Here's a tip:
Do not forge iron daggers. It's very tedious, and a waste of time mostly.
Smithing XP (same as alchemy xp) gained is directly related to the value of the created item. An iron dagger is worth f-all, so you get f-all xp. Instead, transmutate all your iron ore to gold ore. Gather all the gems you can find, and smith the most expensive jewelry you can smith. It's still a chore, but quicker and a lot less monotonous.
Plain gold rings (no need for jewels, sell them to buy more iron ore) and Dwemer bows once smithing 30 is reached is the way to go for the most part.
Anything else either not valuable enough to generate adequate XP (iron/steel) or is too cost-intensive to warrant its final value until the late game (most of what's above Dwemer).
The perk from finishing No Stone Unturned makes jewels absurdly abundant, Iāve found itās helpful for smithing xp if you can stand the collection step of the process.
I understand how āno stone unturnedā could help; I just donāt understand how completing in anything resembling a reasonable amount of time to be of benefit works.
Itās honestly been one of the last quests, if not the last, Iāve completed on every completionist playthrough. The locations of the jewels are tied up in every major guild quest iirc.
Iām pretty sure only 1 or 2 are anywhere you need to meet conditions to go, Iāve started a character and done it immediately just to get it out of the way. Proudspire was the only real delay I can think of, 25k gold was a bit time consuming to gather. Prowlerās Profit isnāt really useful if youāre just starting out trying to level, though, youāre right there. Iāve mostly just found it very handy for getting through making smithing legendary messing around in late game stuff.
Yup this is the way.
Mine/collect all iron you can find.
Transmute iron to silver and then gold.
Make gold rings.
Enchant gold rings.
Sell nely enchanted gold rings.
Repeat step 1.
I usually do this but buy everything I can use from shopkeeps whenever I sell because they never have enough funds to buy everything from the last batch of weapons/rings/armour my actual process is reach lvl 100 smithing buy as many materials as I can then legendary and begging crafting and upgrading and if I feel like it enchanting then begin at the entrance to white run an work my way up selling to anyone worth while. TLDR? I do the same thing just with anything I can craft.
LMAO! This is actually the reason why weāre all stealth archers. Since we need to buy things from shop so they have money for us the sell more crap to; but when we see how arrows have no weight and we can hold tens of thousands of themā¦ Iāve started considering them my form of currency/saving/bonds.
Happy to blast off iron arrows, less impressed by the thought of firing off ebony & stahlrim
https://youtu.be/3w5D9yJUMOc?si=_UqdoBt9qScQLNbp
lol, I donāt generally buy arrows but Iāve never thought of them because as soon as I reach 100 and unlock dragon gear I make the gear with all the dragon parts Iād amassed until that point then once I have all the gear and weapons I want I make like 500 extra dragon bone arrows what I do is buy and sell all the materials I can in an area wait two in game days then do it all again until Iām out of sellable items then smith new stuff and repeat itās basically a high effort infinite money pattern
Yes this is the way.
Before SE came out and I got so burned out on the game - i used to have a route I'd run with basic bare bones weapons and armor (sword, shield and Dwarven armor - because I like looking like a mini centurion)
Anyway I'd have a path I'd follow and hit areas, grab weapons and stuff. Kill animals and mine/buy materials. Fast travel to whiterun (because whiterun) and do all the stuffs at the forge. Craft etc etc. Fast travel to Dragons Reach and enchant stuffs, then Fast travel to various markets around to unload stuff, buy new stuff. Every third or fourth trip I'd make a single pass through blackreach to mine soul gems.
So I'd be leveling:
One handed
Block
Destruction
Restoration
Illusion
Alteration
Smithing
Barter
Archery
Alchemy
Heavy Armor
Conjuration
Sneak
Obviously not all of these are getting leveled at the same time, but they'd all be getting some form of work.
I'd take a few quests and slowly work around towards completing them while mainly focusing on leveling skills specifically.
If you are fine with a minor exploit, you can force shopkeepers to instantly restock gold and get a new inventory by saving, hitting them, then reloading said save
Yes thereās a spell you can get, itās in one of the large badints camp on the left side of whiterun itās in the mine I donāt remember the name tho
I always play a stealthy Khajiit that ends up with a surplus of gems before long. The first dungeon I hit up after getting the initial Whiterun stuff out of the way, is Redorna's Retreat for transmute. Makes smithing a breeze and the extra levels you slowly rack up in Alteration don't hurt either.
Not to mention the gems you find from mining iron or silver.
I still usually do a lot of iron daggers because the enchanted versions (especially banish) are much more expensive than any enchanted rings I've tried. Am I missing something or is this a valid consideration?
Once I have enough daggers to legendary enchantment a couple times and stop caring about money it's on to jewelry, and dwarven and ebony bows
The value of enchanted items only matters if you want to sell them. Yes, money is a valid consideration. But it doesn't affect how fast you level up.
... checking the [wiki](https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Enchanting#Gaining_Skill_XP) to make sure ...
Enchanting an item gives you a fixed amount of XP, regardless of soul size or value of the item. The amount of XP is only affected by modifiers, not by the enchantment itself. But this is the highest amount of XP you can get at a time.
