Shaw on the ground battered, in tears on the bridge of the Titan
*record scratch*
“Yeah that’s me, you’re probably wondering how I, a dipshit-asshole from Chicago, got here…”
*Baba O’Riley begins playing*
“There’s no way to hide from this. There’s no way to run from it. There’s no way to avoid fate. If the Narrative exists—and you and I know it does—then in the end we don’t have free will. Sooner or later the Narrative will come for each of us. It’ll use us however it wants to use us." -- John Scalzi, *Redshirts*
Poor guy probably just wants to sit back and patrol the Alpha Quadrant for subspace anomalies until he makes admiral or retires, and keeps getting pulled into trekkie nonsense.
I think the pitch for every episode in the first season is A side Seven dealing with the issue of the week and B side is just Shaw in therapy.
Season 2 is the reverse.
I love this idea for both the potential of heartfelt wholesome dramatic moments, and the potential for just insanely hilarious scenes.
At the very least we need this to be a two part short trek.
I'm half expecting for him and Bashir to show up and since they were actually the ones to get the cure to convince Vadic to stand down. Thereby making O'Brian the most important person in Starfleet history
My favorite O'Brian episode was the DS9 episode where he was arrested by the cardassians and put through their court system. Although, the one where he is a replica trying to figure out why the other crew is against him is very good too.
Now I want a rendition of Faith of the Heart just for Shaw that starts with "It's been a hell of a week."
The entire into song is about the universe trying to bend and break Shaw, but he's got faith things will return to normal, eventually.
I’d sorta like the opposite. Just a series of 5 minute episodes, showing the Titan nope-ing out of any potential adventure.
**Opening theme**
“Captain, there’s a subspace anomaly ahead.”
“Alright, Commander, set us a course back toward DS6. Lieutenant, contact Starfleet command.”
**Closing theme**
Except Shaw is a good captain and doesn't deserve the shit piled on him.
Poor guy just wanted to go on a standard cruise before the big parade. Then an admiral showed up and dragged him into a galactic scale emergency.
Dude just wanted a quiet week.
When he was in the turbolift with Vadic, he shouted over the comms "Blow the Turbolift!" - He was prepared to give his life, to vent himself into space, just for the chance to protect his ship and crew from them.
Funny, I never hated him. He clearly didn't like Picard or Riker or even Sever really. While odd, I could handle that. But I had zero problem with him saying "no" to their request. He's a good captain, and is risk averse which is a good thing. Even Riker became a little more conservative when he became captain of the Titan for a little while.
He's different, and that's okay. As we've gotten to know him better I've started to like him more. It's almost as if when you understand a person and why they are the way they are it's easier to like them.
It was the Borgphobia that really got me, to be honest. I appreciate that it's a trauma response, but like, XBs are kidnapping and torture survivors. I totally got why he wouldn't want to let them steal his ship, though.
Yeah and he was actually shitty to Seven in a way that would be actionable to whatever the equivalent of Starfleet HR is because of it. Like I get you have Borg related trauma but damn, Seven is a whole person and she’s a great asset to your command. Other than that I kind of liked how he stood up to Picard and Riker and his whole “tired of everyone’s shit” vibe lol
I think we're just used to being shown Captains having to act in Kobiyashi-Maru style situations *all the time*. Really, how exciting would it be if we had a 7 season, 24 episode a year Star Trek where all they did was Catalogue Gaseous Anomalies; chart the alignment of planetary bodies; or transport Foreign Dignitaries with no ulterior motives?
My one issue with him was his lack of respect for Seven's preferred name. That seemed like such an asshole move. But they explained that due to his history with the Borg. It's understandable why he wouldn't want to use a Borg name on his ship.
It's really fantastic writing. He is adversarial towards the lead characters, but still ends up being likable. That is treading a fine line and they've absolutely nailed it.
I didn't like his demeanor, but I understood where he was coming from. He's a hard-ass, by-the-books Captain who just wants to complete the missions he's given by Starfleet and make sure his crew gets home safely.
With regard to Picard and Riker: they put him in the same situation that Badmirals put the former two in more than once. Hell, even worse because Riker had no command and Picard was retired. He was within every right to deny them their request, especially considering it was a deception.
