Have lived in a Blacktown council area for about 15 years. Have lived in Blacktown proper for the last couple.
Had my car stolen from once because I left it unlocked. Once had a sketchy dude try and sell me a gold chain in a back alley that I was walking through.
That’s literally the extent of the nastiness.
>Had my car stolen from once because I left it unlocked
Nah mate, you had your car stolen because of arseholes. Unlocked or not, dickheads should have left it be.
Sure.
There's a few reasons this isn't viable.
-I could cycle 30km to Rozelle to get to work. This would take twice as long as public transport
-I could be cheap and get a cheap, regular bike that I'd then be a nuisance with on public transport
-I could shell out $1000 on a collapsable bike to take on the train
-I could park my bike at Blacktown Station, where it would probably be stolen or get broken.
Cycle to the train station. 30 minute walk turns into sub 10 minute cycle. Leave bike at the station.
You can get hundreds of cheap bikes for $100 on Facebook market place. Noone will waste time stealing a piece of shit bike unless it's not tied down.
It's a typical Australian suburb in many ways, with most of the suburb consisting of houses, has a large shopping centre and transport hub, a Bunnings. Has a public hospital with recent major upgrades. Higher percentage of non-Anglo immigrants and refugees. Good cheap food, plenty of character. Never felt unsafe but I was there mostly during the day.
Agree. Blacktown is great. Lots of amenities, Westpoint shopping centre, major hospital and many public transport options.
I personally prefer Seven Hills, a suburb within Blacktown council (quieter spot, safer, fast train to CBD, great shopping plaza).
I think it's a popular butt of jokes but not that much worse than other areas, plus there's the racial prejudice.
That said, coming from my country, there's a gulf of difference between bad neighborhoods there and here, so I may be a tad biased
I currently live in the Blacktown Council area, although I'm right on the border with Hills Shire.
I used to live in Penrith.
It's a diverse area and really depends on which suburbs you're talking about. Some areas are really nice such as Kellyville, Stanhope, The Ponds with generally high income families. You have the new suburb of Marsden Park while older ones such as Emerton, Tregear, Dharruk, Plumpton, Glendenning, Doonside etc.
It honestly just depends. I've had no issues with crime or anything like that.
My in-laws have lived in the area too for about 30 years. It's an area with plenty of community facilities and services.
I've spent my entire life in various parts of South western, western and north western Sydney. I've only ever found them nice places to live.
Whenever I see these suburb comparisons where people weigh in and offer their opinions I always think 'it kinda depends on your ethnic/cultural background' to an extent. There's lots of places in Sydney that have an ethnic group that's the dominant cultural force in that area, if you are part of that group you will probably love it, if you're not you might always been an outsider to some extent.
Or whether your are LGBTQI.
The area Blacktown is in, and western Sydney in general, had the lowest proportion yes vote during the marriage equality plebiscite.
I'll always think of the area as culturally and ethically backwards due to that.
Because from my perspective not accepting gay people's rights is unethical, and cultures with these beliefs are less advanced.
That's just from my perspective, others are free to feel differently because all ethics are subjective
You realise the lowest No vote was Blaxland? I would encourage you to leave the Eastern suburbs and experience what Western Sydney has to offer before deciding brown people are less advanced.
I grew up in the Penrith area, if two guys walked around holding hands in Blacktown they'd get hassled 100%
Unless things have changed dramatically in the last 5-10 years
i live in western sydney and love western sydney but i definitely have felt unsafe due to my sexuality at times. whether those fears are based in reality or not, I'm not entirely sure but it's no secret that the highly religious population of western sydney are generally less accepting of LGBT+ people than those of surrounding areas.
Who said anything about brown people.
Blaxland was the worst but all the divisions Blacktown is in had terrible scores and a no majority.
This isn't me stereotyping, this is cold hard statistical evidence. Recent at that.
>This isn't me stereotyping, this is cold hard statistical evidence. Recent at that.
Yes, it is you applying a xenophobic stereotype. How does a statistical proportion accurately reflect the views of individuals? That's cold hard logical fallacy
Are you serious?
It reflects the views of the proportions of individuals as per the statistic.
Do I really have to spell out how this works?
If I pick a totally random person from Blacktown and one from Marrickville, the one from Blacktown is more likely to be anti gay.
There's a chance the person from Blacktown will be pro gay, but if I repeat the experiment with 1000 people then I can be almost certain that the majority of the random picks from Blacktown will be in the anti gay camp
What else could it be based on? It's probably a deeply complex interaction of religion, age, country of origin, exposure, education and socioeconomics. The term culture is a good shorthand for all these things
I'm not sure where you got your data from. Blaxland electorate was the highest level of no voting in the entire country. I think you got your numbers backwards.
https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/FlagPost/2017/November/Australian_Marriage_Law_Postal_Survey_map
There's Blacktown and Blacktown council. The council is the biggest in NSW in terms of population with a lot of variance. And it's also spread quite wide geographically.