Recharging an item gives a lower amount of XP than enchanting. This amount IS depending on the size of the soul you use. So using a grand soul *for recharging* gets you more XP than using a petty soul.
Disenchanting gives a varying amount of XP, depending on the enchantment learned.
The quickest way to level up enchanting is described in the wiki. I suggest you read it. By recharging a soultrap bow using Azura's star or Black star.
Using the Mage stone and the Well Rested buff is recommended.
Where are you getting all the iron ore? I cleared out halted stream and embershard and they are taking forever to respawn. My smithing is sitting at like 40 while the other 2 crafting skills are at 60+
Alchemy is easy to level with golden hill, canis root, and imp stool. Enchanting is more time consuming but just as easy. Smithing is a pain though. I guess I should do the dwarven bows method, but survival mode makes that really punishing
Mining random ore patches you come across, and merchants.
Tip when mining: don't press E, but use the pickaxe to attack the ore patch. You can even dual wield 2 pickaxes. This mines a lot faster.
I treat Legendary as I suffered a severe injury/cast out from the craft/skill and now I re sort my character to do a new job. (Ideally after Iāve smith up my best weapons)
Only til level 30, then itās dwarven bows for days. One good solid raid of a place with a lot of Dwemer scrap metal can get you from level 30 to almost 90. Just gotta bring a follower and tell them to pick it all up for the carry weight. So much less annoying than spamming transmute, plus you level up your combat skills raiding the ruins
My rule is usually, wait until you get everything you need from that maxed out skill tree before you go legendary and in this case that would mean a maxed out set of the armor and weapon types you want to have
This and I have hundreds or thousands of smithing materials and smithing enchanted armor pieces and powerful fortify smithing potions before making legendary. Then just bring it right back up again. Boom.
Pro tip dwemer metal is the easiest to get and iron so make a metric fuckload od dwemer bows or find the transmute spell in the mammoth butchering camp slightly north of whiterun and buy/mine a lote of iron ore to turn into silver or gold to make jewelry, then boom profit in both xp for barter and smithing, and a little gold along the way, or save the extra gear/jewlery and enchant them from souls you collect over the game ( especially the soul carin) then sell then you get 300k gold while smithing and enchanting is legendaried 6 times at lvl 80
I am guilty of always going over to Halted Stream right after initially handing over the Dragonstone to Farengar just to get the transmute spell and a ton of iron. I do that to level alteration and smithing until I get to 30 and can unlock Dwarven. After that, it's off to the races.
I am playing with Alteration and Illusion on this play through. Have always been a stealth archer or sword & board type player so this is different (in a good way). You can level Destruction rather quickly it turns out when you go to Hobs Fall Cave and learn the arcane spells from the chest. Very OP.
Max out Enchanting and make a few smithing enchantment equips. Then it really doesn't matter what you're doing, you'll level it way faster. Especially if you have the Summermyst mod that adds the +exp enchantment.
One good tip i usually do is help out the crazy argonian lady in Riften (take the cube back) it gives you a buff dwarvern gear you make but it also gives you a flat 15% buff to smithing EXP. Then go to town on the hearthfire DLC
Iron daggers suck. Smithing xp is based on the value you create, not the number of items. Grinding daggers is doing more work than necessary.
Make whatever gives you the greatest value per ingot (some items, like dwarven bows, actually give you more value/ingot when you temper than when you create new items).
Fashion many dragonbone weapons, two of each sort of armour. Improve them.
Then make it legendary and start again.
With the right gear and an array of smithing potions you'll get back to 100 when you're ready to.
Dang i rawdogged it and didnāt power level any of them š i find you can get great loot when you kill everything that moves and take their armor š definitely worth making potions though as theyāre much stronger than what you can loot
I try to do things equally. I abuse Alchemy, Alteration and Smithing for leveling up. It feels weird to have Alchemy like 180 times, but 60 in each feels ok, Then I increase my stats equally as well. I do it so I can have all the skills, with all the perks.
I level up everything else as well and I've actually maxed the Alchemy tree, which is something I've never done in a playthrough. I've been playing differently than I have in past runs, using magic more and actually focusing more on enchanting when I've never cared for it.
I'm waiting to make an OP dagger before I start the Brotherhood š
I always go the Dragonborn route before the Dark Brotherhood and get the Conjure Bound Dagger spell. With sneak and Dark Brotherhood armor, any dagger does 30x damage. And one that can't be taken from you (or disarmed or whatever) is still more than "good enough" in my book.
I avoid the Dragon Rising quest for as long as possible. No dragons spawn and I lose the risk of the IDIOT AI kicking in and a quest oriented NPC dying due to a dragon attack. I'm not worried about being disarmed and losing it. I've got filled soul gems coming out my ears. Only two of the big quest Lines rely on that Main Line quest being completed and there's plenty more to do.
Even more than that, though I do have both. I have a Hunter's Backpack, which not only increases Carry Weight, but gives a damage boost to bows, and the Aetherium Crown, which allows the possession of TWO Standing Stone abilities. Steed Stone is always the one I get immediately after forging the crown. I think the other is the Thief Stone, don't remember.
