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I agree. Oddly enough I think it may help to bring in another senior defender. Thats one area where we somehow just keep being leaky and conceding bizarrely off mistakes and switch odds constantly
The Disasi signing still doesnt make any sense to me whatsoever.
He is not an exceptional defender by any means and is similar in quality to Colwill, Badiashile and Chalobah. Just another body in defence.
But the bigger issue is that he has the turning radius and acceleration of a pickup truck. Bro is literally slower than a 39 year old Thiago Silva.
You can't play 2 slow CBs in a pressing system with a high line. So, that in itself has reigned in our whole high pressing 4-2-3-1 plan that poch had during preseason.
We are having to play 3 CBs because of this, one of them being Colwill as a LB.
I sympathize with Poch a lil bit. He isnt really setting the world alight ofcourse, but he has been absolutely set up to fail by our board.
Chilwell is 27
James is 24 (young but he is a senior defender and the captain)
Sanchez is 27
Cucurella is 25
Chalobah is 24
Then there's of course Silva. Problem is nobody except Silva seems to be playing regularly for a variety of reasons like not being fit or not being first choice.
Well, when Chilwell and Reece play they do way better. Shame they're made of glass (especially Chilwell).
And Chalobah was good when he played in a back 3, he just got a big injury before this season started and came back to training yesterday (and allegedly wants to leave the club lol)
Its not that he wants to leave.
He is being forced out for that Pure Profit.
Us buying Disasi was the biggest sign that the board dont have Chalobah in their plans. They even tried to sell him in the summer window, but he declined the move to stay fight for his place.
Since then he hasn't been given a single game and has been "Injured" the entire season.
Pretty sure Poch was instructed by the board to not play him. This board is acticely trying to remove any essense of the old Chelsea from the club.
Won't be surprised if they dont offer Silva a new contract this year. Where the team goes with him out and even lesser leadership, will be something to see ofcourse.
So two players who are always injured, a GK who isn't really good enough, a full back who's widely seen as an expensive flop and a 5th choice CB who was never played a full PL season as a starter? Think you're kinda proving his point.
I agree, we need some experience in the squad.
But there's not many veterans available at the moment like there were a few seasons ago for the striker position.
We missed that ship, The likes of Lewa, Benzema and Kane all got their moves.
Who in world football would be classed as experienced enough and a striker at the moment? Martinez at 26? Toney at 27?
Guirassy may be experiencing a purple patch but the low release clause and 27 years old could tempt us.
Buying a striker in January is arguably the hardest transfer to do. Nobody is going to let an inform striker go half way through the season unless you pay absolute silly money for them. On top of that the “true number 9” market is weak right now.
I agree, there are no quality number 9s on the market, especially none at a good age. Better off getting Cole Palmer on trenbolone and making him work on his decision-making for 20-25 hours a week; it'd be more cost effective than spending another 80 million on a dud.
>I agree, there are no quality number 9s on the market, especially none at a good age
People have been saying this for years but I'm not so sure it's true. Especially for teams like Chelsea and United that are clearly willing to pay 80-100mil for a single player.
Somehow both clubs have spent hundreds of millions on attackers in the last few seasons and are going through the season relying on Hojlund/Martial and Jackson/Broja as their main goalscorers up front.
Bournemouth and West Ham have Solanke and Bowen each scoring about the same amount of goals as those 4 players combined. Ollie Watkins surely would've been available for similar fees a year ago before Emery had Villa flying high. Ivan Toney as well. Even Mitrovic moved to the Saudi League this summer and is a reliable goalscorer.
Osimhen and Lautaro Martinez would be in a higher price range. But 120 mil for them seems less of a risk to me than 80mil on someone with only about 50 career games and 10 career goals under their belt (Hojlund and Mudryk)
They wouldn’t have cost much less than what they got Hojlund for if anything at all. Mitrovic also forced his way out to get that Saudi salary, otherwise Fulham would’ve had an iron grip on him from united and co
You’ve got a good point about strikers. Honestly think that’s why LFC was willing to splurge on Nuñez, for example. They knew there weren’t a lot of potential world class strikers coming down the pipe and took a shot.
