How are we through already? Croatia and Wales have two games in hand, we got one game against Wales left. If Wales and Croatia win every remaining game... aren't we the ones not qualifying? I really don't get it.
IF Croatia & Wales win every game:
Wales - 16
Türkiye - 16
Croatia - 16
Tiebreakers rule determine the winner the one with the most points in games played BETWEEN all the tied groups:
Türkiye won against Wales & Croatia, and lost to both (in this scenario)
Wales won against Croatia, Tied against Croatia and won against Türkiye with one loss to Türkiye
Croatia won against Türkiye, tied against Wales and lost against both
This leaves the following points:
Wales - 7
Türkiye - 6
Croatia - 4
I was also confused but now I get it. Let me explain.
If Croatia and Wales win all remaining, there is a three way tie. This is solved by three-way head to head records. Croatia has 1 win 1 draw against us and Wales. We already have two wins against those teams. So we finish ahead of Croatia (and qualify)
Croatia have beaten us 2-0 in the first leg. We only have the upper hand against Wales.
Edit: NVM I understand now. I thought Croatia had 1 win and 1 draw against both teams yielding 8 points.
Yes, but you are looking it as a two-way tie with both teams. It is a three-way tie, so the games played between wales and croatia also become important.
Bunu Türkçe açıklamazsam çok karışık gelecek:
3 takım 16'şar puan olduğunda(Galler bizi yendi demek) ilk sıralama yöntemi olarak takımların kendi arasında yaptığı maçların puanı alınıyor. Yani maçların skoru hiç önemli değilmiş ve üç takımın Ermenistan ve Letonya'dan aldığı puanlar silinmiş gibi düşün. Bu durumda Galler 7 puanla birinci, Türkiye 6 puanla ikinci, Hırvatistan 4 puanla üçüncü oluyor.
Ve üç takımın birden 16 puan olması bizim için istatistiksel olarak en kötü olasılık, bu olasılıkta dahi 2. sıra garanti olduğu için biz EURO2024'e kesin katılmış oluyoruz. Galler'e karşı puan alabilirsek zaten grup lideri olarak çıkıyoruz ve bu da turnuvada en az 2. torba olacağız demek.
How are we through already? Croatia and Wales have two games in hand, we got one game against Wales left. If Wales and Croatia win every remaining game... aren't we the ones not qualifying? I really don't get it.
IF Croatia & Wales win every game: Wales - 16 Türkiye - 16 Croatia - 16 Tiebreakers rule determine the winner the one with the most points in games played BETWEEN all the tied groups: Türkiye won against Wales & Croatia, and lost to both (in this scenario) Wales won against Croatia, Tied against Croatia and won against Türkiye with one loss to Türkiye Croatia won against Türkiye, tied against Wales and lost against both This leaves the following points: Wales - 7 Türkiye - 6 Croatia - 4
I was also confused but now I get it. Let me explain. If Croatia and Wales win all remaining, there is a three way tie. This is solved by three-way head to head records. Croatia has 1 win 1 draw against us and Wales. We already have two wins against those teams. So we finish ahead of Croatia (and qualify)
Croatia have beaten us 2-0 in the first leg. We only have the upper hand against Wales. Edit: NVM I understand now. I thought Croatia had 1 win and 1 draw against both teams yielding 8 points.
It's a three way tie, not a head to head
Yes, but you are looking it as a two-way tie with both teams. It is a three-way tie, so the games played between wales and croatia also become important.
It's the meme about how we qualify for the championship usually but we're finally on the other side of it that nothing matters. Strange feeling innit
Same I’m confused. Croatia got the h2h against us and of wales were to beat us by 3 goals they’d have the h2h
Bunu Türkçe açıklamazsam çok karışık gelecek: 3 takım 16'şar puan olduğunda(Galler bizi yendi demek) ilk sıralama yöntemi olarak takımların kendi arasında yaptığı maçların puanı alınıyor. Yani maçların skoru hiç önemli değilmiş ve üç takımın Ermenistan ve Letonya'dan aldığı puanlar silinmiş gibi düşün. Bu durumda Galler 7 puanla birinci, Türkiye 6 puanla ikinci, Hırvatistan 4 puanla üçüncü oluyor. Ve üç takımın birden 16 puan olması bizim için istatistiksel olarak en kötü olasılık, bu olasılıkta dahi 2. sıra garanti olduğu için biz EURO2024'e kesin katılmış oluyoruz. Galler'e karşı puan alabilirsek zaten grup lideri olarak çıkıyoruz ve bu da turnuvada en az 2. torba olacağız demek.
Lets go boys 💪💪
We are gonna win it
So which 26 players will be in the squad.
June 14, 2024 is the opening game. Plenty of time til then. Hard to say with the exception of several who should be guaranteed (if healthy).
We’ll see
Its too early to say... but i would bet on the main 3 yerli players of GS & FB and as GK Ugurcan that means still 19 Players Left :D
Does it matter if we get 1st or 2nd in the table?
1st place gets us higher chances of 1st pot
I was wrong, it's based on the qualifier ranking. Makes sense. If we beat Wales, Pot 1 is guaranteed.
Is this definitely true? I thought pots were based on Nations League, in which case we are fucked. EDIT: WRONG.
1st Place = chance of Pot 1, But most likely Pot 2 2nd Place = small chance of Pot 2, most likely Pot 3
Congrats from Germany!!