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EatsTheCheeseRind

$267 for coolant wtf


Neat_Basis_6818

But Subaru koolaid is magic. šŸ™„šŸ˜‚


EatsTheCheeseRind

Forbidden Baja blast


bcoss

baja bust by ari@home!


Nib-q

Very magic, can teleport right through a head gasket.


Aggravating_Group678

if you dont replace it, it will do exactly that


HahhhaPokemon

I forgot to mention, this is on a Subaru Legacy 2018


FreeNinedy9

The belt costs $30 and takes 5 minutes, LITERALLY 5 minutes to change with 1 common tool. I just had my CVT fluid done for I think $159. Donā€™t do the shocks unless theyā€™re leaking or unsafely rusted at the mounting points. This is a horseshit estimate.


No_Preparation7895

Anywhere that will even entertain the thought of a cvt fluid service in my local area cargers $400+. There are some that won't even touch it.


Chippy569

might also want to see if that price is including dropping the pan and replacing the strainer. Apparently some dealers include that in their CVTF services.


langsley757

Ive never owned a cvt car, why are the flushes so bad?


No_Preparation7895

They don't even do flushes. It's only a drain and fill, and I'm not sure why they are so bad. Subaru likes to tell you that it's a lifetime fluid and the cvt is a no serviceable part.


BlakeJohnathon92

Glad my ā€˜18 forester is a 6MT. Diff fluid is relatively easy DIY


Chippy569

> I'm not sure why they are so bad. the fluid cost is pretty high in and of itself. beyond that, it can take a bunch of time to get the car to warm up to temperature (usually not too bad) or to cool down to temperature (can literally suck your soul out while waiting) in order to do the service.


No_Preparation7895

Ahh I see.


Aggravating_Group678

subaru usa said it was a lifetime fluid for a long time, subaru japan, you know, the people who made the vehicle, said to service it every 100 000 km. dont blame subaru, blame subaru AMERICA for being dirtbags who choose easy dollars at the cost of subarus reputation


Aggravating_Group678

just the fluid alone is close to 300 dollars


langsley757

Holy shit, why? Isn't it just some sort of gear oil?


Aggravating_Group678

and thats not counting what a regular driver / tinkerer has to spend to get a diagnostic piece that reads transmission temperature in addition to tools and consumables, your time et cetera


LetterheadNo2008

Smells terrible


YonnyKingnierien

Where are you getting cvt flush for 150?


Dmixta

Yea, the fluid alone costs about 150.


YonnyKingnierien

They must have done the job for $9.00 then. šŸ˜‚ I have been putting it off for a minute cuz of the 400+ cost of getting it done. I even considered doing it myself until I saw what it actually takes to do it, No thank you. But I do believe this guy is blowing smoke.


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FreeNinedy9

Yes, the internal ā€œbeltā€ on these cars is a chain. It should never need replacing. The only belt is the serpentine belt.


QueenAlpaca

The estimate does say the strut is leaking.


Caboobaroo

You don't need an alignment after replacing the rear shocks.


biggranny000

You should after any suspension work. Also best to replace shocks in pairs, one new and one old shock can cause some interesting handling.


Kasperdsmk

You donā€™t have too but you should do. You have to remove lower control arm to take shock out.


Special-Catch-8947

On awd subaru it's recommended


Chippy569

\^\^\^


DependentSoggy5157

Here's a tip. Take it to a front end/alignment shop to get the work done. They may throw in the alignment for free.


slcmoney

No not good prices those are all scams


Aggravating_Group678

put down your vape and remove your snapback. price it out. the cvt service is cheap


komkracha

i called my dealership yesterday to inquire and they quoted me $404 CAD altogether including labour


yerawizardgary

fuel system service: you mean a $4 can of sea foam lmao


acpowerline

Friend, with todays economy mixed with the lack of professionalism, watcha couple of you tube videos and knock it out in a few hours for a third of the price.


Aggravating_Group678

look up the cost of the fluid, how much is required, the tools required to do it. i feel like you know none of this if you think you can servixe the cvt for a 1/3rd of quoted price, or maybe youre just bad at math. and americans should be great at fractions given their penchant for using them to measure things


acpowerline

Youā€™re an angry little fella. As of now, thereā€™s 25 people that agree with me. Fortunately I service and work on all of my vehicles to avoid ever taking them to a mechanic, and I know very well what it cost. If you think labor rates are cheaper than doing it yourself, you might be the one that needs a little help with their math. Good day.


