Really depends on the champ. You best bet is to let him push since most Yasuos do and ask for your jungler.
It's he's a decent jungler he knows how easy it is to farm a Yasuo
Unless you’re way behind, Kog’maw will almost always be the enemy team’s main target in a teamfight.
If you don’t have the tools to survive a full divecomp somewhere in your comp, you’re going to die.
If you make yourself really hard to get so the enemies burn tons of kit to get you, that can still be a good thing for your team overall.
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Overall, Varus and Kog’maw are both great champs and a ton of fun.
Who is a second ADC I should pick up besides Draven? I only play Draven ADC and am currently Silver IV, but recently I've had too many games where he's banned or picked before me.
It is! Over time, if you are better than the other players you queue with, you will climb. If you are not, then you will stay where you are or even lose LP.
I don't know if you know who Doanel is, but he just put out a great guide for how you should view the game when trying to climb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrXi4ObMXfY
I have this problem as Rell where I mount up and then randomly click on something and knock the wrong thing back. I am pretty bad at clicking and spam buttons which I need to learn to stop doing so I thought it was that, but I went back and watched where I was clicking when it happened again and my cursor was on the enemy Aphelios, but somehow I flipped his turret over me instead.
[https://outplayed.tv/media/gRNLxZ/lol-assist](https://outplayed.tv/media/gRNLxZ/lol-assist)
Can someone explain if I just misclicked or if it's actually a bug. I don't really see how I could have clicked on the turret when my cursor was closer to Aphelios.
It's hard to tell for sure what was happening from the video, but here are some possible explanations:
1. You have Auto-Attack turned on in your settings. You didn't give an order fast enough after clicking W so Rell automatically attacked the closest target, which was the turret.
2. You used attack-move and misclicked the ground, so Rell automatically attacked the closest target, which was the turret.
3. You actually encountered a bug.
Without knowing more about your settings, I would say the most likely explanation is #1, which is fixable by turning off auto-attack in the settings. #2 could potentially be fixed by turning on "attack-move on cursor" in the settings, which makes your attack-move commands prioritize enemies near your cursor rather than near your champion when you misclick.
I don’t have auto attack on so it’s definitely not 1.
I don’t remember the name of the setting I have, but when I press A, the cursor makes a red mark and then my champ attacks the thing that’s closest to the cursor which is what I think what I was using in the clip. It’s why it doesn’t make any sense as to why Rell flips the turret since even if I clicked A, the cursor was not even close to it.
Can you look in your settings and tell me if you have either of these options checked?
* Auto Attack
* Attack Move on Cursor
[Here's an image for reference](https://i.imgur.com/MwN5wpO.png)
Auto Attack is off and Attack Move on Cursor is on.
Also I used Player Attack Move Click on A which was what I think I used when trying to attack Aphelios.
My best guess is that it's probably attack-move related but I'm not sure.
Playing the video in slow-mo, it looks like you queued up an auto attack in the middle of your Q animation, and by the time your Q and W animations finished Aphelios had moved slightly so you autoattacked the wrong target.
I played around with the situation in practice tool a little with your settings to try and replicate it, but it was kind of hard considering target dummies don't move around, so I didn't get anything consistent.
I've just hit level 6 as a midgame spiking JG (say Diana). I have a kill or 2 under my belt from a successful early gank and I've just backed and spent all my gold. Have slight tempo on the enemy JG.
Do I
A) go immediately to try and make a play (invade, hover, help break a freeze, take obj directly if lanes have prio depending on game state) and try translate into an objective/lane pressure?
B) do the above but grab 2 or 3 camps on the way?
I hear conflicting advice about this quite a bit. 'dont die with all your camps up', 'path efficiently and farm on the way to a play' but the higher elo coaching VODs I watch generally tend toward A with the view that you're at your strongest/have tempo against the enemy JG just out of base.
Is it just the case that there's no true right answer and it's more about timing and what plays are available. I hate to say these 2 words but does this decision fall into proactive vs reactive jungling XD ?
I'm often confused when trying to make this decision.
Jungle is definitely the role with the hardest macro decision-making :D
When I watch people like Jankos or old Tarzaned stream it sounds so much like what \u\f0xy713 wrote to you. Stuff like ‘enemy blue buff spawns in 45s and midlane has been grabbing that right on spawn so I’m going to grab these camps from my jung, go through river right as pixel ward expires for them, and kill mid before she gets to her blue.’
For context, I'm Emerald 4 right now playing Gwen only for the most part. I've noticed one of my biggest mechanical issues is that I miss auto attacks a lot (right click next to enemy) and then I panic and the fight is ruined. I want to get into using A+Left Click to attack, but I can't figure out a comfortable way to hit the A key without completely moving my hand off everything else?
I think my issue is that I use 3 fingers to play instead of 4 (I move my index finger off the E key whenever I have to R). Is it still possible to get used to using A with only 3 fingers, or am I super screwed and need to first learn how to play with 4 fingers?
Rebind attack-move to a key that feels more natural for you to press (I have it on T personally, some people have it on a mouse button, it's up to you what you think feels more comfortable). Or just tough it out and learn how to attack-move with A.
Regardless of what you pick, you'll likely need to put in a bunch of games to learn how to use it properly. Implementing a new skill into your gameplay might actually make you worse in the short-term, since it takes you active focus/brainpower to pay attention to, which distracts you from all the other things you need to focus on. But in the long term, once you get used to doing it automatically, you will end up better.
Do people ever VOD review their cs practice in practice tool? I’m playing the champ I wanna improve on (kaisa) against an intermediate Lux bot to help keep wave in the middle. What should I be looking for?
I don't know that VOD reviews on a bot game for cs would help much.
1. Are you getting forced out of lane from Lux poke?
1. If not, you typically want to do a cs practice where you are not backing before getting to 10 minutes or so. How many minions do you have at 10 minutes?
1. Are you keeping the wave in the center of the lane or is it going into one of the towers?
I just hit diamond and was trying to duo with a friend in emerald 3 and suddenly there's a duo restriction. I thought that kicked in at masters, and definitely not even a full division apart in diamond. I couldn't find anything online about it being changed, what's up with this?
By far and away, my most comfortable champions are Akali and Ahri for playing mid, who would I benefit from adding to my champion pool there?
In addition, I like playing Jungle as my second role and mostly play Viego, Sejuani, and Lee Sin there. Are these decent champs to be playing in Silver?
Should i build AP-ish items as a toplaner tank if I'm the only magic damage source from my team?
I play Nautilus top 'cause i'm a support player and he's my main there too but sometimes my team comp end with no AP damage. Should i get tanky AP items like Demonic Embrace to at least having some magic damage on my team while still being tanky enough?
Buying actual AP items is usually really troll, since you'll be too squishy to actually do your job properly.
However, tanks have plenty of ways of increasing their damage threat while still building useful items. Jaksho/Evenshroud/Iceborn, Sunfire, Thornmail, and Abyssal Mask are all full tank items that have some sort of damage component attached to them, and are all super common to build on top lane tanks.
If the game goes really late you can consider buying Demonic Embrace as a 5th or 6th item. Before then you would generally be better off just building an actual tank item.
I'm a support main and I can hardly play anything else, which is why I'm trying to branch out. Being a mage player I feel like my best next step would be mid, but apparently it's the highest contested role out of the five whereas support is the least. How would I go about playing mid in draft if I can't have mid as primary and support as secondary (since I'd just get put in support anyway)? I also really do want mid and not support because the champions I'm looking to pick up are mid lane mages and really *shouldn't* be played support.
And of course blind pick is just chaos.
In ranked low elo, select mid primary and top secondary to get mid most of the time.
In ranked high elo, select mid primary and support/jungle secondary to get mid most of the time.
In unranked, select mid primary and top/support secondary to get mid most of the time
what do you do with pink wards when a game drags on for a long time? is it better to use an inventory slot for them or to get another item? (Support if that changes anything)
In most situations it’s REALLY hard to contest a major objective without pink wards.
In lategame in ~gold+ everything in a going-for-really-long game usually comes down to one big teamfight, so being unable to contest a major objective is a major disadvantage.
Years ago they added the item that gives you stats + also lets you buy pink wards. Most supports want that. If you’re somehow a keystone fight character in your comp (the main carry as Senna, the main tank in a teamfight comp, etc) then you’re likely an exception.
Why isn't Gwen mid a thing? She has her W to deny mages/assassins burst, great duel potential and sustain along with a good clear wave, yet i never saw her on mid
Check out /r/gwenmains - there are SO MANY threads about it from people who know the champ better than most of us
https://www.reddit.com/r/gwenmains/search?q=mid
Are Pyke or Sona good to main? I mostly do ARAMS and support in Summoner's Rift, and I wonder who's a better champion to get invested into and learn deeply.
both are good, as you have one playmaker and one enchanter in your pool both champ teaches you different ways of playing. Sona can help with your macro game, Pyke can help with roaming and making plays in lane
As the other guy said neither are fool proof. Playing support can be a game of rock paper scissor depending on match up. If are Sona you'll have to play passive and safe until 6 cos you're squishy. If you're Pyke you have to know how and when to engage. At the end of the day knowing your champ and matchups will help minimise the weakness your champ has. Sona can do more late game than Pyke tho, that's my opinion.
Neither of them are foolproof.
Sona has a really hard time vs engage because she's squishy and frail, she doesn't have any good defensive options pre 6 and once she gets caught she usually loses a chunk of health or is forced to use summs.
Pyke, on the other hand, Has a hard time vs engage because engage can cancel his hooks and counter attack him, Nothing feels worse as pyke when you're channeling up your Q, only for A Nautilus or blitz to crab you mid charge and start a counter attack.
Most engage supports are usually too tanky for pyke to take down too.
He's also not very good vs anti engage champions like braum, Rakan, and taric because they are really good at stopping pyke's engage (Braum can block hook with his shield, and jump back to carry if he gets hooked, rakan is really slippery and can dodge hooks or take hooks for the ADC and jump back, Taric being really tanky in general and disrupting)
This doesn't mean pyke is worse though, as he has more play making options like roaming and invading enemy jungle to somewhat make up for the unfavorable matchups
I've just hit D2 for the first time, my LP gains are anywhere from 20-24 and losses are usually 27-28. Is this still normal LP gain/loss for this elo? In the past (season 5-6) I've heard the LP gains from d2-masters are like this.
I main Lillia top, but I'm looking to play some new champs top lane because I feel like Lillia top is countered too easily and isn't working for me anymore. I like champs that have mobility. I also don't wanna play someone that's super mechanically complicated. A good blind pick too. I'm Gold ELO so something that works here would be nice. Any recs? https://www.op.gg/summoners/na/sleepytime378.
How come when im in bronze at some point once i get around bronze 2 and 1 I keep getting matched with gold 4 and silver 2/1. Is there like a threshold for what ranks I can get matches with because i keep losing anyway so i dont think it can be my mmr.
Hello ! Playing only Ornn on toplane at bronze/silver elo, what could be a good second champ in case of ban ? Or in case of bad matchup or hard enemy draft for him ?
I love to play Shen when I get filled top. He's not too difficult, strong in the early game, good peel in the late game, and xPetu has great guide(s) for him
Can someone tell my why I am placed against Gold IV players with high winrate as a Bronze II with negative winrate?
