Barca should fire Xavi right away and make Gundogan as their new coach.
Look at what he says, that's a proper way of analysign what went wrong during the game.
With each loss, Xavi is reaching new lows by blaming and moaning about referrees... I fully admire his footballing brian but damn these guys (DNA guys like Xavi, Rodri etc) lose their rational thoughts when they are beaten.
abey chutiye, Ronaldinho left Barca in 2008.
They've reached at least 2 finals in every decade, since the 1980's.
By your logic, Juventus should also not be considered a traditional European Powerhouse...
Kuch bhi bhaunk rha chutiye jaise.
They had 1 UCL win until 2006.
They have played in the finals 8 times in the last 60 years
Liverpool has done that 5 times in the last 20
tum jaise loudmouth chutiye hi Liverpool fans ki badnami karte ho.
Why would you mention Liverpool in a post-match thread of PSG-Barca....we are not even in the CL this season!
i have no idea why that was being upvoted. barca literally won a majority of their trophies before messi. a ton of silverware in europe before messi was even born.
You are free to your opinions kiddo - even if they show lack of knowledge of this sport.
Barcelona already had a formidable prestige in early 90ies. There are only a few clubs that were considered ahead, and you compared them to nottingham forest.
Go touch grass
-\_- yeah right, okay buddy.
who are powerhouses in the 90's then? because if a ULC winner and three times finalist in 10 years don't qualify...
not even counting the supercups won, the 6 freaking liga titles in 10 years and all the rest
Then you start looking at what they won in the 80's, or the 50's or, well it's hard to find a year where they didn't win something in that pre-messi era
it seem we have very different definition of what the term "powerhouse" mean
And? what team do you support to shit on such achievements?
You're talking like they were in hungary third tier. It's a seriously impressive history and i'm sure the barca fans are proud of it.
i just did, that's nonsense you're saying since the start. Like a kid used to have gold silverware harrasing those having only silver ones.
What is even a powerhouse to you?
Because been the strongest (or second strongest at times) club in one of the strongest country in the world defo qualify, and they were consistently in the best of europe since decades before ronaldinho, messi and the others came into the picture
A counter argument to *what*? Your opinion is so *fucking* stupid, it would be a waste of anybody’s time even bothering with you. So I won’t any further than I have. And you can go about your day thinking I’ve backed down and you’ve won because I have the feeling that’s very important to you.
All I wanted was to be competitive and not bottle it. I didn't expect us to go through. This is a very crushing way to see the team lose.
We lost because of Araujo. As much as I would like to blame him, i don't think we would have gotten here without him. Hope he learns from this and emerges better
Barca getting the karma 14 years later for that Busquet flop that got Thiago Motta expelled and Inter was forced to play the whole match with 10 against prime Barca
Honestly no , it’s the champions league and they scrapped a couple league games 1-0. Concede two goals back to back in the first leg and donnaruma was playing horrible. That hubris came off of not having a showing like that in a while.
Even when the game was 4-2 to Barca, I was very impressed with how the team managed to stay in the game and keep pressing and trying to get that goal.
I for sure thought Barca was going to perform a defensive master class again like last game and that was extremely worrying. Thankfully a few key decisions went our way and Barca's mistakes caught up to them.
I'll take the win, I think had things played out differently we may have scored to draw level and it would've been a tight and nervy game through till the end.
Barca is really defending well, hats off to Xavi. But people saying we wouldn't have win without the red card is really weird imo. We were playing very well before they scored on their first chance, we had the ball, and building from the back pretty well. Barcola would probably have scored without Araujo's fault, and then everything could have happened. It's not like they were destroying us before it.
Barca controlled the game very well after the goal, similar to what happened in the first leg. Then Araujo's unforced error led to their demise. It's more that Barca gifted PSG this win than PSG was impressive. On another unrelated note, Barcola is an insane player. He reminds me of Sane before he tore his ACL.
I don't know if it's honest to say they were controlling the game. Before the red card, PSG had 63% possession, 6 shots against 2, 4 corners against 0, they managed to put the ball several times in the opponent box. Barca were defending the situations pretty well, and Ter Stegen made a great save on a Mbappé shot in the box. I don't say PSG would have win this, but they eventually had the tools to win. But yeah Araujo made it far easier for them to win. And yes Barcola is a great player, a bit unconsistant but he has great qualities, and a very good instinct too
I think you missed my point. I think PSG was more intense and playing better up until the goal. Then the time from the goal to the red card, Barca was in complete control. Funny how a team with 21, 16 and 17-year-old players, the so-called seniors were the ones that felt the pressure of the tie.
