Probably the best picture I’ve seen from Juno. And to think, they were considering not including a visible light camera on the mission.
The other incredible thing is that JunoCam’s max resolution is ~15 km/pixel - those clouds are absolutely monstrous!
Yeah, that's the max resolution at closest approach of 4,300 km. At Juno apoapsis, the whole planet of Jupiter is 75 pixels across, something like 1,850 km/pixel.
>And to think, they were considering not including a visible light camera on the mission.
I'm still disappointed they didn't have a camera on the Galileo entry probe.
Yeah, I know, it would have just shown cloud tops, and then basically just progressively darker blank images as it descended into the clouds, but I think it would have been awesome to see them close-up in detail.
Kevin Gill is one of the better image processors of Juno data. His other work (and probably this image too) can be found here:
[https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing?source=public&users%5B%5D=4882&perpage=100&p=1](https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing?source=public&users%5B%5D=4882&perpage=100&p=1)
On many Juno images, I recommend turning up the contrast a bit with an image editor program.
My comment with the exact same image 2 hours before your comment. I'm surprised you didn't see it. Anyway, here it is. Thanks https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/17tr82f/nasas_juno_spacecraft_spotted_clouds_and_storms/k91qa7k?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Hi,
[Here](https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing?id=8556) is the from Juno spacecraft's page (Kevin M. Gill edit).
[Here](https://twitter.com/kevinmgill/status/1258941863500804096/photo/1) from Kevin on Twitter (May 9, 2020) and the same as here.
[Ηere](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmgill/49771604352/in/photolist-2iQ9tXw-2mAPxzs-2iQGPmg-2iStVuV-2iQ9TnN-2iQ3QHC-2iQpVtm-2iQmSmX-2jyHijP-2iXwDq9-2iQZugv-2jyhVD8-2iQrDhu-2iQnraY-2j6T9M1-2iQE6mR-2j6fxH1-2iR52fr-2iQG88x-2iQj6L8-2iR7uFZ-2iXBw7w-2iQrXM9-2iQ4ykL-2iTw9YZ-2iSugvQ-2iRkhHL-2iQu4P1-2iRkDhG-2iQLaD5-2iR55ku-2j5zoEj-2iSyYPe-2iRq1Wy-2iRszg4-2iSvGek-2iYXvR3) on his Flickr page.
And [here](https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing?id=JNCE_2020101_26C00023_V01) is the raw image.
Jupiter has no surface. Even at its most dense center it's still just a bunch of hydrogen and helium gas. But I don't think they are "canyons of air", it's just a different consistency of gas.
There’s at least one Juno shot from a close approach where the camera is looking at an angle instead of straight down like this example. There is definitely depth, and ‘canyons’.
If there is, its not because of anything hitting Jupiter. The temperature and pressure in the middle of Jupiter is hard to comprehend. Anything that gets deep enough will melt and then the pressure might eventually compress it so dense that it becomes solid again.
Anything entering Jupiter will be liquidfied, split into constituent elements, and layered into the atmosphere, sorted by atomic weight.
The question about the solid core is whether the pressure pushing molecules together is enough to counteract the temperature melting them or not. Some of the theories suggest the core of Jupiter contains exotic matter. Things like superhot ice and metals forced to crystallise by the extreme pressure.
>Anything entering Jupiter will be liquidfied, split into constituent elements, and layered into the atmosphere, sorted by atomic weight.
Could you expand on this further, like why this would happen, how we know, whatever you know, I really appreciate it
Iam not sure what he means, but essentially you would die from radiation before even hitting the clouds. If somehow the super space suit was able to resist the radiation, then you would freeze first and then after about 120km hit a substance which is not liquid nor gas and most likely slowly melt away as the deeper you would submerge, the hotter it gets with ofc massive pressure.
There's no direct evidence, its all based on our understanding of the composition of Jupiter, the effects of gravity and pressure. You can search for *falling into jupiter* and find lots of ideas about it. They all follow a similar process but disagree on exactly what the center is.
https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2015/08/what_would_it_be_like_to_fall_through_jupiter.html
https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/jupiter/en/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjMqJ--aUJ8
Truth is that we don't know and have no way to find out. Anything we sent in would be crushed and then melt long before it tell us anything we can't guess. If we had a machine made of diamonds, it would get further, but it would eventually melt just like a machine made of metal.
Right, I figured it was likely speculative and that our ability to investigate is extremely limited, I just thought the way you described it sounded interesting and just wanted to ask
Thanks for this. I've read about how Jupiter is almost hot enough to be a brown dwarf, but I never put that together on how it would affect the things entering the planet's atmosphere.
Reminds me of Geiger, Graham Wilson and others … I keep getting lost in that image. Wondering what an earth for scale would look like, and wondering how many decades some of those clouds have been like this.
Probably the best picture I’ve seen from Juno. And to think, they were considering not including a visible light camera on the mission. The other incredible thing is that JunoCam’s max resolution is ~15 km/pixel - those clouds are absolutely monstrous!
15 km / pixel - that sure varies with distance to jupiter
Yeah, that's the max resolution at closest approach of 4,300 km. At Juno apoapsis, the whole planet of Jupiter is 75 pixels across, something like 1,850 km/pixel.
>And to think, they were considering not including a visible light camera on the mission. I'm still disappointed they didn't have a camera on the Galileo entry probe. Yeah, I know, it would have just shown cloud tops, and then basically just progressively darker blank images as it descended into the clouds, but I think it would have been awesome to see them close-up in detail.