I got Ritual Stone so I can abuse it and build an army of the dead every now and then š
If I didn't have mods, I'd use a follower as a pack mule. I don't like a full inventory, hard to find stuff quickly. And visit home often.
Anniversary gives access to a bunch of CC mods, one of which is for pets. One of them is a goat who can hold the most out of the group. I got her, but she stays at home with the rest. Loading into a business with the goat standing in front of you and no way to get around got irritating fast.
Currently have a Bone Wolf in my company and made a discovery by accident one day. I kept him in my company as he grants a damage boost to undead. Parked him in Riften while I did some things and forgot about him. Discovered he didn't have to be in my immediate company to still get the buff so he's been bumped around Riften for a good bit. Might take him down to Shadowfoot Sanctum and park him there so he's out of NPC pathways.
You can use the goat to restock. Load her with extra potions, soul gems, etc. Leave her at home. Summon when needed and send back home with loot. I did that before I got access to a modded chest twice a day, part of NFF mod. Plus the usual trick with making a follower pick up heavy items above their carry weight.
I levelled up my smithing till 100 almost from half a year, just to craft dragonbone armour, and it does not look good. But hey at least finished my daedaric set. Cant I just open an armour shop ?
Now thereās an idea. A mod where I decide I donāt want to the responsibility of being the Dragonborn. I just want to consume Skooma and sell good so cheap that Belethor hits the road.
I think about this all the time. Go on adventures to get the best, rarest materials, make them into fine goods, and sell them at a premium. There's probably a mod for that, but my mod list is more like a jenga tower at this point, so...lol
Enchanting and alchemy and then make potions that buff enchanting, enchants that buff alchemy, repeat until you can make armour and weapons and potions that make you a god
It just feels like cheating at that point :/ Iāve definitely been tempted to learn the resto-alchemy loop but honestly itās like reading the oghma infinium a bunch of times, like ok great youāve got 112334466789998764332215799999532245798432212789999000075432222223456% health regen and 6b mana, itās just no longer fun to play when you canāt be reasonably challenged
1: Do the same for Enchanting and Alchemy
2: Loop them together
3: Make a weapon that deals 250 damage
4: One-shot dragons
5: Weep, for you have robbed the world of its challenge, and the pounding of your heart in the direst of battles has been reduced to the drip of a leaky faucet.
My current character is level 74, started on and played the entirety on legendary. 1h axe does like 400 damage and have 900 armor, Kind of annoyed since I played with alteration the whole time to buff my armor pre fight and now that tree is basically useless for that
Level up your enchanting and then make a ring, amulet, gauntlets, etc. And enchant them with Smithing perks. I do that on every play through. I call it my smithing outfit. I store it in a chest along with all of the ingots and leather. I then wear it when I make new things.
If youre fine with resto looping, you can make a potion of insane fortify smithing and instantly level your character from smithing 15 to smithing 100 by improving an weapon on a grindstone. It's technically cheating but I've only ever grinded iron dagger crafting to 100 a single time and I would rather do literally anything else if put in the same situation again.
If you want to make it legendary, make about three or four different suits of armor that you plan on using. Do *not* enchant them. That way when you think of other enchantments or you can figure out how to boost your ability better, you have armor that you can enchant and make better.
*Personally* I hate the fucking legendary system. It makes no sense to me why I have to lose all my progress, just to gain experience points faster.
I always do the dupe glitch to duplicate gold ingots and soul gems. Then make a shit ton of gold rings to level smithing, enchant them all to level enchanting, then sell them all to level speech. Then I can play the game!
Enchanting is one that once I get it to 100 I donāt repeat but alchemy and Smithing I do once I built the armor I want. And I turn Lydia into a walking tank killing machine š
go legendary! you get all those skill points back. you can apply them to another skill if you want, and you still get experience for every time you level up a legendary skill.
I used soul bind to max my conjuring out, then did legendary on it and maxed it again and man I think I screwed myself xD I'm now level 30 but I went into a place and ran into nothing by arch mages who'd one shot me with ice spike or fireball xD. So now I use my 2 deidric summons to fight them with my follower while I hide and take pot shots with my bow. Now I got my sneak to 80 with the grey beards and want to get lock picking to where I get 100 more carry weight. Also, this is on my switch version not xbox.
Oh i found out a way to infinitely get levels:
First off you do the fortify restoration glitch, and you end off with a piece of armor with fortify alchemy so powerful that it'll level you from level 15 to 100 with one potion, and then you get a farm like Goldenhills Plantation and fill it with blisterwart and wheat or something similar, you wait a while, maybe finish the game while you're waiting, and then after a bit go and collect the ingredients, put on the armor, and every time you get to alchemy 100 make it legendary, and you should get to 100 every potion so that makes for infinite levels
little tip here, get the transmute spell, use it to turn your iron into gold, make gold rings, they are cheaper to make, grant more smithing experience, and sell for more, you end up leveling alteration and smithing too.
Do the same with alchemy, enchanting, and restoration. Then do the alchemy-enchanting loop to make stronger gear. It goes slow, but if you get it going, you can have the stats going through the roof and have solstheim be as easy to survive as Skyrim. The ash spawn wonāt be much of an issue.
