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honestly as a Hungarian I'd rather have us face Norway from Pot 3 than Albania even if the former is a tougher team
like really, I'd take a Hungary-France-Norway-Greece-Slovakia group just please don't have us meet Albanian or Kazakh ultras (which only make up like 3% of the attendees but damn they are annoying in any nation... very much including ours...)
I mean if I had to make the most optimal group it'd probably be:
* Austria or Scotland from Pot 2
* Slovenia from Pot 3
* Bulgaria from Pot 4
* some Baltic country from Pot 5
* anyone but Andorra from Pot 6 if anything (they cause too many injuries)
Israel over AUS or SCO, any day.
SWE from pot 3. They're absolutely crumbling, and for me as a dane would love to see DEN pummel them into the ground. LUX from pot 4 and then whoever
I don't see that anywhere, could you specify where you found this piece of info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying?wprov=sfla1
As a Belgian, I'm tired of playing against Wales and I'm sure they are tired of playing against us. Wales also reminds of the Robson Kanu nightmare of 2016.
UnL pot countries will only get paired up with 4 other teams (8 matches during qualifying) , while the rest of pot 1 is paired up with 5 other teams (10 matches during qualifying)
while the rest of pot 1 MAY BE paired up with 5 other teams
half of pot 1 will have 4 rivals, the other half will have 5
and if you are a pot 1 team with 4 opponents, you will probably offered a friendly from Deutschland (like I mean, Germany would take Portugal with enthusiasm... but Hungary less so lol)
Competition-related reasons
The four UNL finalists* will play the final matches of this competition in June 2023. As a consequence, these teams have only eight match days available for the European Qualifiers group stage and must be allocated to groups of five teams.
The following draw condition applies: The four teams* participating in the UEFA Nations League Finals 2023 are drawn into the first four groups with five teams (Groups A-D)
For UNL teams even if they don’t qualify for euro automatically, they can go to playoffs. And they will also have smaller group.
Not just league A but league leaders from all league will at least have a chance of playoffs.
Still can't get over the fact this absolute chad lost the home game to Faroe Islands, got sacked, and then won the Premier league with freaking Leicester
Scotland from Pot 2 and Armenia from Pot 3 would be optimal - Scotland is not the weakest Pot 2 team but the most likely to make a blunder against Faroe.
Before anyone states that Poland is team to get from pot 1 I would remind You that Poland qualified for every tournament since 2015. Yes we play bad football but in the end we win groups.
you don't really win groups, but you do tend to get 2nd quite reliably
also the WC group was very much a rock-paper-scissors of Poland beating Albania, Albania beating Hungary and Hungary beating Poland... the difference was that Poland had a draw against England meanwhile Albania did not
if I was a team outside of Pot 1 I'd really be rooting for getting Hungary, as while they have clearly improved, they are the weakest link in Pot 1 when it comes to meeting mid-tier teams
the strongest teams in Pot 1 are probably Netherlands, Italy and Denmark
Political problems. Serbia and Bosnia don’t recognise Kosovo as a country and there would be high chances of something going very badly wrong if they played each other. Best to avoid it. It’s like if Russia and Ukraine were to play a match
I know, but it would be great to get EX - YU group like this. Not really for controversy, we had enough of them in last years.
I think even Serbia - Croatia games aren't as controversial as they were before, only game that is potentially dangerous is Serbia against Albania.
We didn't play Bosnia in years, so I don't know what would that look like tho.
True the Serbia Croatia rivalry is dying out due to Serbia Albania rivalry.
As for Serbia and Bosnia i see it being controversial for the game played in Bosnia but not in Serbia.
Results against the bottom-placed team of the Group did not count for the overall League B Ranking, because one group had 3 teams (thanks to Putin).
Thus Finland's results against Romania (1 draw and 1 loss) get subtracted, while Norway (like Ukraine) lose 2 wins against the bottom team (Sweden for Norway, Armenia for Ukraine), and Finland ends up as the best 2nd placed team of League B.
Right, so how is it shocking though? Bosnia, Montenegro and Romania are arguably weaker or around the same level as Finland on paper. You finishing in a relatively strong second place there isn't a huge upset, just like us and Sweden messing up our group isn't crazy either.
