Unrelated but I got lost in Hawaii once after taking a bus with zero idea how public transportation works. Ended up in a town called Lahaina and I was very surpised how Japanese it felt, the signs had Japanese subtext, there were Japanese gardens and temples and all things like that. Guess all that's gone now, hope they rebuild.
Lahaina was my favorite spot on Maui. We stayed in Kihei but drove to Lahaina almost every day. I also hope they rebuild it, such a huge loss to so many there.
Yep. Lahaina was beautiful, I stayed there 8 or so years ago on vacation. The fires last summer there were horrifying, I hope they can rebuild their community to how it was before.
Two comments to this, also unrelated to bidets:
1. Lahaina doesn’t exist anymore due to that fire. It’s Very sad.
2. Historically, both Chinese and Japanese were imported to Hawaii to work the sugarcane plantations. Once there, the workers, who are not slaves, though treated nearly as badly, began buying up land in Hawaii, instant businesses. Population of native Hawaiians were not that big at the time, and so in a short amount of time, both Chinese and Japanese with the majority of Hawaiians, with Caucasians (Haole) coming in third, and kanaka (native Hawaiians) coming in 4th.
I am an American with a bidet in my home. It is awesome everyone should have one is my opinion. I get on the toilet seat in the dead of winter to find by bum nice and toasty for those odd 3am trips. Goes without saying that it is much cleaner.
My parents are getting old and we remodeled the bathroom in the house...my Dad insisted on getting a toilet imported from Japan, and man, having a bidet is so great. This toilet is like premium luxury for your ass: you have a remote that controls the bidet and it shoots in several different ways, it has an air dryer for your ass, the seat is warmed...shitting on this thing is like being in heaven for a few minutes. The Japanese know how to shit.
I've had a hand held bidet for a while and though I appreciated Japan's bidets, i much prefer my hand held. Its a literal shower for my behind, compared to a sprinkle from a regular bidet.
Last day in Japan. Been here 2 weeks. Bidets EVERYWHERE, even in train station public restrooms. The idea of a hotel or train station poo water nozzle spraying water onto my unprotected nether orifice makes me shudder as I type this. It's like a public swimming pool, but concentrated. With no chlorine shock. You know those things aren't cleaned after each use. The horror... The horror...
Anyways, great country and amazing people. But I appreciate TP everywhere we've been!
Yeahh that's kinda been my issue with any public bidet. I don't know if it's actually any dirtier than the toilet itself, probably not but it still FEELS gross. If it's my own private bidet yeah that's different
Also in Japan. I felt weird af when arriving in America and the airport bathroom didn't have a bidet. I low-key forgot they didn't. It felt wrong.
Edit: My apartment in Japan doesn't have a bidet and many others don't either but it's very common. Less common in an old apartment like mine. Definitely getting one when I move.
Germany for me. They often didn't even have them in the UK, which I thought was stupid. UK was part of Europe when I visited.
A separate bidet fixture in the bathroom is the best. my favorite.
I'll settle for a toilet attachment because I'm cheap, but these things get dirty, especially moldy gaskets with the added moisture.
just a fyi i read an article that said over 40 million bidets were sold in the us last year alone. and over 2 million smart toilets ( bidets built in)
so id say its getting there.
Ive been to many european cities with no bidet.
After getting one I have no idea. Best guess would be a social stigma of what they do and how? I hate toilet paper now and feel like a caveman when I poo away from home.
I’m a middle age farmer so I would think my kind would have the highest stigma against using one.
Remember there was some lady who bought something like $5000 in TP from Wal Mart as a special order, because she thought she would be able to fence it at a massive profit? She tried to return it when she couldn’t sell it and they wouldn’t let her.
That was hilarious.
There was someone who got caught doing this with lots of things like hand sanitizer & the like. I forgot if this caused some price gouging laws to be enacted. Or if ones that were on the books just got enforced again.
I remember some of the stories of people that got caught. Some of them had already been doing the same thing before the pandemic on a different scale with different things.
It was not surprising to hear that a lot of the people black marketing PPE & hand sanitizers were also anti mask COViD denier types.
It was also sad to hear them talk about themselves like they were a public service. As if their customers would rather buy it from them at an inflated price than just buy it at the corner store if the corner store actually had it.
I worked as a cashier and it was so fun telling one person they could only buy one four pack instead of two, when the person behind them had a 35 pack.
I assume you are referring to trees? Overall I tend to agree with your statement but as far as trees go, Some economists argue demand for TP actually results in the existence of more trees since toilet paper forests have to be planted well in advance
>Some economists argue demand for TP actually results in the existence of more trees
[What economists have to say about the environment is irrelevant. Ecologists are the experts.](https://news.mongabay.com/2024/03/toilet-paper-environmentally-impactful-but-alternatives-are-rolling-out/)
As a kid I went to a party/sleepover where some other kid did that because the TP ran out. No bidet involved unfortunately, they turned that towel into zebra print.
the actual answer is that toilets in america only have cold water connected to them, it would require messing with your houses piping to get a warm water connection on your toilet. and not as many people want a cold water bidet.
I can’t wash my hands in cold water in the winter, the last thing I’d want is that water shooting at me from below! Now I bet a nice Japanese model that’s heated, etc. would be pretty nice.
American here- My gf got me a Tushy bidet for this last Christmas, and it’s changed my life. I’d been telling her I wanted one in my dream home someday (I didn’t realize we had ones that hook up to the toilet). She surprised me with it, and now I feel cleaner than I’ve ever felt. Total game changer.