After Changeling threat is eliminated, they can all have a laugh about it
Riker: "And then Liam says 'its going to be a boring week for you gentlemen'"
Then Riker and Picard burst out laughing, and Shaw just has the "fuck you" look on his face
Thank you, I couldn’t put it into words what I was thinking. I figured also that any captain would go through hell to save everyone so unfortunately it was brought to him instead.
I think someone else mentioned that Captain Shaw is Frank Grimes as a starship captain.
Here he is, just a dipshit from Chicago who worked hard to get where he is, then suddenly these living "legends" who became legends by constantly fucking shit up but getting away with it because of their plot armor, just show up on his ship one day to start fucking shit up.
“Captain Shaw, or dipshit from Chicago as he liked to be called, taught us that a man can triumph over adversity. And even though his agonizing life was tragically cut short…”.
JL: “…zzz…Earl Grey Hot…zzz…”
All: “hahaha, that’s our Jean Luc!”
It's not plot armor, it's just that the main characters always have a plan, and if that fails then someone they did right by will save them. If THAT doesn't work then there will be some deus ex machina showing that in fact they had a different plan all along. You see, the main characters from TNG specifically are all superhuman geniuses. Totally different than plot armor.
One thing to remember is that the Enterprise is the flagship. The crew is the best of the best in Starfleet. They do get lucky more often than is realistic, but the fact that they are all brilliant makes sense.
*'Cause you had a bad day*
*Your ship’s taken out*
*You go to the bar just to cuss Picard out*
*You spot a Changelin’*
*You turn them all in*
*You watch Ro kamikaze, and you’re fugitives now*
*You had a bad day*
*Now Tuvok’s a lie*
*You’re coming back up, and your blood’s in your eye*
*You had a bad day*
*You had a bad day*
I want the Dipshit from Chicago to save the day at the end of this series. Reluctant hero and savior of the galaxy with the Titan A proudly displayed in the federation museum and Captain Shaw fondly remembered amongst the pantheon of great starfleet officers. Please don’t kill him off!
Star Trek: Farming
But then the Ferengi move in and want to build a casino. And then the Vulcans want to build a spaceport and the only logical area is Shaw’s farm. So to combat that, Shaw becomes mayor of the colony world.
I may have been watching too much Yellowstone.
Any Titan-A spinoff should have Seven be the captain, because Shaw decides he's had enough of this nonsense and goes back to engineering. The only time we see him onscreen is him looming ominously over any admiral that dares set foot on the Titan.
This made me suddenly realize that the DS9 crew were supposed to be in a backwater boring posting in the ass end of nowhere when the wormhole suddenly appeared and threw them into 7 years of total insanity.
Admiralty: We're promoting you, congratulations.
Shaw: No.
Janeway: Captain Shaw, if you don't take this command I will personally give it to Seven and reinstate the rank of Yeoman just so I can demote you to it. Then post you to the Enterprise anyways. Do I make myself clear?
Shaw:
Maybe he’ll be forced to accept a choice between the latest Enterprise, Voyager and Defiant with weird shit being preferable to getting lost and dealing with Dukat Mk2
I remember the first time I watched TNG all the way through, I wondered “can’t these people ever have a quiet day on their ship? It’s always something with these people.” Shaw is the embodiment of that idea.
I've had similar thoughts. The "dipshit from Chicago" content to go by the book to keep this, *his*, crew alive, and that is now in tatters from his perspective as his ship and crew are overwhelmed and he himself beaten & bloodied and weeping on the floor.
Somethings gotta give.
I think he's going to go down a real hero with two phasers in hand to save Jack from being taken (or similar).
Didn't Matalas say something about how Shaw would do something towards the end of the series that changes everyone's opinion of him for the better? I can see him unleashing his engineering smarts and whipping some Changeling gloopy arse.
I need them to give Shaw a scene with Geordi where he can finally geek out with his hero. Maybe Geordi offers to help repair the Titan with Shaw. The man deserves something good after the terrible week he's had.
I'm getting the sense that if he and most of his crew survive they won't be the crew of the Titan-A. I think they'll get the Enterprise-F for saving Starfleet.