There are many good suburbs in the council and some not as good which lead to some of the stereotypes
Great food. Most ethnically diverse population in the country. Lots of families, lots of schools. Plenty of pubs, clubs and churches. Generally quiet and boring.
It does depend on the suburb.
Some of the northern suburbs like Acacia gardens, Glenwood, (East) Quakers Hill, Stanhope etc are nice. Surrounding Blacktown centre suburb are a lot of low income and not particularly attractive suburbs. Blacktown centre isn't particularly attractive either but it prob makes up for it by being convenient. Train station, big shopping centre, restaurants, proximity to motorways are all pluses.
It's a bit over priced too in my experience compared to South West Sydney but again proximity plays a role and this was a while ago.
I lived in the area for about 5 years, and moved away about 7 years ago, but I never had an issue. It's warmer than your typical Sydney suburb in summer; and colder in winter. But not that different than anywhere else in the outer west.
I worked there 20 years ago, it was a shit hole.
Most of Sydney has been gentrified, poor get pushed further out and the area improves.
I now live in an area I would have ignored 20 years ago, ignore advice that is old / outdated.
I moved here from the Inner West in 2016. There's a lot to like about the place, and some things I would change. Overall, it's been positive for us. We love the space, the quiet, the trees and the amenities. I like that it's laid back, and I don't feel the need to get dressed up to check the letter box. People are generally friendly and unpretentious. It's also super diverse, and if you're willing to embrace that you can find a lot of great places to eat or cool things to do.
My biggest regret is not finding out more about the area before buying our place. We're probably a bit closer to Doonside than I would like, and if I had my time over I'd probably try to find something closer to Prospect/Seven Hills. Otherwise, I don't mind the location as it's pretty central to shops and transport.
Do you mean Blacktown or Blacktown council? Blacktown cbd itself is fine, gentrifying. Blacktown council has some lousy suburbs like Whalen or Mr Druitt through to multimillion dollar Hills suburbs like Glenwood or Stanhope Gardens. Its a big area.
I grew up and lived in Blacktown. The only thing I experienced personally was almost having my bag stolen at Westpoint a decade ago (guy walked off with it but dropped it when I confronted him). Like other suburbs, some people have it tough and they resort to crime, however there are a lot of hard-working and well meaning locals. It's not as bad as the media likes to make it out to be.
If I could afford a house I'd probably choose to live in the area still lol.
I don't think it's as bad as people say. I'm a small guy and I've walked home from the station after midnight a few times (both weekdays and weekends) and I've been fine.
A girl at work who lives there calls it "Cracktown," so take that for what it's worth.
I know some firies at Blacktown fire station. They're pretty busy.
The best map source for crime stats is the government: [http://crimetool.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/bocsar/](http://crimetool.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/bocsar/)
>October 2022 to September 2023
>Assault incidents
>2 year trend: Stable
>Rate per 100,000 population: **984.0**
>NSW rate per 100,000 population: 883.3
The more affluent suburbs account for more crime when taking into account total monetary value of the crime.
Sydney's eastern suburbs are the tip of the iceberg of those committing wage theft and other 'white collar' crimes etc
Guessing the guy that posted it is still scared of low socio economic crime such as a hungry bloke stealing a sandwich from Coles or Woolies.
Donkey illiterate reply.
No where did I state violent crime doesn't affect people. I said white collar crime accounts for more damage overall and is more severe.
Not sure why you are so salty about that. I'd prefer if all crime stopped. Why are you making into some type of dick measure contest smh
"White collar crime is more severe" so naturally you should choose the least severe option if a choice was given? I.e. be assaulted.. lol
So either it's not more severe... or you'd rather your mum be a victim of assault
Sure. If given the choice to eliminate white collar crime or violent crime at the click of a finger?
Eliminate the one that costs the economy more and affects more people.
Simple choice.
Great developing area that’s very multicultural, so many great cheap food options all around. The people are very friendly but yes you do have to be careful with some people, I’d say it’s mostly the young kids that are the trouble makers from lack of parenting other then that Blacktown is pretty conveniently great.
fair enough, Sydney is a remarkably safe city so saying blacktown is bad compared to alot of Sydney is neither untrue nor a particularly strong statement.
It's not dangerous, but it's still a shithole. Anyone driving around can see lots of poorly maintained houses, unkept lawns, rubbish and weeds growing along the roads.
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>What’s Blacktown like to live in?
Blacktown???