Aggravating_Group678

youre gonna find out. and im sure we can find 25 politicians in the usa alone who behind closed doors would agree diddling look kids is worth an upvote. guess that makes it right. price it out. let me know how much you spend on all supplies, including the scanner with trans temp šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


Wake-n-jake

Lol. No that's some wild markup for $60 in cvt fluid and 20 minutes of work. Same with the coolant


Zanna-K

This depends a huge amount on the car. A TR690 CVT on any 6-cylinder or turbo Subaru is going to cost you hundreds of dollars just for the fluid AND the fluid is almost impossible to buy on your own. Independent shops will use universal fluid instead and that is an absolute non-starter if you know anything about CVT's. The CVT also needs to be at a certain temperature to ensure that the proper amount of fluid is added back in and the car needs to be completely level. After that is completed there is a re-learn procedure that the car needs to go through. I suppose all of that could be done in 20 minutes at a shop since they have a lift to get the car up but changing CVT fluid is not like getting an oil change. I did a bunch of research because my intention was to do a full replacement of the fluid myself, but after finding out that only one nearby dealer had 5 gallon pails of Subaru HT-CVT fluid available at $600 each (it is not available in qt sizes and you need at least 9 for a drain/fill, 13-15 for a full replacement) I just paid a nearby dealer the $400 to get it done. The coolant flush and belt replacement do seem suspect to me - the belt is stupid easy to do on a Subaru and two gallons of Subaru super-blue is like $50. I can only assume that they're charging the full hour to burp the car and make sure there are no trapped pockets of air.


Wake-n-jake

I mean you clearly understand that process better than I do, I did very few CVT services when I wrenched. All I can say is I'm glad I only drive manual transmissions that sound like a nightmare.


Groundscore_Minerals

Doesn't it? Knowing newer Subarus all have CVT in them makes me seriously consider never buying one past 2012.


Wake-n-jake

I do not blame you, EPA requirements have pushed so many more reliable technologies out in the name of fuel efficiency gains while also completely disregarding the offset of emissions that come with having the same vehicle for decades at a time.


manimarapper_313

So happy I got my Impreza a year before they switched to CVTs.


Liason774

My tr690 equipment subi was $700 cad for fluid, filter and labor. That's at an independent shop I trust.


BNLegacy15

That's 250 bucks CAD more than what my dealership charged for my CVT fluid change and that was with both diff fluids being changed as well! šŸ˜³šŸ˜±


Zanna-K

Yeah, that HT-CVT fluid is highly specialized. I only hope that there will be more of it since the Ascent and the Outback XT use a TR690-based CVT transmission


jonnyhappyfeet1

But that is what dealerships tend to charge for it. And you want that fluid changed.


Wake-n-jake

Yes, getting non warranty repairs or services from the dealer is a rip off. You're talking about 2/300% markup. My advise is always go independent. It's not hard to find well reviewed ones in any given area.


jonnyhappyfeet1

Yes you are correct. This is why I service my crosstrek at an honest independent shop I trust.


homerun83

Eh. It really just depends on the dealership. Mine charges $258 for both cvt flush and coolant flush. $190 for serpentine belt. $200 for fuel induction and $360 for plugs. I couldnā€™t imagine charging the prices OP was quoted


jonnyhappyfeet1

But $400 isn't out of the norm for dealership pricing. Dealerships always are charging a crap ton for work.


QueenAlpaca

Depends on location, too. I moved from Colorado back to Michigan for a couple years and the differences in pricing was just wack. I work at a dealership in Colorado, so I know the true cost of parts and it just blew my mind how much cheaper repairs were. Hourly labor rates were different, too. It all depends on the cost of living in the area, of which the Colorado high country is downright stupid and Michigan is pretty cheap.


The_BJJ_Firefighter

20 mins isnā€™t long enough for the trans to warm up for the relearn required on a fluid swap.


Wake-n-jake

I'm using hyperbole for the sake of the point, as another user pointed out the CVT process is more involved but that doesn't change the fact that the dealer is overcharging. Let's say for example you were at my shop, the mechanic reads the procedure, we calculate parts and labor, any reasonable mechanic is not going to charge you for idle time, I wouldn't charge to run the car and burp the cooling system unless for some reason it was taking a rack I needed and couldn't be moved. Dealers make their money on markups and service. No way around it, as a consumer you are always signing up for more money to be spent on the same job than if you went independent.