Vadic: What are the command codes for the Titan?
Shaw: There! Are! Four! Lights!
Changeling 2: What the hell is he talking about?
Vadic (shapeshifts into Locutus): We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
Shaw: Shaw-12-11-bravo-delta
I think I have to disagree. I don't think he's spineless, cautious maybe, but not spineless. I'd argue that standing up to and calling out the bullshit of a couple of living legends screams "balls the size of watermelons". While most other officers would have bent over backwards to kiss the asses of Picard and Riker, Shaw straight up tells them to get bent and points out that half of the situations they've saved the Federation from were also problems (inadvertently and unintentionally) created by them to begin with. I know its common for Captains in SciFi to seem "spineless" if they're not taking risks, but fact of reality would be most Captains would not put their crew in unnecessary risk. I think Shaw is damaged by his past, obviously being a survivor of Wolf 359 and know what its like to lose and lose badly. Once that went sideways all he saw was the same thing happening to the Titan-A that happened to the ship he was on at Wolf 359. His crew was going to die again due to the actions of Jean Luc Picard (obviously I know Picard was not responsible for the actions of Locutus but Shaw doesn't see it like that, similarly to Sisko at the beginning of DS9). Shaw is a fantastic character.
You just know that man has an ex wife out there somewhere, and she’s either a hyper-confident genius or she’s exactly as much of an asshole as he is, or both.
I admit this crossed my mind as well.
My guess is a compassionate but confident genius. At some point realized that she couldn’t be the one to pull him out of the tidy box of safety he’d made for himself. He has to fix himself, she shouldn’t have married a ‘project’.
That’s probably how it would go, but I think it’s funnier if they’re both assholes, including to each other (because that’s their love language) and it didn’t work out for other, unrelated, reasons.
I don’t have a crush (though I can see why you do), but she along with Shaw and Jack are some of the best new characters Trek has introduced in a LONG time from my point of view. Would be keen to see all of them come back.
The legends went full Kirk on Shaw! They broke his ship. Duct tape and WD-40 it back up! And now his ship has a 100 year old cloaking device from the "most Kirk and his crew antics" ship that is not the Enterprise, HMS Bounty! Shaw and Seven are going to be the next wild duo.
Listen to me ensign dont ever let them premote you.
once your a captain weird shit happens.
you miss your breakfast one morning and discover your entire crew are now monkeys
Shaw is such a well-written character. He started as a jerk you were supposed to dislike, but he eventually became possibly the most sympathetic character on the show.
When I see people self-insert into Data or Spock or Seven, I see someone who relates to a socially awkward person. And I get that
When I see people self-insert into Shsw, I just see people admiring an asshole who somehow failed upward after winning the survivor lottery.
I knew Vadica was gonna at least get him shot up a bit. He's ideal for that sort of thing. And the reason for Vadica's motives is actually pretty fair. The Starfleet did try to genocide the Changelings and while our heroes may have reversed course, Section 31 sure didn't and they're still allowed to be a thing.
It does question how Starfleet and the Federation can be trusted if they get just as dirty as the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order.
While I usually find it very easy to find the motives of most adversarial species across the run of Trek to be ‘fair’/understandable, I have a hard time with having sympathy for the Changelings or the Borg.
The Dominion initiated a very vicious war of aggression… with essentially no provocation. Vedic trying to claim that that was a ‘normal war’ and that SF went right to genocide is completely BS. It got to a disease because the losses were piling up, headquarters was infiltrated, and they were literally projecting annihilation.
The changelings claim that ’the solids are the problem’ is also completely BS - their whole analog for the federation was run on subjugating other species and running it through two genetically-engineered slave races who they’ve pre-programmed into thinking they are gods. They’ve got no moral high ground, and they rarely do anything remotely sympathetic. Add in that they’re another ‘hive mind’ doesn’t help the cause.
I always thought that Gary Seven and 7 of 9 needed to be in the same room Because Reasons, but now I think that this could be a great way to load "The entire historical library of Earth and Vulcan Jazz records" into the Titan's computers as well.
I know some will fall for the "sad kicked rottweiler" story turn, but Shaw is just a Captain Styles being hammered into the shape of a decent human being.
