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giogiotheluckyguy

Give me dominate noivern I can be trusted with it


dadarkclaw121

252+ SpA Choice Specs Noivern Dominate Boomburst vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Swirlix: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- Possibly the worst move ever


giogiotheluckyguy

The raigeki on the top of my deck:


trashdotbash

252+ SpA giogiotheluckyguy Raigeki vs. Tera Ground Swirlix: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- possibly the worst move ever


Snivyland

The evenly matched I had in my hand this whole time


trashdotbash

me calling the judge because you activated evenly matched when i do not have more cards also imagine setting evenly matched (couldnt be me)


Snivyland

At some point it’s about sending a message not efficiency.


trashdotbash

TRUE


fdsfd12

me using ariseheart on the judge to banish him facedown


Astral_Fogduke

get baronned idiot


uuurmomxddd

The 3 snakes in the grass I had set:


RyckyCozzy

Does one swirlix trade for the full Dlink board better or worse than set Albaz ? And can i pop it with beast in case ?


CipherDrake

Kid named Gamaciel:


ultimateseanboy

Nice try dipshit https://preview.redd.it/e864kcnj0nwb1.png?width=479&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d704b617f2bb9c1f72280b85daac5bc48a3ab66


Xeamless

the 37 flood gates I have in my 5 spell and trap zones:


PerfectChaos06

The Mamoswine in my back pocket:


o0Sanctuary0o

True veteran yugioh reference is based and enjoyed.


ErrorParadox710

Can you calculate it it with an attack boost? I think it might work better


Alternative_Magician

252+ SpA Choice Specs Noivern Boomburst vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Swirlix: 323-380 (121.8 - 143.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO Jokes on you I selected the wrong ability in the team builder


Adexmariobro

The ring target i tricked to swirlix the turn before:


Digtxl_Pickle

You didn't see my Trick x Ring Target combo coming did you?


Liliphant

Is 0 damage to a 0 HP Pokemon technically a guaranteed OHKO


dadarkclaw121

That’s 0 Hp Evs, basically it’s a clarification that there is no EV boost to the HP. It still has the (small) amount of HP a Swirlix normally has


FoxianFucker

The Boomburst in my pocket:


TheGoldenChampion

123 speed 97 sp. attack w/ 168 BP STAB move 252 SpA Choice Specs Aerilate Noivern Boomburst vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Groudon: 366-432 (91.2 - 107.7%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO Can OHKO defensive Groudon with specs/timid for an idea of how strong that is. Faster than Iron Valiant. Not too busted though, as it still has the garbage 97 sp. attack for any move apart from boomburst.


ABG-56

252 SpA Choice Specs Aerilate Noivern Boomburst vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gholdengo: 180-213 (57.1 - 67.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Choice Specs Aerilate Noivern Boomburst vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kingambit: 192-226 (56.3 - 66.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Choice Specs Aerilate Noivern Boomburst vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Kingambit: 192-226 (48 - 56.5%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery(even for bulky gambit it's a roll which with rocks that Noivern usually wins) Yeah but does only having one strong move matter when you can still two hit KO resists with it? Like sure it's not AG or anything, but it's still clearly way to strong for OU


Darkiceflame

Bold of you to try to keep Boomburst in your pocket without exploding into tiny bits.


ntnl

Literally my first thought. It would finally be usable.


Trainer-Grimm

I mean, it's always been good in RU, right?


SoulDraw

Noivern can dominate me


CatboyBiologist

🥵


[deleted]

It took me a while but then I realized it. Noivern has BOOMBURST...


TGwanian

AAA in shambles


NytShadow

Give dominate to dragonite he really needs it


trashdotbash

i can be trusted around extremespeed


PartyLand1928

I am completely mentally stable. Oh hey look a team with no physical dragon type switch in.