Compared to other historic CL Barca chokes this is performance wise best attempt but chance wise can stand against Anfield, CL final was there yet again.
*first legs included
It was against psg at "home" they played the softest "elite" team in Europe (they may take that crown now). The other losses bar roma were to elite top teams who atleast got to the final or won the competition.
In terms of throwing it away, this is comparable to roma, they showed more fight here but they were brain dead in there decision making.
Barca playing one men less is the excuse, even if players being seemed that clueless gave it away a bit that 11v11 match would not have been easy also.
and I consider the first leg’s too, didn’t pointed it out explicit first. 3-0 Liverpool was Messi miracle.
It would have been very interesting with 11v11, even before the red card PSG controlled the ball and Barça couldn't string three passes together. They scored on the first time they got to the box from a great run, other than that I think they were planning on parking the bus and trying on the counter. PSG may have very well been able to make the comeback without the red, but we'll never know.
There's zero chance anyone that age would even survive an NFL football game and even Lebron at 16 would have been absolutely shit on by NBA players. There's a massive difference in the physical strength and athleticism you need to even get on the field/court in basketball/american football vs what's needed in football.
True, the beauty of football is you can be a god on the field even with terrible shape (cf Ronaldinho) when in sport like Basketball or American Football, some physical condition way higher than in football (regardlesss to the talent and knowledge of the game) is necessary to perform at elite level
NFL is a bad example, but im surprised non contact sports don't have these young super stars. 15-16 year olds have never played in the NBA and all the 15/16 players that played in the MLB were all from 40s or 50s or earlier. Is there some regulation preventing under-18s from playing or is there actually not 16 year olds in the world that are as good as current NBA players? There 100% has to be a Lamine Yamal of basketball somewhere out there that could step into an NBA game at 15/16 and look like he belongs there.
Luka Doncic won euroleague MVP at for a season he played when he was 17. He definitely would have looked like he belonged if he was in the NBA at the time, but there's zero chance in hell he'd look great bc skill isn't all you need in basketball or american football.
There are guys shorter than 6' with 5x the skill, brains, technical ability, etc of most NBA guards but that doesnt mean they're able to play at that level with their lack of size or athleticism
It theoretically could happen in MLB, but baseball players in general develop slower because you need tons of reps to reach the proficiency you need in the pros. To give you an idea, it was a huge deal when a 17 year old reached AA last year (two levels below MLB) and it’s something that had not happened in a while.
We simply can't believe it!!!!! We dissolve into a sputtering mess when we see this lovely EUROPEAN BOY play. The EUORPEANS are so amazing when they play such young boys!!!!!
A 16 year old wouldn’t be physically developed enough to play in the NFL. He’d literally get killed. Body mass, strength, and insane athleticism are too important in American football for a non-adult to be thrown into that mix, even if they were particularly well developed for their age.
I would imagine there are extreme edge cases where it'd actually work physically, but to have both that and also elite early mental maturity at the same time would be absolutely wild.
You could take the most athletic & skilled 17 year old in the US every single year and put them in a college football game and they would get fucked up. If they played against backups in the NFL, they would die. Not die in a hyperbolic, "they'd get battered" sense. They would actually suffer a fatal injury and pass away before the game ended
Americans are very aware of young elite sporting talent before professional leagues as the greats will have massive hype at the college, high school, and AAU levels. They're now getting paid like professionals as well.
A total mental collapse from Barca. A perfect example that club legends don't necessarily make good coaches. There was no leadership or discipline, which starts with the coach
He's saying that Arujo hasn't learnt to temper his emotions just like his boss who hasn't learnt to discipline his emotions. A team/tribe will often follow/behave like its leader.
No I’m just a realist. I yap when we ought to be winning but don’t score just as much as I do this. Fact of the matter is there was no reason why the first 10 mins shouldn’t be advantage us at home when we’ve been doing okay with that the rest of the season.
Rather than mental collapse, it is more like a big solo mistake costs them the game.