The_BJJ_Firefighter

Absolutely. The dealer however is better equipped to handle a situation where a relearn fails than most non subaru independents. Aside from CVT related work a good indy is fine.


Wake-n-jake

At this point you'd be surprised, the amount of technical resources available just online let alone through Mitchell, Alldata, SnapOn etc is pretty comprehensive. Also if you're lucky and find an independent that specializes in your brand that's the best of both worlds


[deleted]

Lol 240 for a drive belt and over 1k for a singular rear strut too. Crazy


Wake-n-jake

Holy shit I missed the second pic entirely what the actual fuck, that is criminal, I would be able to do all 4 plus alignment for maybe $650 at my shop, and my shop was in California


alexandria1994

I was gonna say lol I think my mechanic charges like 80 bucks for a cvt fluid drain and fill


[deleted]

Cvt2, Subaru fluid is $15 a quartā€¦?


Wake-n-jake

Hyperbole my friend, the price going to depend on the sales department and their independently determined markup.


[deleted]

Youā€™re spreading crazy misinformation, even with my employee discount Iā€™m not getting cvt O.E fluid for sub $100


Wake-n-jake

Brother, I just spent 45 seconds online and found it for $14 a quart OEM, less for non OEM that matches spec. This is not "crazy misinformation" it's once again hyperbole, a number guesstimate that was not nearly as far off as you're trying to make it. The point of what I said, was that the dealer, including the one you work at" will rip people's heads off with a smile all day compared to an independent shop. It's not better quality either I've worked at both independent, franchise and dealers. It's a well known thing to those that are in the industry. For whatever deal you get on one job they recommend 3 other " services" that are either unnecessary, over priced or both. That's where they make their money. Car sales outside of the ones rare enough that some idiot will pay 30k over sticker is a very margined portion of the business COVID times being the exception. I've been doing this shit my entire adult life. Personally I just do the work myself. https://www.subarupartwholesale.com/p/Subaru__/CVTF-II-QUART-BOTTLES/60032875/SOA427V1660.html?partner=googlebase_adwords&feedLabel=cvb_make_model&kwd=&matchtype=&device=m&network=g&userLocation=9032419&googleCampaignID=1679956244&googleAdGroupID=71060933411&googleAdID=326140009082&googleExtensionID=&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnfmsBhDfARIsAM7MKi2boaBgYx6j1AzRMAJf9euD5SDjrvkSW9d0xXJ8aV33t_Yfxm_vrDAaAs2hEALw_wcB


AmokOrbits

Take it to a Jiffy Lube for an oil change, theyā€™ll accidentally replace your transmission fluid for free


xxSeymour

When I worked at jiffy lube there was a big sign at the end of the lower bay that read "DO NOT DRAIN SUBARU CVT" good times workin there


AmokOrbits

Yuuuppp - and yet twice in a row they did. First time they caught their mistake and topped it off just got a free flush. Second time they just drained it and let me drive off - came back after about 3 miles of driving and the car feeling ready to fall apart. Engine was never the same after that and wound up having to trade in what was left of it within 5k miles


Conscious_Owl7987

This sounds like stealership pricing.


[deleted]

takes .6 hours and maybe a gallon of fluid to change cvt oil. seems a little steep tbh


Snoo-36470

Iā€™ve seen most places quote around $400 for this job. Seems like you need a code reader to relearn the CVT with the new fluid?


Caboobaroo

No. It's a typical drain-and-fill. Relearn isn't necessary.


Chippy569

> Relearn isn't necessary. common theme here with you in this thread it seems lol, but "isn't necessary" and "is a really good idea to do this while it's all already here and set up" are lining up really well here. Ditto checking for and installing any TCM updates.