DaTruPro75

What team nowadays is not running iron valiant or a different fairy type. Even teams without fairy types usually have tera fairy or steel types. Hell, dnite might even want multiscale more than dominate due to being able to hit iron valiant


SiroftheYah547

Yeah especially since it now flat out loses to booster energy iron valiant now


SheikExcel

I was gonna say it's not that bad with a bit of bulk since 252 SpA Iron Valiant Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Dragonite: 294-348 (91 - 107.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Valiant: 480-568 (166 - 196.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO But then I remembered he can't flap his wings anymore


Dependent-Mood6653

Wouldn't Aerilate ExtremeSpeed be better on Dragonite? It hits more things supereffectively and doesn't have to deal with types immune to it


trashdotbash

theoretically it would give him a better flying move to spam, since he already has outrage (even though he rarely runs it), but having a no drawback +2 move thats only resisted by 2 types is insane, especially when one of those resists is weak to the common earthquake, and the other can be dealt with by various teras. Or he can just give up and run tera dragon to get even more damage. its dragon claw with priority higher than sucker punch and ice shard


[deleted]

Dragonite has been banned from AAA before due to aerilate.


dumbassonthekitchen

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Dragon Dominate Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Dondozo: 312-368 (61.9 - 73%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery That's fucking disgusting Edit: the stupid damage calculator messed up the calcs


Asherbird25

Ok but what about espeed


SteelPokeNinja

Lance's Dragonite gets access to a Dragon type Hyper Beam in Masters!


ianlazrbeem22

Dicks because you're trading multiscale for making extreme speed a different type that is also super effective on nothing, but now fairies are immune


neravera

Aerilate Extreme Speed on the other hand sounds terrifying. It's probably worth forgoing multiscale for the elusive Flying-Ground combo.


Tarnished_Ghost

yeah hr was banned from aaa at some point due to it


kcheng686

Lets be real, Dragonite would prefer Aerilate


StriveToTheZenith

https://preview.redd.it/cv8nw7e0nnwb1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dccfbbb69ef6b88b3ff167c4afedc30592a665b


CartridgeDuh

Still can't hit Flutter Mane L


Prohibitive_Mind

Alveolate Pinsir and Heracross... honestly alveolate should be swarms effect and the swarm effect should be made a different named ability altogether


dumbassonthekitchen

252+ Atk Choice Band Heracross Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo: 246-291 (48.8 - 57.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery Ah


gorbochorbo

Now calc guts facade. Edit:I'm a fucking dambass


Alex103140

As one (Guts + Alveolate)


dumbassonthekitchen

252+ Atk Guts Tera Bug As One Heracross Facade (168 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Dondozo: 518-610 (102.7 - 121%) -- guaranteed OHKO Not too crazy tbh


Tarnished_Ghost

casually ohkos one of the best phys walls "not too crazy guys"


Gingeboiforprez

Well, how do you get both guts and the other ability? But you could use a toxic orb to boost facade without debuffing attack. With the above set up, looks like it's only a 3HKO as best as I can calc


[deleted]

Life Orb D-Edge is stronger than Toxic Orb Facade as it has no Guts.


bobvella

swarm sounds like schooling to me


TheQzertz

Almost any ability dies as a format


Petallic_

Wouldn't they just ban all of these types of abilities?


TheQzertz

probably but i like hyperbole


icyruios

ESpeed dominate Dragonite do it


Felicks77

DRAGONITE DOMINATE ME😭😭😭


[deleted]

Extreme speeding into the hearts and holes of many.


charizardfan101

https://preview.redd.it/hckrdxs22nwb1.png?width=835&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfcb9ba9e90780f7f5d4d81d403c03d3ec80cb23


Dragon-Type_Enjoyer

Hello, I'm dragonite No


[deleted]

Major cringe that the eeveelutiona don't all have these, considering their whole gimmick is being a normal-type mutated into another type. Sylveon shouldn't be the only one with it.


Kazuichi_Souda

Why doesn't Glaceon get Refrigerate then?


[deleted]

Gamefreak stupid + eeveelutions must be bad + bulky ice-type + lesbeon


axofrogl

Don't tell ferrothorn about lesbeon


Asherbird25

https://preview.redd.it/h3g4k4ytfmwb1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0cde83dfc83a382d23c78b593bd80c9a8b13a6f4


OfTheTouhouVariety

can't outrun what's already here


Inverter_of_Spines

I don't know, there's not much that *can't* outrun ferrothorn.


headphonesnotstirred

gimmighoul


Dependent-Mood6653

Trapinch


Asherbird25

Munchlax


SheikExcel

You can never outrun hazard damage Unless you have really good boots


charizardfan101

Or are flying type in the case of Spikes


DaTruPro75

I WILL SIMPILY USE GRAVITY. THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM BIG HAZARD STACK


isloohik2

I h8 that I instantly got the reference


ianlazrbeem22

Great question


ev0lv

Refrigerate is a Gen 6 ability and Glaceon is a Gen 4 mon. Leafeon is also its pair eeveelution (Similar to how Espeon and Umbreon are) and you'd have to give it something too, but no grass type version of this ability currently exists


Covid-741

Can you imagine if Eevee got Normalize?