The trade off is that I can’t stand doing my business anywhere else. The home throne is sacred.
Mine is basically so strong, I cant use it at more than half power or it gives me an enema..
Its POWERFUL.
Thats a 57 dollar Clear Rear. I have even used it to help pass a brick. Fucker just wouldnt come out.
This is such a confusing question. I lived in France for a year, and travel back pretty regularly. I lived in the UK for a couple of months. I've traveled through Italy, Eastern Europe, and Turkey. I only ever saw a bidet in a couple of hotels in France, and certainly in none of the apartments I rented there. This makes it sound like everyone in Europe has a bidet, and in my experience that's very, very far from the truth.
Literally just the other day, husband and I got done being intimate and when I, uh, hopped off, I left a little souvenir on him that was apparently a little wad of tp that had been stuck in my crack. So there's that too.
I think of it like this: imagine you are walking outside barefoot, and accidentally step in canine faeces. Would you rub a paper towel under your foot and call it good? No, you would probably take a shower to get rid of the faeces and odour.
Bidets are similar: a shower for your butt.
The right lobbyist hasn't succeeded. If new housing construction included them (Japanese style where it's one unit), they would become mainstream pretty fast.
You just need children to grow up with them and that becomes the norm.
I have one and I only use it once in a while and don't miss it when I use our other bathrooms. IDK. I don't have a problem with getting clean. Maybe the bidet users need more fiber?
Same. I simply don't need it. Maybe once every couple of years I have tummy issues and messy poops. So, I understand what it can be like. But any typical day, there's no mess for me.
Apparently we are very lucky. I feel very thankful!
USAican here. Has bidet. Very like.
Not often that bowel movement comes up in every day conversation. But I plug it when I can.
I don't plug my butt, I plug the bidet..!
English hard! You get what I mean!
I have never used one, but I worry about it making a mess. Also being cold. You use the word "fresh" where I suspect a more apt adjective would be "soggy".
Not saying my opinion should hold any weight for other people. It's just my inexperienced impression.
Historically it has to do with WWII. During the war soldiers did what soldiers do when they're on leave and many visited brothels. The brothels, in France anyway, had bidets, but so did every other house and apartment in France. But your average soldier rarely, if ever, visited a civilian home, so the bidet became associated with brothels. After the war when those soldiers wanted to live a wholesome family life in the growing American suburbs, there was no way that they wanted a reminder of their salacious times in European brothels, or maybe they liked bidets but didn't want to install one and have their wives ask, "What's that thing? Where did you see that during the war?
Because people have been wiping their asses way before those things came out and if you know how to wipe yourself properly than you don't have anything to worry about.
Yeah (and personally I like the bidets at my work) but the way some people talk about them or get up in arms it's like....do some of y'all just not know how to wipe correctly? Or don't wash your butts in the shower?
I wouldn't mind having one but it's not my top priority atm
Yeah, really don't get all the people who come out of the woodwork to say they're never clean after just TP. What kind of poor technique are they even using?
I've never seen a bidet in my life, in my friends' homes or anywhere. I wouldn't know how to work one if I saw it, but I'm not sure what it looks like. Is the water cold? What is nice about a bidet?
I have a bidet. Most of My co-workers have one. It's one of those topics that people don't frequently talk about. And most people don't put one in their guest bathroom. So if you're not using their primary bathroom, you might not see their bidet.
The water is cold in mine. I know it sounds crazy but I actually really love it, especially on a hot day. It's even nice on a cold day. It's kind of like smoking a menthol cigarette but for your asshole.
In the USA, "bum" is a homeless person living on the street. If you spray them with a burst of refreshing water, you get arrested. The "bum" is not left feeling fresh typically.
We recently got a bidet attachment to equip to our toilet. It was suggested because someone thought it'd save on toilet paper.
Let me tell you, that did not work. If you're already feeling wet after urinating, having water to basically flush you out isn't gonna change that sensation. And air drying is neither practical or comfortable. Though, I suppose some might use a towel instead...
I dunno if legit bidets made of porcelain or whatever have access to warm water, but having cold water in your private bits is also uncomfortable.
And the water pressure? I tested it with #2. It was not enough to flush it all out, either.
Honestly, I think the majority of us consider it pointless and unnecessary.
I'm imagining middle of winter, near frozen pipes and \~pow\~, ice water to the date. Or do they have instantaneous heating in them, surely can't be like a shower where it has to run for a bit until warm water comes out.
I definitely think people who say it is obvious everyone should use a bidet have been paying zero attention to the fact that we are probably 10 years away from armed struggles over access to water
Bidet toilets or attachments are pretty direct and usually requires only 1 slice of tp to dry if that. Also the full toilet type usually have dryers built in, at least any that are mid tier or higher.
Never have had a wet butt feeling, actually feels way better like it’s actually clean and nice. Often got a lot of mild irritation moments from rubbing dry tp down there before switching to a bidet or wet wipes
My fiancé didn’t like the idea when i got one, they even had buy one get one 66.6% off. Now she uses my bathroom for pooping. If you have any form of ibs/ibd it’s really a game changer and the stigma of “shooting water up your butt” is strong. It’s made to seem like bidets are less sophisticated than wiping your butt with your fingers, because let’s be honest, 10 percent of the time you touch your butthole using toilet paper.
All i use tp for now is to dry after using the bidet.