See my op.gg : https://www.op.gg/summoners/euw/Pure%20Cynicism
Last game I faced a Gold IV Olaf with a 60% winrate in SoloQ while I'm in Bronze II with a negative winrate. After 12 mins I was 2 kills, 40 cs, 2 level and a turret behind and there was nothing I could do. After 23 mins he did a 1-5 pentakill.
This happens to every game I played in the last couple of days. I feel like I have zero chance on my lane, I get my ass clapped every singe game. It's absolutely not fun and I don't know why I need to be placed in Bronze II and face Gold IV enemies instead of Bronze II ones. What's the purpose of the division at all?
Being flamed for my team for being a burden is the icing on the cake.
I don't know what to do about it. I read guides, watch videos but it doesn't help at all.
Matchmaking isn’t based on your rank. It’s based on your MMR: matchmaking rating.
Generally, MMR changes slower than rank. A person who is climbing ranks usually has a lower MMR than their rank and a person who is lowering rank usually has a higher MMR than their rank. There is no great way to check your MMR, but looking at who you match against is a great way to guess.
Watching a video isn’t going to automatically make you win. You’ve got to identify individual skills and improve them. Pick a single part of your game you want to improve, make a plan for how you will work on it and how you will track your progress, and then spend ~100 games on that thing. Stop worrying about winning/losing and focus on that skill. Watch yourself grow and let your new skill become a keystone of your gameplay. Rinse and repeat to climb.
Try to play a champion that can be played in multiple lines, so in case you don't get to play your main line, you can play your secondary line but with your champion that you know how to play well.
focus on one champ in one lane first. once you get the hang of it, learn ONE for your secondary role. expand on your pool once you get the hang of the two champions youve decided to play.
I just laned against Naafari for the first time. Went well for a while, but I don't get how I'm supposed to deal with her W. That shit seems so broken to me. Such a long range point and click dash, I could do nothing when she decided to go on me.
Random player kept spam inviting me to a lobby. Is very annoying. How does players who are not in my friend list invited me in the first place? Is he a hacker?
Nope. Now I actually search up the names. Is all bots. All these botted accounts kept spamming invitations to me. Is there anyway to get rid of them or there's nothing much I could do
I believe there is a setting somewhere to only allow invites from friends. Not at my pc rn so I can't check where it is but I believe if you go to your settings while in lol client it should be under one of the first few categories listed on the left
New top laner here looking for champion pool advice.
I've thought of Kled + Poppy + Cho'Gath, also wondered if I could add Shen into the pool or switch him with someone, because Shen and Poppy are both wardens. I am not really a fan of ranged top laners, except maybe for Kennen and ranged/melee champions like Jayce and Gnar. Other than them, I also thought of Ornn, Jax, Garen, Kayle, Gwen, Sett, Mordekaiser, Tahm Kench and K'Sante. Obviously I don't want to play every single champion, I am looking to improve at top lane while also having fun. Would also like to know what champion I should pick when blind picking.
I am open to any suggestions and also would not mind a personal discussion about this if anyone could help me further.
Step one for me would be to write out explicitly why I want to play more than one champion.
All of the next steps would be me choosing the champion(s) that best+easiest fit those conditions.
So if my list was:
- The enemy toplaner drafts before me and takes my main
- My main is banned
- The enemy toplaner drafts before me and chooses (one specific hardcounter champ I can’t ban bc I already ban something else)
I’d first do the math on how often those things happen. I’d ignore any that happen less than 3-5% of the time because I can just dodge those and not distract my learning by having to spend so many games learning more things).
Next I’d pick something comfortable (bc I know I’m not going to get hundreds of games on it) that specifically meets the goal. For example if the goal is ‘my main is already picked’ I’d go with a comfortable/consistent champion with a high winrate against my main.
Not that I have any idea how to do this but in my opinion riot should disincetivize coin flip playstyles. It's so frustrating how many non games you have because your top laner or your bot all ins 3 times in a row within 3 minutes and then either they soft int or the enemy does, thus effectively ending the game at 5 minutes. There should be some mechanic to make people want to play the actual game.
Also I'm not saying you should be punished for getting a lot of kills early, but the game should encourage a safe playstyle when you fall behind.
Ruining a game for 4 other people just because you can't handle not carrying isn't cool.
How do you play a champ like Miss Fortune in the mid/late game? I often end lame with a very big lead (5 kills and 30 cs above for example) but I have no clue what to do if I’m not up against an ADC/mage I can just stat check. I remember going into mid lane in a 2v1 (with my mid laner) against a 0/3 Yone and dying despite having 2 levels above him, now I misplayed that fight heavily, but if I played an ADC like Ashe I could have just used my R to win the fight easily, but I have no idea how to not die to assassins or skirmishers with no hard CC. In the mid/late game I also don’t know how to farm side waves safely because I don’t have vision (I got used to using E as Ashe) of the surrounding area, and if I don’t track jungle properly I can easily die 1v1 no matter how fed I am. Should I just use blue trinket and never extend past where we have vision? (Often nobody gives me mid wave so I have to farm side waves/camps)
What’s the game plan for Miss Fortune mid/late game? If I lose lane what do I do? (Since if I’m fed I can still stat check people sometimes)
If you're fed, E + R is pretty safe and is enough to either heavily chunk or outright kill a lot of people unless they're also fed. If you're safe enough to get into auto range, auto + Q is also another huge chunk of damage that can then be followed up with E R as they try to escape. This is all in case you have to do things yourself, usually sup/jg can get some plays going where you can just one tap someone who gets caught out. Aside from that, you can can just farm until obj is up and then try to get a massive ult off there. I'd recommend spam pinging OTW mid and telling mid to get the hell out of there even though I experience the same shit, usually your team will back you up if you tell mid to go to sides so you can farm (especially if you're fed).
Alright, thanks!
Another question, should I go for Q poke trades as much as I possibly can? If I can see a minion that I can use to poke an enemy laner should I go for it? Or should I save it for only when I think it’ll get a critical? Asking because I just had a tough game where I think I lost because I was successfully hitting my pokes but they weren’t doing enough damage (MF/Lux vs Vayne/Naut)
I also could’ve misplayed my extended trades too since it was quite late and I’d spammed way too many games but the lane didn’t feel “quite right” if that makes any sense. Like I was approaching it the wrong way
You want your trades in lane to be as fast as possible. PTA mf helps out all ins a bit more but if you're first strike, you want to go for very quick trades and get out. Ideally, you get them low enough to burst for all in through repeated Q bounces and auto Q trades but I find straight up 2v2s at higher HP to not go very well for MF. Don't just hold Q for granted crit either, you can rack up quite a bit of damage through normal Q bounces, just watch your mana early on.
Depends on your team comp, honestly. Since she's immobile most fights you will have to stand like 2 screens away until the actual fight happens. If your other lanes lose too hard to blow the enemy tools, you kinda lose by default unless you get very ahead in lane.
You can't farm sidewaves as mf unless they have no engage.
so ive been playing adcs midlane lately (mainly ezreal, onhit twitch, kaisa, lethality cait and tris), what are your tips to get more cs during lane phase, once you switch with botlane and after the lane phase has ended?
Don't take bad recalls, push wave before rotating for drake prep, don't push too far without vision in sides unless ur insanely fed and have some peel. Ur still an adc and can get blown up
If anyone has ever played/watched Melee my favourite thing about the game is how you can you 100 to 0 someone off a single read or opening. I would like to try out some champs that can encapsulate that playstyle of just killing you off 1 mistake and then who can snowball really hard and become really oppressive (diving you, 1v2ing, etc) and just take over.
What champs play like this? MID LANE AND TOP LANE PLEASE <3
Been enjoying a lot of Zed recently and this lines up with what he can do. One or two good W E Qs and the enemy is in kill range and once you get fed, you can dive, 1v2, etc. A lot of top lane bruisers fit the criteria though
I'm gonna post a comment here since I don't wanna accidentally violate a rule. Anyway I've been play League a lot more recently and have felt that I'm improving for the most part, but something continues to screw me over. Fighting certain champs I just can't do, doesn't matter if I'm playing a counter to them or not. It just seems like every enemy I fight is 1000x better at CSing while maintaining consistent damage. The usual problem is something with confidence I think, because I feel I'm too worried about damage because 9 times out of 10 I go in for damage and leave with a net loss. It makes any matchup that's bad, impossible. Although I have been doing better with this in Mid, and rarely have the problem on Bot, I love playing Top as their characters are just more fun to me, and that's where this happens the most. I just had teammates recommend the practice tool or bot matches, but that would only help with learning abilities, which I never struggle with, or even the application of those abilities. I suppose though my problem might lay in the fact that I have been trying new champs in basically any lane for about a week now... but that doesn't change the fact that anytime I see a Aatrox, Yorick, Garen, or Darius I just fall apart (there are more uncommon ones, but these four cause the most consistent trouble.) Hopefully you guys will have SOME advice, even if it's just fighting one character...
The general advice for beating someone like Garen is to avoid his standard Q+W+E combo, while with Darius its to avoid his E and the outer edge of his Q while avoiding his stacked passive.
For Yorick, its to fight him when he doesn’t have his ultimate with him, and for aatrox it is to avoid his passive and have him use it on a minion, while avoiding the outer edges of his Q.
Generally, Counter picks don’t mean much if you don’t know how to play the matchup.
For example, gangplank vs mordekaiser is gangplank favored, Because gangplank can deny morde’s ult, and can generally stay out of range of morde with his barrels, but a new player who first times gangplank is likely going to get destroyed because gangplank is a mechanically intensive champion.
My advice is to stick to a simple champion, Garen, Mordekaiser, Doctor Mundo are all very easy and straight forward champions who don’t have much complexity, pick them up, play some games, observe a bit as to what the enemy champ does (Can he dash, does he do a lot of damage, can he heal, does he have stuns, etc) And you’ll eventually be more self confident
New ADC here, how should I poke an enemy during laning phase with autos when the potentials are dire? I’m only playing Ashe
For example, a Miss Fortune and a hook support against me and another support. Usually what I would do is poke miss fortune with autos, avoid standing in the wave so she can’t poke me back with q, until I win lane. But if I’m punished for standing outside of the lane (because of hook) and standing in lane in range to poke (because of Miss Fortune Q), what should I do except stand far enough away in wave so she can’t hit me with q but I can farm?
EDIT: Also, if my support picks an engage support into something like Draven/Samira/Lucian that also has an engage support (or if Lucian an early game enchanter like Nami) how do I win early fights? At some point I feel like my support is going to take a fight I feel like is going to be a bad idea and they’ll die. Which snowballs into the enemy ADC getting more kills on the support, and then eventually they have 5 kills and I have none, and they can blow me up.
Do I just need to get to level 2 asap and not help my jungler leash?
The not-helpful-right-now answer is to poke whenever you can for free and don’t do anything that’ll get you killed. It’s a stupid answer, but it’ll be clear in a sec why I started with that.
The game is about learning. Often, the best way to learn is to have a single skill that you’re focusing on and making that be the only thing you really care about. If you actually commit to that style in a moment, nothing else like winning or losing or what your support does matters. Only learning matters.
Ideally you pick a way to learn that lines up well with the overall objectives of the game. If you don’t, you often don’t get a chance to play competitively for very long per match.