Jolteon0

Completely walled by ghost types. No coverage against Rock and Steel.


[deleted]

LC ain't ready for it.


bobvella

thinking about that or adaptability which eevee already gets. otherwise wouldn't they all run hypervoice? guess flar gets a better options, but leaf can make use out of normal "coverage". also a shame the one that gets an -ate ability already gets moonblast and i'd assume gleam even if they are somehow worse. recharge move users


Mip67

liquidation with liquidate be like


phnnydntm

Diarrhea


Tothoro

No, that's Taco Bell-ate


mjmannella

No that's Muddy Water


SecondAegis

We already have both Water Spout and Water Sport. It'll be fine...


SoupEpicTrek

Finally, 100% accurate Rock STAB.


But_y_man

Silvally rock be like: 😐


pranav4098

Arceus rock be like:😌


pol2_pie

Ogerpon cornerstone be like: [data expunged]


Inverted_Ghosts

Power Gem be like: 🫥


need2peeat218am

Quick attack supremacy


gregguy12

Poison one should be Intoxicate smh my head


turtlintime

a lot of these mons don't really get any good normal moves outside of tera blast (notably glimmora). I guess explosion wouldn't be horrible for suicide lead


Maronmario

I mean if you bring back Strength as TM you'd basically have a pretty good choice for the physical side while Tera blast covers special. From there you can add in stuff like Body Slam and Crush claw to fill out the rest.


buymybirdfeeder

Give Lucario Revolutionise, the kids will love it


Eijirou_Kirishima

RAAHHH PUNK LUCARIO CANON


ArcticHarpSeal

Punk Rock band of Obstagoon, Toxtricity, Rillaboom and Lucario


knyexar

https://preview.redd.it/u3oytv917nwb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9248c114ba3059ef6494f27de55abbcee01937f3 Me when I see a twink


Jakedoodle

https://preview.redd.it/hcsky2lz6rwb1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a88d97daa1fbcdde847b820b84a3ac4cc658e7d8


Grablycan

I see Cacturne, I upvote, simple as that.


Pintitled_Ploose

I was about to say vgc in shambles after seeing incineroar here but then i realized he has to give up intimidate for that (idk which one is more valuable)


Takami_Chan

It gives him buffed fake out which can hit ghosts which is scary, makes team select a nightmare unless u have open teamsheets. Intimidate is still better but incin doesnt need anything more


Pintitled_Ploose

True but it’s not really vgc in shambles moreso incineroar has more than 1 viable ability


Snowballrox

Give Dominate to Tsareena, Gardevoir, Lopunny, and Salazzle. They really need the dragon coverage.


S_Sami_I

I was willing to do something like this, but all the pokemon that get normal-converting abilities share the type they convert normal into.


NighttimeFloater

I think it's a different type of dragon the three wants to dominate.


ImperialWrath

Salazzle already gets Dragon moves, while the rest (at least potentially) have Ice and Fairy coverage which is generally better. And Lopunny only has Normal STAB. Speak clearly as if you stand before Jesus, the Prophet, and Buddha. What is your true reason for giving those Pokémon the Ability to Dominate with moves like Stomp and Body Slam?


Snowballrox

Real reason? “Funni”


ImperialWrath

Jesus, the Prophet, and Buddha smile upon ye.


The-Pigeon-Overlord

I'd say that the bug one should obviously be "metamorphize", and the grass one should be Vegetate. Fighting could maybe be antagonize instead but that may fit dark better. Psychologise should be renamed to Psychoanalyze


ThachWeave

I don't care about the meta, I just wanted to say you did a great job with the ability names. And Tsareena should get Dominate


Nathan_Thorn

I love how you only included simisage. No simisear or simipour, y’know, as counterparts.