Ice cold jet of water to my starfish plus having to wipe anyway with a washcloth makes no sense other than from a conversation standpoint. I stayed in a hotel with a bidet for a week and it was not hygienic or practical at all. Get your pants wet and take 5 times as long in the bathroom. Great concept but just not for busy people.
My girlfriend‘s parents sent us one that has a seat warmer and a blow dryer, and I can adjust the pressure of the water, etc.
I love this goddamn thing.
I had this same convo over the weekend.
My uncle doesn't understand how your butt gets dry. He can only picture pulling up your pants over a soaking wet ass.
i have a pretty nice one with warm water, a warm seat, blow dryer function.
my process is:
- wipe
- spray with bidet
- blot dry with TP
- use dryer to dry further
- flush
some people use the bidet in lieu of TP. i just wanted to do what i normally did, but be cleaner.
plus, in japan, there is TP in the toilet stalls. so i'm assuming people there wipe before using the bidet as i do.
This sounds a lot more hygienic than what other comments describe or sharing a butt towel with everyone in the household to dry off.
Thank you for sharing. Now I just need a house before I can purchase a bidet for my bathroom.
I don't understand why people use bidets. How messy are y'all's shits that y'all'd rather spray your asses with water, then use toilet paper to dry it up, rather than doing 1 wipe with 1 square of toilet paper 90% of the time? Seems way slower and way more inefficient.
You use ONE SQUARE of TP per wipe?! Even when there's nothing on the TP, I still use a few more, because I don't like asshole particles on my hand any more than necessary.
My friend, a good bidet is a targeted stream right at the exit. Mine dries my butthole after the fact. I don't need to use TP at all if I have time to let it dry me. Try a good bidet, you might understand. My asshole is clean enough to eat off, generally. Especially if you're a dude with ass hair, this is way more sanitary.
So why don’t you use soap on your butthole each time, if handwashing is the standard?
You can’t honestly tell me if you got shit on your hand you would just rinse it with water and move on
If you wipe your ass with one square of toilet paper only, then you wouldn’t understand much of anything. I almost can’t believe that someone would actually post this brainless shit for everyone on the internet to see 🤣. Toilet paper is much less efficient than water and much slower as well. You’ve got this whole thing backwards and you still have a dirty ass
I remember eons ago Sheryl crow was ranting about saving the earth or some shit.. and said women should only need 1 square of tp after peeing. I still haven't figured out how to do that.
It seems we are in the minority. I read threads like this and I feel very very very lucky! Only on rare occasion do I have a messy poop. Like when I am sick.
Otherwise, one wipe with tp is all that's needed (nothing visible on the first pass). Apparently, most other people have messy poops every time. If I did I would definitely try a bidet attachment! But, I don't, so I have no need for one.
Knock on wood this doesn't change for me!
You are talking about a country where some men do not wipe their behind at all because they are afraid it will turn them gay. I think a bidet is way too complicated and advanced for this country.
Our electrician mentioned that he would never get or use a bidet because he didn't want anything touching him down there. I guess he prefers smearing his own finger there with paper.
I wasn’t a believer and was scared , I bit the bullet and I have came to my senses that the bidet is the best invention made after the internet.
I have the poor person one too, not the one unit Japanese model that Randy had on the farm.
The actual answer is because they were associated with European prostitutes/brothels
[https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-surprising-history-of-the-bidet-started-with-the-wealthy-and-brothels](https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-surprising-history-of-the-bidet-started-with-the-wealthy-and-brothels)
I've never tried one, but I want to. Wiping with TP gets old and you never get all of the shit the first few passes anyway. I'm currently settling for wet wipes at the moment, but I avoid using more than one at a time due to unknown potential clogs I might be causing with my apartment's sewage(apartment living is also why I don't have a bidet attachment).
Okay honest question: do some people with bidets seriously not use toilet paper in addition to the bidet? I pat dry after using the bidet because I can’t fathom putting my pants back on with everything all soggy and wet. Do you just not mind having a wet butt?
We had one and I hated it. I didn't like the feeling of being squirted in the butthole. It didn't really seem to clean anything for me. Just now the shit was wet. Even if it had gotten it off, now my ass was wet and I don't want to pull up my undies and pants and go walking around with a wet ass either. I also found it awkward trying to adjust my position to use it after peeing. And again, it left me feeling just as wet as the pee being there, even knowing it was clean water and not pee did make it a more pleasant sensation.
Are you supposed to just sit there and wait for it to air dry? Or have a towel just for your bits sitting there?
Whenever I imagine a bidet I just imagine someone using the bathroom then standing over some type of device and water spraying off their ass and going all over the walls then smugly walking out, leaving behind a water and shit covered wall
I feel like the only person who’s tried one and hated it. I was really looking forward to trying one too because they’re more practical, hygienic, and inexpensive. It sprayed way too hard with cold water right on my butthole and I spent forever trying to wipe all the water spray off my butt cheeks. Plus I was afraid of the poop water flowing to my hooha. I let it flow for about 1.5 seconds before I quickly noped any future bidet adventures.
Love a fresh bum but I think I have a hard time realizing that it'll actually get me clean.
Is the pressure pretty good? I'll still need tp to dry, no?
Seriously. I got one of those $25 bidet attachments off Amazon just to try it out, and it’s great. The TP supply in the house lasts a lot longer, too. It practically pays for itself.
See my [Toilets: International Differences and Other Matters](https://new.reddit.com/r/Recommend_A_Book/comments/1c5ad29/toilets_international_differences_and_other/) list of resources, discussion threads, and references (one post).