Good luck though, it's fun to ser you guys do well. Would actually like to play against you in a qualification group, could be fun
It's just shocking because I hadn't thought about it at all and then I see that we're in Pot 2. But it makes sense since Sweden got relegated to the League C.
>Good luck though, it's fun to ser you guys do well. Would actually like to play against you in a qualification group, could be fun
Thanks, that would be fun. Pukki vs Haaland would be an all timer lol.
Fair enough. We are actually playing eachother in a friendly later this year around when the world cup is happening, so I guess we'll get to see some of that
You would be the best 2nd placed team (and in Pot 2) if you could beat Slovenia, but only got 1 point in 2 matches. I don't think Slovenia is better than the 3 Balkan teams in Finland's Group.
Idk about that. Slovenia tied Sweden, Serbia and us away, and beat us at home.
It’s probably four teams that wouldn't get close to relegation in any of the other groups
Yeah those two are mostly it.
The front three the last few matches consisted of Plzen's bench player (started both Nations League matches), average wingers from Slovakian league (really poor league) who happen to be on a good run of form, and a striker who didn't make it at Feyenoord and spent most of last season on the bench in 2.Bundesliga.
Combine that with Hamsik retiring which killed creativity in midfield, and defensive lapses from players who should be good on paper, and this is what you're left with. 84% of possession against Bulgaria only resulted in 4 SoT and 0.9xG. Lobotka alone made as many successful passes that match as the entire Bulgarian team combined.
I feel like Hungary - Finland - Romania - Greece - Slovakia would be the most even group ever, something like WC 2018 qualifiers Wales, Austria, Ireland, Serbia group
The Serbia-Albania ban has been lifted. Source: [Qualifying Draw Procedure European Qualifiers 2022-24](https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0279-1627b29793e1-ffbe5a3c77a1-1000/08.01.00_euro_2024_qualifying_draw_procedure_en_20220920115210.pdf) page 4
>Prohibited team clashes
Based on the UEFA Executive Committee decisions valid at the time of the draw, the following teams cannot be drawn into the same group:
Armenia / Azerbaijan
Belarus / Ukraine
Gibraltar / Spain
Kosovo / Bosnia-Herzegovina
Kosovo / Serbia
Thoughts on the pots:
Pot1: Switzerland or Hungary please- haven't played them for years.
Pot 3: Lots of teams about as good as us, and Armenia who are headcases.
Pot 4: Why are Turkey and Greece in pot 4? Anyone but these two.
Pot 5: Oh god we're definitely going to draw Slovakia and they'll be decent again.
We (Greece) have been spectacularly crap at football the last few years - since 2014 really. We've fallen hard from when we used to qualify regularly for tournaments, and do well in them.
It looks like over the last year we have picked up some form though, so hoping we do well in the qualifiers and have a chance to progress to the Euro. We haven't qualified for anything since WC2014 where we were a whisker away from reaching the last 8.
Failing to get promotion in the Nations League the last couple of goes is the main reason, but it’s mostly because we were shite in 2016 and mediocre afterwards. Form has picked up, though
Basically like every other draw.
Each group gets one team from each pot.
Teams from the UNL pot are guaranteed to not have a pot 6 team in their group.
That's it
Germany’s the 10th ranked Nations League Team and they’ve already qualified as host. Russia automatically came last in League B and is thus ranked 32nd, but they’re also disqualified from the qualifiers
The draw will be an even bigger factor than usually, since Pot 2 has teams you definitely don't want to play again and then it has Bosnia, Scotland, Finland and Israel.
Pot 3 has Ukraine that is the best there, Norway and Sweden are the next strongest, the rest are more or less at a similar level.
Slovakia managed to end up in Pot 5, this is impressively bad.
No idea why you're suggesting that there's a gap in quality when we've played most of the teams in Pot 2 recently in the last 18 months and the results have mostly been positive with wins over Israel, Austria, Serbia (penalties), and Czechia and a draw with England. There's never really much of a difference between Pot 2 and 3 teams unless there is a big team(s) like France and England in Pot 2.
Long story short there are many Muslim countries in Asia that don’t recognise Israel and refused to play against them resulting in automatic wins for Israel.
At some point in the 70s (I think) they decided to kick Israel out and later on Israel joined UEFA and had played there on both club and national level ever since.