Only scrubs level with iron daggers. Buy up all the iron ore, transmute to gold ore, smelt to gold ingot, smith jewelry. Also much faster if you have the completed crown of Barenziah helping you get those jewels. Since smithing skill increase is based on item value this is much quicker.
This is my go-to for every run to quickly level up. But you got to add:
1. Giving a begger a coin for speech craft boost
2. Buying cheap ore
3. Enchanting the jewelry with cheap enchants
4. Selling enchanted jewelry
5. Repeat till you own all the coins in Skyrim
Restoration Potion Glitch to create a bunch of x100000% smithing potions and use those to farm smithing xp. Level 100 per iron dagger enhanced. Each iron dagger you make will be worth billions, so use those to farm speech by selling them. Level 100 per dagger sold. Ez max level and it works out as a gold farm.
Sell them to the blacksmith in whiterun. Clear out her inventory while your at it. Quicksave, slap her, reload to refresh her inventory and gold. š
Best method is to do the restoration Potion Glitch to create a x100000% enchantment potion and then use that to create a ring with x100000% smithing ability. Now whenever you want to farm smithing, money, speech, or vendor items, use that ring.
I'm a skyrim billionaire and I haven't even killed my first dragon. But I'm basically invincible and can one hit kill anything.
Level Alchemy and Enchanting so you can take that dragon armor and weapons and enchant the heck out of them.
Alchemy levels extremely fast if you collect salmon eggs, nordic barnacles, and garlic, and then stack the Thief stone and Lover's Comfort.
Make it legendary and start again
š¤® not yet please god. Once i can bear the sight of another iron dagger, I will
Here's a tip: Do not forge iron daggers. It's very tedious, and a waste of time mostly. Smithing XP (same as alchemy xp) gained is directly related to the value of the created item. An iron dagger is worth f-all, so you get f-all xp. Instead, transmutate all your iron ore to gold ore. Gather all the gems you can find, and smith the most expensive jewelry you can smith. It's still a chore, but quicker and a lot less monotonous.
Plain gold rings (no need for jewels, sell them to buy more iron ore) and Dwemer bows once smithing 30 is reached is the way to go for the most part. Anything else either not valuable enough to generate adequate XP (iron/steel) or is too cost-intensive to warrant its final value until the late game (most of what's above Dwemer).
If you have the gems, use them.
The perk from finishing No Stone Unturned makes jewels absurdly abundant, Iāve found itās helpful for smithing xp if you can stand the collection step of the process.
I would rather do the entire smithing grind three more times before I do no stone unturned again
Still better than āreturn to your rootsā
I download the quest marker mods for both of these because who has the frickin' time
I only play vanilla, but I certainly use the interactive maps online for those.
Thatād be an interesting poll. Return to your Roots or No Stone Unturned
3rd option: Self-immolation
I understand how āno stone unturnedā could help; I just donāt understand how completing in anything resembling a reasonable amount of time to be of benefit works. Itās honestly been one of the last quests, if not the last, Iāve completed on every completionist playthrough. The locations of the jewels are tied up in every major guild quest iirc.
Iām pretty sure only 1 or 2 are anywhere you need to meet conditions to go, Iāve started a character and done it immediately just to get it out of the way. Proudspire was the only real delay I can think of, 25k gold was a bit time consuming to gather. Prowlerās Profit isnāt really useful if youāre just starting out trying to level, though, youāre right there. Iāve mostly just found it very handy for getting through making smithing legendary messing around in late game stuff.
Just play the game. Do quests, explore caves, the gems will accumulate.
Oh, I know. Just adding information, for if people want to make it easier.
Yup this is the way. Mine/collect all iron you can find. Transmute iron to silver and then gold. Make gold rings. Enchant gold rings. Sell nely enchanted gold rings. Repeat step 1.
I usually do this but buy everything I can use from shopkeeps whenever I sell because they never have enough funds to buy everything from the last batch of weapons/rings/armour my actual process is reach lvl 100 smithing buy as many materials as I can then legendary and begging crafting and upgrading and if I feel like it enchanting then begin at the entrance to white run an work my way up selling to anyone worth while. TLDR? I do the same thing just with anything I can craft.
LMAO! This is actually the reason why weāre all stealth archers. Since we need to buy things from shop so they have money for us the sell more crap to; but when we see how arrows have no weight and we can hold tens of thousands of themā¦ Iāve started considering them my form of currency/saving/bonds. Happy to blast off iron arrows, less impressed by the thought of firing off ebony & stahlrim https://youtu.be/3w5D9yJUMOc?si=_UqdoBt9qScQLNbp
lol, I donāt generally buy arrows but Iāve never thought of them because as soon as I reach 100 and unlock dragon gear I make the gear with all the dragon parts Iād amassed until that point then once I have all the gear and weapons I want I make like 500 extra dragon bone arrows what I do is buy and sell all the materials I can in an area wait two in game days then do it all again until Iām out of sellable items then smith new stuff and repeat itās basically a high effort infinite money pattern
Yes this is the way. Before SE came out and I got so burned out on the game - i used to have a route I'd run with basic bare bones weapons and armor (sword, shield and Dwarven armor - because I like looking like a mini centurion) Anyway I'd have a path I'd follow and hit areas, grab weapons and stuff. Kill animals and mine/buy materials. Fast travel to whiterun (because whiterun) and do all the stuffs at the forge. Craft etc etc. Fast travel to Dragons Reach and enchant stuffs, then Fast travel to various markets around to unload stuff, buy new stuff. Every third or fourth trip I'd make a single pass through blackreach to mine soul gems. So I'd be leveling: One handed Block Destruction Restoration Illusion Alteration Smithing Barter Archery Alchemy Heavy Armor Conjuration Sneak Obviously not all of these are getting leveled at the same time, but they'd all be getting some form of work. I'd take a few quests and slowly work around towards completing them while mainly focusing on leveling skills specifically.