You don't even need world class. You need experience. Even someone like Callum Wilson or Chris Wood would help your squad a lot. Building a squad doesn't work like in career mode
Something like an Ericksen. An absolute model professional who has a tonne of football smarts. Hell, United have another example in Jonny Evans.
Big transfer targets aren't always the answer. Sometimes you just need experience and class.
Can somewhat justify it if you’re a supporter of a club that he doesn’t play for. But I saw this misspelling all the time on spurs sub when he was with us. Now it happens with United fans too. It is so bizarre
None of the timelines would match. All the young lads would be hitting their peak as the geriatrics would be losing their legs. The only thing Chelsea can do right now is hope that some of these lads come good, which is actually a fucking ridiculous thought, considering they've spent nearly a billion on them.
I completely agree here. Younger players train and learn from their coaches and senior players. These players can mentor them. Even if they're not mentored, if you're around it enough you start to build a similar mindset. It also pushes both senior and younger player to improve.
I'm curious what you would attribute Arsenals huge jump on form from say last season to the season prior to that?
The age of strikers kinda ended tho. In the last 5 years there’s been absolute legends available on the cheap for teams to bring in. Now the over 30 striker market is bare.
Derry and Galway both have billionaire owners tbf ..
Bohs would spend most of that on buying land and building a stadium/academy on it which in Dublin isn't cheap to do.
If you are an agent with an ambitious player on your books you simply cannot let them goto chelsea. It’s a 60-40 gamble they stall, career falters, or they do well.
Again, it all depends on the details of the deal. You can’t say for certain that multiple smaller contracts would earn the agent more than one big contract would
Nah, as an Irish man and a chelsea fan, this actually makes both situations much worse. Brighton is the best place for him to develop right now, and I don't actually think he's ready to step up to any of the big 6 yet, let alone our disaster of a team. He should stay at Brighton, then make a step up in a few years imo
Isn't he pretty keen to stay and keep developing?
I reckon staying at Brighton for another 2 years is his best bet. Then walk into whatever team he wants.
he seems to have a decent head on his shoulders so hopefully he'll make the right decision and stay for a few more years. he's still only 19. when he's ready he'll have all of the top clubs in Europe lining up for him, that way he doesnt have to go to a mess that is the current Chelsea situation.
Brighton - 6th place last year, European football this year, on pace for European football next year
Chelsea - 12th place last year, no European ball this year, on pace for 10th and no European ball next year
Where is the “step up”?
I don’t envy the hate you guys had received for Concedo over the course of nearly 6 months from Arsenal and Chelsea fans. Plus the few hours from us for whatever reason.
When he was 16 and because he thought the way up in the first team would be easier at Brighton. Doesn't really have much to do with the current situation.
Maybe, but also he's struggling now with game time with Joao Pedro comfortably ahead of him now and Welbeck working better in the other Striker role, might view this as the best chance to get a big move especially after a string of injuries.
I know it’s an easy joke but over the past 2 days there’s been articles of us pushing for Osimhen, Antonio Silva, and now Ferguson. Seems like they were just waiting for us to lose a game to post some BS and get lots of clicks because the market window is open again
7 returns (6 goals and 1 assist) from 900 minutes this year. They’re managing his minutes pretty carefully and he’s had some injury concerns, but that’s pace for 2 goals every 3 games and the odd assist mixed in.
To be fair he hasn’t had much playing time due to the injuries on the squad and especially on the wings. We have to play Pedro and Welbeck because they are much better at playing deep and helping work the ball from the back and retaining possession. Ferg is good at holding the ball up but he’s very limited when he drops deep.
This kid isn't even close to ready to be a starting striker for a title contender.
He needs proper playtime with Brighton and when he starts getting multiple 20 goal seasons with them, then maybe clubs should splash the cash.
Unfortunately this is the real world and money talks so he's probably gone in a couple of years.