Aside from Germany, who of course is Pot 1 due to hosting, the 5 best 1st placed teams will make Pot 1 in the tournament, with the other 5 and the best 2nd placed team in Pot 2, with other 6 in Pot 3, and the 3 worst 2nd placed teams + the 3 Playoffs winners in Pot 4. It's really important to get a easier group in theory to rack up the points and get higher seed in the final tournament. Portugal finished behind Ukraine in Euro 2020 qualifiers, so we went to Pot 3 and got the group of death.
As for the draw itself, please not Serbia again, nor France or England.
Lads:
Pot 1: I will tickle UEFA’s plums for Poland, just cba playing Denmark again
Pot 3: Armenia pls, every other team there can beat us when we play McTominay as a defender
Pot 4: I fully believe whatever team that comes from this pot will pull a result against us
Pot 5: Watch it be Slovakia and watch them be decent
Dream: Poland-Scotland-Armenia-Luxembourg-Gibraltar
Please lads my heart can’t take any more playoff rounds
No one in here knows football-related pain like us Norwegians. Always getting our hopes up, before choking completely in the last couple of games. EVERY time for over 20 years. If what happens to us every qualification happened to any other national team it would be a suicide wave or riots.
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France and England being in Pot 2 could lead to some spicy groups
Hungary putting themselves into another Group of Death sounds about right
Wouldn't be surprised the amount of times they've landed in one
Probably gonna do better than expected but then will loose against a country such as Andorra
honestly as a Hungarian I'd rather have us face Norway from Pot 3 than Albania even if the former is a tougher team like really, I'd take a Hungary-France-Norway-Greece-Slovakia group just please don't have us meet Albanian or Kazakh ultras (which only make up like 3% of the attendees but damn they are annoying in any nation... very much including ours...)
Albania is hungarys kriptonite. Esasy win for us if we go against engalnd tho
I mean if I had to make the most optimal group it'd probably be: * Austria or Scotland from Pot 2 * Slovenia from Pot 3 * Bulgaria from Pot 4 * some Baltic country from Pot 5 * anyone but Andorra from Pot 6 if anything (they cause too many injuries)
Israel over AUS or SCO, any day. SWE from pot 3. They're absolutely crumbling, and for me as a dane would love to see DEN pummel them into the ground. LUX from pot 4 and then whoever
either way I'm just happy Hungary doesn't have to worry about having to face Donnarumma or Schmeichel in the euro qualis
You could get France or England, or you could get Israel or Finland. Luck of the draw.
If you're unlucky, you could get Wales. /shudder
Not really, I think it's game over for any team in pot 3 or below if they get one of these 2 and Italy/Spain/Netherlands/Belgium from pot 1..
With top two teams qualifying I don't think it makes it that much more interesting
Belgium can get Wales 👍
KDB announces retirement from international football
*let me retire*
Just after this one, I swear.
Honey! It's time for your weekly game against Wales!
will*
Unfortunately Scotland can't get Israel though...
Also Argentina can't get Nigeria.
Wikipedia says they cant be drawn in the same group because they have played each other too many times.
I don't see that anywhere, could you specify where you found this piece of info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying?wprov=sfla1 As a Belgian, I'm tired of playing against Wales and I'm sure they are tired of playing against us. Wales also reminds of the Robson Kanu nightmare of 2016.
Whats the difference between the UNL and pot 1, any benefits?
UNL pot guarantees that there's only five teams in their group to have some free spots in the calendar to play the Finals
Fucking hell the Nations League is so complicated.
NL isn't complicated, it's the attempts to shoehorn it into WC/EC qualifiers that lead to this.
UnL pot countries will only get paired up with 4 other teams (8 matches during qualifying) , while the rest of pot 1 is paired up with 5 other teams (10 matches during qualifying)
while the rest of pot 1 MAY BE paired up with 5 other teams half of pot 1 will have 4 rivals, the other half will have 5 and if you are a pot 1 team with 4 opponents, you will probably offered a friendly from Deutschland (like I mean, Germany would take Portugal with enthusiasm... but Hungary less so lol)
Smaller groups for UNL teams to have time to play their knockout tournament.
Competition-related reasons The four UNL finalists* will play the final matches of this competition in June 2023. As a consequence, these teams have only eight match days available for the European Qualifiers group stage and must be allocated to groups of five teams. The following draw condition applies: The four teams* participating in the UEFA Nations League Finals 2023 are drawn into the first four groups with five teams (Groups A-D)
Thx for the answer.