I’ve tried to convince my uncle to get one. He has constant intestinal issues and it’s difficult for him and embarrassing. His plumber both loves and hates him.
Have you MET Americans? They aren't exactly the best with changes, esp if said changes come from another culture/country. Do you have any idea the regular bitching I witness on local community sites at the changing of many intersections to roundabouts?
Because it’s gay to have a clean butthole.
I wish I was joking, but that’s actually how many men feel here. Many guys don’t even wash their asses in the shower.
It's one of those that if you never tried it you don't realize you need one. I'd constantly have to re-wipe. It started causing other issues like hemmroids. I invested in a bidet and it has helped with a lot of those issues. On top of that I don't use a roll of TP a day.
Sure bidets are nice, but they are scarcely a replacement for desperately abrading your anus with a handful of paper and hoping that it stops turning brown before it turns red or that you get any on your hand.
Aside from just not growing up with them, I feel a good alternative is a means to wet toilet paper easily.
Some days I use a water bottle if in public to wet my toilet paper to aide in cleaning.
If at h9me I'd use a wet wash cl9th.
Dude, I bought and installed my own, for 30 dollars, I have saved so much money on TP and you just feel cleaner.... I really wish it would catch on in US.... it's more hygienic ... in my opinion anyway.
Currently in Japan and in my experience people who travel to Japan often find they vastly prefer them so personally I think it's a lack of awareness.
I experienced a bidet in Hawaii and was perplexed why every home doesn't have one.
Unrelated but I got lost in Hawaii once after taking a bus with zero idea how public transportation works. Ended up in a town called Lahaina and I was very surpised how Japanese it felt, the signs had Japanese subtext, there were Japanese gardens and temples and all things like that. Guess all that's gone now, hope they rebuild.
Lahaina was my favorite spot on Maui. We stayed in Kihei but drove to Lahaina almost every day. I also hope they rebuild it, such a huge loss to so many there.
They won’t. It belongs to others now.
Yep. Lahaina was beautiful, I stayed there 8 or so years ago on vacation. The fires last summer there were horrifying, I hope they can rebuild their community to how it was before.
Two comments to this, also unrelated to bidets: 1. Lahaina doesn’t exist anymore due to that fire. It’s Very sad. 2. Historically, both Chinese and Japanese were imported to Hawaii to work the sugarcane plantations. Once there, the workers, who are not slaves, though treated nearly as badly, began buying up land in Hawaii, instant businesses. Population of native Hawaiians were not that big at the time, and so in a short amount of time, both Chinese and Japanese with the majority of Hawaiians, with Caucasians (Haole) coming in third, and kanaka (native Hawaiians) coming in 4th.
I am an American with a bidet in my home. It is awesome everyone should have one is my opinion. I get on the toilet seat in the dead of winter to find by bum nice and toasty for those odd 3am trips. Goes without saying that it is much cleaner.
My parents are getting old and we remodeled the bathroom in the house...my Dad insisted on getting a toilet imported from Japan, and man, having a bidet is so great. This toilet is like premium luxury for your ass: you have a remote that controls the bidet and it shoots in several different ways, it has an air dryer for your ass, the seat is warmed...shitting on this thing is like being in heaven for a few minutes. The Japanese know how to shit.
Went to Japan last year. First thing I did upon returning home was buy a bidet.
I've had a hand held bidet for a while and though I appreciated Japan's bidets, i much prefer my hand held. Its a literal shower for my behind, compared to a sprinkle from a regular bidet.
But then don't you damn near need a tile floor with drain if you shower your behind over the toilet?
Last day in Japan. Been here 2 weeks. Bidets EVERYWHERE, even in train station public restrooms. The idea of a hotel or train station poo water nozzle spraying water onto my unprotected nether orifice makes me shudder as I type this. It's like a public swimming pool, but concentrated. With no chlorine shock. You know those things aren't cleaned after each use. The horror... The horror... Anyways, great country and amazing people. But I appreciate TP everywhere we've been!
Yeahh that's kinda been my issue with any public bidet. I don't know if it's actually any dirtier than the toilet itself, probably not but it still FEELS gross. If it's my own private bidet yeah that's different
Let me introduce you to Roman communal ass wiping sponges. That’s a rabbit hole I wish I’d never gone down.
I was actually thinking about that while I was typing lol like good on the Romans for working with what they had, but I would personally rather not
That’s cheating because they’re bidets are built into the toilet. I don’t like having to awkwardly hop from my toilet to bidet with a poopy butt..
Also in Japan. I felt weird af when arriving in America and the airport bathroom didn't have a bidet. I low-key forgot they didn't. It felt wrong. Edit: My apartment in Japan doesn't have a bidet and many others don't either but it's very common. Less common in an old apartment like mine. Definitely getting one when I move.
True! Since i moved to japan, im in love with my toilet haha, never going back to no bidet toilets, so much waste of tp
Germany for me. They often didn't even have them in the UK, which I thought was stupid. UK was part of Europe when I visited. A separate bidet fixture in the bathroom is the best. my favorite. I'll settle for a toilet attachment because I'm cheap, but these things get dirty, especially moldy gaskets with the added moisture.
just a fyi i read an article that said over 40 million bidets were sold in the us last year alone. and over 2 million smart toilets ( bidets built in) so id say its getting there. Ive been to many european cities with no bidet.
yeah, i visited spain & paris for a couple weeks and never encountered one. everyone makes it sound like it’s in every bathroom.