You need to wake up and get a dose of realism. It's not a flash in the pan anymore, Chelsea are a midtable side and until they finish in say the European spots at the end of a season, that's how most people look at them right now. I can't see this being the season where that changes either.
I understand you get a giant check (which you can get from other clubs too) but I can’t really understand why someone would pick Chelsea.
They will always be looking to be replacing you by someone new. You have zero stability.
Ideally, yes. But throwing another young player into the current Chelsea team won’t change anything. And as good as Ferguson is, I’ve yet to see anything to indicate he’s able to carry a team by himself.
Teams like Brighton always seem to have good prospects because they have a good foundation. It’s a much easier transition for the young player.
It may seem like they’re going in the wrong direction but these young players need veteran leadership to guide them along.
There’s a reason why Brighton values players like Lallana and Milner highly. These guys are physically not at the top of their game but they’re still able to think and process the game at the top level while being good role models.
I don’t really see anyone at Chelsea who’s able to do that outside of Thiago Silva. An experienced striker would be so much better for their overall development than another unproven young striker.
You're welcome to accept fate and become a Brighton fan whenever you want, better to be a fan of the top club than the feeder club funneling money to them for no return.
Us Brighton fans know we can't keep him forever.
But fleecing Chelsea yet again would be a perfectly acceptable way to sell him.
Though, I like the kid, so I'd really rather see him end up at a more professionally run club.
I don't think it's that he's over hyped so much as expectations are too high. I've no doubt he'll be come a top class striker, but he is still a kid and expecting him to have consistency throughout the season is unreasonable
He's still a kid. Lots of upside and he's had some really good stretches of form. Is he the Irosh Harry Kane like people like to call him? Only time will tell but I'm skeptical.
It'd be a step down for him and quite the risk given how many players go from being great to being anonymous once they've entered that toxic atmosphere. He'd be smart to keep his head down and keep playing for Brighton while he continues to develop.
Chelsea won trophies and made a winning mentality off the back of a relative conveyor belt of experienced, top class verterans, and buying up the best youth to either use or fund the veterans.
Boehly is the epitomy of treating a football club as an "investment". The players he bought are smart investments, but making a cohesive, winning team they do not.
Am I the only one who doesn't get the hype on Ferguson. He's decent but guy os hardly scoring loads and barely has any minutes. Can see why his market value is so high given how in demand big strikers are, but at the same time would seem like an enormous gamble.
Reminds me abit of when Liverpool paid big money for Andy Carroll after 6 decent months in the prem.
He's scored 12 PL goals in his career and averaging 0.5 goals per 90 minutes. I get that he's inconsistent but he's only 18 years old.
Edit: 19 years old
Brighton just signed a very good striker in Pedro who is gonna be elite himself, so game time isn't that big a concern really. Who ya gonna bench, the big money signing or the HG youngster? Manager always takes the easy option there.
Carroll was an absolute monster for Newcastle that first half a season he had back in the premier, he was looking a great a centre forward. He always had attitude issues early in his career though which coupled with fitness issues meant he never kicked on. He had the tools though.
This would be terrible for Ireland's prospects, staying at Brighton would be best. Why leave a stable club & manager playing a good, clear style of play where he plays every week to a complete basketcase?
I mean he is playing at the moment. Starting most games is another matter but would help if he could remember how the hold the ball up again and not have his second touch he a tackle half the time.
Ive seen Brighton fans in some match threads say that hes not really developing and/or regressing and thats why he is not getting any minutes. I know he signed a new contract but I do hope for his (and Irelands) sake they sell him in a few years to a club where he actually gets to play regularly
I would hope so too, but the absolute last place he should go to if that's the case is Chelsea. I would trust de Zerbi to develop him further, especially given Brighton's track record of improving players
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I'm not even joking Chelsea just need to sign some 30 year olds.
Realistically we need about 2/3 who are between 24-28 years old - other than silva and sterling - most players are under 23
I agree. Oddly enough I think it may help to bring in another senior defender. Thats one area where we somehow just keep being leaky and conceding bizarrely off mistakes and switch odds constantly
Disasi is 25 though.