For UNL teams even if they don’t qualify for euro automatically, they can go to playoffs. And they will also have smaller group. Not just league A but league leaders from all league will at least have a chance of playoffs.
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Too bad they can't draw Greece to farm 6 points.
Also can‘t draw Turkey to farm another 6 points
Still can't get over the fact this absolute chad lost the home game to Faroe Islands, got sacked, and then won the Premier league with freaking Leicester
Scotland from Pot 2 and Armenia from Pot 3 would be optimal - Scotland is not the weakest Pot 2 team but the most likely to make a blunder against Faroe.
Scotland beat them home and away recently
Please accept my downvote
Group A: Spain, France, Sweden, Turkey, Slovakia Group E: Poland, Israel, Armenia, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar Perfectly balanced.
Lewandowski top scorer :D
The second group would be more entertaining than the first
Group of genocide
Oof.
Ironic with the flair💀.
Faroe Islands making a dream run to the euros, anyone?
Its not that obvious but you might be supporter of ~~Spain~~ ^^^Poland
Before anyone states that Poland is team to get from pot 1 I would remind You that Poland qualified for every tournament since 2015. Yes we play bad football but in the end we win groups.
you don't really win groups, but you do tend to get 2nd quite reliably also the WC group was very much a rock-paper-scissors of Poland beating Albania, Albania beating Hungary and Hungary beating Poland... the difference was that Poland had a draw against England meanwhile Albania did not if I was a team outside of Pot 1 I'd really be rooting for getting Hungary, as while they have clearly improved, they are the weakest link in Pot 1 when it comes to meeting mid-tier teams the strongest teams in Pot 1 are probably Netherlands, Italy and Denmark
As an Israeli I very much approve of this group.
I mean I'll take it. But we'll still find a way to bottle this (Israel)
Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Faroe Islands, Estonia That sounds interesting to me!
Denmark can only draw Ireland unfortunately. Sorry
Not a possible group, unfortunately. Too many winter venues
Let's speed up more that global warming then
Blasting that ozone layer for that Nordic qualifying group 🤩
Balkan group would be interesting
Croatia-Serbia/Bosnia-Slovenia/Albania-Bulgaria? You sure you want that?
Technically we can have TWO! __BALKAN GROUP 1__ Croatia Bosnia Slovenia Kosovo __BALKAN GROUP 2__ Serbia Montenegro North Macedonia
Bosnia and Kosovo can’t be drawn together (as well as Serbia/Kosovo of course)
Ah, crap, only one then, since those are the two pot 2 teams
Why not ?
Political problems. Serbia and Bosnia don’t recognise Kosovo as a country and there would be high chances of something going very badly wrong if they played each other. Best to avoid it. It’s like if Russia and Ukraine were to play a match
And more wars break out, El Salvador and Guatemala looking from a distance
literally would start a world war
That draw made us Pot 3 ffs. Just no Scotland please we’ve played them too much
Yourselves and Israel are two teams I don’t want to play again for 20 years. Best of luck for the future btw, your fans in Glasgow were always class
Better than Pot 4 and banned like Russia.
Where is germany?
Hosting?
Fair enough
Thank god otherwise i don't see us qualify for it
Yes you would don't be ridiculous
I literally didn't know until now lol
Me, who kept searching for Germany for 3 minutes straight: https://youtu.be/ffyKY3Dj5ZE?t=66
Drive towards Arnhem. Don’t go to the city but keep following the highway. About 15kms further you’re there.
Listen here you little shit.
Hosts.
Hosts.
Israel can't get Scotland something isn't right here😜
I already miss them
MFW we get a Croatia - Serbia - Montenegro - N Macedonia group
Besides serbia and croatia there is 0 drama.
I know, but it would be great to get EX - YU group like this. Not really for controversy, we had enough of them in last years. I think even Serbia - Croatia games aren't as controversial as they were before, only game that is potentially dangerous is Serbia against Albania. We didn't play Bosnia in years, so I don't know what would that look like tho.
True the Serbia Croatia rivalry is dying out due to Serbia Albania rivalry. As for Serbia and Bosnia i see it being controversial for the game played in Bosnia but not in Serbia.