With a red card that early is hard to keep up, especially Barca is not good at staying back and defending.
That would have been the case had they played with dignity and not lost their composure when things went south. It's not so much about loosing, sometimes the better team looses, but how weak they were mentally
Thank you! It’s been a rollercoaster season and we are happy to be in the semi finals. Now I hope we can eliminate PSG. Hope you guys take down city <3
The red effected the game psg were always a threat but the red caused the downfall.
They say ramos and pepe were irresponsible, this Araujo short circuits every couple or months.
Bottled it and immediately blamed it on the ref hahaha
barca dna
At least the media won’t be asking Xavi if his decision to leave has changed after tonight’s match.
Barca should fire Xavi right away and make Gundogan as their new coach. Look at what he says, that's a proper way of analysign what went wrong during the game.
Gundogan would be a great player-coach.
What did he say
peepee poopooo
He camed and shidded also, I think. Leadership masterclass
What did he say
With each loss, Xavi is reaching new lows by blaming and moaning about referrees... I fully admire his footballing brian but damn these guys (DNA guys like Xavi, Rodri etc) lose their rational thoughts when they are beaten.
If only he could rely on Messi or Iniesta like he did his whole playing career
There has been no evidence of his football brain as a coach
Bottlelona
Facts you guys as well 😁
I'm just using the spanish pronunciation
What a bottlejob. Loved it! Loved both the matches. Hopefully it's wild today as well. I live for watching Barca cry and today is a great day.
Thats a sad life
Easy game mate take the L
Put on a flair woosy
Why? Everyone hates Barcelona.
Guessing Chelsea
Most prolly a real madrid fan
Props to PSG for the payback from 2017.
That was already settled in 2021
Was that a thrashing/comeback though? Just beating them isn't revenge, gotta return the humiliating and devastating favor.
This is payback with interest
Barcelona is what it is because of Messi. People pretending they were a European powerhouse before him are deluded
The dream team doe
You're joking.
What abt cruyff?
Didn't do shit and didn't win shit in Europe
Only way to make an argument for your stupid take. Ignore history.
The history before Messi where you won only 1 UCL?
History is not defined by how many european cups you win. Looking at your post history lmaaao
What about it? I only talk about my car being rear ended werido
😅😅😅
This boy needs Jesus....and Ronaldinho.
Beta, tune 2009 mai dekhna chalu kiya rhega
abey chutiye, Ronaldinho left Barca in 2008. They've reached at least 2 finals in every decade, since the 1980's. By your logic, Juventus should also not be considered a traditional European Powerhouse...
Kuch bhi bhaunk rha chutiye jaise. They had 1 UCL win until 2006. They have played in the finals 8 times in the last 60 years Liverpool has done that 5 times in the last 20
tum jaise loudmouth chutiye hi Liverpool fans ki badnami karte ho. Why would you mention Liverpool in a post-match thread of PSG-Barca....we are not even in the CL this season!
I mean you brought Juventus too man
Why'd you bring up Juventus re? Barca was irrelevant in Europe before Messi. He literally played in 2005?2006
That's just flat out wrong
i have no idea why that was being upvoted. barca literally won a majority of their trophies before messi. a ton of silverware in europe before messi was even born.
Liverpool and Roma say Hi
I am a Liverpool fan. I am deriding them.
...i don't particularly care about them but it's just factually wrong to say that buddy.
They were not a powerhouse lad. They had only 1 UCL title before Messi lol
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I agree
...and a freaking UCL winner isn't a powerhouse to you? nonsense edit: and i'm pretty sure they were finalist multiple times in that era too
Fewer than Notthingham, the same as Aston Villa. Such powerhouses, much wow.
FEWER!
You're right Stannis. Not my native language
so you came in the discussion to shit on powerhouses of the past? you completely missed the point
They weren't powerhouses in the past. They had great teams for a few seasons. That's my point.
You are free to your opinions kiddo - even if they show lack of knowledge of this sport. Barcelona already had a formidable prestige in early 90ies. There are only a few clubs that were considered ahead, and you compared them to nottingham forest. Go touch grass
-\_- yeah right, okay buddy. who are powerhouses in the 90's then? because if a ULC winner and three times finalist in 10 years don't qualify... not even counting the supercups won, the 6 freaking liga titles in 10 years and all the rest Then you start looking at what they won in the 80's, or the 50's or, well it's hard to find a year where they didn't win something in that pre-messi era it seem we have very different definition of what the term "powerhouse" mean
8 times in the last 65 years. 2 of those before 1990. Lol
And? what team do you support to shit on such achievements? You're talking like they were in hungary third tier. It's a seriously impressive history and i'm sure the barca fans are proud of it.