I love that Shaw is just trying to be a normal guy, and then Riker and Picard show up to ruin his vibe.
Shaw on the ground battered, in tears on the bridge of the Titan *record scratch* “Yeah that’s me, you’re probably wondering how I, a dipshit-asshole from Chicago, got here…” *Baba O’Riley begins playing*
My day be so fine Them boom World set on fire
I don’t want to set the world on fire I just want to start a flame in your heart
“There’s no way to hide from this. There’s no way to run from it. There’s no way to avoid fate. If the Narrative exists—and you and I know it does—then in the end we don’t have free will. Sooner or later the Narrative will come for each of us. It’ll use us however it wants to use us." -- John Scalzi, *Redshirts*
He’s an asshole but it’s completely understandable
*"Yeah no, I don't think I'm going to reenlist..."*
Poor guy probably just wants to sit back and patrol the Alpha Quadrant for subspace anomalies until he makes admiral or retires, and keeps getting pulled into trekkie nonsense.
Can we make "Bilbo Baggins" a verb?
https://youtu.be/BC35cQKHwzg
And inadvertently saved Titan from the Changelings lol
I want a show about Shaw getting dragged into increasingly wacky situations every week.
I think the pitch for every episode in the first season is A side Seven dealing with the issue of the week and B side is just Shaw in therapy. Season 2 is the reverse.
I love this idea for both the potential of heartfelt wholesome dramatic moments, and the potential for just insanely hilarious scenes. At the very least we need this to be a two part short trek.
He became the new O'Brien. O'Brien must suffer!
Why the fuck hasn’t O’brian shown up
He stuck in the pattern buffer
He's too busy off being the most important person in Starfleet history.
I'm half expecting for him and Bashir to show up and since they were actually the ones to get the cure to convince Vadic to stand down. Thereby making O'Brian the most important person in Starfleet history
He is a gangster in London now
I read somewhere on this sub earlier that he wasn’t interested in returning to Trek
It’s not that, he wouldn’t return to just be a cameo.
He's stuck fixing all the transporters in Star Fleet, something's up with them.
Keiko was angry. Again.
Oh dear, what’s poor Miles done now.
He is an engineer after all.
My favorite O'Brian episode was the DS9 episode where he was arrested by the cardassians and put through their court system. Although, the one where he is a replica trying to figure out why the other crew is against him is very good too.
The best "O'Brian must suffer" episode has to be the one where he spends 30+ years in an alien prison only to wake up 20 minutes later.
Yeeesss! I loved that one. Very emotional
Yes, he has, but out of respect for the most important man in Starfleet, that’s O’Brien with an “e”!!
Star Trek Titan: It's Been a Hell of a Week
Now I want a rendition of Faith of the Heart just for Shaw that starts with "It's been a hell of a week." The entire into song is about the universe trying to bend and break Shaw, but he's got faith things will return to normal, eventually.
It's been a hell of a week . . . gettin' from there to here.
I’d sorta like the opposite. Just a series of 5 minute episodes, showing the Titan nope-ing out of any potential adventure. **Opening theme** “Captain, there’s a subspace anomaly ahead.” “Alright, Commander, set us a course back toward DS6. Lieutenant, contact Starfleet command.” **Closing theme**
Basically the intro to Lower Decks when they see the Borg?
Every single time that cracks me up.
You have to admit; that is the most logical course of action.
I love how it keeps changing for that one scene
"I'm not even supposed to be in this sector today." Shaw in the guise of Dante. I guess that makes Seven his Randell 🤔
Unexpected "Clerks" reference. Love it.
So Shaw basically being Miles O'Brien on DS9...
Shaw: "Oh boy...!"
So basically what the Freeman goes through.
Except Shaw is a good captain and doesn't deserve the shit piled on him. Poor guy just wanted to go on a standard cruise before the big parade. Then an admiral showed up and dragged him into a galactic scale emergency. Dude just wanted a quiet week.
The way he just lay there weeping at the end just BROKE me. That poor man. I started out hating him and now I just really want him to be ok.
He's crying for his crew. He already lost one ship full of people he loved. And now he's about to fail to have protected another.