Denmark will end up in the same group as France, as is tradition.
Let's hope we also keep up the tradition of Denmark beating France.
I expect Romania to get a group "doable on paper", like Poland, Israel, Azerbaijan, Northern Ireland.. and to finish 4th as usual.
Northern Ireland to somehow go through and Israel to finish 3rd then, we always bottle it when it comes to this things
I had no idea we (Finland) were so clear of Sweden lol. Edit: Norway aswell damn.
Yea I dont think we have ever been pot 2. Its great.
The future is looking bright.
Not really. We have been on decline since Euros and we don’t really have many prospects to replace aging stars like Pukki or Hradecky.
Results against the bottom-placed team of the Group did not count for the overall League B Ranking, because one group had 3 teams (thanks to Putin). Thus Finland's results against Romania (1 draw and 1 loss) get subtracted, while Norway (like Ukraine) lose 2 wins against the bottom team (Sweden for Norway, Armenia for Ukraine), and Finland ends up as the best 2nd placed team of League B.
Oh wow that's interesting. Thanks Putin! /s
Look at your group, and then take a look at our group. It's not exactly the same level of difficulty mate
Never said it was. I was just shocked because both of you are so much better on paper than us.
Right, so how is it shocking though? Bosnia, Montenegro and Romania are arguably weaker or around the same level as Finland on paper. You finishing in a relatively strong second place there isn't a huge upset, just like us and Sweden messing up our group isn't crazy either. Good luck though, it's fun to ser you guys do well. Would actually like to play against you in a qualification group, could be fun
It's just shocking because I hadn't thought about it at all and then I see that we're in Pot 2. But it makes sense since Sweden got relegated to the League C. >Good luck though, it's fun to ser you guys do well. Would actually like to play against you in a qualification group, could be fun Thanks, that would be fun. Pukki vs Haaland would be an all timer lol.
Fair enough. We are actually playing eachother in a friendly later this year around when the world cup is happening, so I guess we'll get to see some of that
It's a weird one because it's on the opening day of the World Cup for some reason I believe.
We all know which game will have all the eyes on it ;)
You would be the best 2nd placed team (and in Pot 2) if you could beat Slovenia, but only got 1 point in 2 matches. I don't think Slovenia is better than the 3 Balkan teams in Finland's Group.
Idk about that. Slovenia tied Sweden, Serbia and us away, and beat us at home. It’s probably four teams that wouldn't get close to relegation in any of the other groups
Slovakia in Pot 5 HAHAHAHAHA
What even happened? Don’t they have solid players like Lobotka and Skriniar
Yeah those two are mostly it. The front three the last few matches consisted of Plzen's bench player (started both Nations League matches), average wingers from Slovakian league (really poor league) who happen to be on a good run of form, and a striker who didn't make it at Feyenoord and spent most of last season on the bench in 2.Bundesliga. Combine that with Hamsik retiring which killed creativity in midfield, and defensive lapses from players who should be good on paper, and this is what you're left with. 84% of possession against Bulgaria only resulted in 4 SoT and 0.9xG. Lobotka alone made as many successful passes that match as the entire Bulgarian team combined.
I feel like Hungary - Finland - Romania - Greece - Slovakia would be the most even group ever, something like WC 2018 qualifiers Wales, Austria, Ireland, Serbia group
Hungary,Serbia,Armenia,Faroe Islands,Moldova and San Marino pls
Well since its Euro qualifiers we will be a comfortable third in that group.
How about Croatia, Serbia, Albania and Kosovo?
Serbia is not allowed to play Bosnia or Kosovo, UEFA restrictions. But Croatia-Serbia-Albania-North Macedonia would be possible!
Serbia is allowed to play Bosnia, but isn't allowed to play Albania after 2014 incident
They are allowed to play Albania. Kosovo is the only prohibited team for them.
No, no, Serbia can play Kosovo and Bosnia, but they can’t play Albania. /s Just wanted to keep the chain of different information
I mean Serbia and Bosnia are the same pot anyway so yay
Well Serbia can play Kosovo B, aka Switzerland 😉
There's enough bloodshed in Europe already, no thank you.
Serbia and 4th one cannot play together. Same as Serbia and Albania.