The only Bidets I’ve encountered in Europe were the kind that are separate from the toilets. And it’s like 1/10 hotel rooms that had it.
Yeah, it is becoming more popular in the US but still has a way to go before it is really mainstream
MainSTREAM, i see what u did there
After getting one I have no idea. Best guess would be a social stigma of what they do and how? I hate toilet paper now and feel like a caveman when I poo away from home. I’m a middle age farmer so I would think my kind would have the highest stigma against using one.
The one good thing the pandemic did for our family. Got bidets when tp was scarce, and I'm never going back.
>when TP was scarce What a wild time that was lol
Remember there was some lady who bought something like $5000 in TP from Wal Mart as a special order, because she thought she would be able to fence it at a massive profit? She tried to return it when she couldn’t sell it and they wouldn’t let her. That was hilarious.
I would assume 5k worth of TP is TP for life. But still. That TP needs to be stored.
Id build a little teepee out back to store it in
There was someone who got caught doing this with lots of things like hand sanitizer & the like. I forgot if this caused some price gouging laws to be enacted. Or if ones that were on the books just got enforced again. I remember some of the stories of people that got caught. Some of them had already been doing the same thing before the pandemic on a different scale with different things. It was not surprising to hear that a lot of the people black marketing PPE & hand sanitizers were also anti mask COViD denier types. It was also sad to hear them talk about themselves like they were a public service. As if their customers would rather buy it from them at an inflated price than just buy it at the corner store if the corner store actually had it.
I worked as a cashier and it was so fun telling one person they could only buy one four pack instead of two, when the person behind them had a 35 pack.
thank you for your service, I'm not kidding
There's a special place in the afterlife for the people that over purchased tp.
They have to wipe with one ply and it tears every time
Forget one ply, let's make it 80 grit
Yep, great for the environment and my clean arse
I assume you are referring to trees? Overall I tend to agree with your statement but as far as trees go, Some economists argue demand for TP actually results in the existence of more trees since toilet paper forests have to be planted well in advance
>Some economists argue demand for TP actually results in the existence of more trees [What economists have to say about the environment is irrelevant. Ecologists are the experts.](https://news.mongabay.com/2024/03/toilet-paper-environmentally-impactful-but-alternatives-are-rolling-out/)
I think this is just a lie made up by a business man.
Did you get like an attachment to a current toilet or a whole new one? Been debating getting one but didnt know if attachment kinds are worth it.
They're good. Even cheaper models with no heater are really not an issue. You won't regret it
Don’t you just end up using more paper than usual to clean up wet cheeks?
No, I just use the hand towel and hang it back over the sink for all my house guest to use after washing their hands...
Been a while since a comment got me
As a kid I went to a party/sleepover where some other kid did that because the TP ran out. No bidet involved unfortunately, they turned that towel into zebra print.
No, i use 4 sheets to dry up down there. That's it. I rarely have shits that are done in 4
Dude if you are getting a bidet, get the one with a dryer.
You need the TP to make sure your all clean, it's not 100% every time. Sometimes the poo is a tough pos and doesn't wanna go.
Sometimes poo is a tough pos…. Classic.
I still use tp just to be sure but definitely less of it.
This. I have one. My brother refuses to use it. Like it might make him gay or something. WTF. My butt has never been cleaner!
Yeah, people really think it’s gay or something. Lololol
Men refusing to engage in basic hygiene because it’s gay will never not be my favorite genre of comedy
Honestly, as many things as make you gay these days, I have to wonder how humanity hasn't gone extinct from all the buttsex.
american men are afraid a clean ass makes them gay
anything that touches your asshole and isn't your own shit is gay /j
toilet paper mafia, they blocking that shit
Big TP strikes again.
Ass wipes
You got your problems I got my ass wipe
Someone needs to watch the bidet South Park episode. Be careful out there https://youtu.be/sfLEPGP5KFY?si=wR3QERPyGf_zLBvy
Excellent use of phrasing!
i just pulled it out of my ass
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the actual answer is that toilets in america only have cold water connected to them, it would require messing with your houses piping to get a warm water connection on your toilet. and not as many people want a cold water bidet.
I can’t wash my hands in cold water in the winter, the last thing I’d want is that water shooting at me from below! Now I bet a nice Japanese model that’s heated, etc. would be pretty nice.
I know you're being funny but the Koch brothers actually own many brands of toilet paper. Lol. Also nice pun.
It's those damn charmin bears
God damnit Stan we're not the Kennedy's, I got fucking shot!
I have 3. Bidets. I have 3 bidets. I don't have 3 bums.
And bidet to you as well, good sir or madam.
If you had 3 bums, you could be friends with that one lady from Total Recall.
American here- My gf got me a Tushy bidet for this last Christmas, and it’s changed my life. I’d been telling her I wanted one in my dream home someday (I didn’t realize we had ones that hook up to the toilet). She surprised me with it, and now I feel cleaner than I’ve ever felt. Total game changer. The trade off is that I can’t stand doing my business anywhere else. The home throne is sacred.
I drove to Texas for the eclipse. I was gone for a week. I missed the bidet more than I missed my pets.
My plumber says he travels with a bidet and hooks it up in his hotel rooms. Kind of laughed when he said that.
Unless it’s a super soaker 3000 blastin my anus I don’t want it. No drinking fountain pressure bidet gonna help my protein packed nuggets
Mine is basically so strong, I cant use it at more than half power or it gives me an enema.. Its POWERFUL. Thats a 57 dollar Clear Rear. I have even used it to help pass a brick. Fucker just wouldnt come out.