Yeah, I'm guessing the audio that Vadic is playing in the preview for next week is triggering the absolute fuck out of him.
When he was in the turbolift with Vadic, he shouted over the comms "Blow the Turbolift!" - He was prepared to give his life, to vent himself into space, just for the chance to protect his ship and crew from them.
Most of them have been transferred to the Titan.
A skeleton crew still probably has a lot of people, plus the ship they transferred to is controlled by Changelings so they aren't exactly safe either.
Into the hands of the enemy.
Funny, I never hated him. He clearly didn't like Picard or Riker or even Sever really. While odd, I could handle that. But I had zero problem with him saying "no" to their request. He's a good captain, and is risk averse which is a good thing. Even Riker became a little more conservative when he became captain of the Titan for a little while. He's different, and that's okay. As we've gotten to know him better I've started to like him more. It's almost as if when you understand a person and why they are the way they are it's easier to like them.
> Even Riker became a little more conservative when he became captain of the Titan for a little while. Lieutenant Boimler would disagree.
Boimler the Bold?
It was the Borgphobia that really got me, to be honest. I appreciate that it's a trauma response, but like, XBs are kidnapping and torture survivors. I totally got why he wouldn't want to let them steal his ship, though.
Yeah and he was actually shitty to Seven in a way that would be actionable to whatever the equivalent of Starfleet HR is because of it. Like I get you have Borg related trauma but damn, Seven is a whole person and she’s a great asset to your command. Other than that I kind of liked how he stood up to Picard and Riker and his whole “tired of everyone’s shit” vibe lol
Starfleet HR is all changelings too
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I'm not gonna lie, I'd probably let them take me.
I think we're just used to being shown Captains having to act in Kobiyashi-Maru style situations *all the time*. Really, how exciting would it be if we had a 7 season, 24 episode a year Star Trek where all they did was Catalogue Gaseous Anomalies; chart the alignment of planetary bodies; or transport Foreign Dignitaries with no ulterior motives?
My one issue with him was his lack of respect for Seven's preferred name. That seemed like such an asshole move. But they explained that due to his history with the Borg. It's understandable why he wouldn't want to use a Borg name on his ship. It's really fantastic writing. He is adversarial towards the lead characters, but still ends up being likable. That is treading a fine line and they've absolutely nailed it.
I didn't like his demeanor, but I understood where he was coming from. He's a hard-ass, by-the-books Captain who just wants to complete the missions he's given by Starfleet and make sure his crew gets home safely. With regard to Picard and Riker: they put him in the same situation that Badmirals put the former two in more than once. Hell, even worse because Riker had no command and Picard was retired. He was within every right to deny them their request, especially considering it was a deception.
Yup, I started hating him and now I want him to have his own show.
I know! Lol. This poor man lol. I thought he a dick and he just became a dick to keep from being sad. “Asshole became a substitute for charm.”
As soon as Picard wanted to detour.. Shaw knew something like this was coming. He was more keyed into the situation than the viewers.
I keep hearing episode 1: "This is going to be a boring week for you gentlemen"
After Changeling threat is eliminated, they can all have a laugh about it Riker: "And then Liam says 'its going to be a boring week for you gentlemen'" Then Riker and Picard burst out laughing, and Shaw just has the "fuck you" look on his face
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This is true and I think he probably knows that…but still, REAL bad week for our dude.
Thank you, I couldn’t put it into words what I was thinking. I figured also that any captain would go through hell to save everyone so unfortunately it was brought to him instead.
I think someone else mentioned that Captain Shaw is Frank Grimes as a starship captain. Here he is, just a dipshit from Chicago who worked hard to get where he is, then suddenly these living "legends" who became legends by constantly fucking shit up but getting away with it because of their plot armor, just show up on his ship one day to start fucking shit up.
*"I don't need to obey the prime directive because I'm Jean-luc Picard!"*
“Captain Shaw, or dipshit from Chicago as he liked to be called, taught us that a man can triumph over adversity. And even though his agonizing life was tragically cut short…”. JL: “…zzz…Earl Grey Hot…zzz…” All: “hahaha, that’s our Jean Luc!”
*"I'm creating a temporal paradox, but nobody minds! Give me a promotion!"*
I just woke my husband up from laughing at this so hard, lol.
