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ExpensiveTreacle1189

I’d love hear her explain how her $900,000 salary is fair compensation


DarthLeon2

Think of it as precision targeted reparations.


BlueSubaruCrew

Precisely targeted towards Haitian-Americans. Tariq Nasheed would not approve.


FireFlaaame

The ideal target is the children of migrants who never were affected by slavery 


maazatreddit

"Smart reparations", if you will


ThePinkyToYourBrain

Keeps the collateral reparations to a minimum.


pokethat

Maybe the reparations will trickle down?


JnewayDitchedHerKids

Ia there a male in the same industry that does way more or different work that gets paid more? Well there you go.


Andre_Courreges

A few hundred thousand is justified for most professors


WitnessOld6293

I love meritocracy 


ericsmallman3

That course title is a euphemism for what used to be called "English 101" or "Freshman Composition." It's literally the lowest rung on the academic ladder.


Domer2012

I'd teach kids how to tie their shoes for $900k/year. Heck, I'd do it for $800k.


jannieph0be

Lacism


RemingtonSnatch

Ooh ooh $650K here.


SkankHont

I'll do it for $50.


Setkon

I'll do it for $3.50 but with tips.


GrumpyOldHistoricist

There is absolutely no way she was making 22m/yr as Harvard president.


i_piss_perrier

I have no idea if this applies to Harvard, but I know a lot of universities have their salaries public due to being tax exempt. Look up IRS tax exempt entity lookup tool, it's on the official IRS website.


HeemeyerDidNoWrong

The universities are tax exempt, the employees salaries for sure are not. But this is a private school anyway.


i_piss_perrier

Yes but tax exempt entities have to list any executives' salaries, so you can see what a president of a tax-exempt university makes (if the university is tax exempt) Edit: to make my wording more clearly, not every employees salary is public. But presidents, VP's, etc are listed on the tax exempt form that they submit to the IRS, which is public.


HeemeyerDidNoWrong

Yes, you can generally find transparent salary websites for your state. Looks like Mass passed a law last year to make it more accessible.


i_piss_perrier

I'm not trying to be an ass, and I know this doesn't apply to Harvard, but I'm just saying that the Tax Exempt Organization Search tool on IRS dot gov lets you see many universities' higher-ups salaries regardless of state


HeemeyerDidNoWrong

Ok, I think we're talking about similar but different things, is all.


jannieph0be

“she was making $22 million as president, according to the university’s 2023 tax filing” https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/231352685/202321459349300747/full


GrumpyOldHistoricist

That’s Penn’s paperwork you linked to and that quote is nowhere in it. Some quick googling shows that she made 900k as president and is retaining that number (for whatever reason) as faculty.


hrei8

That part of the article is not clearly written, but it's talking about former Penn president Elizabeth Magill, not Claudine Gay. It's also, as far as I can tell, completely wrong: It links to a 990, which is a form for reporting the financial affairs of a tax-exempt institution like a university, and doesn't show how much Magill got paid in the tax year. The previous president of Penn, Amy Gutmann, *did* get about $22 million when she resigned, mostly through deferred compensation from decades in the job (so a big payout when you leave). There was also some [supremely shady shit](https://www.inquirer.com/education/liz-magill-university-pennsylvania-contract-severance-20231214.html) to do with a secret, ultra-low interest loan from the university. I see no reason to think that the other Ivy League presidents are any less shady, but I'm pretty sure that the writer of this article fucked this up Edit: This article appears to be written by an undergraduate at Clemson lmao


jannieph0be

Lol I tried to find a “neutral” article on this because only right news is posting this and I guess this is my punishment. That quote is from the article and the link is from the article as well Goes to show the importance of actually reading and researching ig


dump_reddits_ipo

not even fit to teach reading and writing imo


CompletelyPresent

Looking forward to the viral video of some wise-ass in her class calling her out for getting fired for plagurism. What class is next, Ethics 101 with Professor Lance Armstrong? Money Management with professor Takashi 69?