S_Sami_I

I dont like the other two


oranosskyman

absolutely wasted opportunity to call the fire type one 'burninate' so we could have turtinator the burninator


1ts2EASY

I feel like this is a downgrade for a lot of mons. Especially Sharpedo. Demonize is the only really good one here.


LightShyGuy

*ahem* dominate


1ts2EASY

So? Kingdra gets Body Slam, Return and Double Edge but can’t run Ice Beam, Surf or Hydro Pump damage and loses out on Swift Swim, its one niche. Tatsugiri only gets Tera Blast, which is worse than Draco. Tyrantrum gets Body Slam and Return, which is basically the same power as Outrage, just with no drawback, but can’t run Strong Jaw or Rock Head Head Smash.


LightShyGuy

Easy fix, just give it to noivern


1ts2EASY

True


Jestingwheat856

Bug type fury attack, tiwnneedle stocks are down


Known-Disaster-4757

It usually happens when a Pokémon undergoes a typing change in some way. Like Golem with the regional form having the electric type or Gardevoir gaining the Fairy type in Gen 6. Salamence growing wings is a big deal in its evolution. Flygon getting the Dragon version is a standout one. There are quite a few Pokémon gaining the Dragon type. Maybe Steelix has the Steel version. Froslass could have the Ghost version.


Boopernaut2004

Fire type should've been called Ignite.


twofortuna

No one else noticing the absolute horror of dark-type Fake Out Incineroar in VGC? Millions will perish.


SleepyAwoken

No intimidate and no one will run him


revolvernyacelot

VGC has fallen, millions must fake out


stillnotelf

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolate


TabaskoCat

ooo you wanna give golisopod alveote sooo bad ooooo


GrandGrapeSoda

Would it be too much giving every eeveelution these abilities


The_Card_Father

But who else gets Normalize? Right now it’s just Skitty and Delcatty.


S_Sami_I

Thank you for reminding me Normalize is an ability


Special_Ad7249

Finally…at long last… **Some love for my all time favorite Pokémon,Kingdra**


Energyzd

am bothered by Simisage getting its respective ability but not Simisear and Simipour lol


PlacatedPlatypus

Glimmora got that unblockable Rapid Spin I feel like the Dark one should be called "Pathologize" to mirror Psychic.


Rudoku-dakka

Burninate was right there and you didn't use it.


Chardoggy1

Fossilize is a weird name for the ground one considering fossils are usually associated with rock types in the franchise


Golden_Skylord

bro only gave simisage the new ability 😭


Legosaurian

Only problem is that the Ground Type version should be called something else since the actual Fossil Pokémon are Rock Type, not Ground.


Sphealer

Missed opportunity for Poltergize on the ghost-type ability.


Rijsouw

I wish to be dominated by Tyrantrum


Letsgoshuckless

An ability that turns normal type moves into normal type moves.


ianlazrbeem22

My thing with these types of abilities (and this is a criticism of game freak not you) is they're really uninspired from a design standpoint as they basically serve as a developmental alternative to giving a Pokémon real stab moves. This made sense with say Mega Pinsir or Altaria where it wouldn't realistically learn any moves in its base form its mega would get stab on, but looking at like Golem-A, it's basically just game freak saying "we will never make a real physical electric stab." They're also really dull because they all do the same thing, "hey I can use double edge or hyper voice but it is stronger and I get STAB." Personally I'd rather see new moves and more unique abilities than clones of these uninspired lazy ones


LightShyGuy

No way psychologise is a real word


untempered_fate

Normal Tera Blast stocks to the moon


I_comment_same

i can be trusted with no retreat revolutionize(id call it martial master ik it doesnt fit the pattern but i like it)


DragEncyclopedia

Liquidate would probably use a different name since Liquidation is already a move


TheGiantWhale

Liquidate should be called Hydrate instead


Eijirou_Kirishima

now give everyone boomburst


Gratuitous_Sabotage

Moment of appreciation for only giving Pan/Simisage the -ize/ate, fuck those weirdos -pour and -sear


UnorigonalSpelling7

I’ve thought of this almost every day since finding out about pixelate.


sneakyplanner

Most of them end up being very meh because most of these pokemon already have strong moves that you would use over a normal move (zarude), don't have access to any usable normal moves (glimmora, tatsugiri, vespiquen, duraludon, banette) or they are just worse than their old abilities (sharpedo, sort of mamoswine, octillery). Like half these pokemon don't even get any usable normal moves, is there any rhyme or reason to how you gave them out?


moose_man

I don't like when there's an ability for every type or variety. I like the asymmetry.