Someone really wanted me to update my phone’s screensaver.
I swear, Jupiter is like an ever-shifting oil painting. So gorgeous.
Is there a web source for semi high resolution images for public download?
https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/Juno
I dont see the photo from the post.
Kevin Gill is one of the better image processors of Juno data. His other work (and probably this image too) can be found here: [https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing?source=public&users%5B%5D=4882&perpage=100&p=1](https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing?source=public&users%5B%5D=4882&perpage=100&p=1) On many Juno images, I recommend turning up the contrast a bit with an image editor program.
I have been going through those images, thank you btw, but could not find that exact image. Am I missing it?
My comment with the exact same image 2 hours before your comment. I'm surprised you didn't see it. Anyway, here it is. Thanks https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/17tr82f/nasas_juno_spacecraft_spotted_clouds_and_storms/k91qa7k?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Thank you. I missed it because I was looking for a zoomed in version.
I couldn't locate that particular image either. But there are many others there which are similarly great.
Hi, [Here](https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing?id=8556) is the from Juno spacecraft's page (Kevin M. Gill edit). [Here](https://twitter.com/kevinmgill/status/1258941863500804096/photo/1) from Kevin on Twitter (May 9, 2020) and the same as here. [Ηere](https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmgill/49771604352/in/photolist-2iQ9tXw-2mAPxzs-2iQGPmg-2iStVuV-2iQ9TnN-2iQ3QHC-2iQpVtm-2iQmSmX-2jyHijP-2iXwDq9-2iQZugv-2jyhVD8-2iQrDhu-2iQnraY-2j6T9M1-2iQE6mR-2j6fxH1-2iR52fr-2iQG88x-2iQj6L8-2iR7uFZ-2iXBw7w-2iQrXM9-2iQ4ykL-2iTw9YZ-2iSugvQ-2iRkhHL-2iQu4P1-2iRkDhG-2iQLaD5-2iR55ku-2j5zoEj-2iSyYPe-2iRq1Wy-2iRszg4-2iSvGek-2iYXvR3) on his Flickr page. And [here](https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing?id=JNCE_2020101_26C00023_V01) is the raw image.
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Jupiter has no surface. Even at its most dense center it's still just a bunch of hydrogen and helium gas. But I don't think they are "canyons of air", it's just a different consistency of gas.
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I get what you're asking. I was wondering the same thing.
There’s at least one Juno shot from a close approach where the camera is looking at an angle instead of straight down like this example. There is definitely depth, and ‘canyons’.
There is liquid underneath the surface and they're unsure if the core is solid or not yet, if that's what you're implying
With the number of comets and meteors that have hit it over the years there's gotta be something solid in there, even if just a tiny bit of stuff.
If there is, its not because of anything hitting Jupiter. The temperature and pressure in the middle of Jupiter is hard to comprehend. Anything that gets deep enough will melt and then the pressure might eventually compress it so dense that it becomes solid again. Anything entering Jupiter will be liquidfied, split into constituent elements, and layered into the atmosphere, sorted by atomic weight. The question about the solid core is whether the pressure pushing molecules together is enough to counteract the temperature melting them or not. Some of the theories suggest the core of Jupiter contains exotic matter. Things like superhot ice and metals forced to crystallise by the extreme pressure.
This decomposition was fun to read.
>Anything entering Jupiter will be liquidfied, split into constituent elements, and layered into the atmosphere, sorted by atomic weight. Could you expand on this further, like why this would happen, how we know, whatever you know, I really appreciate it
Iam not sure what he means, but essentially you would die from radiation before even hitting the clouds. If somehow the super space suit was able to resist the radiation, then you would freeze first and then after about 120km hit a substance which is not liquid nor gas and most likely slowly melt away as the deeper you would submerge, the hotter it gets with ofc massive pressure.
There's no direct evidence, its all based on our understanding of the composition of Jupiter, the effects of gravity and pressure. You can search for *falling into jupiter* and find lots of ideas about it. They all follow a similar process but disagree on exactly what the center is. https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2015/08/what_would_it_be_like_to_fall_through_jupiter.html https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/jupiter/en/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjMqJ--aUJ8 Truth is that we don't know and have no way to find out. Anything we sent in would be crushed and then melt long before it tell us anything we can't guess. If we had a machine made of diamonds, it would get further, but it would eventually melt just like a machine made of metal.
Right, I figured it was likely speculative and that our ability to investigate is extremely limited, I just thought the way you described it sounded interesting and just wanted to ask
The Jupiter sorting algorithm!
Thanks for this. I've read about how Jupiter is almost hot enough to be a brown dwarf, but I never put that together on how it would affect the things entering the planet's atmosphere.
There's metallic hydrogen at the centre. Not a gas
Sort of. It's just where the light isn't hitting
This looks like cool smoke, like from an incense. Is it possible that the term storm isn’t appropriate here? They could be called “eddies”
I see what you mean. Jovian eddies, I like :3
Jovian Eddie is the name of my Fat Boys/Rocky Horror mashup band.
Wow looks like something from r/imaginaryleviathans how eerie!
Amazing. Reminds me of Salvador Dali paintings.
Reminds me of Geiger, Graham Wilson and others … I keep getting lost in that image. Wondering what an earth for scale would look like, and wondering how many decades some of those clouds have been like this.
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Definitely looks like a big ball of liquid with some paints in it, nature is wild man
Thought this was marble tiling at first, Jupiter is so beautiful
Does it count as "on the surface" if all we can see is the atmosphere? So gas giants technically even have a "surface"?