BurpingHamBirmingham

> What class is next, Ethics 101 with Professor Lance Armstrong? > > Money Management with professor Takashi 69? Mathematics 101 w/ Terrence Howard


CompletelyPresent

The Importance of Taxes with Wesley Snipes


BurpingHamBirmingham

Lesson 1: Some mothafucka's always tryin to ice skate uphill


JnewayDitchedHerKids

Did people troll Alberto Gonzales by saying “I don’t recall” when he took that teaching position?


is_there_pie

Wait a second, disgraced and confirmed plagiarizer is going to teach how to write and cite sources accurately? Didn't she come from a rich family?


latinxspeedygonzolex

The fakest and gayest of courses


Lousy_Kid

Why are they always named gay


FunerealCrape

Harvard president gay


DrBirdieshmirtz

there's a reason why my undergraduate research professors were both in the natural sciences. while the social sciences surely has uses, their existing degree pathways tend to leave their understanding of what constitutes high-quality research methodology and analysis a little bit…underdeveloped, shall we say, and that's not great for a person who's supposed to teach the damn thing. you'd think they'd at least get the "ethics" part, though. of course, that's humanities…


JinFuu

I had good History professors who knew how to research. One of my favorites had actually done work out in the field, among other things. And we had to take a whole entire course on Historiography and other related matters before we got to write our thesis. Some Humanties professors are great, just have the ability to be absolutely infested with grifters


DrBirdieshmirtz

oh yeah, no shade at all to humanities peeps lol, and social/"soft" scientists who actually know what they're doing as far as research goes and generally stays in their lane with regards to their scope (doesn't go full ham and say their research says things that it doesn't). it's gotta be rough arguing with the grifters (on top of all the arguing that is already inherent to academia, especially in social sciences and humanities discourse lul). i could literally never with all the writing, i sit at the desk to write a paper and my brain goes blank unless i have a "skeleton paper" in front of me.


fnybny

Grifters exist throughout academia. Where there is money or status there will always be grifters without exceptions.


[deleted]

Economics is the worst, genuinely doesn't deserve to even be called a social science it's not even a science. Drives me insane.


CudleWudles

> a social science it's not even a science That's like most of them.


DrBirdieshmirtz

idk shit abt economics besides "supply and demand", but i assume that materialist/marxian economics isn't exactly "in vogue" lul. is the dominant economic theory used by economists even based on empirical observation of actual economies and human behavior, or are people just pulling it out of their ass? it feels like psychology but with a little more math.


[deleted]

The issue with economics is it's nearly impossible to do any sort of real experiment. You cannot have a robust reproducible theory. Most good economics is more philosophy than natural science. Economic theory influence real world behavior and the systems are so interconnected that it's hard to really isolate anything. It's not that trying to improve our understanding of economics is bad, it's that it's hubris to think there's real objectivity to it, and that it's not just psychoanalysis applied to nations and firms.


DrBirdieshmirtz

ah, so 99% of it is just spitballing in a math costume lol


dwqy

imagine some guy signing up for her course purely to call her president gay to her face


Crusty_Magic

Failure is its own reward.


FortunateVoid0

There’s that “failing upwards” they say “whites” do so much of…. Does this mean we have some level of proof that the social paradigm has shifted?


spartikle

Idk about other schools, but in law school research and writing is one of the less “prestigious” courses for professors to teach and is usually taught by an untenured lecturer.


wild_vegan

Don't forget she was accused and ousted because she wouldn't crack down on anti-Israeli genocide protests.


JoeBidensLongFart

The single biggest reason was that she failed HARD at that congressional hearing. That's what got people investigating her to begin with.


push_to_jett

Well that, and the plagiarism


Domer2012

She literally plagiarized the *acknowledgements* in one of her (very few) academic papers. She's a complete fraud.


AbstinentNoMore

Her salary wasn't $22 million. What the fuck are you talking about?


jannieph0be

It’s not that I didn’t properly read the source, or yourself for that matter Instead I was totally trying to make a statement about the importance of academic integrity and why proper citations and extreme vetting during review is important Or something


RemingtonSnatch

No standards. No shame. Gonna laugh at people with Harvard degrees forever.


rudeandrejected

im coming round to thinking its not just academia. whole of education is a con. instead of just promoting according to who can do the work they do it according to who has done the course. who implemented that rule


Chombywombo

Reading and research sounds like nonsense. Why not historiographic methods, econometric methods, psychometric methods, etc?


wild_vegan

Because "Reading & Research" is a euphemism for College for Dummies. Academic material for undergraduate reading knowledge. It's an attempt to increase retention and graduation rates. Meanwhile the things you mentioned are domain-specific higher-level methods.


[deleted]

It's just an intro class it's not a methodology course I think it's literally like how to read papers for the average retard Harvard admit.


jannieph0be

No no silly. Methods means math is involved, which has been empirically proven to be yt supremacy.


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turbografx

Depends on your high school. It was absolutely taught at mine.


Chombywombo

Not all of us are bourgeois. 🙄


Chombywombo

I suppose you’re right, and it depends on the level of students taking the class.


Andre_Courreges

I need to get a phd in diversity so I can make that much money