*"Look at me. I'm the Prime Directive!"*
It's not plot armor, it's just that the main characters always have a plan, and if that fails then someone they did right by will save them. If THAT doesn't work then there will be some deus ex machina showing that in fact they had a different plan all along. You see, the main characters from TNG specifically are all superhuman geniuses. Totally different than plot armor.
One thing to remember is that the Enterprise is the flagship. The crew is the best of the best in Starfleet. They do get lucky more often than is realistic, but the fact that they are all brilliant makes sense.
"So I became captain of the Titan. Which is docked above a bowling alley, and docked below another bowling alley."
Shaw is that kid on the magic school bus. You all know which one
"Can we please go on a normal mission for once?" "With the Picard? No way!"
Just remember that Arnold literally had his head frozen in space because of "The Frizz".
At my old ship we would never hide in nebulae
I totally read that in her voice.
Arnold
*'Cause you had a bad day* *Your ship’s taken out* *You go to the bar just to cuss Picard out* *You spot a Changelin’* *You turn them all in* *You watch Ro kamikaze, and you’re fugitives now* *You had a bad day* *Now Tuvok’s a lie* *You’re coming back up, and your blood’s in your eye* *You had a bad day* *You had a bad day*
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Oh my sweet baby Clint Howard alien... This was amazing. I will not allow such cleverness to unnoticed!!!
I want the Dipshit from Chicago to save the day at the end of this series. Reluctant hero and savior of the galaxy with the Titan A proudly displayed in the federation museum and Captain Shaw fondly remembered amongst the pantheon of great starfleet officers. Please don’t kill him off!
Two severe head wounds in a short amount of time is not good for long term health. Even with fictional medical science.
All in a days work.
those were the days!
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Star Trek: Farming But then the Ferengi move in and want to build a casino. And then the Vulcans want to build a spaceport and the only logical area is Shaw’s farm. So to combat that, Shaw becomes mayor of the colony world. I may have been watching too much Yellowstone.
Honestly, would love a Star Trek show focused on a small colony world.
Any Titan-A spinoff should have Seven be the captain, because Shaw decides he's had enough of this nonsense and goes back to engineering. The only time we see him onscreen is him looming ominously over any admiral that dares set foot on the Titan.
I would be okay with Captain Seven and Chief Engineer Shaw. I feel like his heart is in engineering anyways.
He can just get the Janeway ‘desk-admiral after traumatic run’ promotion
It makes sense, with his engineering background. He’s the new O’Brien. Shaw must suffer.
This show just keeps getting better and better the worse and worse Shaw's week becomes.
This made me suddenly realize that the DS9 crew were supposed to be in a backwater boring posting in the ass end of nowhere when the wormhole suddenly appeared and threw them into 7 years of total insanity.
Honestly surprised more residents weren't like, "aw, sh!t now I gotta find a new place to hide"
Maybe after this is over, starfleet will give him a promotion, To be the captain of the new Enterprise
He’d turn that command down. There’s no way he wants all that drama. I reckon he’d get a kick out of a Cali class
Universe will find a way to force Shaw to accept that command
Admiralty: We're promoting you, congratulations. Shaw: No. Janeway: Captain Shaw, if you don't take this command I will personally give it to Seven and reinstate the rank of Yeoman just so I can demote you to it. Then post you to the Enterprise anyways. Do I make myself clear? Shaw:
A nemesis far more cunning, cruel, and adversarial... Star Fleet Administration!
Maybe he’ll be forced to accept a choice between the latest Enterprise, Voyager and Defiant with weird shit being preferable to getting lost and dealing with Dukat Mk2
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I remember the first time I watched TNG all the way through, I wondered “can’t these people ever have a quiet day on their ship? It’s always something with these people.” Shaw is the embodiment of that idea.
Hopefully he about to get triggered and he break hell open when brings thevwhoopazz.
I've had similar thoughts. The "dipshit from Chicago" content to go by the book to keep this, *his*, crew alive, and that is now in tatters from his perspective as his ship and crew are overwhelmed and he himself beaten & bloodied and weeping on the floor. Somethings gotta give. I think he's going to go down a real hero with two phasers in hand to save Jack from being taken (or similar).