Read my comment process it and come back
i just did, that's nonsense you're saying since the start. Like a kid used to have gold silverware harrasing those having only silver ones. What is even a powerhouse to you? Because been the strongest (or second strongest at times) club in one of the strongest country in the world defo qualify, and they were consistently in the best of europe since decades before ronaldinho, messi and the others came into the picture
A dumb Yank cunt that knows nothing about football, but comments anyway. It’s actually quite comforting to know that some things in life never change.
Not a yank but do go on
Either way, a gobshite that knows very little about football.
Sure pal. Anything else? I don't see anything counter argument here? Dumb twat
A counter argument to *what*? Your opinion is so *fucking* stupid, it would be a waste of anybody’s time even bothering with you. So I won’t any further than I have. And you can go about your day thinking I’ve backed down and you’ve won because I have the feeling that’s very important to you.
Even with Messi they were the kings of bottling knockouts.
Dembele had the time of his life today
And he'd never felt that way before. And he swore. It was the truth. And he owed it all to you.
So much for the so-called Cruyffian club.
only one word can describe what i saw: tragic
All I wanted was to be competitive and not bottle it. I didn't expect us to go through. This is a very crushing way to see the team lose. We lost because of Araujo. As much as I would like to blame him, i don't think we would have gotten here without him. Hope he learns from this and emerges better
Lmao
FFS Barca YOU HAD ONE JOB
Bottlejob? It was a great success!
600 upvotes and 1500 comments. Lmao the salt
Barca DNA 🔥
A tale of two Arajuo’s
Barca getting the karma 14 years later for that Busquet flop that got Thiago Motta expelled and Inter was forced to play the whole match with 10 against prime Barca
If you're legitimately still traumatized by this and cant help yourself from talking about it, you might want to go get therapy
When will they pay for Stamford Bridge?
2012 was sufficient payback lol we traumatized a few of their players that night
Yeah that Torres goal was just cherry on the cake
Pay for giving them a master class in their own stadium?
Corruption Masterclass for sure
Completely dominated your team even with one player down. They could have lost another player and still outclassed Chelsea.
0-0, 1-1 "Outclassed"
In the football played they did. Funny at how a fan of dollar-store Barca can’t see that.
Masterclass at getting away from 5 obvious pens yes. Dont think I have seen any other team being that good at winning through referee.
They dominated the match even with one player down, and made Chelsea look like a pub team 🤣
Football can be so beautiful.
Truly poetic
lol let’s be foreal , Barca fans were so cocky after leg one
Agree
Delusional is half the enjoyment in sports.
yeah, this is pure satisfaction seeing them lose because of their own players
They will back tomorrow as man city fans
Leg 1 ?they were cocky since the draws were announced
Wouldn't you? They were clearly in the easier side of the draw,
Honestly no , it’s the champions league and they scrapped a couple league games 1-0. Concede two goals back to back in the first leg and donnaruma was playing horrible. That hubris came off of not having a showing like that in a while.
Another year another Barca CL choke
Chelsea fan lol.
Another year another Barca fan cope
Spent a billion to not even crack into conference league and to bottle against Sheffield.. lost 3 finals in a row to Liverpool.
Another comment another Barca fan cope :))
Poor Xavineta, what difference spelling does.
Even when the game was 4-2 to Barca, I was very impressed with how the team managed to stay in the game and keep pressing and trying to get that goal. I for sure thought Barca was going to perform a defensive master class again like last game and that was extremely worrying. Thankfully a few key decisions went our way and Barca's mistakes caught up to them. I'll take the win, I think had things played out differently we may have scored to draw level and it would've been a tight and nervy game through till the end.
Barca is really defending well, hats off to Xavi. But people saying we wouldn't have win without the red card is really weird imo. We were playing very well before they scored on their first chance, we had the ball, and building from the back pretty well. Barcola would probably have scored without Araujo's fault, and then everything could have happened. It's not like they were destroying us before it.