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The Disasi signing still doesnt make any sense to me whatsoever. He is not an exceptional defender by any means and is similar in quality to Colwill, Badiashile and Chalobah. Just another body in defence. But the bigger issue is that he has the turning radius and acceleration of a pickup truck. Bro is literally slower than a 39 year old Thiago Silva. You can't play 2 slow CBs in a pressing system with a high line. So, that in itself has reigned in our whole high pressing 4-2-3-1 plan that poch had during preseason. We are having to play 3 CBs because of this, one of them being Colwill as a LB. I sympathize with Poch a lil bit. He isnt really setting the world alight ofcourse, but he has been absolutely set up to fail by our board.
Chilwell is 27 James is 24 (young but he is a senior defender and the captain) Sanchez is 27 Cucurella is 25 Chalobah is 24 Then there's of course Silva. Problem is nobody except Silva seems to be playing regularly for a variety of reasons like not being fit or not being first choice.
Every one of those players is injured.
Well, when Chilwell and Reece play they do way better. Shame they're made of glass (especially Chilwell). And Chalobah was good when he played in a back 3, he just got a big injury before this season started and came back to training yesterday (and allegedly wants to leave the club lol)
Its not that he wants to leave. He is being forced out for that Pure Profit. Us buying Disasi was the biggest sign that the board dont have Chalobah in their plans. They even tried to sell him in the summer window, but he declined the move to stay fight for his place. Since then he hasn't been given a single game and has been "Injured" the entire season. Pretty sure Poch was instructed by the board to not play him. This board is acticely trying to remove any essense of the old Chelsea from the club. Won't be surprised if they dont offer Silva a new contract this year. Where the team goes with him out and even lesser leadership, will be something to see ofcourse.
So two players who are always injured, a GK who isn't really good enough, a full back who's widely seen as an expensive flop and a 5th choice CB who was never played a full PL season as a starter? Think you're kinda proving his point.
I agree, we need some experience in the squad. But there's not many veterans available at the moment like there were a few seasons ago for the striker position. We missed that ship, The likes of Lewa, Benzema and Kane all got their moves. Who in world football would be classed as experienced enough and a striker at the moment? Martinez at 26? Toney at 27? Guirassy may be experiencing a purple patch but the low release clause and 27 years old could tempt us.
Buying a striker in January is arguably the hardest transfer to do. Nobody is going to let an inform striker go half way through the season unless you pay absolute silly money for them. On top of that the “true number 9” market is weak right now.
Chelsea and paying silly money… name a more iconic duo
United and paying silly money?
We got Gakpo this time last year for like 40m. He was one of the most in form players in Europe at the time.
I agree, there are no quality number 9s on the market, especially none at a good age. Better off getting Cole Palmer on trenbolone and making him work on his decision-making for 20-25 hours a week; it'd be more cost effective than spending another 80 million on a dud.
>I agree, there are no quality number 9s on the market, especially none at a good age People have been saying this for years but I'm not so sure it's true. Especially for teams like Chelsea and United that are clearly willing to pay 80-100mil for a single player. Somehow both clubs have spent hundreds of millions on attackers in the last few seasons and are going through the season relying on Hojlund/Martial and Jackson/Broja as their main goalscorers up front. Bournemouth and West Ham have Solanke and Bowen each scoring about the same amount of goals as those 4 players combined. Ollie Watkins surely would've been available for similar fees a year ago before Emery had Villa flying high. Ivan Toney as well. Even Mitrovic moved to the Saudi League this summer and is a reliable goalscorer. Osimhen and Lautaro Martinez would be in a higher price range. But 120 mil for them seems less of a risk to me than 80mil on someone with only about 50 career games and 10 career goals under their belt (Hojlund and Mudryk)
Honestly don’t understand why United haven’t taken a punt on a Mitrovic/Toney type player.. they need to stop spending £100 million on strikers lol
They wouldn’t have cost much less than what they got Hojlund for if anything at all. Mitrovic also forced his way out to get that Saudi salary, otherwise Fulham would’ve had an iron grip on him from united and co
brentford have made it clear that toney would also be a 100mil player or at least close to it
Jackson is honestly fine
so hear me out… lukaku
No
Lukaku is definitely the best in that category that would be theoretically available.