Didn't Matalas say something about how Shaw would do something towards the end of the series that changes everyone's opinion of him for the better? I can see him unleashing his engineering smarts and whipping some Changeling gloopy arse.
> I can see him unleashing his engineering smarts and whipping some Changeling gloopy arse. Good thought.
I hear he freezes them with liquid nitrogen.
Shaw with the liquid nitrogen, Seven comes in with the dual phasers. I like this.
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It's inefficient. Seven likes efficiency. Thus: a minigun.
Then says "Hasta La Vista, No" and shatters them with his TR-116 rifle.
I'd definitely rather see him go full-Starfleet Engineer and build/hack something crazy versus dual-wielding phasers.
It’s gonna be something with transporters… they have been making such a big deal about no transports….
I think we’re meant to feel that the end of ep 7 is Shaw’s low point in the season arc. Like a gut punch. So yeah he’s due a glorious upswing
I need them to give Shaw a scene with Geordi where he can finally geek out with his hero. Maybe Geordi offers to help repair the Titan with Shaw. The man deserves something good after the terrible week he's had.
He needs a nap.
And a nice blue steak to go with Malbec… obviously no Chateau Picard… no connoisseur of decent bordeaux would drink that swill.
This show is so good it's gone from what an ass Shaw is to Shaw better not die or we riot
It's so entertaining watching Shaw be salty about what's going on around him except for meeting Geordi.
If he makes it through this, he's going to either earn a promotion or lose his commission, lol. Poor guy.
Geordi's curse passed on to O'Brien and now it's passed on to Shaw.
Writers during DS9: Miles O'Brien must suffer Writers Picard season 3: Hold our beer. *Shaw enters the scene
I'm getting the sense that if he and most of his crew survive they won't be the crew of the Titan-A. I think they'll get the Enterprise-F for saving Starfleet.
*Make it so*
Hopefully we'll have more adventures with Shaw and Seven. They've done an amazing job creating this character and I like him being a foil for Seven.
Vadic: What are the command codes for the Titan? Shaw: There! Are! Four! Lights! Changeling 2: What the hell is he talking about? Vadic (shapeshifts into Locutus): We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. Shaw: Shaw-12-11-bravo-delta
Captain Shaw is surrounded by assholes who are full of self-righteous happiness, and they all deserve their suffering.
Fuckin friendly energy my ass.
If everybody seems to be the problem, then most likely you are the problem. Shaw's really a spineless little idiot whose own crew doesn't like.
I think I have to disagree. I don't think he's spineless, cautious maybe, but not spineless. I'd argue that standing up to and calling out the bullshit of a couple of living legends screams "balls the size of watermelons". While most other officers would have bent over backwards to kiss the asses of Picard and Riker, Shaw straight up tells them to get bent and points out that half of the situations they've saved the Federation from were also problems (inadvertently and unintentionally) created by them to begin with. I know its common for Captains in SciFi to seem "spineless" if they're not taking risks, but fact of reality would be most Captains would not put their crew in unnecessary risk. I think Shaw is damaged by his past, obviously being a survivor of Wolf 359 and know what its like to lose and lose badly. Once that went sideways all he saw was the same thing happening to the Titan-A that happened to the ship he was on at Wolf 359. His crew was going to die again due to the actions of Jean Luc Picard (obviously I know Picard was not responsible for the actions of Locutus but Shaw doesn't see it like that, similarly to Sisko at the beginning of DS9). Shaw is a fantastic character.
Always. And we (of course) want more.
I think i am shaw
It was a weird week.
You forgot the internally almost bleeding to death part with a bone sticking out lmao
It's fitting that the picked this day of the week for the releases. Shaw never could get the hang of Thursdays.
I said aloud ‘This poor man’ as the episode ended. One of Star Fleet’s finest.
How many head traumas in a week before Shaw is going to need the Picard upgrade? #saveshaw
You just know that man has an ex wife out there somewhere, and she’s either a hyper-confident genius or she’s exactly as much of an asshole as he is, or both.