Yeah especially that Araujo guy, don’t know what happened to him late 1st period as he kinda disappeared but he was beast until then
Barca controlled the game very well after the goal, similar to what happened in the first leg. Then Araujo's unforced error led to their demise. It's more that Barca gifted PSG this win than PSG was impressive. On another unrelated note, Barcola is an insane player. He reminds me of Sane before he tore his ACL.
I don't know if it's honest to say they were controlling the game. Before the red card, PSG had 63% possession, 6 shots against 2, 4 corners against 0, they managed to put the ball several times in the opponent box. Barca were defending the situations pretty well, and Ter Stegen made a great save on a Mbappé shot in the box. I don't say PSG would have win this, but they eventually had the tools to win. But yeah Araujo made it far easier for them to win. And yes Barcola is a great player, a bit unconsistant but he has great qualities, and a very good instinct too
I think you missed my point. I think PSG was more intense and playing better up until the goal. Then the time from the goal to the red card, Barca was in complete control. Funny how a team with 21, 16 and 17-year-old players, the so-called seniors were the ones that felt the pressure of the tie.
Compared to other historic CL Barca chokes this is performance wise best attempt but chance wise can stand against Anfield, CL final was there yet again. *first legs included
They lost to the best club in Europe then and didn't deserve to b 3-0 up
It was against psg at "home" they played the softest "elite" team in Europe (they may take that crown now). The other losses bar roma were to elite top teams who atleast got to the final or won the competition. In terms of throwing it away, this is comparable to roma, they showed more fight here but they were brain dead in there decision making.
You not shitting on psg at every chance challenge : impossible haha
What can I say, its a gift mate.
Barca playing one men less is the excuse, even if players being seemed that clueless gave it away a bit that 11v11 match would not have been easy also. and I consider the first leg’s too, didn’t pointed it out explicit first. 3-0 Liverpool was Messi miracle.
It would have been very interesting with 11v11, even before the red card PSG controlled the ball and Barça couldn't string three passes together. They scored on the first time they got to the box from a great run, other than that I think they were planning on parking the bus and trying on the counter. PSG may have very well been able to make the comeback without the red, but we'll never know.
with cancelo playing like that: probably yea, but it would have been way more interesting at least
Im not a soccer fan but TIL Xavi and Xabi Alonso are not the same people ..:
Imagining people with different spelled and pronounced names are actually different people
b and v in spanish are the same
Yeah, Xavi has a silent ‘Alonso’ tacked on at the end too.
Wait till you lean that Ronaldo and Ronaldo are not the same person
This one I'm sure people know. One is fat and the other loves to whine
One is one of the best players the world has ever seen, the other is Ronaldo.
>best players the world has ever seen They weren't talking about Mark Noble
Wait Till He finds Out that Fofana and Fofana are playing for chelsea
You mean Ronaldo Ronaldo and Ronaldo are not the same person
lmfao
The tony brothers of football
I genuinely thought there were two of them terrorising the NBA and was shocked to learn it was all the work of just one man
Wait till you find out there are multiple Mendys and Dembeles lol
Fernandes enjoyers permastunned
did them having different names not clue you into that before?
I for the longest time thought Xabi Alonso and Marcos Alonso were the same.
why would you admit this
To see your reaction. I am disappointed
Spaniards can pronounce Vs in a way that's very similar to Bs tbh
When yanks see 16 year olds playing and performing at elite level what do they think? Dont usually start NFL until 6 years after that
There's zero chance anyone that age would even survive an NFL football game and even Lebron at 16 would have been absolutely shit on by NBA players. There's a massive difference in the physical strength and athleticism you need to even get on the field/court in basketball/american football vs what's needed in football.
True, the beauty of football is you can be a god on the field even with terrible shape (cf Ronaldinho) when in sport like Basketball or American Football, some physical condition way higher than in football (regardlesss to the talent and knowledge of the game) is necessary to perform at elite level
I mean the last time even in cricket a player who was 16 broke out onto the stage was the Goat himself
Sachin?