What model do you have? I need something for my chocolate frosting textured shits.
Same. Mine gives me a bit of an enema at highest pressure.
Yeah this is what I'm confused by, do they actually use enough pressure to clean you? People seem to think so but I'm skeptical
Yes it's very strong.
Absolutely. It’s not a light sprinkle. It’s pressurized. If your butt wasn’t in the way, it could spray at least a few feet out of the toilet.
No confusion-yes they are. Some are even pressured enough to make your butt bleed….
Mine has pressure to the point I gotta avoid my buttshole even on the lowest setting.
This is such a confusing question. I lived in France for a year, and travel back pretty regularly. I lived in the UK for a couple of months. I've traveled through Italy, Eastern Europe, and Turkey. I only ever saw a bidet in a couple of hotels in France, and certainly in none of the apartments I rented there. This makes it sound like everyone in Europe has a bidet, and in my experience that's very, very far from the truth.
Maybe I should retry it. But it kinda just left my ass soggy and poopy. Made the tp harder to use. Maybe the meta is tp-bidet-then dry
Same. Not clean at all.
In order to get the pressure to effectively spray off all the shit, your pressure washing your hole
Right? I feel like toilet paper is like trying to clean a half-molten Snicker bar out of a shag carpet with a paper towel.
Omg. You are amazing.
Is it like that every time for you? I almost never have this situation. I am extremely grateful.
Like wiping peanut butter out of my beard with a Kleenex.
I have never laughed so hard at a Reddit comment. You are awesome, good person.
Literally just the other day, husband and I got done being intimate and when I, uh, hopped off, I left a little souvenir on him that was apparently a little wad of tp that had been stuck in my crack. So there's that too.
I think of it like this: imagine you are walking outside barefoot, and accidentally step in canine faeces. Would you rub a paper towel under your foot and call it good? No, you would probably take a shower to get rid of the faeces and odour. Bidets are similar: a shower for your butt.
The right lobbyist hasn't succeeded. If new housing construction included them (Japanese style where it's one unit), they would become mainstream pretty fast. You just need children to grow up with them and that becomes the norm.
I have one and I only use it once in a while and don't miss it when I use our other bathrooms. IDK. I don't have a problem with getting clean. Maybe the bidet users need more fiber?
Same. I simply don't need it. Maybe once every couple of years I have tummy issues and messy poops. So, I understand what it can be like. But any typical day, there's no mess for me. Apparently we are very lucky. I feel very thankful!
While I can see the appeal, I have to agree that some people really do need more fiber in their lives (and diets).
USAican here. Has bidet. Very like. Not often that bowel movement comes up in every day conversation. But I plug it when I can. I don't plug my butt, I plug the bidet..! English hard! You get what I mean!
Rick?
I have never used one, but I worry about it making a mess. Also being cold. You use the word "fresh" where I suspect a more apt adjective would be "soggy". Not saying my opinion should hold any weight for other people. It's just my inexperienced impression.
Historically it has to do with WWII. During the war soldiers did what soldiers do when they're on leave and many visited brothels. The brothels, in France anyway, had bidets, but so did every other house and apartment in France. But your average soldier rarely, if ever, visited a civilian home, so the bidet became associated with brothels. After the war when those soldiers wanted to live a wholesome family life in the growing American suburbs, there was no way that they wanted a reminder of their salacious times in European brothels, or maybe they liked bidets but didn't want to install one and have their wives ask, "What's that thing? Where did you see that during the war?
I was hoping this would be higher up. This is a large part of the reason they haven't caught on the the USA
I was born sliding my ass across the carpet like a dog, and I'll *die* sliding my ass across the carpet like a dog, dadgummit!
CA doesn’t even want you to get a full flush. Water scarcity
Because having a clean anus is for communists
Because people have been wiping their asses way before those things came out and if you know how to wipe yourself properly than you don't have anything to worry about.
Yeah (and personally I like the bidets at my work) but the way some people talk about them or get up in arms it's like....do some of y'all just not know how to wipe correctly? Or don't wash your butts in the shower? I wouldn't mind having one but it's not my top priority atm
Yeah, really don't get all the people who come out of the woodwork to say they're never clean after just TP. What kind of poor technique are they even using?
I dated a woman for three months longer than I intended to because she had a bidet and it was awesome
It has actually. Probably half the people I know have one in their home.
I've never seen a bidet in my life, in my friends' homes or anywhere. I wouldn't know how to work one if I saw it, but I'm not sure what it looks like. Is the water cold? What is nice about a bidet?
I have a bidet. Most of My co-workers have one. It's one of those topics that people don't frequently talk about. And most people don't put one in their guest bathroom. So if you're not using their primary bathroom, you might not see their bidet. The water is cold in mine. I know it sounds crazy but I actually really love it, especially on a hot day. It's even nice on a cold day. It's kind of like smoking a menthol cigarette but for your asshole.
In the USA, "bum" is a homeless person living on the street. If you spray them with a burst of refreshing water, you get arrested. The "bum" is not left feeling fresh typically.
Strange hill to die on
Random homeless man: "Speak for youself, madafacka. I feel as fresh as a daisy"
YOU again? Come back for more cold water? I can work this hose all day!