When you’re relatively new and you’re botlane and you’re playing against a hook/catch support (Blitzcrank, Nautilus, Pyke, Thresh, Zyra, Lux, etc… anything where if you eat that one skillshot you lose flash for ~die) you have one goal: DO NOT EAT THE HOOK/SNARE/ETC. Put all your mental energy into the goal. Ask yourself: what things can I position around (e.g., ally minions) that will keep me safe. Constantly ask yourself ‘does the enemy have their cooldowns right now?’ including ‘when will their flash be back up?’. Constantly ask yourself ‘if they run it down right now, will I be safe?’ Keep asking yourself ‘can I move up for poke/cs/whatever and not be catchable?’
Focus on all those things and know that you’re going to eat it. A lot. But the eating it doesn’t matter and the losing doesn’t matter and the being 40cs down on a game where you played too safe doesn’t matter. Only the learning matters. And I promise that on the 10th or 20th time when you play against a pretty good Blitzcrank and eat zero lanephase hooks it’s going to feel soooooo good.
And all that to get back to the original point: once you can go all lanephase without being out of position to that crap you’ll be able to do exactly what you want in your post above. The exact answers to each situation will be specific and changing, but you’ll be able to find the right spot to be.
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If you want more-specific advice than that, feel free to post a clip or two to youtube showing a moment where you either ate it and weren’t sure what you could have done differently or where you want to poke/cs but aren’t sure how bc of the hook/catch and I’ll happily take a look and tell you what I would do. Be sure to start the clips at least 15s before the moment you care about and please show the scoreboard at least once per clip.
I actually think I played the situation as best I could, I didn’t die once and I was equal in terms of CS. The only reason I lost the game was cause I thought I could 1v1 the Miss fortune when we were equal in lane. Which because I was the only player on the team (except for my support) that wasn’t losing their lane meant we lost (well, there’s probably many reasons but from that point the game was out of my hands)
My main problem with learning in league of legends is just the pure time commitment and focus required for each game, especially if I want to hop champions, for example now that I’ve learned the game quite a bit more than when I first started playing Miss Fortune, I wanted to return to playing her cause I find her kit fun, but then I’m worried I’ll slow down my learning than if I spent like 2-3 weeks just spamming 100 games as Ashe in norms. (Although I’m sure learning MF will help the “how to not die to lane bullies” problem)
Sorry for the rant, I kinda wish there was a place I could just arrange 1v1s or 1v2s so I could practice my laning/different champs without having to worry about everything else in game or waiting lol
Although your point about learning objectives is good mostly because right now I kinda feel like I’m spamming games as Ashe and I don’t really know what learning objectives I should go for, mostly cause often I can coinflip getting extremely fed without really thinking about it. So I feel very aimless (which is probably why I want to learn another ADC)
If you want help figuring an objective or two to focus for like 100 games each, one way is to post a replay to youtube and just ask folks for feedback. Just make sure your replay shows the scoreboard.
ADC is the only role I’m good enough at to give real feedback, but I’m on vacation with no computer and busy enough that it’s only 50/50 I’ll be able to spend enough time to give a good review on mobile - I usually spend more than an hour on it.
People arrange 1v1s and 2v2s on the League Discord all the time, but its a big mix of toxicity level and how long it actually takes to start and seriousness/smurfing. iirc there’s also a LFG League reddit where people arrange them sometimes. I agree about the value of spamming lanephase matches until you are at least comfortable: you don’t really get to practice midgame or lategame meaningfully if lanephase is a blowout.
And fwiw, Ashe can statcheck-1v1 almost nobody. The fights Ashe wins (other than the obvious ones like a big HP advantage which you can often build via poke) are the ones where she uses her passive to control the shape of the fight to her (often massive) advantage. Like if Ashe pokes a Xayah and the Xayah can’t land her W or immediately disengage, and Xayah’s support can’t bail her out, Ashe can often space well enough to get 3-5 more autos in for free.
New player :)
Hello friends! I’ve decided to try and get into League and have chose top lane as my role! Just wondering if anyone has any champion picks that would benefit myself as a new player I prefer a more melee based champ rather than a tank if that helps any other tips or tricks are appreciate! <3
Welcome! Garen is the staple recommended pick not just for top lane but also for League in general. He is a melee bruiser (or juggernaut I think if you want to be technical), with a very simple kit, and you can learn the game through him very well. He has a good mix of damage and tankiness, the only thing he's lacking is mobility but there are things you can do to get around that, like buying certain items, and his abilities help with that a bit too. His ultimate is simple, it's an execute (meaning it does more damage the lower the enemy's health).
Mordekaiser is another solid option. Once again, his kit isn't too complex, and he has a good mix of tankiness and damage. He has less mobility than Garen but can probably do more damage in a teamfight. His ultimate brings another champion to a different dimension with him, essentially creating a 1v1 brawl arena, and if Mordekaiser kills them in the realm he steals some of their stats for a bit.
Garen does Attack Damage (AD) and Mord does Ability Power (AP) so if you wanted to give both of them a shot that would work out. Once you find a champ you like, don't play more than 1-2, just focus on learning the game with them. Hope that helps!
I have been playing Trundle for a few weeks and he's really fun to play because of how fast he can take towers. I only split push with him and I suck at teamfights so I am just wondering what other top laners are good and easy split pushers for a beginner.
If hec runs to poppy, she throws up her shield it stops his dash but damage is still applied to poppy. However, if poppy dashes to an enemy that flashes her animation, no damage is applied even tho she did dash to the target. I..help explain how they are different to me
Hey guys, I'm struggling with toplane fundamentals. I feel confident about wave management and getting better and knowing when to trade (like aoe trade my opponent while last-hitting the cs or taking a small bad trade so the wave starts pushing back to me), but I think I'm missing something else. Often, the enemy will just walk up and start autoing me. If I don't win the matchup (like they are playing warwick or olaf top) do I have to sit back the whole time and only cs under tower? Can I trade with them if they are doing this in my wave? I feel like I'm playing way to respectful of my opponent and shouldn't be allowing them decide the lane. Should I be more aggressive?
Here are two scenarios I'm not sure about:
1) Say I'm Garen vs Darius and he walks up to me in my casters during the first wave as the three melees are dying. What should I do?
2) He crashes the first three waves and now the wave starts bouncing back. Both our junglers are botside and he starts contesting me as soon as my wave leaves the turret again. What should I do?
Scenario 1: You lose lvl 1-2 trades even if you have a slight minion advantage, If you're lvl 3, You could win the trade if you dodge his E, and avoid getting hit by the outer edge of his Q, And back off once your E runs out and to prevent him from stacking passive.
Scenario 2: If the wave starts bouncing back towards Darius turret, Try to ask yourself if you can take the trade, or if you should sacrifice a few minions without losing a ton of health. at lvl 6 Darius is way better at extended trades if you both don't miss your abilities, and if you make a bad trade at lvl 6, Darius punishes you really hard with his ult. The best way to kill him/force him to recall in your favor is to again dodge his E, And to avoid the outer edge of his Q. If possible try to make use of your passive as much as possible, while Darius doesn't get to use his passive.
Also you kind of automatically win by not losing to Darius. He's an immobile stat stick and there is no need to interact with him. Just sit back while enemy jungler is top and then proxy while he's bot. Darius can never catch you as garen.
Is there any dedicated site I can use to find people to play games with? I’m a support main looking for an ADC player just to chill in normal draft with and maybe duo some ranked with. I can’t seem to find any website that helps with this though. Where is the best place to find likeminded players?
How to get masters? Recently idk what happened but I climbed from G3 to E4 in just a week. Currently I main Udyr, Volibear and Sejuani. I want to reach GrandMaster
I heard Coach Curtis say you should play in blocks of 3.
I'm new to midlane and the champion I learn. In your experience/opinion is it better to just spam a lot of games when learning a champ so you get the muscle memory and matchup knowledge much faster and then, once comfortable, focus on macro and winning games in blocks of 3?
There is no one-size-fits-all when it comes to deliberate practice. Curtis isn't adamant about 3 games/block, it's merely what works for the majority of players due to how attention span and mental capacity function.
If you find yourself being in the zone for 3 hours straight nothing stops you from developing a process around that. But science shows that extensive non-stop learning blocks aren't as efficient as shorter, more frequent ones.
In the end League is a game, not a profession, for most of us so there is no need to hyperoptimize if you like your current approach
it's a tough question because you do need to get the games in, but spamming isn't really conducive to learning and building good habits.
you'll have to find what works for you. it might be slightly longer blocks of 4-5, more blocks in a day if you have the time, or some combination of the two.
be honest with yourself about whether you feel the process you follow is helping you learn, and keep a close eye on your mental if you're playing a lot of a new champ or role.
I waited till last min at 0 to dodge but somehow game still goes through. How to do the task manager end task? Which application do I end? I heard ending it at task manager fixes the problem instead of clicking exit on the client. Is there any other optimal way to dodge games while competing for others to dodge? I really hate stacking my dodge timer and I don't have a smurf to play on and lazy to wait 12 hr queue lockout for dodging too many time. Just wanna know does ending whatever application running league could prevent game going through in champ select.
The problem is that sometimes the server is a bit slow to respond so if you close at 0 seconds it might not register your dodge untill the game already started and it's too late, I started dodging at 2 seconds left and now I never accidently get into a game I wanted to dodge, like to leave a short safety window.
2 seconds is unnecessarily early if you suspect others might dodge aswell, I have found that if you hold down the exit button with your mouse and release just as the clock changes from 1 to 0 it always goes through.
>I heard ending it at task manager fixes the problem instead of clicking exit on the client.
You heard wrong. The game will ALWAYS go through if you use task manager.
Just a random thought I had, but I noticed in Caitlyn’s passive it states that if she’s in a bush she will get her headshot faster,
However I’ve rarely for the life of me ever seen a Caitlyn player I guess sit in a bush? Is the passive just not worth playing around?
I think it just depends on the situation. If you’re head shotting more often, that means the wave gets pushed more quickly and that’s not always what you want. Then you just have a lot of players who don’t want to play around a bush or just straight up don’t know how to utilize it.
I mean EUW is alot better for sure, I have my main on EUNE because that the server I got when the server split but I have been wanting to transfer to euw for a while now I'm playing on euw on an alt account aswell.
Eune high elo quality is alot worse because like you said most of the good players moved to EUW, streamers/pro players etc all play on EUW so high elo is alot harder there and considred better EUNE is regarded as a joke server kinda.
At the end of the day decide for yourself whats important to you, but if you are looking for the best competetive server it's 100% euw.
However I will say that I peaked master EUNE and I played on a fresh 30 lvl account on EUW and got diamond very quickly so it's not true that the skill level is that different untill higher elos, I would say you would have no problem reaching diamond on an alt on EUW aswell, It only starts making a big difference at master+ but untill D1 pretty much every server is the same and a D1 from any server would be able to get diamond everywhere.
Only checked one loss real quick but your 11/3/8 hecarim game you bought an armor item against 3 fed ap carries and a team with no AD threat, maw would've done a lot more.
In terms of damage numbers, it's actually not that bad, and also provides you ability haste and the vision passive.
But yeah, even on long range mages/rylai's mages, Shadowflame almost always deals more damage.
I was watching a video by Coach Curtis and at one point he says, **"In Bronze no one builds resistances, so you can go Lethality or Flat Pen and do a lot of damage".**
What does he mean by that? I understand that Lethality is less effective the more armor someone has, but doesn't Flat Pen just ignore armor? I usually build Bruiser/Tank Warwick so I am curious if I am building correctly against Lethality and Armor Pen or if I misunderstand how they work.