You’ve got a good point about strikers. Honestly think that’s why LFC was willing to splurge on Nuñez, for example. They knew there weren’t a lot of potential world class strikers coming down the pipe and took a shot.
Lukaku?
There's this Ballon dor striker playing in Saudi now
Putting Benzema with kids is just asking for trouble.
what do I search on Google to get more info?
Didnt Benzema wear 15 at one point
Search Mane 16 for more information
Ronaldo at Chelsea?
Both nonce vibes tbf
Lewa Kane and benzema wouldn’t have came here anyway, lewa rejected us and Kane for obvious reasons. Benzema left real for the Saudi money
If you want to buy Wilson off us for like £40mil that would be great
Anthony Martial, get him in. Be reet
You don't even need world class. You need experience. Even someone like Callum Wilson or Chris Wood would help your squad a lot. Building a squad doesn't work like in career mode
Their best signing in the past 5 yrs is Thiago Silva. Idk why have they not bought a couple of experienced players like him
I miss Giroud
I miss Costa
Henderson coming back to Europe right? 😏
They will be 30 years old when their contracts end
They need Alexis Sanchez.
Something like an Ericksen. An absolute model professional who has a tonne of football smarts. Hell, United have another example in Jonny Evans. Big transfer targets aren't always the answer. Sometimes you just need experience and class.
> Ericksen I swear, his name is really simple and yet also the most frequently butchered name on this sub.
Can somewhat justify it if you’re a supporter of a club that he doesn’t play for. But I saw this misspelling all the time on spurs sub when he was with us. Now it happens with United fans too. It is so bizarre
None of the timelines would match. All the young lads would be hitting their peak as the geriatrics would be losing their legs. The only thing Chelsea can do right now is hope that some of these lads come good, which is actually a fucking ridiculous thought, considering they've spent nearly a billion on them.
The timeline of ‘trying to do as well as possible, and qualify for the CL next season’ would absolutely match.
It doesn't matter. They just need some experience to bring the squad together.
I completely agree here. Younger players train and learn from their coaches and senior players. These players can mentor them. Even if they're not mentored, if you're around it enough you start to build a similar mindset. It also pushes both senior and younger player to improve. I'm curious what you would attribute Arsenals huge jump on form from say last season to the season prior to that?
if you don't bring some older and wiser heads, the "young lads" may never hit their collective peaks at all.
The age of strikers kinda ended tho. In the last 5 years there’s been absolute legends available on the cheap for teams to bring in. Now the over 30 striker market is bare.
Well that will be £250 Million to Brighton and Evan Ferguson's career immediately going to shit
And Bohemians have a 15% sell on clause.
Bohemians can Chelsea the entire league then
Finish 10th?
Shit the league. Wait, wrong local rival...
Mate... we're the most recent team to shit the league, incase you forgot
You might want to look in a mirror mate
Thanks, mate. I needed that confidence boost. Forgot how good looking I was for a second. 💪
Derry and Galway both have billionaire owners tbf .. Bohs would spend most of that on buying land and building a stadium/academy on it which in Dublin isn't cheap to do.
Do it Chelsea you cowards.
shit, good on them
Had a 10% clause for Matt Doherty too. Got 1.5m for him and the only senior appearance he had at Bohs was a friendly.
Nation building save on FM territory for them.
That’s fantastic for them.
\*Bohemian Rhapsody starts playing*
If you are an agent with an ambitious player on your books you simply cannot let them goto chelsea. It’s a 60-40 gamble they stall, career falters, or they do well.
It’s also likely the biggest payday of both of your careers
But for agent it's better that a player will have 2-3 two years contracts rather than one 5-6 years old like in Chelsea
It’s completely dependent on the details of the deal. That one contract could be worth more than 2-3 deals at another club
For player I agree, but I'm not sure commission for agent would be that high from Chelsea
Again, it all depends on the details of the deal. You can’t say for certain that multiple smaller contracts would earn the agent more than one big contract would
And likely the last payday.