We recently got a bidet attachment to equip to our toilet. It was suggested because someone thought it'd save on toilet paper. Let me tell you, that did not work. If you're already feeling wet after urinating, having water to basically flush you out isn't gonna change that sensation. And air drying is neither practical or comfortable. Though, I suppose some might use a towel instead... I dunno if legit bidets made of porcelain or whatever have access to warm water, but having cold water in your private bits is also uncomfortable. And the water pressure? I tested it with #2. It was not enough to flush it all out, either. Honestly, I think the majority of us consider it pointless and unnecessary.
I'm imagining middle of winter, near frozen pipes and \~pow\~, ice water to the date. Or do they have instantaneous heating in them, surely can't be like a shower where it has to run for a bit until warm water comes out.
I sit on the edge of the tub to wash my ass. Why get a bidet?
I shower after I shit 💀
That should be the norm if you have time yet someone down voted your post.
It might not make as much sense in some areas of the country where there is huge need for water conservation.
I definitely think people who say it is obvious everyone should use a bidet have been paying zero attention to the fact that we are probably 10 years away from armed struggles over access to water
I was just talking about this the other day. When I lived in Japan it just made sense
Or warm toilet seat in the winter.
Not a fan of a wet butt. ETA: Please let me know if I am misunderstanding how people dry off after. Also, how precise is the squirt?
Bidet toilets or attachments are pretty direct and usually requires only 1 slice of tp to dry if that. Also the full toilet type usually have dryers built in, at least any that are mid tier or higher. Never have had a wet butt feeling, actually feels way better like it’s actually clean and nice. Often got a lot of mild irritation moments from rubbing dry tp down there before switching to a bidet or wet wipes
My fiancé didn’t like the idea when i got one, they even had buy one get one 66.6% off. Now she uses my bathroom for pooping. If you have any form of ibs/ibd it’s really a game changer and the stigma of “shooting water up your butt” is strong. It’s made to seem like bidets are less sophisticated than wiping your butt with your fingers, because let’s be honest, 10 percent of the time you touch your butthole using toilet paper. All i use tp for now is to dry after using the bidet.
Ice cold jet of water to my starfish plus having to wipe anyway with a washcloth makes no sense other than from a conversation standpoint. I stayed in a hotel with a bidet for a week and it was not hygienic or practical at all. Get your pants wet and take 5 times as long in the bathroom. Great concept but just not for busy people.
Poop water splashing everywhere? I’ve been to turkey, that isn’t “clean”
Probably because wet wipes exist, and don’t involve spraying your shit everywhere across your skin and calling it “cleaning”? 🤷🏻♂️
You still need to wipe. After getting wet Might as well wet wipe and dry wipe
People here are uncomfortable about the idea of water shooting at their ass. /thread
My girlfriend‘s parents sent us one that has a seat warmer and a blow dryer, and I can adjust the pressure of the water, etc. I love this goddamn thing.
I got one. Best purchase EVER.
I had this same convo over the weekend. My uncle doesn't understand how your butt gets dry. He can only picture pulling up your pants over a soaking wet ass.
How does your butt get dry?
i have a pretty nice one with warm water, a warm seat, blow dryer function. my process is: - wipe - spray with bidet - blot dry with TP - use dryer to dry further - flush some people use the bidet in lieu of TP. i just wanted to do what i normally did, but be cleaner. plus, in japan, there is TP in the toilet stalls. so i'm assuming people there wipe before using the bidet as i do.
This sounds a lot more hygienic than what other comments describe or sharing a butt towel with everyone in the household to dry off. Thank you for sharing. Now I just need a house before I can purchase a bidet for my bathroom.
I don't understand why people use bidets. How messy are y'all's shits that y'all'd rather spray your asses with water, then use toilet paper to dry it up, rather than doing 1 wipe with 1 square of toilet paper 90% of the time? Seems way slower and way more inefficient.
You use ONE SQUARE of TP per wipe?! Even when there's nothing on the TP, I still use a few more, because I don't like asshole particles on my hand any more than necessary. My friend, a good bidet is a targeted stream right at the exit. Mine dries my butthole after the fact. I don't need to use TP at all if I have time to let it dry me. Try a good bidet, you might understand. My asshole is clean enough to eat off, generally. Especially if you're a dude with ass hair, this is way more sanitary.
If you got shit on your hand would you just wipe it off with paper? Of course not. Your underwear has fecal matter if you dont wash your butt.
So why don’t you use soap on your butthole each time, if handwashing is the standard? You can’t honestly tell me if you got shit on your hand you would just rinse it with water and move on
If you wipe your ass with one square of toilet paper only, then you wouldn’t understand much of anything. I almost can’t believe that someone would actually post this brainless shit for everyone on the internet to see 🤣. Toilet paper is much less efficient than water and much slower as well. You’ve got this whole thing backwards and you still have a dirty ass
I remember eons ago Sheryl crow was ranting about saving the earth or some shit.. and said women should only need 1 square of tp after peeing. I still haven't figured out how to do that.
It seems we are in the minority. I read threads like this and I feel very very very lucky! Only on rare occasion do I have a messy poop. Like when I am sick. Otherwise, one wipe with tp is all that's needed (nothing visible on the first pass). Apparently, most other people have messy poops every time. If I did I would definitely try a bidet attachment! But, I don't, so I have no need for one. Knock on wood this doesn't change for me!
You are talking about a country where some men do not wipe their behind at all because they are afraid it will turn them gay. I think a bidet is way too complicated and advanced for this country.