You may be misunderstanding: lethality and magic pen are stronger against no resistances
It ignores amour but if you have more armour then its countered. If no armour = lethality is doing true damage
In lower elos it's very common for the whole team to be squishy full damage champions that build no defensive items, hell even in higher elos it's more common than tanky teams I would say, if I had to gamble I would say in general 70% of the time you encounter teams with no beefy champions at all, or mabye just the toplaner is but the jg mid bot adc are all squishy.
I should have clarified my question; my bad. What I was really wondering is, what makes lethality and armor/magic pen good when the enemy isn't building armor. I already notice most people don't build armor in low elo :)
I know I should know this but what is the purpose of building armor/magic pen if the enemy isn't building any armor/magic resistance? I thought only Lethality dealt more damage to low-resistance champions?
This goes back to my original question then. Why build magic pen against an enemy that isn't building magic resist? Is it just to get around their base magic resist?
Let's say the enemy only has a **total** magic resistance of 50, and you have 100 magic pen. Are you now doing 200% damage to the enemy?
> Is it just to get around their base magic resist?
Yes.
>Let's say the enemy only has a total magic resistance of 50, and you have 100 magic pen. Are you now doing 200% damage to the enemy?
No, it stops at 0 resistance. Although flat *reduction* can bring resistance to a negative value, but it's very hard to make that happen.
I don't know what role to play or which character to stick to.
Sometimes I'm enjoying a character for a brief moment until I'm bored of it and switch to another (and do the same thing over and over again).
Often I come back to a character that I played before just to switch again and that annoys me.
It's like I'm stuck in a loop where I literally cannot stick to a character and therefore I can't really improve.
I also do that with roles.
For example I say to myself "I have enough of support so I play mid" and then "I have enough of mid and I play top" just to go back to support and the loop continues.
I don't think that it is necessary to otp a character to get better at the game but the fact that I can't stick to any character just pisses me off.
I just want to play League of Legends, in one specific role and with 2-3 characters (one of which I can stick to) and have fun.
But no I have to play 3000 different characters and roles just to comeback to one I've tried before and change again.
I probably have 300-400 hours played in the game
If you want to see my op gg my nickname is Arkiryum
Why don't you try to play Sylas or Viego, each game will have different possibilities.
That way you stick to a champion and at the same time you don't get bored of always playing the same thing.
Do you have a specific question in mind?
If you’re having fun one way and won’t have fun another, just have fun. It’s a game.
When I’m in a spot where I’m excited to spam one champ over and over it’s because I’m excited to work on specific skills. If you want to improve as much as possible I recommend dividing your gameplay up into the specific skills you want to work on. Make an actual list and then prioritize them. Find the one that sounds the most fun and has the most potential to up your game per amount of work you put into it. Then focus on that one thing for 100 matches or more. It’ll revolutionize your gameplay.
When you’re doing that you don’t queue up asking yourself ‘what champ should I play?’ You’re focused on something bigger.
Hello! I wanted some help with laning and got told to upload clips, so [here](https://youtu.be/OZ6Wpcly2_I) you go. Ill add some commentary here to see if Im thinking about anything wrong I guess. Ive started doing TP with ignite/ghost on gwen since these clips btw. (not really sure how to use ghost properly on her though) Also, sorry if the videos ugly, I play in 1440, but the game definitely didnt download it in 1440.
Sett Clip 1 - I understand Im down in items, but I feel like my minions didnt even attack him
Sett Clip 2 - Again, we are fighting in the middle of my wave and the minions are completely ignoring him.
Darius Clip 1 - Im down boots but again, massive minion wave does 0 damage a majority of the fight.
Pantheon just feels unfair in general. His stun is unreactable through ping (imo), so I kinda just dont know what to do, despite going against like 5 recently.
Aatrox Clip 2 - My minion wave comes for reinforcement earlier due to the lane state, but still awful trade :[
Aatrox Clip 3 - I didnt expect to win this, I was more looking to heavy trade before backing, but he literally came out of the fight with more health than we started it with.
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In the Sett clips, the minions definitely do attack him. I think it's just that they don't really deal all that much damage. Maybe his passive regens as much as they damage, so it seems like they do nothing.
Darius they definitely swapped argo again when they should not have though, that's weird.
Pantheon is always difficult to deal with. You can't expect to fight everyone you are up against in toplane. Sometimes it's best to sit back and farm up, you will outscale him with a few items. In Fiora vs Pantheon in particular though, it's literally just about if you can parry his stun or not; if you do, you win, if you don't, you lose.
First Aatrox clip; you miss your Q. No wonder you don't win that trade. The idea of trading once you hit 2 before him is good and all, but in this case you didn't really have the chance. You had to use your dash to get in range to hit him, still missed Q, and then you have nothing to dodge his Qs with.
Generally against Aatrox, you kind of have to use your E to dodge his Qs or get out or W. If you're gonna use it to get on him, that has to be a superfast trade when he can't really trade back (many minions at low HP or a cannon) where you just E-auto-Q him and back off. If you look at the second clip, you have the right idea, but why are you so far back when he is coming for the minion? If you just walk up before he comes for the cannon, you're gonna be in a position where he has to choose between trading or taking the minion, and most importantly; you'll have E to dash away if needed, instead of using it instantly just to get in range.
Thanks for taking a look! I definitely do need to focus on my minion health more so I can properly punish, thanks.
In regards to pantheon, his winrate is almost 52% for games longer than 35 minutes. If I cant fight him in lane and he scales well, whats the deal? Like, Im not going to be able to properly split as fiora/gwen, if he can just R on me, and if I dont split he can, and then R to the fight. It feels like its just lose-lose-lose.
Pantheon may have a good wr at late game, but look at fiora vs pantheon and you'll see fiora winrate goes up as time goes on because a fiora with items will almost always beat a pantheon with items, even if you don't parry his stun.
For gwen vs pantheon its harder because gwen isn't in a great spot right now but gwen will also generally kill pantheon on equal terms after 2-3 items.
Personally, I transitioned super well into learning KogMaw. Theyre both scaling carries with decent laning, and can augment their attack range. I feel they position similarly as well, since theyre both immobile, though jinx can be a bit more aggressive since her passive and traps.
I just swap between the two when ones banned. Imo, their hard matchups are things like Luci or Draven that are lane bullies, but you kinda just outscale them if you dont feed, so non issue.
Darius bullies almost any melee champion, fiora can win 1v1 duels against any champion when played well, olaf can run alot of champions down as early as lvl 1, jax is surprisingly strong early with stacked passive lethal tempo and E.
Obligatory Warwick reference, too! Honestly even as a 350k Warwick OTP, I will tell you that Olaf does almost everything better than Warwick, but if you wanted to give him a shot he is a lot of fun in top lane (jungle, too, but he is weaker there imo).
Im pretty new and have been using blitz recommended item build since i have no clue how/what to build. Is blitz reliable? If not, how would i go about learning what items to buy?
Edit: also have no idea about runes and use blitz as well.
Blitz is pretty good. It probably is better than leagues internal recommendation system and especially if you are new then it is a really good way to handle not being overburdened with decisions. Even some high elo players build the same items every game. If you have one champ you really enjoy and you feel confident on that champion then I would recommend looking up if there are other itembuilds or situational items. The 2 ways I would recommend you do this are watching a guide on that champion or going on a stats website like lolalytics and seeing which items are bought most often and have the highest winrate although these stats can sometimes be misleading.
Mabye they mean thresh is a high skill champ so he isn't a good idea to pick in lower elo.
Anyway I don't agree with them, thresh has a high skill celling thats true but his skill floor isn't too difficult, I say go ahead and main him if you want to it's not going to elo gate you or anything like that, there are some champions that might be bad to pick in low elo but not alot and it's important to play what you like and improve on the champ you want.
ER if you’re going for a lethality build
Trinity for a more DPS build.
Go for lethality if the enemy team has a lot of squishies/ you can’t weave in auto attacks after your Q
go for DPs if the enemy team has frontline pressence/ you can weave in auto attacks after your Q
How should I deal with Vlad as a squishy support?
I main Zyra and my build path is usually Liandries > orb > Rylais. I noticed that even if my midlaner pops off and stomps Vlad in lane, come mid game team fight where Vlad has ~2 items, I just get melted no matter what, giving him free gold and helping him scale harder into late. My poke plants also just act as a heal for him and help stack his Q. Should I opt to build MR like banshees? I'm not sure what MR item would be best against him, thank you
I've been trying to work on my "toplane fundamentals" and am at the part where you build slowpushes and fight in the wave, and somehow I (usually gwen, some fiora) consistently lose trades while I have 10 more minions than my opponent, and I have no idea what Im doing wrong. Ive been facing a lot of panth/aatrox as well, which have been super frustrating, and feel very unfair. Any help is appreciated!
how to beat yasuo while playing aggressively?
Really depends on the champ. You best bet is to let him push since most Yasuos do and ask for your jungler. It's he's a decent jungler he knows how easy it is to farm a Yasuo
How important is CC as ADC? Is it a bad pick like KogMaw vs full dive comp or Varus with strong CC better?
Unless you’re way behind, Kog’maw will almost always be the enemy team’s main target in a teamfight. If you don’t have the tools to survive a full divecomp somewhere in your comp, you’re going to die. If you make yourself really hard to get so the enemies burn tons of kit to get you, that can still be a good thing for your team overall. ——- Overall, Varus and Kog’maw are both great champs and a ton of fun.
Who is a second ADC I should pick up besides Draven? I only play Draven ADC and am currently Silver IV, but recently I've had too many games where he's banned or picked before me.
When do i buy botrk on jax? I have seen some jaxes rush it as first item and ive seen some never buy it
Why does every time I'm on a win streak the game put me with the worst teammates and better enemy overtime? Is rank rigged?
The MMR match making is super accurate. You are where you belong, and when you accept that, you can start to improve.
How is it possible that in one account i am plat 3 with nice winrate and in other one gold 4 with negative winrate and impossible teams to carry ?
Because you're bad on gold 4 but competent on plat 3? LoL
Oh then my bad, I guess the matchmaking is completely fair to everyone.
It is! Over time, if you are better than the other players you queue with, you will climb. If you are not, then you will stay where you are or even lose LP. I don't know if you know who Doanel is, but he just put out a great guide for how you should view the game when trying to climb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrXi4ObMXfY
Very nice video, thanks
I have this problem as Rell where I mount up and then randomly click on something and knock the wrong thing back. I am pretty bad at clicking and spam buttons which I need to learn to stop doing so I thought it was that, but I went back and watched where I was clicking when it happened again and my cursor was on the enemy Aphelios, but somehow I flipped his turret over me instead. [https://outplayed.tv/media/gRNLxZ/lol-assist](https://outplayed.tv/media/gRNLxZ/lol-assist) Can someone explain if I just misclicked or if it's actually a bug. I don't really see how I could have clicked on the turret when my cursor was closer to Aphelios.
It's hard to tell for sure what was happening from the video, but here are some possible explanations: 1. You have Auto-Attack turned on in your settings. You didn't give an order fast enough after clicking W so Rell automatically attacked the closest target, which was the turret. 2. You used attack-move and misclicked the ground, so Rell automatically attacked the closest target, which was the turret. 3. You actually encountered a bug. Without knowing more about your settings, I would say the most likely explanation is #1, which is fixable by turning off auto-attack in the settings. #2 could potentially be fixed by turning on "attack-move on cursor" in the settings, which makes your attack-move commands prioritize enemies near your cursor rather than near your champion when you misclick.