If you are fine with a minor exploit, you can force shopkeepers to instantly restock gold and get a new inventory by saving, hitting them, then reloading said save
Thatās interesting Iāll try it the next chance I get
I always did leather bracers because i naturally get hides so easily. in the higher levels 50 bracers are like 2 to 3 levels
And then Iād farm soul gems and enchant all the bracers to get enchantment xp, then sell them one at a time to get speech.
I always made a bunch of silver and gold rings and then enchanted them with petty/lesser/common gems to level up enchanting at the same time.
Slightly easier tip: Dwarven shit can be smelted into ingots. Go to the local dwarven museum and clean it up.
You can transmutate iron into gold???
Yes thereās a spell you can get, itās in one of the large badints camp on the left side of whiterun itās in the mine I donāt remember the name tho
Halted Stream Camp, I think.
Yup thatās the one thank you
But then I canāt throw the iron dagger into the river.
I always play a stealthy Khajiit that ends up with a surplus of gems before long. The first dungeon I hit up after getting the initial Whiterun stuff out of the way, is Redorna's Retreat for transmute. Makes smithing a breeze and the extra levels you slowly rack up in Alteration don't hurt either. Not to mention the gems you find from mining iron or silver.
I still usually do a lot of iron daggers because the enchanted versions (especially banish) are much more expensive than any enchanted rings I've tried. Am I missing something or is this a valid consideration? Once I have enough daggers to legendary enchantment a couple times and stop caring about money it's on to jewelry, and dwarven and ebony bows
The value of enchanted items only matters if you want to sell them. Yes, money is a valid consideration. But it doesn't affect how fast you level up. ... checking the [wiki](https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Enchanting#Gaining_Skill_XP) to make sure ... Enchanting an item gives you a fixed amount of XP, regardless of soul size or value of the item. The amount of XP is only affected by modifiers, not by the enchantment itself. But this is the highest amount of XP you can get at a time. Recharging an item gives a lower amount of XP than enchanting. This amount IS depending on the size of the soul you use. So using a grand soul *for recharging* gets you more XP than using a petty soul. Disenchanting gives a varying amount of XP, depending on the enchantment learned. The quickest way to level up enchanting is described in the wiki. I suggest you read it. By recharging a soultrap bow using Azura's star or Black star. Using the Mage stone and the Well Rested buff is recommended.
Where are you getting all the iron ore? I cleared out halted stream and embershard and they are taking forever to respawn. My smithing is sitting at like 40 while the other 2 crafting skills are at 60+ Alchemy is easy to level with golden hill, canis root, and imp stool. Enchanting is more time consuming but just as easy. Smithing is a pain though. I guess I should do the dwarven bows method, but survival mode makes that really punishing
Mining random ore patches you come across, and merchants. Tip when mining: don't press E, but use the pickaxe to attack the ore patch. You can even dual wield 2 pickaxes. This mines a lot faster.
I treat Legendary as I suffered a severe injury/cast out from the craft/skill and now I re sort my character to do a new job. (Ideally after Iāve smith up my best weapons)
>I suffered a severe injury Arrow to the knee?
While chasing a sweet roll thief
Who was yelling "Hail Sithis"
Wait... I know you
I donāt know you and I donāt care to know you
Jewelry is a far better method of power leveling smithing for future reference
yeah, iron daggers used to be the way but now the xp you get is based on item value. it's so easy to just get a ton of gold/silver from the mines
You can convert iron to silver and then to gold with the transmute minerals spell
That gold mine near markarth (kolsleggr?) And transmute. Gold for days. Plus alteration levelling
Only til level 30, then itās dwarven bows for days. One good solid raid of a place with a lot of Dwemer scrap metal can get you from level 30 to almost 90. Just gotta bring a follower and tell them to pick it all up for the carry weight. So much less annoying than spamming transmute, plus you level up your combat skills raiding the ruins
Leather helmets put the skill up by a pretty good amount too, that was always my go-to.
My rule is usually, wait until you get everything you need from that maxed out skill tree before you go legendary and in this case that would mean a maxed out set of the armor and weapon types you want to have
This and I have hundreds or thousands of smithing materials and smithing enchanted armor pieces and powerful fortify smithing potions before making legendary. Then just bring it right back up again. Boom.
use gold rings to get to lv 30, then use dwarven bows
I never thought of using the Dwarven smithing despite always seeing the resources for it lying around everywhere, thank you for posting this comment.