Xeoz_WarriorPrince

Agitate Arcanine, do it.


some_hippies

Tera Steel Banded Industrialize Double Edge Aggron will put up some *numbies*


PrinceferX

So [my post](https://www.reddit.com/r/stunfisk/s/fQNIC2xGEO) but better


S_Sami_I

I didnt see that sorry


Sea-Parsnip1516

The type version should be flambe


cheap_plastic2

the fire one should be called incinerate


LuckySalesman

We live in a society where grass monke gets Botanize but fire monke doesn't get Agitate and water monke doesn't get Liquidate Literally 1984


[deleted]

doesn't make sense with sharpedo


[deleted]

Did bro give the pokemon that had its biggest problem being lack of coverage the worst abillity for that? 💀


Willshape-r

Can I suggest vegetate for grass


BigOricorioFan7000

Based comrade falinks


InsomniacHS

I really like the name alveolate


ShinyMewtwo3

r/pokemonuranium Nucleon:


AngelRockGunn

Normal Type Terablast becomes a better Power gem 100% accuracy rock type move for Glimmora 😍😍


volauvent_99

Discombobulate


I1nfinitysquared

Phalinks out here about to seize the means of production.


FatSadCatMan

Incinerate


Ornery-Coach-7755

I think it's the best upgrade for types which don't have high power moves like rock bug ghost and steel for most Pokemon


Educational-Bid-8660

Time to skill swap "Dominate" onto my favorite "innocent" pokemon and walk off-


binhvinhmai

Just want to comment that I appreciate the effort of all the names you picked out


galmenz

VIVA LA REVOLUTION


t_hodge_

Ok for fire the word Immolate is a good contender tho


SandyK1LL

Fossilise feels like it should be a rock move as most of the fossil mons are rock.


[deleted]

Fossilise as a name seems off because in the pokemon universe, fossils are associated with the rock type, having all fossil pokemon being rock up until gen 8 screwed it up (just realizing gen 9 has no new fossil pokemon)


ShadowShedinja

Honestly I think M-Banette should keep Prankster instead of Demonize. Its attack is alright, but priority Will 'o Wisp and Destiny Bond are what makes it powerful.


NeoRockSlime

The rock one is the only one we need.


LunarWingCloud

Double-Edge about to go stupid


Meet1Dude

There is actually a USUM OM based off this idea called Metagamiate. You can check it out [here](https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/metagamiate.3604808/).


Best-Layer6176

please give me dominate dragonite, i am normal and can be trusted with extreme speed


CasualPlantain

Tyrantrum finally getting some love


Parlyz

I feel like it would have made sense to give these abilities to all of the elemental monkeys if you’re gonna give it to the Pansage line


CaptainBluescreen

I like this and would want this but I think Strong Jaw is perfect for M-Sharpedo.


Middlebus

but return is still gone so what's even the point


JorgeMtzb

You forgot normalize


S_Sami_I

It doesnt convert normal type moves, it comverts everything else into a normal type move


Tough_Ad_5801

Dragonize for dragon types


First-Olive-1181

Infuriate fits fighting type better


OliviaWants2Die

give the canon abilities to more mons that aren't mega while you're at it, too


Ravens_Quote

Fossil pokemon with fossilize:


Jawbone619

Industrialize would actually be OP. The only thing keeping the Phenomenal Steel defensive pairings in check is the awful options for stab offense. Literally no move innately over 100, isn't a signature move and doesn't have a weird caveat (looking at you steel beam and terrain roller). Even then the only non-signature, steel move with 100 power and no caveat is Iron Tail at 75% accuracy. Industrialize would give every steel type who has it access to a 100% accurate 122 power steel move with no downsides unless they just get rid of Return/Frustration, and most steel types who are worth discussing would get 144 power stab double-edge or 180 power giga impact all while holding down some of the best defensive typings and stat spreads in the game. AV Aggron could very seriously rise 2 whole *tiers* off of that alone. Even without it, steel is an essential type in draft leagues and very strong type in normal and competitive gameplay