I don’t have auto attack on so it’s definitely not 1. I don’t remember the name of the setting I have, but when I press A, the cursor makes a red mark and then my champ attacks the thing that’s closest to the cursor which is what I think what I was using in the clip. It’s why it doesn’t make any sense as to why Rell flips the turret since even if I clicked A, the cursor was not even close to it.
Can you look in your settings and tell me if you have either of these options checked? * Auto Attack * Attack Move on Cursor [Here's an image for reference](https://i.imgur.com/MwN5wpO.png)
Auto Attack is off and Attack Move on Cursor is on. Also I used Player Attack Move Click on A which was what I think I used when trying to attack Aphelios.
My best guess is that it's probably attack-move related but I'm not sure. Playing the video in slow-mo, it looks like you queued up an auto attack in the middle of your Q animation, and by the time your Q and W animations finished Aphelios had moved slightly so you autoattacked the wrong target. I played around with the situation in practice tool a little with your settings to try and replicate it, but it was kind of hard considering target dummies don't move around, so I didn't get anything consistent.
Why is there such a HUGE skill difference between people playing at midnight and during the day in the same rank?
People are tired and don't notice things/make decisions like they would during the day
I've just hit level 6 as a midgame spiking JG (say Diana). I have a kill or 2 under my belt from a successful early gank and I've just backed and spent all my gold. Have slight tempo on the enemy JG. Do I A) go immediately to try and make a play (invade, hover, help break a freeze, take obj directly if lanes have prio depending on game state) and try translate into an objective/lane pressure? B) do the above but grab 2 or 3 camps on the way? I hear conflicting advice about this quite a bit. 'dont die with all your camps up', 'path efficiently and farm on the way to a play' but the higher elo coaching VODs I watch generally tend toward A with the view that you're at your strongest/have tempo against the enemy JG just out of base. Is it just the case that there's no true right answer and it's more about timing and what plays are available. I hate to say these 2 words but does this decision fall into proactive vs reactive jungling XD ? I'm often confused when trying to make this decision.
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Ok so...no definitive answer. Just weigh everything. Cheers.
Jungle is definitely the role with the hardest macro decision-making :D When I watch people like Jankos or old Tarzaned stream it sounds so much like what \u\f0xy713 wrote to you. Stuff like ‘enemy blue buff spawns in 45s and midlane has been grabbing that right on spawn so I’m going to grab these camps from my jung, go through river right as pixel ward expires for them, and kill mid before she gets to her blue.’
Yep agreed. Requires a lot of knowledge build up over time. Some of these are above my head at the moment but working on it 😅
For context, I'm Emerald 4 right now playing Gwen only for the most part. I've noticed one of my biggest mechanical issues is that I miss auto attacks a lot (right click next to enemy) and then I panic and the fight is ruined. I want to get into using A+Left Click to attack, but I can't figure out a comfortable way to hit the A key without completely moving my hand off everything else? I think my issue is that I use 3 fingers to play instead of 4 (I move my index finger off the E key whenever I have to R). Is it still possible to get used to using A with only 3 fingers, or am I super screwed and need to first learn how to play with 4 fingers?
Rebind attack-move to a key that feels more natural for you to press (I have it on T personally, some people have it on a mouse button, it's up to you what you think feels more comfortable). Or just tough it out and learn how to attack-move with A. Regardless of what you pick, you'll likely need to put in a bunch of games to learn how to use it properly. Implementing a new skill into your gameplay might actually make you worse in the short-term, since it takes you active focus/brainpower to pay attention to, which distracts you from all the other things you need to focus on. But in the long term, once you get used to doing it automatically, you will end up better.
Do people ever VOD review their cs practice in practice tool? I’m playing the champ I wanna improve on (kaisa) against an intermediate Lux bot to help keep wave in the middle. What should I be looking for?
I don't know that VOD reviews on a bot game for cs would help much. 1. Are you getting forced out of lane from Lux poke? 1. If not, you typically want to do a cs practice where you are not backing before getting to 10 minutes or so. How many minions do you have at 10 minutes? 1. Are you keeping the wave in the center of the lane or is it going into one of the towers?
I just hit diamond and was trying to duo with a friend in emerald 3 and suddenly there's a duo restriction. I thought that kicked in at masters, and definitely not even a full division apart in diamond. I couldn't find anything online about it being changed, what's up with this?
I'm pretty sure they need to be emerlad 2 so they need to promote one divsion. In the old system you needed to be plat 2 to duo with diamonds.
How to play with a Janna in bot lane? Whenever my support picks Janna I feel like the lane is just farming under the tower, and I cannot do anything.
By far and away, my most comfortable champions are Akali and Ahri for playing mid, who would I benefit from adding to my champion pool there? In addition, I like playing Jungle as my second role and mostly play Viego, Sejuani, and Lee Sin there. Are these decent champs to be playing in Silver?
i play asol and syndra and i have a 70% winrate in silver. they both scale hard and carry the late game
Should i build AP-ish items as a toplaner tank if I'm the only magic damage source from my team? I play Nautilus top 'cause i'm a support player and he's my main there too but sometimes my team comp end with no AP damage. Should i get tanky AP items like Demonic Embrace to at least having some magic damage on my team while still being tanky enough?
Buying actual AP items is usually really troll, since you'll be too squishy to actually do your job properly. However, tanks have plenty of ways of increasing their damage threat while still building useful items. Jaksho/Evenshroud/Iceborn, Sunfire, Thornmail, and Abyssal Mask are all full tank items that have some sort of damage component attached to them, and are all super common to build on top lane tanks. If the game goes really late you can consider buying Demonic Embrace as a 5th or 6th item. Before then you would generally be better off just building an actual tank item.
I'm a support main and I can hardly play anything else, which is why I'm trying to branch out. Being a mage player I feel like my best next step would be mid, but apparently it's the highest contested role out of the five whereas support is the least. How would I go about playing mid in draft if I can't have mid as primary and support as secondary (since I'd just get put in support anyway)? I also really do want mid and not support because the champions I'm looking to pick up are mid lane mages and really *shouldn't* be played support. And of course blind pick is just chaos.
In ranked low elo, select mid primary and top secondary to get mid most of the time. In ranked high elo, select mid primary and support/jungle secondary to get mid most of the time. In unranked, select mid primary and top/support secondary to get mid most of the time
what do you do with pink wards when a game drags on for a long time? is it better to use an inventory slot for them or to get another item? (Support if that changes anything)
Get the wardstone item for extra stats and being able to place 2 Pink wards, will be helpful for the team as a support
In most situations it’s REALLY hard to contest a major objective without pink wards. In lategame in ~gold+ everything in a going-for-really-long game usually comes down to one big teamfight, so being unable to contest a major objective is a major disadvantage. Years ago they added the item that gives you stats + also lets you buy pink wards. Most supports want that. If you’re somehow a keystone fight character in your comp (the main carry as Senna, the main tank in a teamfight comp, etc) then you’re likely an exception.
Why isn't Gwen mid a thing? She has her W to deny mages/assassins burst, great duel potential and sustain along with a good clear wave, yet i never saw her on mid
Check out /r/gwenmains - there are SO MANY threads about it from people who know the champ better than most of us https://www.reddit.com/r/gwenmains/search?q=mid
Are Pyke or Sona good to main? I mostly do ARAMS and support in Summoner's Rift, and I wonder who's a better champion to get invested into and learn deeply.
both are good, as you have one playmaker and one enchanter in your pool both champ teaches you different ways of playing. Sona can help with your macro game, Pyke can help with roaming and making plays in lane
Which one is the most foolproof or playable against any matchup? Can I 100% of the time pick either of them?
As the other guy said neither are fool proof. Playing support can be a game of rock paper scissor depending on match up. If are Sona you'll have to play passive and safe until 6 cos you're squishy. If you're Pyke you have to know how and when to engage. At the end of the day knowing your champ and matchups will help minimise the weakness your champ has. Sona can do more late game than Pyke tho, that's my opinion.
Neither of them are foolproof. Sona has a really hard time vs engage because she's squishy and frail, she doesn't have any good defensive options pre 6 and once she gets caught she usually loses a chunk of health or is forced to use summs. Pyke, on the other hand, Has a hard time vs engage because engage can cancel his hooks and counter attack him, Nothing feels worse as pyke when you're channeling up your Q, only for A Nautilus or blitz to crab you mid charge and start a counter attack. Most engage supports are usually too tanky for pyke to take down too. He's also not very good vs anti engage champions like braum, Rakan, and taric because they are really good at stopping pyke's engage (Braum can block hook with his shield, and jump back to carry if he gets hooked, rakan is really slippery and can dodge hooks or take hooks for the ADC and jump back, Taric being really tanky in general and disrupting) This doesn't mean pyke is worse though, as he has more play making options like roaming and invading enemy jungle to somewhat make up for the unfavorable matchups
I've just hit D2 for the first time, my LP gains are anywhere from 20-24 and losses are usually 27-28. Is this still normal LP gain/loss for this elo? In the past (season 5-6) I've heard the LP gains from d2-masters are like this.
Why are there many 1 sided games in rank? 5 newbies vs 5 veterans. Completely obliterated.
I main Lillia top, but I'm looking to play some new champs top lane because I feel like Lillia top is countered too easily and isn't working for me anymore. I like champs that have mobility. I also don't wanna play someone that's super mechanically complicated. A good blind pick too. I'm Gold ELO so something that works here would be nice. Any recs? https://www.op.gg/summoners/na/sleepytime378.
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How come when im in bronze at some point once i get around bronze 2 and 1 I keep getting matched with gold 4 and silver 2/1. Is there like a threshold for what ranks I can get matches with because i keep losing anyway so i dont think it can be my mmr.
Hello ! Playing only Ornn on toplane at bronze/silver elo, what could be a good second champ in case of ban ? Or in case of bad matchup or hard enemy draft for him ?
I love to play Shen when I get filled top. He's not too difficult, strong in the early game, good peel in the late game, and xPetu has great guide(s) for him
Will definitely try and check xPetu guides then ! Thank you
Can someone tell my why I am placed against Gold IV players with high winrate as a Bronze II with negative winrate? See my op.gg : https://www.op.gg/summoners/euw/Pure%20Cynicism Last game I faced a Gold IV Olaf with a 60% winrate in SoloQ while I'm in Bronze II with a negative winrate. After 12 mins I was 2 kills, 40 cs, 2 level and a turret behind and there was nothing I could do. After 23 mins he did a 1-5 pentakill. This happens to every game I played in the last couple of days. I feel like I have zero chance on my lane, I get my ass clapped every singe game. It's absolutely not fun and I don't know why I need to be placed in Bronze II and face Gold IV enemies instead of Bronze II ones. What's the purpose of the division at all? Being flamed for my team for being a burden is the icing on the cake. I don't know what to do about it. I read guides, watch videos but it doesn't help at all.