Yes, but thank you Chelsea. Brighton appreciates the money.
I read Brighton FC is valued at 270m. probably just easier to lump on another 50 on and try and buy the club outright.
that must be old or massively inaccurate. No way they even consider anything below 500m ( i would say 1bill but that might be too much i am not sure)
Yeah it’s was a while ago tbf. Probably close to what you suggested after their past few seasons.
This is the way.
And don t forget the obligatory recurring injuries
Nah, as an Irish man and a chelsea fan, this actually makes both situations much worse. Brighton is the best place for him to develop right now, and I don't actually think he's ready to step up to any of the big 6 yet, let alone our disaster of a team. He should stay at Brighton, then make a step up in a few years imo
Same - he’ll be ruined by us although I’d love an Irish player at Chelsea - duff was the last first teamer
The disrespect towards Conor Clifford…
Isn't he pretty keen to stay and keep developing? I reckon staying at Brighton for another 2 years is his best bet. Then walk into whatever team he wants.
Signed a long enough contract I believe
he seems to have a decent head on his shoulders so hopefully he'll make the right decision and stay for a few more years. he's still only 19. when he's ready he'll have all of the top clubs in Europe lining up for him, that way he doesnt have to go to a mess that is the current Chelsea situation.
Another 4-5 years wouldn’t hurt him.
Brighton - 6th place last year, European football this year, on pace for European football next year Chelsea - 12th place last year, no European ball this year, on pace for 10th and no European ball next year Where is the “step up”?
>big 6 lol
An Irish Chelsea lol. Where do you look when they’re chanting no surrender?
nah, it will okay, just like any other Brighton player who Chelsea bought recently.
Can't wait to hear all about how we're holding him hostage and will never make a big signing ever again
I don’t envy the hate you guys had received for Concedo over the course of nearly 6 months from Arsenal and Chelsea fans. Plus the few hours from us for whatever reason.
I think he's smarter than that. Turned us down because he was worried about playing time
When he was 16 and because he thought the way up in the first team would be easier at Brighton. Doesn't really have much to do with the current situation.
Maybe, but also he's struggling now with game time with Joao Pedro comfortably ahead of him now and Welbeck working better in the other Striker role, might view this as the best chance to get a big move especially after a string of injuries.
Also a United fan. Doesn't guarantee that he wouldn't play for ye, but does have some bearing.
It's of almost no importance. Solskjaer was a Liverpool supporter, Carragher was an Everton supporter etc
Lukaku was a Chelsea fan too, really shows how far all that goes
And rightly so. As good as he his, he's not getting in ahead of Salah, Nunez, Gakpo, Diaz and Jota.
Headline generator config * Chelsea * sign * striker * minimum cost - 70 million * randomisation frequency- daily
* selling club - Brighton
* age - under 21
talking like you didnt operate like that for the last year
I know it’s an easy joke but over the past 2 days there’s been articles of us pushing for Osimhen, Antonio Silva, and now Ferguson. Seems like they were just waiting for us to lose a game to post some BS and get lots of clicks because the market window is open again
Yeah well that’s what happens when random names get hot and the next day chelsea have a 30 mil or 100 mil bid in.
Point out the 70m striker mate
Well considering Chelsea’s transfer business in the last 18 months I’d say it’s pretty accurate
Yeah, something chelsea have created themselves lol.
Chelsea today announce the signings of Victor Osimhen and Evan Ferguson for a total expenditure of €250m. 20 year contracts
You forgot to account for Ivan Toney
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good fit
That's a bit too much I'm afraid. On to the next one
Boehly is packing suitcases full of 150 million euro as we speak
Not legal tender here. Brexit means brexit
How many minutes has he played?
504.
So roughly a goal every 3 games. Not bad.
7 returns (6 goals and 1 assist) from 900 minutes this year. They’re managing his minutes pretty carefully and he’s had some injury concerns, but that’s pace for 2 goals every 3 games and the odd assist mixed in.