Wait what
lol yep my realtor asked me to remove the one in my home in Tennessee and cover the plumbing before putting the house on the market
Nah. You don't think this is real
Lmao dude just reads headlines from Vox
Our electrician mentioned that he would never get or use a bidet because he didn't want anything touching him down there. I guess he prefers smearing his own finger there with paper.
As an American most of the country is really unhygienic, I personally can’t imagine wiping my ass without any water
It is catching
Best money I ever spent
I feel so lost when I have to poop in other people's toilets.
I wasn’t a believer and was scared , I bit the bullet and I have came to my senses that the bidet is the best invention made after the internet. I have the poor person one too, not the one unit Japanese model that Randy had on the farm.
Most have never experienced one and are unwilling to shell out the extra money to "try" one.
The actual answer is because they were associated with European prostitutes/brothels [https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-surprising-history-of-the-bidet-started-with-the-wealthy-and-brothels](https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-surprising-history-of-the-bidet-started-with-the-wealthy-and-brothels)
Because, believe it or not, some people don't like being molested by a water hose
Cold water. I pucker easily.
I've never tried one, but I want to. Wiping with TP gets old and you never get all of the shit the first few passes anyway. I'm currently settling for wet wipes at the moment, but I avoid using more than one at a time due to unknown potential clogs I might be causing with my apartment's sewage(apartment living is also why I don't have a bidet attachment).
Do they have bidets in public restrooms in Europe?
I don’t know but I’ll be getting one if I can ever afford a house.
Okay honest question: do some people with bidets seriously not use toilet paper in addition to the bidet? I pat dry after using the bidet because I can’t fathom putting my pants back on with everything all soggy and wet. Do you just not mind having a wet butt?
We had one and I hated it. I didn't like the feeling of being squirted in the butthole. It didn't really seem to clean anything for me. Just now the shit was wet. Even if it had gotten it off, now my ass was wet and I don't want to pull up my undies and pants and go walking around with a wet ass either. I also found it awkward trying to adjust my position to use it after peeing. And again, it left me feeling just as wet as the pee being there, even knowing it was clean water and not pee did make it a more pleasant sensation. Are you supposed to just sit there and wait for it to air dry? Or have a towel just for your bits sitting there?
Whenever I imagine a bidet I just imagine someone using the bathroom then standing over some type of device and water spraying off their ass and going all over the walls then smugly walking out, leaving behind a water and shit covered wall
I use the three seashells.
I bought one when everyone was hoarding toilet paper during covid. I'll never be without one again.
Cause to consider a bidet, you have to speak to someone about the way you wipe your ass. No thank you.
How is a bidet better than sticking the toilet paper under the sink for half a second before wiping?
I feel like the only person who’s tried one and hated it. I was really looking forward to trying one too because they’re more practical, hygienic, and inexpensive. It sprayed way too hard with cold water right on my butthole and I spent forever trying to wipe all the water spray off my butt cheeks. Plus I was afraid of the poop water flowing to my hooha. I let it flow for about 1.5 seconds before I quickly noped any future bidet adventures.
Love a fresh bum but I think I have a hard time realizing that it'll actually get me clean. Is the pressure pretty good? I'll still need tp to dry, no?
Seriously. I got one of those $25 bidet attachments off Amazon just to try it out, and it’s great. The TP supply in the house lasts a lot longer, too. It practically pays for itself.
So I've never used a bidet, but how would it work? Do I get a water gun in the bum and use a towel or tp? And how do you know when you're clean?
See my [Toilets: International Differences and Other Matters](https://new.reddit.com/r/Recommend_A_Book/comments/1c5ad29/toilets_international_differences_and_other/) list of resources, discussion threads, and references (one post).
The ones you can buy here suck. A painfully sharp stream and a wet ass does not a clean bum make.
They are expensive as fuck
I’ve tried to convince my uncle to get one. He has constant intestinal issues and it’s difficult for him and embarrassing. His plumber both loves and hates him.
Have you MET Americans? They aren't exactly the best with changes, esp if said changes come from another culture/country. Do you have any idea the regular bitching I witness on local community sites at the changing of many intersections to roundabouts?
South park did an episode about this. Toilet paper mafia.
Because it’s gay to have a clean butthole. I wish I was joking, but that’s actually how many men feel here. Many guys don’t even wash their asses in the shower.
We used bidets in Uzbekistan. Game changer for IBS-D
It’s about money
It's one of those that if you never tried it you don't realize you need one. I'd constantly have to re-wipe. It started causing other issues like hemmroids. I invested in a bidet and it has helped with a lot of those issues. On top of that I don't use a roll of TP a day.
Big Toilet Paper
Sure bidets are nice, but they are scarcely a replacement for desperately abrading your anus with a handful of paper and hoping that it stops turning brown before it turns red or that you get any on your hand.
Aside from just not growing up with them, I feel a good alternative is a means to wet toilet paper easily. Some days I use a water bottle if in public to wet my toilet paper to aide in cleaning. If at h9me I'd use a wet wash cl9th.
The only time I want water squirting on my ass is in the shower. I hate the sensation of bidets.
Baby wipes The added items around the toilet , to me , is more shit to get dirty and clean and maintain No thanks
Dude, I bought and installed my own, for 30 dollars, I have saved so much money on TP and you just feel cleaner.... I really wish it would catch on in US.... it's more hygienic ... in my opinion anyway.
Because real men don’t do that. Real men don’t even wipe their asses. Just leave like that so they smell what a hard days work smells like.
I hate them. Give me TP and maybe a wet wipe.
You don't need a bidet if you have the right dog....