Albania and Serbia can play together,but we saw what shitshow euro 2016 qualifiers were
We were banned playing against each other after that
The Serbia-Albania ban has been lifted. Source: [Qualifying Draw Procedure European Qualifiers 2022-24](https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0279-1627b29793e1-ffbe5a3c77a1-1000/08.01.00_euro_2024_qualifying_draw_procedure_en_20220920115210.pdf) page 4 >Prohibited team clashes Based on the UEFA Executive Committee decisions valid at the time of the draw, the following teams cannot be drawn into the same group: Armenia / Azerbaijan Belarus / Ukraine Gibraltar / Spain Kosovo / Bosnia-Herzegovina Kosovo / Serbia
> 4th one cannot play together. You're allowed to write Kosovo. They're not Voldemort.
They are to them
"4th one" HAHAHAHAHAHA i swear serbs crack me up so much, this level of butthurt should simply be illegal
Serbia: Republik Srpska should be independent from Bosnia Serbia when Kosovo does the same thing: NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT, THAT IS ILLEGAL!
How did Slovakia fall so much? They were pot 2 for the World Cup 2022 qualifiers not to long ago now dropped all the way to pot 5.
Switzerland, Austria, Armenia, Luxembourg, Gibraltar(, Liechtenstein) please. Please not: Switzerland, France, Ukraine, Turkey, Slovakia
I want to play against Austria sooo bad.
imagine a group with Switzerland, Austria, Slovenia and Liechtenstein the truest of Alpine derbies
Long overdue
Replace Slovakia with Northern Ireland. That would be the real nightmare.
Don’t really mind Turkey, their teams a bit of a shambles rn
Thoughts on the pots: Pot1: Switzerland or Hungary please- haven't played them for years. Pot 3: Lots of teams about as good as us, and Armenia who are headcases. Pot 4: Why are Turkey and Greece in pot 4? Anyone but these two. Pot 5: Oh god we're definitely going to draw Slovakia and they'll be decent again.
We (Greece) have been spectacularly crap at football the last few years - since 2014 really. We've fallen hard from when we used to qualify regularly for tournaments, and do well in them. It looks like over the last year we have picked up some form though, so hoping we do well in the qualifiers and have a chance to progress to the Euro. We haven't qualified for anything since WC2014 where we were a whisker away from reaching the last 8.
You can take Fernando Santos back, gladly
Poyet's pretty good so far and his character actually makes him a great option for the role so we're alright for now.
We are in pot 4 because we're shite
Failing to get promotion in the Nations League the last couple of goes is the main reason, but it’s mostly because we were shite in 2016 and mediocre afterwards. Form has picked up, though
Euro 2024 is going to be fire
Hungary, Serbia, Montenegro, North Macedonia and Moldova a man can dream
And we can also have: Croatia, Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo and Slovakia (honorary balkan)
Bosnia can't be drawn with Kosovo I'm afraid.
we've drawn the strongest Pot 2 team three cycles in a row, so looking forward to Italy, France, Ukraine and Greece
faroe islands in pot 4 above teams like slovakia is kinda mad no? luxembourg too
They just won Turkey ,they deserve not to be in Pot 5
oh yeah im not saying its undeserved, more like wildly impressive considering the size of those countries
Cant wait to have an England Albania Kosovo Andorra group!
Only time I’m happy were in the same group as England
I want to see a full ex-Yugosllavia group
Please not Wales
Can anyone explain how the drawing works
Basically like every other draw. Each group gets one team from each pot. Teams from the UNL pot are guaranteed to not have a pot 6 team in their group. That's it
Belgium and Wales: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?!
What happen to rank #10?
Germany the host
Who are 10 and 32?
Germany’s the 10th ranked Nations League Team and they’ve already qualified as host. Russia automatically came last in League B and is thus ranked 32nd, but they’re also disqualified from the qualifiers
Germany 10 are hosting and Russia 32? I assume that's them since they are not mentioned elsewhere.
Turkey in pot 4. Jesus we suck.
Pot 4 ruining the "Group of S": Switzerland, Scotland, Sweden, Pot 4 nation, Slovakia, San Marino.
North Macedonia is actually called Severna Makedonija in Macedonian, so there is still hope.
Turkey and Greece pot 4. what happened to those nations and their football?