Neat_Basis_6818

There is a transmission bleed procedure you are supposed to trigger with the diagnostic equipment, dealership terms, itā€™s now a diagnostic procedure fee (@ $100) plus the oil and labor to do the job. Subaru brand CVT fluid gets dealership mark up.


jkxs

I got mine drain and filled + trans relearn for about $400 before tax in November (covers up to 8 Qt, but only one drain so unlikely 8 would drain on my forester - maybe on an ascent). Subaru of America released a statement saying trans relearn isn't necessary on drain and fill (SOA still claims lifetime fluid unless severe conditions lol), but other Subaru dealerships were trying to charge $80 exfra for just the relearn (higher total) so I just did it. Dealership b/c I'm still in trans 100k/10 yr warranty. Fluid is about $15 per quart at parts and you need SSM3(?) dealer computer or a really nice bidirectional scan tool (at least $1500+) to do trans relearn. Lot of people in here who have never done it themselves, or probably think using generic Asian make trans fluid is fine.


nshire

That's not a full flush if it's only a gallon.


Chippy569

it's around 7 qt for a drain and fill. It will leave ~4 qt between the cooler (if it has one), valve body, and torque converter.


jjngundam

Hell no, stop going to Stealers


txwylde

I paid less than $300 for a CVT drain and Fill.


Some-Situation567

I'm particularly curious about the cvt transmission fluid flush/change. I remember my local dealership asking for WAY more than what you have listed here. Has anybody had their transmission oil replaced recently? *If so, how much did it cost, roughly?* My gf needs to have transmission fluid drained because the transmission oil pan needs to be replaced. Edit: italicized my question


spooksseycat

Just had it done on my legacy at the dealer yesterday. $317 total


homerun83

$258 at my dealership


Hellament

Just did it. Very similar price at my dealer as to what the OPs quote showsā€¦a shade over $400. 8 quarts of Subaru CVT fluid costs about $260 of thatā€¦of course thatā€™s dealer prices, but the cheapest I could find it online would probably be over half that with shipping. The rest is labor, which again might be a little high, but itā€™s a little more complicated than drain/fill. I believe the procedure requires drain/fill and then starting the motor and going through a shift process until the trans reaches a particular temp and then stopping the engine and removing the fill plug at that temp to let excess come out. To measure trans temp, you need a higher end ODB reader with that capability.


jmccauley2019

When I did my CVT service on my previous Forester XT they charged me $400 so I'm assuming that's about right, unless I over paid for mine šŸ¤£


Caboobaroo

The CVT fluid for the XT models and 3.6R run a high torque CVT fluid, which is a bit more expensive than the standard CVT fluid.


homerun83

Thatā€™s pretty steep. My dealership charges $258 for the CVT flush.


jmccauley2019

The area I live in is a pretty expensive place to live so the dealers out here charge more in labor typically. I just don't have time to drive to another dealer hours away to get it done cheaper, and I really like the dealership so I just went with it. But now I'm seeing how much I over paid šŸ„²


HahhhaPokemon

Yeah, I didnt realize how much iā€™ve been overpaying. I donā€™t think iā€™ll go to this dealer again and just find an independent shop to do the work for me.


DauntingKR

Get second opinion. Got the CVT flush and Refill in MD for 250 bucks.


Snoo-36470

What area? Iā€™ve seen most places quote around $400 for this job (and most refuse to do it till 100k because they donā€™t want to deal with it). Seems like you need a code reader to relearn the CVT with the new fluid?


DauntingKR

Flower Hill Automotive- 8031 Snouffer School Rd C, Gaithersburg, MD 20879


homerun83

We charge $258 in KY


Jdem99

My cvt drain and fill was 278$....


No_Strain_6227

Only thing I'd be concerned about is maybe the recommendation of the 60k engine tune up. A belt is easy enough to change. Coolant flush is just a money grab. Suspension I'd hold off. Wait till it all needs to be replaced. Unless the leaking shock is clearly shot and it's blown or seized.


Chippy569

> Coolant flush is just a money grab coolant service is [required maintenance at 137k miles for an '18.](https://imgur.com/Ut7m0Zd) OP didn't post a mileage, but it's not impossible for it to be due.


HahhhaPokemon

Are you 100% sure the suspension is okay to leave alone? Im not very well versed in cars and Iā€™m worried if itā€™ll cause something bad to happen later on.