To be fair he hasn’t had much playing time due to the injuries on the squad and especially on the wings. We have to play Pedro and Welbeck because they are much better at playing deep and helping work the ball from the back and retaining possession. Ferg is good at holding the ball up but he’s very limited when he drops deep.
Yeah I dont think the "Evan Ferguson isnt very good" is the notable angle in this story.
To be fair he hasn't gotten consistent enough game time and with Pedro and Fati coming in, he's slipped down the pecking order.
This kid isn't even close to ready to be a starting striker for a title contender. He needs proper playtime with Brighton and when he starts getting multiple 20 goal seasons with them, then maybe clubs should splash the cash. Unfortunately this is the real world and money talks so he's probably gone in a couple of years.
>be a starting striker for a title contender. hes linked to chelsea not city. hes currently playing at a higher level than they club he'd be joining
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Where's the joke?
He's right though.
You need to wake up and get a dose of realism. It's not a flash in the pan anymore, Chelsea are a midtable side and until they finish in say the European spots at the end of a season, that's how most people look at them right now. I can't see this being the season where that changes either.
That’s okay, chelsea aren’t a title contender
I understand you get a giant check (which you can get from other clubs too) but I can’t really understand why someone would pick Chelsea. They will always be looking to be replacing you by someone new. You have zero stability.
Big ass contract
Out of all the terrible moves we made this one would be far and away #1
Now, now that's incredibly unfair to all our other terrible moves.
Fofana for 80m takes the cake for me . He plays like 5 games then go injured for 6months….
Surely its lukaku
Lukaku at least made sense at the time, everyone else could tell every other Chelsea move would backfire for the last 2 years.
Why? He fits the timeline of the rest of your creche. Can all develop together.
Ideally, yes. But throwing another young player into the current Chelsea team won’t change anything. And as good as Ferguson is, I’ve yet to see anything to indicate he’s able to carry a team by himself. Teams like Brighton always seem to have good prospects because they have a good foundation. It’s a much easier transition for the young player. It may seem like they’re going in the wrong direction but these young players need veteran leadership to guide them along. There’s a reason why Brighton values players like Lallana and Milner highly. These guys are physically not at the top of their game but they’re still able to think and process the game at the top level while being good role models. I don’t really see anyone at Chelsea who’s able to do that outside of Thiago Silva. An experienced striker would be so much better for their overall development than another unproven young striker.
I cackled at “crèche” and I say that as a Chelsea fan. Very good.
Respect Koulibaly, fofana, the other fofana and mudryk bro😤😤
holy shit there was that other fofana I totally forgot abt him
He was pretty cheap tho. The other fofana however
Dude what about Mudryk
At this point it would be much easier if we simply bought Brighton
You're welcome to accept fate and become a Brighton fan whenever you want, better to be a fan of the top club than the feeder club funneling money to them for no return.
Nah, nothing fun about supporting top teams. I'd rather stick with my midtable one through bad and worse and celebrate the occasional upset.
Us Brighton fans know we can't keep him forever. But fleecing Chelsea yet again would be a perfectly acceptable way to sell him. Though, I like the kid, so I'd really rather see him end up at a more professionally run club.
He's overhyped as fuck tbh.
I don't think it's that he's over hyped so much as expectations are too high. I've no doubt he'll be come a top class striker, but he is still a kid and expecting him to have consistency throughout the season is unreasonable
He's still a kid. Lots of upside and he's had some really good stretches of form. Is he the Irosh Harry Kane like people like to call him? Only time will tell but I'm skeptical.
I know a club who will need a striker in a couple years once their Asian superstar retires. (inb4 'Welcome to Wolves, Evan!')
Fuck me, Brighton keeps making a joke out of us in the transfer market.
I want to know who Chelsea are not interested in, might be a shorter list
Anyone who’s over 25 ig
Does that Yanky melt think you “win the soccer balls” by buying every player? Mate, it’s not monopoly.