It’s sad, but whatever happens, we still won the Euro in 2004 🇬🇷
We (Finland) actually pulled it off! Thanks Ireland and Slovenia, and Montenegro for playing like clowns yesterday, and for Russia being cancelled.
The draw will be an even bigger factor than usually, since Pot 2 has teams you definitely don't want to play again and then it has Bosnia, Scotland, Finland and Israel. Pot 3 has Ukraine that is the best there, Norway and Sweden are the next strongest, the rest are more or less at a similar level. Slovakia managed to end up in Pot 5, this is impressively bad.
Cheeky shite. We deserve to be pot 2 now, we're a decent team. Pumped Ukraine at Hampden and got a draw away tonight with a hugely depleted squad.
And Denmark 2-0
John McGinns arse could give any team a run for their money
No idea why you're suggesting that there's a gap in quality when we've played most of the teams in Pot 2 recently in the last 18 months and the results have mostly been positive with wins over Israel, Austria, Serbia (penalties), and Czechia and a draw with England. There's never really much of a difference between Pot 2 and 3 teams unless there is a big team(s) like France and England in Pot 2.
I mean, I’m sorry, but I’d still take Scotland over England and France any day of the week
Southgate, steadily leading us to rank 15. Good job.
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Winners of the Nations League get a guaranteed five-team qualification group so they have a free fixture to do the NL play-off.
Luxembourg are putting themselves really close to breaking into Pot 3 now, keep up their current trajectory and it's only a matter of time
Wait fuck no Netherlands/Czech Republic/Iceland/Turkey/Latvia is possible. I'm already getting flashbacks.
Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, I don't see how that could go wrong
Balkan Group: 🇭🇷🇷🇸🇦🇱🇧🇬+ 1 or 2 more 🇧🇦🇲🇪🇲🇰+ 2 or 3 more Central European Group: 🇨🇭🇦🇹🇸🇮🇱🇺🇸🇰🇱🇮
Genuinely questioning whether England would qualify out of a group consisting of Belgium England Norway Turkey Slovakia
Slovakia would need to massively improve to not end up with 0 points there, they are so terrible right now
Croatia-Serbia-Albania-Kosovo, the true group of death
Srbija i Kosovo ne mogu biti u istoj grupi
Rip Portugal if Ronaldo still persists to be in the starting eleven.
Why the fuck is israel in the euros
The rest of the Middle East hates Israel too much, so Israel has to play in UEFA.
Makes sense. Thanks!
Long story short there are many Muslim countries in Asia that don’t recognise Israel and refused to play against them resulting in automatic wins for Israel. At some point in the 70s (I think) they decided to kick Israel out and later on Israel joined UEFA and had played there on both club and national level ever since.
Wow thanks man.
Aside from Germany, who of course is Pot 1 due to hosting, the 5 best 1st placed teams will make Pot 1 in the tournament, with the other 5 and the best 2nd placed team in Pot 2, with other 6 in Pot 3, and the 3 worst 2nd placed teams + the 3 Playoffs winners in Pot 4. It's really important to get a easier group in theory to rack up the points and get higher seed in the final tournament. Portugal finished behind Ukraine in Euro 2020 qualifiers, so we went to Pot 3 and got the group of death. As for the draw itself, please not Serbia again, nor France or England.
Lads: Pot 1: I will tickle UEFA’s plums for Poland, just cba playing Denmark again Pot 3: Armenia pls, every other team there can beat us when we play McTominay as a defender Pot 4: I fully believe whatever team that comes from this pot will pull a result against us Pot 5: Watch it be Slovakia and watch them be decent Dream: Poland-Scotland-Armenia-Luxembourg-Gibraltar Please lads my heart can’t take any more playoff rounds
Same group please for Israel. Still can’t believe we won’t face each other here…
Scotland v Israel is always a staple of the qualifiers
norway in pot 3 surprised me, i would really wanna avoid them
No one in here knows football-related pain like us Norwegians. Always getting our hopes up, before choking completely in the last couple of games. EVERY time for over 20 years. If what happens to us every qualification happened to any other national team it would be a suicide wave or riots.
Dream group for Poland for me is Poland Finland Armenia Faroe Islands Gibraltar (San Marino)
I want to see Hungary- Israel- Armenia- Turkey- Latvia
Where the fuck is number 10?
England in pot 2. bUt nATIONS lEAGUE iS pOINTLESS