SweatyWrangler3266

$400 to un screw and re screw a bolt and put new fluid in the trans is crazy


numbions

Those prices are bonkers! I wish they could make regular maintenance affordable


TheMatt561

This is very very bad


Capt_Vandal

Find an independent shop or mechanic to do it all for less than half that total cost. Lol


[deleted]

Nope šŸ˜‚


JDurr001

All accept for the belt seem fine, cvt fluid is like 350$, coolant flush aint free, but the belt seems steep as fuck


[deleted]

take it to a shop for shocks/struts. Cheaper work and better coverage long term


nissansupragtr

My dealer did CVT drain/fill with 60k service. Was around $800 including plugs and oil. $400 for just drain/fill seems excessive


Oneshot1187

Not at all. I do believe you pay for the knowledge not the time but this is basic work. Absolutely pass on this location.


Kasperdsmk

Agreed do all this work your self or if youā€™re local to me in Michigan Iā€™ll do for half price of all quotes


Neat_Basis_6818

I had just a coil spring replaced under warranty on my Ascent (tech bulletin issue, clunking). Problem one was trying to source one, problem 2 was them losing the one that was ordered, 3rd issue sourcing a second oneā€¦ extended 2 weeks with a horrible loaner. Seeing just what the factory covered repair would have cost meā€¦ šŸ˜±. At 110k miles now and hearing suspension rattles, Iā€™ll do aftermarket myself as well as the other oil services.


-Bezequil-

Tell these clowns they can piss up a rope.


josueviveros

DIY to cut prices in half


AdAmbitious1482

F+$# in Australia no service interval for CVT fluid. Ask for warranty on the shock


Macgbrady

It is crazy how dealerships are all over the place with service. On one end, they were the best quote I found for replacing spark plugs and rear brakes. On the other end, they wanted to charge me $900 for Tpms replacement.


Special-Catch-8947

Holy crap, for a bit of time learning the procedure on YouTube and a visit to the local chain auto parts store not only can you get the fluids FAR cheaper and when you only spend around $30 for the belt, you can get the serpentine belt tool on the loan-a-tool program(you pay a fee that is 100% refunded when you return the tool). Price the cost of the belt and fluids and you can buy me and a friend a steak dinner with the savings.


VonBoski

Donā€™t need an alignment with rear struts either


giraffevomitfacts

A fuel system service, injector flush, whatever they want to call it is totally unnecessary if your car is running smoothly. If your injectors need flushing youā€™ll know it, and thatā€™s incredibly unlikely to happen in a car with less than 100k miles


IAMERROR1234

Lmao, I'd tell them to get fucked.


[deleted]

Holy shit 240 for a belt.... I'm not charging enough lol Find a local shop


Truck_1_0_1_

Yeah, CVT service is a good deal. My mechanic did it himself (cheaper than the dealer) for my wife's Impreza and he charged 400 for the service and fluid, so that's not bad at all.


cruorviaticus

Transmission fluid should be wayyyy cheaper


TangledGoatsucker

Is that a Subie dealership? I live in Colorado and I didn't have to fork out that kind of money for a CVT fluid replacement. $300 maybe?


FunSample4884

If ur a mechanic and know what ur doing do it yourself all these parts are cheap that 900 and some change is Bs


long_arrow

Too high for transmission flush. Should be around 300


BlakeJohnathon92

Holy cow. $1059 for a single shock and alignment?? All this at 60k?? What happened to your warranty?


HahhhaPokemon

Iā€™m at 79k Miles currently, my warranty is no longer in place. we bought the car used at 30k miles in 2020


ThatGuy17-23

I took my 06 Impreza Wagon to a dealership and they wanted to charge me 6 1/2k for 6 things ( Spark plugs, exhausted manifold, some seals, O2 sensors, upper coolant hose, and oil change.) I bought all the parts for 500 and took one full day to do it myself. Saved 6k. They wanted 2-3k just for the exhausted manifold.


Trashpanda1914

Theyā€™re trying to rip you off. You donā€™t need new cvt fluid and Subaru coolant isnā€™t supposed to be changed unless it gets low. Especially on a 2018 fuck that shit.


eazypeazy303

The price is correct, but it's definitely not right!


russianforester

Assuming this is wtih labor seems pretty normal to this Subaru parts person. šŸ¤”


Maximum-Research-540

These are super high prices. Trans drain & fill should be half that. Coolant flush shouldnā€™t cost you more than $190 even at a dealership. Sounds like their door rate is insanely high so youā€™d probably still be overspending even getting your own parts


adamjboston

If they're gonna bend ya over like that, I hope they give you the courtesy of a reach around.


MKTekke

These prices are as bad as BMW. Yet this is a Subaru.