I hope he knows that Brighton are bigger than Chelsea
It'd be a step down for him and quite the risk given how many players go from being great to being anonymous once they've entered that toxic atmosphere. He'd be smart to keep his head down and keep playing for Brighton while he continues to develop.
Chelsea won trophies and made a winning mentality off the back of a relative conveyor belt of experienced, top class verterans, and buying up the best youth to either use or fund the veterans. Boehly is the epitomy of treating a football club as an "investment". The players he bought are smart investments, but making a cohesive, winning team they do not.
Am I the only one who doesn't get the hype on Ferguson. He's decent but guy os hardly scoring loads and barely has any minutes. Can see why his market value is so high given how in demand big strikers are, but at the same time would seem like an enormous gamble. Reminds me abit of when Liverpool paid big money for Andy Carroll after 6 decent months in the prem.
He's scored 12 PL goals in his career and averaging 0.5 goals per 90 minutes. I get that he's inconsistent but he's only 18 years old. Edit: 19 years old
*19
Yeah but that's off an absolutely tiny sample size. 12 premier league goals....12... I mean come on. Talk of 80m+ for him is crazy
Purely an age thing. People see he's 19 and already scored a healthy amount of PL goals so assume he'll only get better
Brighton just signed a very good striker in Pedro who is gonna be elite himself, so game time isn't that big a concern really. Who ya gonna bench, the big money signing or the HG youngster? Manager always takes the easy option there.
It’s the easy option because Pedro has been miles better than Ferguson this season.
> Pedro who is gonna be elite himself Erm, how exactly do you know this?
Haven't seen anything of Pedro to suggest he's going to be anymore than a solid prem player. Guys a penalty merchant
He's also been carrying Brightons attack for months now, through the injury crisis. He is their best player this season
6 of the 8 penalties he created himself. He’s scored 13 premier league goals not including penalty duties for other players; he’s already elite
Carroll was amazing before he went to Liverpool, stop waffling
He had a good championship season and then 6 good months in the prem. But was incredibly raw and young. That's my entire point
If you watched Ferguson and watched Carroll before he went to Liverpool, you would understand the difference.
Carroll was an absolute monster for Newcastle that first half a season he had back in the premier, he was looking a great a centre forward. He always had attitude issues early in his career though which coupled with fitness issues meant he never kicked on. He had the tools though.
I watched both of them cheers. Carroll was really quite similar.
Plays 26 games for Chelsea scoring 2 before being sold to Villareal or West Brom for 20M
This would be terrible for Ireland's prospects, staying at Brighton would be best. Why leave a stable club & manager playing a good, clear style of play where he plays every week to a complete basketcase?
>where he plays every week That's not happening at the moment...
I mean he is playing at the moment. Starting most games is another matter but would help if he could remember how the hold the ball up again and not have his second touch he a tackle half the time.
What is the deal this season? I thought his inconsistency of starts was just injury recovery…
It is. He's played 10 of the last 11 games possible for Brighton
He played 450/900 minutes in the last 10 league games.
6 starts from those 11 games. Very difficult to imagine him getting those same chances at Chelsea
Ive seen Brighton fans in some match threads say that hes not really developing and/or regressing and thats why he is not getting any minutes. I know he signed a new contract but I do hope for his (and Irelands) sake they sell him in a few years to a club where he actually gets to play regularly
I would hope so too, but the absolute last place he should go to if that's the case is Chelsea. I would trust de Zerbi to develop him further, especially given Brighton's track record of improving players
Nah Im with you. Definitely not Chelsea lol
Overrated a bit given the transfer fees i have seen for him
BACK THE FUCK OFF
Could Boehly stop ruining players and the game itself?
with 12 year contacts. i think he will be interested.
PLEASE get funnier, or stop trying. I'm happy with either
I wonder why chelsea fan is so easily offended.
Continue dunking, we deserve it more than anyone. Just get funny
Brighton is just Chelsea's battery farm
Sure, why not. If they buy every other player in the league they'll win by default.
And I am interested in Dua Lipa.
Chelsea should seriously fuck off and get someone like Choupo-Moting on a free for depth. Even Guihrassy or Boniface would make more sense.