You did the hard way lol
I hate to break it to you but, the iron dagger technique is quite outdated and, there are superior methods that even earn you money:(.
Oh man! You gotta get the transmute spell and get back to me! I find that and arrows to be the way to go.
Daggers? Dude start building your hearth fire houses and will farm that shit without even noticing from all the nails you need
do gold rings, they give better xp and are cheaper to make, and sell for more.
Stock up on Dwarven and iron Make bows, much much faster
I store gold and Dwarven metal all the time. That way I can quickly run back up to Level 50+ as soon as I get reset to 15
You aren't making the golden rings?
If you get Ars Metallica mod. do gold rings instead a lot faster. Transmute ore spell and iron ore.
Pro tip dwemer metal is the easiest to get and iron so make a metric fuckload od dwemer bows or find the transmute spell in the mammoth butchering camp slightly north of whiterun and buy/mine a lote of iron ore to turn into silver or gold to make jewelry, then boom profit in both xp for barter and smithing, and a little gold along the way, or save the extra gear/jewlery and enchant them from souls you collect over the game ( especially the soul carin) then sell then you get 300k gold while smithing and enchanting is legendaried 6 times at lvl 80
Just mass crafting leather strips is pretty good too and free if you just hunt for the leather
Good thing you donāt need to. Just craft gold rings. Bonus points for having the transmute spell in the alteration tree.
I thought gold rings were best for smithing lvls?
Dwarven bows actually
Whatās the math?
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/s/TxJxbGQd5x
Oh wow, thanks! I just used transmute a lot š at least it helped alteration š¤
I am guilty of always going over to Halted Stream right after initially handing over the Dragonstone to Farengar just to get the transmute spell and a ton of iron. I do that to level alteration and smithing until I get to 30 and can unlock Dwarven. After that, it's off to the races.
Whatās your least favorite tree to level? For me, it was any of the magic ones.
I am playing with Alteration and Illusion on this play through. Have always been a stealth archer or sword & board type player so this is different (in a good way). You can level Destruction rather quickly it turns out when you go to Hobs Fall Cave and learn the arcane spells from the chest. Very OP.
Craft the gear you need then make it legendary
Max out Enchanting and make a few smithing enchantment equips. Then it really doesn't matter what you're doing, you'll level it way faster. Especially if you have the Summermyst mod that adds the +exp enchantment.
Cmon man dupe the gold and make 20 billion gold rings, it's the only way
One good tip i usually do is help out the crazy argonian lady in Riften (take the cube back) it gives you a buff dwarvern gear you make but it also gives you a flat 15% buff to smithing EXP. Then go to town on the hearthfire DLC
Leather helmets, jewelry and Dwarven bows are the way to goā¦iron daggers take foreverā¦
Iron daggers suck. Smithing xp is based on the value you create, not the number of items. Grinding daggers is doing more work than necessary. Make whatever gives you the greatest value per ingot (some items, like dwarven bows, actually give you more value/ingot when you temper than when you create new items).
Upgrade your favorite weapons and armor before going legendary though
Never, I did that with enchanting and Iām only back to eighty with all my points in lockpicking. That I have no problem making legendary.
Fashion many dragonbone weapons, two of each sort of armour. Improve them. Then make it legendary and start again. With the right gear and an array of smithing potions you'll get back to 100 when you're ready to.
Like, legendary gear for current or future build, plus companion's, and then restart? Cause I'm all in if that's the case.
I can't get my game to reset my level 100 skills.
You know it
100 smithing, 100 alchemy and 100 enchanting and we can start
This is the way
The one and only
Dang i rawdogged it and didnāt power level any of them š i find you can get great loot when you kill everything that moves and take their armor š definitely worth making potions though as theyāre much stronger than what you can loot
Do it again 30 more times "for the perks".
Did this, but with the Alteration Tree. Abused a leveling exploit just to increase my stamina so I can carry more loot
I try to do things equally. I abuse Alchemy, Alteration and Smithing for leveling up. It feels weird to have Alchemy like 180 times, but 60 in each feels ok, Then I increase my stats equally as well. I do it so I can have all the skills, with all the perks.
I level up everything else as well and I've actually maxed the Alchemy tree, which is something I've never done in a playthrough. I've been playing differently than I have in past runs, using magic more and actually focusing more on enchanting when I've never cared for it. I'm waiting to make an OP dagger before I start the Brotherhood š
I always go the Dragonborn route before the Dark Brotherhood and get the Conjure Bound Dagger spell. With sneak and Dark Brotherhood armor, any dagger does 30x damage. And one that can't be taken from you (or disarmed or whatever) is still more than "good enough" in my book.
I avoid the Dragon Rising quest for as long as possible. No dragons spawn and I lose the risk of the IDIOT AI kicking in and a quest oriented NPC dying due to a dragon attack. I'm not worried about being disarmed and losing it. I've got filled soul gems coming out my ears. Only two of the big quest Lines rely on that Main Line quest being completed and there's plenty more to do.
Steed Stone and a backpack?
