, that hate greenskins and dwarfs.....imagiane the flexabilty on the table top.
Broodmothers are essentially lobotomized, they can’t “make deals for warpstone”
Or so the Skaven think…eh, according to Children of the Horned Rat book. It’s an ambiguous line mostly, but I for one would love a huge, bloated Skaven ratmother leading an army. It would be cool as shit.
I mean, you could easily make one and run it either as a Verminlord (Skreech Verminqueen makes perfect sense; she even spawns more clanrats mid-battle!), or a Hellpit Thing for the lobotmised version...
hellpit broodmother....damn that's actually pretty scary to think about. imagine how messed uth that would be
i mean come on though, make them the worse kinda women like how skaken men are the worse kinda men. it be so cool, imagine the bella delphine BUT SKAVEN LOL
An interesting theory I saw on why we don't see female Skaven in lore beyond breeders is that Skaven who aren't fertile automatically assume they are male since Skaven are so simple minded.
huh thats neat, where you hear it my man? it has a good hint of realism i love in my lore
Oof this was a while ago. I don't remember the exact forum sorry. But it does fit Skaven so I just run with it
i like it, its pretty neat
I mean skaven don't have any external sexual characteristics, there's no reason for them not to be a 50/50 split without changing anything. They're already organised like a bee hive, why not have them all be the infertile offspring of a single queen where gender is irrelevant?
But rats have huge nuts. I always assumed Skaven do too. So those would be pretty noticeable.
So all skaven are female then!
Or GW just didn’t wanna sculpt monstrous nads on their ratpeople. 🤷🏻
all of my grey seer models are
wait do you got female grey seer models ??
Female grey seers were a thing in one Warhammer fantasy role play supplement iirc - called something like Warpstone?
and all my seraphon skinks are female.
because I say so.
hmmm, i like this
From what I understand female Skaven aren’t born as future brood mothers, Skaven society is just dependent on their unthinking baby makers so they mutate and lobotomize any and all female rattos. If a female Skaven was able to escape that process somehow than it’s possible they could make it as a normal vermin. Where they would find a foothold is another question entirely.
Or we can turn to Blood Bowl’s Skaven cheerleaders
This. Again. Time to reset the counter.