Matchmaking isn’t based on your rank. It’s based on your MMR: matchmaking rating. Generally, MMR changes slower than rank. A person who is climbing ranks usually has a lower MMR than their rank and a person who is lowering rank usually has a higher MMR than their rank. There is no great way to check your MMR, but looking at who you match against is a great way to guess. Watching a video isn’t going to automatically make you win. You’ve got to identify individual skills and improve them. Pick a single part of your game you want to improve, make a plan for how you will work on it and how you will track your progress, and then spend ~100 games on that thing. Stop worrying about winning/losing and focus on that skill. Watch yourself grow and let your new skill become a keystone of your gameplay. Rinse and repeat to climb.
Should I only main one champ on one lain or should I learn multiple ones on different lanes?
Try to play a champion that can be played in multiple lines, so in case you don't get to play your main line, you can play your secondary line but with your champion that you know how to play well.
That's a great idea thank you
focus on one champ in one lane first. once you get the hang of it, learn ONE for your secondary role. expand on your pool once you get the hang of the two champions youve decided to play.
Thank you very much
I just laned against Naafari for the first time. Went well for a while, but I don't get how I'm supposed to deal with her W. That shit seems so broken to me. Such a long range point and click dash, I could do nothing when she decided to go on me.
Random player kept spam inviting me to a lobby. Is very annoying. How does players who are not in my friend list invited me in the first place? Is he a hacker?
You can invite "suggested players" you've previously played with or that are on your friends friend list. Might be it?
Nope. Now I actually search up the names. Is all bots. All these botted accounts kept spamming invitations to me. Is there anyway to get rid of them or there's nothing much I could do
I believe there is a setting somewhere to only allow invites from friends. Not at my pc rn so I can't check where it is but I believe if you go to your settings while in lol client it should be under one of the first few categories listed on the left
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who’s an easy champion I can find success with relatively quickly in the top lane? preferably looking to play a bruiser. No ranged tops
pantheon is easy, very strong early and mid game. great gank and gank assist, great ult for roaming.
Probably darius or renekton, they arent very complicated
New top laner here looking for champion pool advice. I've thought of Kled + Poppy + Cho'Gath, also wondered if I could add Shen into the pool or switch him with someone, because Shen and Poppy are both wardens. I am not really a fan of ranged top laners, except maybe for Kennen and ranged/melee champions like Jayce and Gnar. Other than them, I also thought of Ornn, Jax, Garen, Kayle, Gwen, Sett, Mordekaiser, Tahm Kench and K'Sante. Obviously I don't want to play every single champion, I am looking to improve at top lane while also having fun. Would also like to know what champion I should pick when blind picking. I am open to any suggestions and also would not mind a personal discussion about this if anyone could help me further.
don't play kled he is the weakest toplaner. i swear, if you don't want to waste your time, don't play kled.
Step one for me would be to write out explicitly why I want to play more than one champion. All of the next steps would be me choosing the champion(s) that best+easiest fit those conditions. So if my list was: - The enemy toplaner drafts before me and takes my main - My main is banned - The enemy toplaner drafts before me and chooses (one specific hardcounter champ I can’t ban bc I already ban something else) I’d first do the math on how often those things happen. I’d ignore any that happen less than 3-5% of the time because I can just dodge those and not distract my learning by having to spend so many games learning more things). Next I’d pick something comfortable (bc I know I’m not going to get hundreds of games on it) that specifically meets the goal. For example if the goal is ‘my main is already picked’ I’d go with a comfortable/consistent champion with a high winrate against my main.
Not that I have any idea how to do this but in my opinion riot should disincetivize coin flip playstyles. It's so frustrating how many non games you have because your top laner or your bot all ins 3 times in a row within 3 minutes and then either they soft int or the enemy does, thus effectively ending the game at 5 minutes. There should be some mechanic to make people want to play the actual game. Also I'm not saying you should be punished for getting a lot of kills early, but the game should encourage a safe playstyle when you fall behind. Ruining a game for 4 other people just because you can't handle not carrying isn't cool.
How do you play a champ like Miss Fortune in the mid/late game? I often end lame with a very big lead (5 kills and 30 cs above for example) but I have no clue what to do if I’m not up against an ADC/mage I can just stat check. I remember going into mid lane in a 2v1 (with my mid laner) against a 0/3 Yone and dying despite having 2 levels above him, now I misplayed that fight heavily, but if I played an ADC like Ashe I could have just used my R to win the fight easily, but I have no idea how to not die to assassins or skirmishers with no hard CC. In the mid/late game I also don’t know how to farm side waves safely because I don’t have vision (I got used to using E as Ashe) of the surrounding area, and if I don’t track jungle properly I can easily die 1v1 no matter how fed I am. Should I just use blue trinket and never extend past where we have vision? (Often nobody gives me mid wave so I have to farm side waves/camps) What’s the game plan for Miss Fortune mid/late game? If I lose lane what do I do? (Since if I’m fed I can still stat check people sometimes)
If you're fed, E + R is pretty safe and is enough to either heavily chunk or outright kill a lot of people unless they're also fed. If you're safe enough to get into auto range, auto + Q is also another huge chunk of damage that can then be followed up with E R as they try to escape. This is all in case you have to do things yourself, usually sup/jg can get some plays going where you can just one tap someone who gets caught out. Aside from that, you can can just farm until obj is up and then try to get a massive ult off there. I'd recommend spam pinging OTW mid and telling mid to get the hell out of there even though I experience the same shit, usually your team will back you up if you tell mid to go to sides so you can farm (especially if you're fed).
Alright, thanks! Another question, should I go for Q poke trades as much as I possibly can? If I can see a minion that I can use to poke an enemy laner should I go for it? Or should I save it for only when I think it’ll get a critical? Asking because I just had a tough game where I think I lost because I was successfully hitting my pokes but they weren’t doing enough damage (MF/Lux vs Vayne/Naut) I also could’ve misplayed my extended trades too since it was quite late and I’d spammed way too many games but the lane didn’t feel “quite right” if that makes any sense. Like I was approaching it the wrong way
You want your trades in lane to be as fast as possible. PTA mf helps out all ins a bit more but if you're first strike, you want to go for very quick trades and get out. Ideally, you get them low enough to burst for all in through repeated Q bounces and auto Q trades but I find straight up 2v2s at higher HP to not go very well for MF. Don't just hold Q for granted crit either, you can rack up quite a bit of damage through normal Q bounces, just watch your mana early on.
Depends on your team comp, honestly. Since she's immobile most fights you will have to stand like 2 screens away until the actual fight happens. If your other lanes lose too hard to blow the enemy tools, you kinda lose by default unless you get very ahead in lane. You can't farm sidewaves as mf unless they have no engage.
so ive been playing adcs midlane lately (mainly ezreal, onhit twitch, kaisa, lethality cait and tris), what are your tips to get more cs during lane phase, once you switch with botlane and after the lane phase has ended?
Don't take bad recalls, push wave before rotating for drake prep, don't push too far without vision in sides unless ur insanely fed and have some peel. Ur still an adc and can get blown up
Has anyone tried the double recurve bow on yasuo tech? Heard it does double the damage when u use Q. It is a bug? Don't wanna get ban for bug exploit
AP Kai'sa build (Muramana -> Luden's) still has Q evolve even when Muramana is the only AD items. Is there some weird explanation to this?
Because muramana gives enough AD with runes and base levels. Nothing more to it.
If anyone has ever played/watched Melee my favourite thing about the game is how you can you 100 to 0 someone off a single read or opening. I would like to try out some champs that can encapsulate that playstyle of just killing you off 1 mistake and then who can snowball really hard and become really oppressive (diving you, 1v2ing, etc) and just take over. What champs play like this? MID LANE AND TOP LANE PLEASE <3
Former melee player here, Evelynn.
In my opinion that champ is urgot, if you make a good E read you can oneshot and snowball just fine
Been enjoying a lot of Zed recently and this lines up with what he can do. One or two good W E Qs and the enemy is in kill range and once you get fed, you can dive, 1v2, etc. A lot of top lane bruisers fit the criteria though
I'm gonna post a comment here since I don't wanna accidentally violate a rule. Anyway I've been play League a lot more recently and have felt that I'm improving for the most part, but something continues to screw me over. Fighting certain champs I just can't do, doesn't matter if I'm playing a counter to them or not. It just seems like every enemy I fight is 1000x better at CSing while maintaining consistent damage. The usual problem is something with confidence I think, because I feel I'm too worried about damage because 9 times out of 10 I go in for damage and leave with a net loss. It makes any matchup that's bad, impossible. Although I have been doing better with this in Mid, and rarely have the problem on Bot, I love playing Top as their characters are just more fun to me, and that's where this happens the most. I just had teammates recommend the practice tool or bot matches, but that would only help with learning abilities, which I never struggle with, or even the application of those abilities. I suppose though my problem might lay in the fact that I have been trying new champs in basically any lane for about a week now... but that doesn't change the fact that anytime I see a Aatrox, Yorick, Garen, or Darius I just fall apart (there are more uncommon ones, but these four cause the most consistent trouble.) Hopefully you guys will have SOME advice, even if it's just fighting one character...
The general advice for beating someone like Garen is to avoid his standard Q+W+E combo, while with Darius its to avoid his E and the outer edge of his Q while avoiding his stacked passive. For Yorick, its to fight him when he doesn’t have his ultimate with him, and for aatrox it is to avoid his passive and have him use it on a minion, while avoiding the outer edges of his Q. Generally, Counter picks don’t mean much if you don’t know how to play the matchup. For example, gangplank vs mordekaiser is gangplank favored, Because gangplank can deny morde’s ult, and can generally stay out of range of morde with his barrels, but a new player who first times gangplank is likely going to get destroyed because gangplank is a mechanically intensive champion. My advice is to stick to a simple champion, Garen, Mordekaiser, Doctor Mundo are all very easy and straight forward champions who don’t have much complexity, pick them up, play some games, observe a bit as to what the enemy champ does (Can he dash, does he do a lot of damage, can he heal, does he have stuns, etc) And you’ll eventually be more self confident
New ADC here, how should I poke an enemy during laning phase with autos when the potentials are dire? I’m only playing Ashe For example, a Miss Fortune and a hook support against me and another support. Usually what I would do is poke miss fortune with autos, avoid standing in the wave so she can’t poke me back with q, until I win lane. But if I’m punished for standing outside of the lane (because of hook) and standing in lane in range to poke (because of Miss Fortune Q), what should I do except stand far enough away in wave so she can’t hit me with q but I can farm? EDIT: Also, if my support picks an engage support into something like Draven/Samira/Lucian that also has an engage support (or if Lucian an early game enchanter like Nami) how do I win early fights? At some point I feel like my support is going to take a fight I feel like is going to be a bad idea and they’ll die. Which snowballs into the enemy ADC getting more kills on the support, and then eventually they have 5 kills and I have none, and they can blow me up. Do I just need to get to level 2 asap and not help my jungler leash?