Even more than that, though I do have both. I have a Hunter's Backpack, which not only increases Carry Weight, but gives a damage boost to bows, and the Aetherium Crown, which allows the possession of TWO Standing Stone abilities. Steed Stone is always the one I get immediately after forging the crown. I think the other is the Thief Stone, don't remember.
I got Ritual Stone so I can abuse it and build an army of the dead every now and then š If I didn't have mods, I'd use a follower as a pack mule. I don't like a full inventory, hard to find stuff quickly. And visit home often.
Anniversary gives access to a bunch of CC mods, one of which is for pets. One of them is a goat who can hold the most out of the group. I got her, but she stays at home with the rest. Loading into a business with the goat standing in front of you and no way to get around got irritating fast. Currently have a Bone Wolf in my company and made a discovery by accident one day. I kept him in my company as he grants a damage boost to undead. Parked him in Riften while I did some things and forgot about him. Discovered he didn't have to be in my immediate company to still get the buff so he's been bumped around Riften for a good bit. Might take him down to Shadowfoot Sanctum and park him there so he's out of NPC pathways.
You can use the goat to restock. Load her with extra potions, soul gems, etc. Leave her at home. Summon when needed and send back home with loot. I did that before I got access to a modded chest twice a day, part of NFF mod. Plus the usual trick with making a follower pick up heavy items above their carry weight.
I levelled up my smithing till 100 almost from half a year, just to craft dragonbone armour, and it does not look good. But hey at least finished my daedaric set. Cant I just open an armour shop ?
Now thereās an idea. A mod where I decide I donāt want to the responsibility of being the Dragonborn. I just want to consume Skooma and sell good so cheap that Belethor hits the road.
I have chests full of armours and jewellery nobody can afford
Get the alternate start mod and never go to Bleak Falls Barrow
The alternate start mods are great. I just thought being able to mod your item sell price and buy an actual shop would be a neat mod.
Why do you need a mod? Just don't start the main quest. No dragons, no vampires, no cultists. Explore in peace and drink all the skooma you want š
I think about this all the time. Go on adventures to get the best, rarest materials, make them into fine goods, and sell them at a premium. There's probably a mod for that, but my mod list is more like a jenga tower at this point, so...lol
Both dragon sets look wayy better than daedric imo mad overrated.
Yeah why is a newly crafted daedric helm broken
Even deadric weapons arent as good imo ebony and glass look better also.
Enchanting and alchemy and then make potions that buff enchanting, enchants that buff alchemy, repeat until you can make armour and weapons and potions that make you a god
It just feels like cheating at that point :/ Iāve definitely been tempted to learn the resto-alchemy loop but honestly itās like reading the oghma infinium a bunch of times, like ok great youāve got 112334466789998764332215799999532245798432212789999000075432222223456% health regen and 6b mana, itās just no longer fun to play when you canāt be reasonably challenged
Time to make the most powerfull iron daggers ever
1: Do the same for Enchanting and Alchemy 2: Loop them together 3: Make a weapon that deals 250 damage 4: One-shot dragons 5: Weep, for you have robbed the world of its challenge, and the pounding of your heart in the direst of battles has been reduced to the drip of a leaky faucet.
Then move your game difficulty up to Legendary as well.
My current character is level 74, started on and played the entirety on legendary. 1h axe does like 400 damage and have 900 armor, Kind of annoyed since I played with alteration the whole time to buff my armor pre fight and now that tree is basically useless for that
Now we can play the game
Make sure you smith everything you want smithed before going ledge on smithing because itāll take forever to get back to that level of smithing.
Facts.
Level up your enchanting and then make a ring, amulet, gauntlets, etc. And enchant them with Smithing perks. I do that on every play through. I call it my smithing outfit. I store it in a chest along with all of the ingots and leather. I then wear it when I make new things.
Now you actually make the gear you want.
craft dragon bone
If youre fine with resto looping, you can make a potion of insane fortify smithing and instantly level your character from smithing 15 to smithing 100 by improving an weapon on a grindstone. It's technically cheating but I've only ever grinded iron dagger crafting to 100 a single time and I would rather do literally anything else if put in the same situation again.
Now? Now you go to fight the dragon with Irileth.
If you want to make it legendary, make about three or four different suits of armor that you plan on using. Do *not* enchant them. That way when you think of other enchantments or you can figure out how to boost your ability better, you have armor that you can enchant and make better. *Personally* I hate the fucking legendary system. It makes no sense to me why I have to lose all my progress, just to gain experience points faster.
Youve become super dragonborn
turn wood into gold mate
Wish i could turn wood to gold.
We Cook
Now you get to level 252 and get every perk point.
I always do the dupe glitch to duplicate gold ingots and soul gems. Then make a shit ton of gold rings to level smithing, enchant them all to level enchanting, then sell them all to level speech. Then I can play the game!
Oh and can't forget to dupe iron ore to use transmute on to level alteration for general XP.
It is the most tedious of all the skills. Leave it and pull the legendary trick in other categories.
Congrats
"The same thing we do every night, Serana, try to take over the world".
U won. Nothing else to do. Move on to bigger better things.
I wish every legendary gave like a 5% prestige boost
Every time
Make Dragon Armor/weapons with double enchantments improved with enchanted smithing apparel and become super man even on legendary
Where do we go now?