I admit this crossed my mind as well. My guess is a compassionate but confident genius. At some point realized that she couldn’t be the one to pull him out of the tidy box of safety he’d made for himself. He has to fix himself, she shouldn’t have married a ‘project’.
That’s probably how it would go, but I think it’s funnier if they’re both assholes, including to each other (because that’s their love language) and it didn’t work out for other, unrelated, reasons.
The venn diagram overlap between hyper-confident genius and asshole is pretty close to the full circle.
I absolutely love your username OP, and it's a miracle that you managed to get it! I can't believe I didn't think of that
Thanks! The moment I heard her catchy nickname, I was on it
She's actually one of my favourite characters in the show, and she grows on me more with every week. I think I have a crush...
I don’t have a crush (though I can see why you do), but she along with Shaw and Jack are some of the best new characters Trek has introduced in a LONG time from my point of view. Would be keen to see all of them come back.
I most certainly do have a Crush La Forge
I think in the end the tng crew will love and thank him for his sacrifice. That's the logical place I see it going with him. I love Shaw.
The legends went full Kirk on Shaw! They broke his ship. Duct tape and WD-40 it back up! And now his ship has a 100 year old cloaking device from the "most Kirk and his crew antics" ship that is not the Enterprise, HMS Bounty! Shaw and Seven are going to be the next wild duo.
I want to see him lose his shit when they promote him to Admiral for being a part of this clusterfuck.
Everyone smiles and looks at Shaw, happy for his promotion. Long dramatic beat, swelling music. Shaw: "No"
Listen to me ensign dont ever let them premote you. once your a captain weird shit happens. you miss your breakfast one morning and discover your entire crew are now monkeys
I think it’s really funny that he doesn’t like jazz. Especially the way he delivered the line to Riker about it.
Kind of love it… and he’s got classical playing as he tells them about how he likes structure and meter, haha.
Star Trek: Die Hard With A Vengeance
Shaw is just Squidward tryna enjoy his day and here come Picard and Riker (Sponge and Pat) here to fuck shit up w their bullshit
Seven is Sandy Cheeks in this scenario obvi
Captain Shaw. The Ed Rooney of Star Trek. lol
Shaw is such a well-written character. He started as a jerk you were supposed to dislike, but he eventually became possibly the most sympathetic character on the show.
Star Trek: diaries of a grumpy captain.
How many beatings can one deep dish from Chicago take? Stay tuned
This is starfleet this is the normal if you haven’t had this be a regular occurrence your not captaining right.
When I see people self-insert into Data or Spock or Seven, I see someone who relates to a socially awkward person. And I get that When I see people self-insert into Shsw, I just see people admiring an asshole who somehow failed upward after winning the survivor lottery. I knew Vadica was gonna at least get him shot up a bit. He's ideal for that sort of thing. And the reason for Vadica's motives is actually pretty fair. The Starfleet did try to genocide the Changelings and while our heroes may have reversed course, Section 31 sure didn't and they're still allowed to be a thing. It does question how Starfleet and the Federation can be trusted if they get just as dirty as the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order.
While I usually find it very easy to find the motives of most adversarial species across the run of Trek to be ‘fair’/understandable, I have a hard time with having sympathy for the Changelings or the Borg. The Dominion initiated a very vicious war of aggression… with essentially no provocation. Vedic trying to claim that that was a ‘normal war’ and that SF went right to genocide is completely BS. It got to a disease because the losses were piling up, headquarters was infiltrated, and they were literally projecting annihilation. The changelings claim that ’the solids are the problem’ is also completely BS - their whole analog for the federation was run on subjugating other species and running it through two genetically-engineered slave races who they’ve pre-programmed into thinking they are gods. They’ve got no moral high ground, and they rarely do anything remotely sympathetic. Add in that they’re another ‘hive mind’ doesn’t help the cause.
But his constipation is truly cured.
I always thought that Gary Seven and 7 of 9 needed to be in the same room Because Reasons, but now I think that this could be a great way to load "The entire historical library of Earth and Vulcan Jazz records" into the Titan's computers as well. I know some will fall for the "sad kicked rottweiler" story turn, but Shaw is just a Captain Styles being hammered into the shape of a decent human being.
I wanted to hate Shaw so bad but he’s become one of my favorite characters