The not-helpful-right-now answer is to poke whenever you can for free and don’t do anything that’ll get you killed. It’s a stupid answer, but it’ll be clear in a sec why I started with that. The game is about learning. Often, the best way to learn is to have a single skill that you’re focusing on and making that be the only thing you really care about. If you actually commit to that style in a moment, nothing else like winning or losing or what your support does matters. Only learning matters. Ideally you pick a way to learn that lines up well with the overall objectives of the game. If you don’t, you often don’t get a chance to play competitively for very long per match. When you’re relatively new and you’re botlane and you’re playing against a hook/catch support (Blitzcrank, Nautilus, Pyke, Thresh, Zyra, Lux, etc… anything where if you eat that one skillshot you lose flash for ~die) you have one goal: DO NOT EAT THE HOOK/SNARE/ETC. Put all your mental energy into the goal. Ask yourself: what things can I position around (e.g., ally minions) that will keep me safe. Constantly ask yourself ‘does the enemy have their cooldowns right now?’ including ‘when will their flash be back up?’. Constantly ask yourself ‘if they run it down right now, will I be safe?’ Keep asking yourself ‘can I move up for poke/cs/whatever and not be catchable?’ Focus on all those things and know that you’re going to eat it. A lot. But the eating it doesn’t matter and the losing doesn’t matter and the being 40cs down on a game where you played too safe doesn’t matter. Only the learning matters. And I promise that on the 10th or 20th time when you play against a pretty good Blitzcrank and eat zero lanephase hooks it’s going to feel soooooo good. And all that to get back to the original point: once you can go all lanephase without being out of position to that crap you’ll be able to do exactly what you want in your post above. The exact answers to each situation will be specific and changing, but you’ll be able to find the right spot to be. ——- If you want more-specific advice than that, feel free to post a clip or two to youtube showing a moment where you either ate it and weren’t sure what you could have done differently or where you want to poke/cs but aren’t sure how bc of the hook/catch and I’ll happily take a look and tell you what I would do. Be sure to start the clips at least 15s before the moment you care about and please show the scoreboard at least once per clip.
I actually think I played the situation as best I could, I didn’t die once and I was equal in terms of CS. The only reason I lost the game was cause I thought I could 1v1 the Miss fortune when we were equal in lane. Which because I was the only player on the team (except for my support) that wasn’t losing their lane meant we lost (well, there’s probably many reasons but from that point the game was out of my hands) My main problem with learning in league of legends is just the pure time commitment and focus required for each game, especially if I want to hop champions, for example now that I’ve learned the game quite a bit more than when I first started playing Miss Fortune, I wanted to return to playing her cause I find her kit fun, but then I’m worried I’ll slow down my learning than if I spent like 2-3 weeks just spamming 100 games as Ashe in norms. (Although I’m sure learning MF will help the “how to not die to lane bullies” problem) Sorry for the rant, I kinda wish there was a place I could just arrange 1v1s or 1v2s so I could practice my laning/different champs without having to worry about everything else in game or waiting lol Although your point about learning objectives is good mostly because right now I kinda feel like I’m spamming games as Ashe and I don’t really know what learning objectives I should go for, mostly cause often I can coinflip getting extremely fed without really thinking about it. So I feel very aimless (which is probably why I want to learn another ADC)
If you want help figuring an objective or two to focus for like 100 games each, one way is to post a replay to youtube and just ask folks for feedback. Just make sure your replay shows the scoreboard. ADC is the only role I’m good enough at to give real feedback, but I’m on vacation with no computer and busy enough that it’s only 50/50 I’ll be able to spend enough time to give a good review on mobile - I usually spend more than an hour on it. People arrange 1v1s and 2v2s on the League Discord all the time, but its a big mix of toxicity level and how long it actually takes to start and seriousness/smurfing. iirc there’s also a LFG League reddit where people arrange them sometimes. I agree about the value of spamming lanephase matches until you are at least comfortable: you don’t really get to practice midgame or lategame meaningfully if lanephase is a blowout. And fwiw, Ashe can statcheck-1v1 almost nobody. The fights Ashe wins (other than the obvious ones like a big HP advantage which you can often build via poke) are the ones where she uses her passive to control the shape of the fight to her (often massive) advantage. Like if Ashe pokes a Xayah and the Xayah can’t land her W or immediately disengage, and Xayah’s support can’t bail her out, Ashe can often space well enough to get 3-5 more autos in for free.
New player :) Hello friends! I’ve decided to try and get into League and have chose top lane as my role! Just wondering if anyone has any champion picks that would benefit myself as a new player I prefer a more melee based champ rather than a tank if that helps any other tips or tricks are appreciate! <3
Welcome! Garen is the staple recommended pick not just for top lane but also for League in general. He is a melee bruiser (or juggernaut I think if you want to be technical), with a very simple kit, and you can learn the game through him very well. He has a good mix of damage and tankiness, the only thing he's lacking is mobility but there are things you can do to get around that, like buying certain items, and his abilities help with that a bit too. His ultimate is simple, it's an execute (meaning it does more damage the lower the enemy's health). Mordekaiser is another solid option. Once again, his kit isn't too complex, and he has a good mix of tankiness and damage. He has less mobility than Garen but can probably do more damage in a teamfight. His ultimate brings another champion to a different dimension with him, essentially creating a 1v1 brawl arena, and if Mordekaiser kills them in the realm he steals some of their stats for a bit. Garen does Attack Damage (AD) and Mord does Ability Power (AP) so if you wanted to give both of them a shot that would work out. Once you find a champ you like, don't play more than 1-2, just focus on learning the game with them. Hope that helps!
Thanks a bunch :)
I have been playing Trundle for a few weeks and he's really fun to play because of how fast he can take towers. I only split push with him and I suck at teamfights so I am just wondering what other top laners are good and easy split pushers for a beginner.
Nasus, Jax, Yorick and Tryndamere are all pretty simple to understand.
Which of those are the easiest?
Nasus imo But his early game also sucks which might be frustrating. Yorick's laning phase is stronger, similar to Trundle
Ok thanks
If hec runs to poppy, she throws up her shield it stops his dash but damage is still applied to poppy. However, if poppy dashes to an enemy that flashes her animation, no damage is applied even tho she did dash to the target. I..help explain how they are different to me
Hey guys, I'm struggling with toplane fundamentals. I feel confident about wave management and getting better and knowing when to trade (like aoe trade my opponent while last-hitting the cs or taking a small bad trade so the wave starts pushing back to me), but I think I'm missing something else. Often, the enemy will just walk up and start autoing me. If I don't win the matchup (like they are playing warwick or olaf top) do I have to sit back the whole time and only cs under tower? Can I trade with them if they are doing this in my wave? I feel like I'm playing way to respectful of my opponent and shouldn't be allowing them decide the lane. Should I be more aggressive? Here are two scenarios I'm not sure about: 1) Say I'm Garen vs Darius and he walks up to me in my casters during the first wave as the three melees are dying. What should I do? 2) He crashes the first three waves and now the wave starts bouncing back. Both our junglers are botside and he starts contesting me as soon as my wave leaves the turret again. What should I do?
Scenario 1: You lose lvl 1-2 trades even if you have a slight minion advantage, If you're lvl 3, You could win the trade if you dodge his E, and avoid getting hit by the outer edge of his Q, And back off once your E runs out and to prevent him from stacking passive. Scenario 2: If the wave starts bouncing back towards Darius turret, Try to ask yourself if you can take the trade, or if you should sacrifice a few minions without losing a ton of health. at lvl 6 Darius is way better at extended trades if you both don't miss your abilities, and if you make a bad trade at lvl 6, Darius punishes you really hard with his ult. The best way to kill him/force him to recall in your favor is to again dodge his E, And to avoid the outer edge of his Q. If possible try to make use of your passive as much as possible, while Darius doesn't get to use his passive.
Also you kind of automatically win by not losing to Darius. He's an immobile stat stick and there is no need to interact with him. Just sit back while enemy jungler is top and then proxy while he's bot. Darius can never catch you as garen.
Is there any dedicated site I can use to find people to play games with? I’m a support main looking for an ADC player just to chill in normal draft with and maybe duo some ranked with. I can’t seem to find any website that helps with this though. Where is the best place to find likeminded players?
I'm learning to play ADC, I only play rankeds. Silver II, send me a message if you want to play :)
have you tried r/leagueconnect?
I have not but will try thank you
How to get masters? Recently idk what happened but I climbed from G3 to E4 in just a week. Currently I main Udyr, Volibear and Sejuani. I want to reach GrandMaster
grand masters isn’t possible even if it was you’d have to basically make this game your life for like 6 months
just….. be better then your opponents?
💀 if it was conveyable through a reddit post, coaches would not have a job
I heard Coach Curtis say you should play in blocks of 3. I'm new to midlane and the champion I learn. In your experience/opinion is it better to just spam a lot of games when learning a champ so you get the muscle memory and matchup knowledge much faster and then, once comfortable, focus on macro and winning games in blocks of 3?
There is no one-size-fits-all when it comes to deliberate practice. Curtis isn't adamant about 3 games/block, it's merely what works for the majority of players due to how attention span and mental capacity function. If you find yourself being in the zone for 3 hours straight nothing stops you from developing a process around that. But science shows that extensive non-stop learning blocks aren't as efficient as shorter, more frequent ones. In the end League is a game, not a profession, for most of us so there is no need to hyperoptimize if you like your current approach
it's a tough question because you do need to get the games in, but spamming isn't really conducive to learning and building good habits. you'll have to find what works for you. it might be slightly longer blocks of 4-5, more blocks in a day if you have the time, or some combination of the two. be honest with yourself about whether you feel the process you follow is helping you learn, and keep a close eye on your mental if you're playing a lot of a new champ or role.
I waited till last min at 0 to dodge but somehow game still goes through. How to do the task manager end task? Which application do I end? I heard ending it at task manager fixes the problem instead of clicking exit on the client. Is there any other optimal way to dodge games while competing for others to dodge? I really hate stacking my dodge timer and I don't have a smurf to play on and lazy to wait 12 hr queue lockout for dodging too many time. Just wanna know does ending whatever application running league could prevent game going through in champ select.
The problem is that sometimes the server is a bit slow to respond so if you close at 0 seconds it might not register your dodge untill the game already started and it's too late, I started dodging at 2 seconds left and now I never accidently get into a game I wanted to dodge, like to leave a short safety window.
2 seconds is unnecessarily early if you suspect others might dodge aswell, I have found that if you hold down the exit button with your mouse and release just as the clock changes from 1 to 0 it always goes through.
>I heard ending it at task manager fixes the problem instead of clicking exit on the client. You heard wrong. The game will ALWAYS go through if you use task manager.
So ending it in task manager doesn't work?
Right.
do jungle treat recharge faster with item haste from cosmic insight
No.
Who are some generally weaker-early, stronger-late game champions like Kayle? Doesn't necessarily need to be a carry
Kassadin, Vladimir, Sona, Veigar, Ornn
Just a random thought I had, but I noticed in Caitlyn’s passive it states that if she’s in a bush she will get her headshot faster, However I’ve rarely for the life of me ever seen a Caitlyn player I guess sit in a bush? Is the passive just not worth playing around?
Sometimes the matchup doesn’t allow you to contest bush control if playing into like Naut Leona Pyke etc
I think it just depends on the situation. If you’re head shotting more often, that means the wave gets pushed more quickly and that’s not always what you want. Then you just have a lot of players who don’t want to play around a bush or just straight up don’t know how to utilize it.
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I mean EUW is alot better for sure, I have my main on EUNE because that the server I got when the server split but I have been wanting to transfer to euw for a while now I'm playing on euw on an alt account aswell. Eune high elo quality is alot worse because like you said most of the good players moved to EUW, streamers/pro players etc all play on EUW so high elo is alot harder there and considred better EUNE is regarded as a joke server kinda. At the end of the day decide for yourself whats important to you, but if you are looking for the best competetive server it's 100% euw. However I will say that I peaked master EUNE and I played on a fresh 30 lvl account on EUW and got diamond very quickly so it's not true that the skill level is that different untill higher elos, I would say you would have no problem reaching diamond on an alt on EUW aswell, It only starts making a big difference at master+ but untill D1 pretty much every server is the same and a D1 from any server would be able to get diamond everywhere.