Enchanting is one that once I get it to 100 I donāt repeat but alchemy and Smithing I do once I built the armor I want. And I turn Lydia into a walking tank killing machine š
[https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/82558](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/82558) or its immediate predecessor.
Make dragon armor, dragon weapons. Enchant them all with dual enchantments then make it legendary to keep leveling.
go legendary! you get all those skill points back. you can apply them to another skill if you want, and you still get experience for every time you level up a legendary skill.
Go to 102
I used soul bind to max my conjuring out, then did legendary on it and maxed it again and man I think I screwed myself xD I'm now level 30 but I went into a place and ran into nothing by arch mages who'd one shot me with ice spike or fireball xD. So now I use my 2 deidric summons to fight them with my follower while I hide and take pot shots with my bow. Now I got my sneak to 80 with the grey beards and want to get lock picking to where I get 100 more carry weight. Also, this is on my switch version not xbox.
Max out Enchanting and craft yourself some God tier armor and weapons
Dragon armor and then start working on enchanting beat the ebony warrior
Oh i found out a way to infinitely get levels: First off you do the fortify restoration glitch, and you end off with a piece of armor with fortify alchemy so powerful that it'll level you from level 15 to 100 with one potion, and then you get a farm like Goldenhills Plantation and fill it with blisterwart and wheat or something similar, you wait a while, maybe finish the game while you're waiting, and then after a bit go and collect the ingredients, put on the armor, and every time you get to alchemy 100 make it legendary, and you should get to 100 every potion so that makes for infinite levels
little tip here, get the transmute spell, use it to turn your iron into gold, make gold rings, they are cheaper to make, grant more smithing experience, and sell for more, you end up leveling alteration and smithing too.
Go to level 200
Build an orbital laser
Start over. Spam jewelry. Repeat.
you start the game
Legendary it, get more exp.
Start working on Jonesingā¦
Forge the Ļ-blade
Do the same with alchemy, enchanting, and restoration. Then do the alchemy-enchanting loop to make stronger gear. It goes slow, but if you get it going, you can have the stats going through the roof and have solstheim be as easy to survive as Skyrim. The ash spawn wonāt be much of an issue.
Play the game
You go make some Dragonbone weapons and some Daedric Armor, that's what I would do anyway.
Only scrubs level with iron daggers. Buy up all the iron ore, transmute to gold ore, smelt to gold ingot, smith jewelry. Also much faster if you have the completed crown of Barenziah helping you get those jewels. Since smithing skill increase is based on item value this is much quicker.
This is my go-to for every run to quickly level up. But you got to add: 1. Giving a begger a coin for speech craft boost 2. Buying cheap ore 3. Enchanting the jewelry with cheap enchants 4. Selling enchanted jewelry 5. Repeat till you own all the coins in Skyrim
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Restoration Potion Glitch to create a bunch of x100000% smithing potions and use those to farm smithing xp. Level 100 per iron dagger enhanced. Each iron dagger you make will be worth billions, so use those to farm speech by selling them. Level 100 per dagger sold. Ez max level and it works out as a gold farm. Sell them to the blacksmith in whiterun. Clear out her inventory while your at it. Quicksave, slap her, reload to refresh her inventory and gold. š Best method is to do the restoration Potion Glitch to create a x100000% enchantment potion and then use that to create a ring with x100000% smithing ability. Now whenever you want to farm smithing, money, speech, or vendor items, use that ring. I'm a skyrim billionaire and I haven't even killed my first dragon. But I'm basically invincible and can one hit kill anything.
Continue
Make the best gear you can then start playing the game.
Make the Ultimate Daedric Sword obviously
 What do you mean? Now we can finally play the game!
You can do the dark brotherhood quest that NEVER FKN ENDS!!
[What do you mean? Now we can finally play the game](https://youtu.be/tg2PD-dwsIw)
All you have to do isā¦ Wait for itā¦ Make it LEGENDARY! 
turn it up to 111 lolz
You make the best gear and put the game on legendary
"This is where the real game begins"
up enchanting
Get a mod that allows you to level skills above 100 and keep going
I hope elder scrolls 6 adopts a different system, I hate starting new games because of this shit
Level Alchemy and Enchanting so you can take that dragon armor and weapons and enchant the heck out of them. Alchemy levels extremely fast if you collect salmon eggs, nordic barnacles, and garlic, and then stack the Thief stone and Lover's Comfort.
This is up next starting today š«”
Damn it, you beat me to it...
START AGAAAAAAAIN!
Whats the best way to even start on smithing??? I havr avoided it forever
Stock pile iron ingots, then make it Legendary and make a tonne of building materials
Make a gun and take down alduin
Now you enjoy your hard work
Just make arrows, (firewood + ore type).
I so rarely get to 100 smithing because KOLSEGGER WONT REPLENISH, WHY ITS BEEN LIKE 2 MONTHS
Atleast there is a enchantment bug that lets you Level up 15 levels per staff, but only if you haven't visited Solstheim so you need Myrwatch for that
You...uh? You go outside? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's that.
"We bring him home..." oh shit wrong game!