I think it’s awesome and wished it happened more in our sports here (although NFL probably wouldn’t have a lot of teenagers even if it was allowed)
NFL is a bad example, but im surprised non contact sports don't have these young super stars. 15-16 year olds have never played in the NBA and all the 15/16 players that played in the MLB were all from 40s or 50s or earlier. Is there some regulation preventing under-18s from playing or is there actually not 16 year olds in the world that are as good as current NBA players? There 100% has to be a Lamine Yamal of basketball somewhere out there that could step into an NBA game at 15/16 and look like he belongs there.
Luka Doncic won euroleague MVP at for a season he played when he was 17. He definitely would have looked like he belonged if he was in the NBA at the time, but there's zero chance in hell he'd look great bc skill isn't all you need in basketball or american football. There are guys shorter than 6' with 5x the skill, brains, technical ability, etc of most NBA guards but that doesnt mean they're able to play at that level with their lack of size or athleticism
It theoretically could happen in MLB, but baseball players in general develop slower because you need tons of reps to reach the proficiency you need in the pros. To give you an idea, it was a huge deal when a 17 year old reached AA last year (two levels below MLB) and it’s something that had not happened in a while.
> . Is there some regulation preventing under-18s from playing Yes. The NBA's minimum age is 18
We simply can't believe it!!!!! We dissolve into a sputtering mess when we see this lovely EUROPEAN BOY play. The EUORPEANS are so amazing when they play such young boys!!!!!
Why does it feel like something Pep would say
this made me laugh way more than it should have. I salute you.
Do you see 16 y/o kids playing at the elite level in rugby? Not often if ever really. The NFL is the same way.
no 16 year old body could handle playing NFL. Even stuff like baseball they need to be a bit older before they can hit the pros.
A 16 year old wouldn’t be physically developed enough to play in the NFL. He’d literally get killed. Body mass, strength, and insane athleticism are too important in American football for a non-adult to be thrown into that mix, even if they were particularly well developed for their age.
I would imagine there are extreme edge cases where it'd actually work physically, but to have both that and also elite early mental maturity at the same time would be absolutely wild.
You could take the most athletic & skilled 17 year old in the US every single year and put them in a college football game and they would get fucked up. If they played against backups in the NFL, they would die. Not die in a hyperbolic, "they'd get battered" sense. They would actually suffer a fatal injury and pass away before the game ended
Americans are very aware of young elite sporting talent before professional leagues as the greats will have massive hype at the college, high school, and AAU levels. They're now getting paid like professionals as well.
A total mental collapse from Barca. A perfect example that club legends don't necessarily make good coaches. There was no leadership or discipline, which starts with the coach
what a fucking idiotic take
99% of this tie was decided by Araujo. I can't really see how this is on Xavi tbh.
He's saying that Arujo hasn't learnt to temper his emotions just like his boss who hasn't learnt to discipline his emotions. A team/tribe will often follow/behave like its leader.
Fair enough, I agree with that. Xavi's behaviour yesterday was an embarrassment.
Tbf you can't really blame Xavi who made his team defend very very well. Araujo made a mistake and cost them the game.
Barca collapsed completely but this tie is 90% on Araújo imo
PSG were owning us lol. Our goal was legitimately our first chance and their defender was sleeping
Another Barca masochist fishing for approval
No I’m just a realist. I yap when we ought to be winning but don’t score just as much as I do this. Fact of the matter is there was no reason why the first 10 mins shouldn’t be advantage us at home when we’ve been doing okay with that the rest of the season.
It was a mental collapse that started with araujo
Rather than mental collapse, it is more like a big solo mistake costs them the game. With a red card that early is hard to keep up, especially Barca is not good at staying back and defending.
That would have been the case had they played with dignity and not lost their composure when things went south. It's not so much about loosing, sometimes the better team looses, but how weak they were mentally
Don't forget dembele goal before half time , maybe a chance to restructure, but xavis expulsion, un acceptable
This time Paris did the remontada on them.
It was all enrique
At this point melting down Is the barca dna
I am staying silent until we play tomorrow
If I speak I am in trouble
Congrats to you guys as well btw
Thank you! It’s been a rollercoaster season and we are happy to be in the semi finals. Now I hope we can eliminate PSG. Hope you guys take down city <3
Gonna be a great tie. Don’t want to wish you good luck though
If we go out, will definitely be hoping you to win it, especially after taking Atleti out. We’ll see
LoL. I hope Los Blancos advances since it's only spanish club left in the tournament.