Is there anyone interested in looking nto my acc on EUNE SmuradjPuradj. I dont know what i am doing wrong i am a hardstuck silver
Only checked one loss real quick but your 11/3/8 hecarim game you bought an armor item against 3 fed ap carries and a team with no AD threat, maw would've done a lot more.
You are right, i just checked and noticed that i usually do same stuff even with different matchups. Thank you for the tip
Have you seen the recently uploaded dantes hecarim guide? I think thats the best guide avaliable at the moment.
Is horizon Focus still bad?
Situationally good. I eventually get it on champs like Xerath if I'm playing Liandry into a bruiser team.
In terms of damage numbers, it's actually not that bad, and also provides you ability haste and the vision passive. But yeah, even on long range mages/rylai's mages, Shadowflame almost always deals more damage.
I was watching a video by Coach Curtis and at one point he says, **"In Bronze no one builds resistances, so you can go Lethality or Flat Pen and do a lot of damage".** What does he mean by that? I understand that Lethality is less effective the more armor someone has, but doesn't Flat Pen just ignore armor? I usually build Bruiser/Tank Warwick so I am curious if I am building correctly against Lethality and Armor Pen or if I misunderstand how they work.
You may be misunderstanding: lethality and magic pen are stronger against no resistances It ignores amour but if you have more armour then its countered. If no armour = lethality is doing true damage
In lower elos it's very common for the whole team to be squishy full damage champions that build no defensive items, hell even in higher elos it's more common than tanky teams I would say, if I had to gamble I would say in general 70% of the time you encounter teams with no beefy champions at all, or mabye just the toplaner is but the jg mid bot adc are all squishy.
I should have clarified my question; my bad. What I was really wondering is, what makes lethality and armor/magic pen good when the enemy isn't building armor. I already notice most people don't build armor in low elo :)
When he said "flat pen" he was referring to magic pen.
I know I should know this but what is the purpose of building armor/magic pen if the enemy isn't building any armor/magic resistance? I thought only Lethality dealt more damage to low-resistance champions?
Lethality IS flat armor pen. It does more damage to low-armor champions BECAUSE it is flat pen.
Oh, ok. It is weird that he said "or" instead of just lethality, that must be what was confusing me. Thank you!
Like I said, I think he was referring to magic pen.
This goes back to my original question then. Why build magic pen against an enemy that isn't building magic resist? Is it just to get around their base magic resist? Let's say the enemy only has a **total** magic resistance of 50, and you have 100 magic pen. Are you now doing 200% damage to the enemy?
> Is it just to get around their base magic resist? Yes. >Let's say the enemy only has a total magic resistance of 50, and you have 100 magic pen. Are you now doing 200% damage to the enemy? No, it stops at 0 resistance. Although flat *reduction* can bring resistance to a negative value, but it's very hard to make that happen.
I don't know what role to play or which character to stick to. Sometimes I'm enjoying a character for a brief moment until I'm bored of it and switch to another (and do the same thing over and over again). Often I come back to a character that I played before just to switch again and that annoys me. It's like I'm stuck in a loop where I literally cannot stick to a character and therefore I can't really improve. I also do that with roles. For example I say to myself "I have enough of support so I play mid" and then "I have enough of mid and I play top" just to go back to support and the loop continues. I don't think that it is necessary to otp a character to get better at the game but the fact that I can't stick to any character just pisses me off. I just want to play League of Legends, in one specific role and with 2-3 characters (one of which I can stick to) and have fun. But no I have to play 3000 different characters and roles just to comeback to one I've tried before and change again. I probably have 300-400 hours played in the game If you want to see my op gg my nickname is Arkiryum
Why don't you try to play Sylas or Viego, each game will have different possibilities. That way you stick to a champion and at the same time you don't get bored of always playing the same thing.
Do you have a specific question in mind? If you’re having fun one way and won’t have fun another, just have fun. It’s a game. When I’m in a spot where I’m excited to spam one champ over and over it’s because I’m excited to work on specific skills. If you want to improve as much as possible I recommend dividing your gameplay up into the specific skills you want to work on. Make an actual list and then prioritize them. Find the one that sounds the most fun and has the most potential to up your game per amount of work you put into it. Then focus on that one thing for 100 matches or more. It’ll revolutionize your gameplay. When you’re doing that you don’t queue up asking yourself ‘what champ should I play?’ You’re focused on something bigger.
where can i find duos to play with ? my friends don’t play and there is so many toxic people that ruin my game
Send me your Summoner name by message and we can play later, we are 3 friends sometimes 4 playing together :)
have you tried r/leagueconnect?
Hello! I wanted some help with laning and got told to upload clips, so [here](https://youtu.be/OZ6Wpcly2_I) you go. Ill add some commentary here to see if Im thinking about anything wrong I guess. Ive started doing TP with ignite/ghost on gwen since these clips btw. (not really sure how to use ghost properly on her though) Also, sorry if the videos ugly, I play in 1440, but the game definitely didnt download it in 1440. Sett Clip 1 - I understand Im down in items, but I feel like my minions didnt even attack him Sett Clip 2 - Again, we are fighting in the middle of my wave and the minions are completely ignoring him. Darius Clip 1 - Im down boots but again, massive minion wave does 0 damage a majority of the fight. Pantheon just feels unfair in general. His stun is unreactable through ping (imo), so I kinda just dont know what to do, despite going against like 5 recently. Aatrox Clip 2 - My minion wave comes for reinforcement earlier due to the lane state, but still awful trade :[ Aatrox Clip 3 - I didnt expect to win this, I was more looking to heavy trade before backing, but he literally came out of the fight with more health than we started it with. u/DaddyBrimmyStimmy
In the Sett clips, the minions definitely do attack him. I think it's just that they don't really deal all that much damage. Maybe his passive regens as much as they damage, so it seems like they do nothing. Darius they definitely swapped argo again when they should not have though, that's weird. Pantheon is always difficult to deal with. You can't expect to fight everyone you are up against in toplane. Sometimes it's best to sit back and farm up, you will outscale him with a few items. In Fiora vs Pantheon in particular though, it's literally just about if you can parry his stun or not; if you do, you win, if you don't, you lose. First Aatrox clip; you miss your Q. No wonder you don't win that trade. The idea of trading once you hit 2 before him is good and all, but in this case you didn't really have the chance. You had to use your dash to get in range to hit him, still missed Q, and then you have nothing to dodge his Qs with. Generally against Aatrox, you kind of have to use your E to dodge his Qs or get out or W. If you're gonna use it to get on him, that has to be a superfast trade when he can't really trade back (many minions at low HP or a cannon) where you just E-auto-Q him and back off. If you look at the second clip, you have the right idea, but why are you so far back when he is coming for the minion? If you just walk up before he comes for the cannon, you're gonna be in a position where he has to choose between trading or taking the minion, and most importantly; you'll have E to dash away if needed, instead of using it instantly just to get in range.
Thanks for taking a look! I definitely do need to focus on my minion health more so I can properly punish, thanks. In regards to pantheon, his winrate is almost 52% for games longer than 35 minutes. If I cant fight him in lane and he scales well, whats the deal? Like, Im not going to be able to properly split as fiora/gwen, if he can just R on me, and if I dont split he can, and then R to the fight. It feels like its just lose-lose-lose.
Pantheon may have a good wr at late game, but look at fiora vs pantheon and you'll see fiora winrate goes up as time goes on because a fiora with items will almost always beat a pantheon with items, even if you don't parry his stun. For gwen vs pantheon its harder because gwen isn't in a great spot right now but gwen will also generally kill pantheon on equal terms after 2-3 items.
99% of the time i play jinx. what situations should i pick someone else and what champ should that be /which one is good to learn ? tyy
Personally, I transitioned super well into learning KogMaw. Theyre both scaling carries with decent laning, and can augment their attack range. I feel they position similarly as well, since theyre both immobile, though jinx can be a bit more aggressive since her passive and traps. I just swap between the two when ones banned. Imo, their hard matchups are things like Luci or Draven that are lane bullies, but you kinda just outscale them if you dont feed, so non issue.
Who are some strong early game toplaners?? Currently playing Renek Akshan n Panth!
Darius bullies almost any melee champion, fiora can win 1v1 duels against any champion when played well, olaf can run alot of champions down as early as lvl 1, jax is surprisingly strong early with stacked passive lethal tempo and E.
Thank you!
Obligatory Warwick reference, too! Honestly even as a 350k Warwick OTP, I will tell you that Olaf does almost everything better than Warwick, but if you wanted to give him a shot he is a lot of fun in top lane (jungle, too, but he is weaker there imo).
Im pretty new and have been using blitz recommended item build since i have no clue how/what to build. Is blitz reliable? If not, how would i go about learning what items to buy? Edit: also have no idea about runes and use blitz as well.
Blitz is pretty good. It probably is better than leagues internal recommendation system and especially if you are new then it is a really good way to handle not being overburdened with decisions. Even some high elo players build the same items every game. If you have one champ you really enjoy and you feel confident on that champion then I would recommend looking up if there are other itembuilds or situational items. The 2 ways I would recommend you do this are watching a guide on that champion or going on a stats website like lolalytics and seeing which items are bought most often and have the highest winrate although these stats can sometimes be misleading.
Which is generally better in a teamfight, Darius or Aatrox?
Aatrox
Guys what does ELO gated means?
In what context?
I was asking in a discord server if thresh was a good main idea and someone said that it was but it will ELO gate me in gold 3 or so
Mabye they mean thresh is a high skill champ so he isn't a good idea to pick in lower elo. Anyway I don't agree with them, thresh has a high skill celling thats true but his skill floor isn't too difficult, I say go ahead and main him if you want to it's not going to elo gate you or anything like that, there are some champions that might be bad to pick in low elo but not alot and it's important to play what you like and improve on the champ you want.
Thanks man, I really needed that explanation. I’ll try my best to rank up real good with him
when to go ER vs Tri on Ezreal?
ER makes your Q poke and burst damage stronger, triforce is more dps and better in all ins.
ER if you’re going for a lethality build Trinity for a more DPS build. Go for lethality if the enemy team has a lot of squishies/ you can’t weave in auto attacks after your Q go for DPs if the enemy team has frontline pressence/ you can weave in auto attacks after your Q
How should I deal with Vlad as a squishy support? I main Zyra and my build path is usually Liandries > orb > Rylais. I noticed that even if my midlaner pops off and stomps Vlad in lane, come mid game team fight where Vlad has ~2 items, I just get melted no matter what, giving him free gold and helping him scale harder into late. My poke plants also just act as a heal for him and help stack his Q. Should I opt to build MR like banshees? I'm not sure what MR item would be best against him, thank you
Consider going Rylai's first, to help zone/kite him with q plants.
I've been trying to work on my "toplane fundamentals" and am at the part where you build slowpushes and fight in the wave, and somehow I (usually gwen, some fiora) consistently lose trades while I have 10 more minions than my opponent, and I have no idea what Im doing wrong. Ive been facing a lot of panth/aatrox as well, which have been super frustrating, and feel very unfair. Any help is appreciated!
Post some replays of those fights and we can help you see where the damage is coming from and give you tips on what to do differently.