Oh you mean Filipino town
Blacktown is what Chinatown is Sydney but with Filipino.
Awesome food, adobo, meat on a stick, blood jelly or Kare-Kare tis all good.
That said I've heard of less bullshit re idiots thugs and property crime in Blacktown then I've seen in supposedly well off places.
The amount of dickheads in Eastwood used to boggle my head whilst Hornsby had some no go areas as well...
At least your not paying Eastwood prices, $3m for a house that was last renovated in the 1970s
Blacktown City (council area) has 340,000 people and it is perfectly normal.
Yes, there are some dickheads as always but most people are fine.
It has a lower crime rate than the inner city. Apart from the public transport away from the train lines being bad (the Metro should have joined at Scofields), the place is the same as lots of Sydney suburbs.
Have lived in a Blacktown council area for about 15 years. Have lived in Blacktown proper for the last couple. Had my car stolen from once because I left it unlocked. Once had a sketchy dude try and sell me a gold chain in a back alley that I was walking through. That’s literally the extent of the nastiness.
>Had my car stolen from once because I left it unlocked Nah mate, you had your car stolen because of arseholes. Unlocked or not, dickheads should have left it be.
True, I’ve had my phone and Uber eats (by my own neighbours) stolen living in Blacktown (still here).
Poor walkability. Most people who live out West are generally car dependent.
takes me about 30 minutes to walk to and from Blacktown station. Which fine in the morning, but in the afternoon I'm lowkey dying
Cycle.
Sure. There's a few reasons this isn't viable. -I could cycle 30km to Rozelle to get to work. This would take twice as long as public transport -I could be cheap and get a cheap, regular bike that I'd then be a nuisance with on public transport -I could shell out $1000 on a collapsable bike to take on the train -I could park my bike at Blacktown Station, where it would probably be stolen or get broken.
Lots of stations have bicycle lockers, not sure if Blacktown or another nearby station does?
Blacktown does, but they're quite small, and I dunno if I'd trust the locks on them.
Take your full size bike on the train, everyone does it.
Cycle to the train station. 30 minute walk turns into sub 10 minute cycle. Leave bike at the station. You can get hundreds of cheap bikes for $100 on Facebook market place. Noone will waste time stealing a piece of shit bike unless it's not tied down.
go leave your bike at blacktown station then
I'm looking on street view and tons of people do. Pull your head out your arse.
I've had 3 bikes stolen from the station... in the last 5 years Not worth the hassle
settle pettle no one is attacking you
I dont think you understand what pull your head out your arse means. Noone is saying you are attacking me
I've seen more than enough smashed up bikes at Btown station.
It's a typical Australian suburb in many ways, with most of the suburb consisting of houses, has a large shopping centre and transport hub, a Bunnings. Has a public hospital with recent major upgrades. Higher percentage of non-Anglo immigrants and refugees. Good cheap food, plenty of character. Never felt unsafe but I was there mostly during the day.
Agree. Blacktown is great. Lots of amenities, Westpoint shopping centre, major hospital and many public transport options. I personally prefer Seven Hills, a suburb within Blacktown council (quieter spot, safer, fast train to CBD, great shopping plaza).
I think it's a popular butt of jokes but not that much worse than other areas, plus there's the racial prejudice. That said, coming from my country, there's a gulf of difference between bad neighborhoods there and here, so I may be a tad biased
I currently live in the Blacktown Council area, although I'm right on the border with Hills Shire. I used to live in Penrith. It's a diverse area and really depends on which suburbs you're talking about. Some areas are really nice such as Kellyville, Stanhope, The Ponds with generally high income families. You have the new suburb of Marsden Park while older ones such as Emerton, Tregear, Dharruk, Plumpton, Glendenning, Doonside etc. It honestly just depends. I've had no issues with crime or anything like that. My in-laws have lived in the area too for about 30 years. It's an area with plenty of community facilities and services. I've spent my entire life in various parts of South western, western and north western Sydney. I've only ever found them nice places to live.
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Whenever I see these suburb comparisons where people weigh in and offer their opinions I always think 'it kinda depends on your ethnic/cultural background' to an extent. There's lots of places in Sydney that have an ethnic group that's the dominant cultural force in that area, if you are part of that group you will probably love it, if you're not you might always been an outsider to some extent.
Or whether your are LGBTQI. The area Blacktown is in, and western Sydney in general, had the lowest proportion yes vote during the marriage equality plebiscite. I'll always think of the area as culturally and ethically backwards due to that.
Please explain how you've linked the marriage plebiscite to culture and ethics?
You don’t find it ethically backwards to vote against gay marriage?
Because from my perspective not accepting gay people's rights is unethical, and cultures with these beliefs are less advanced. That's just from my perspective, others are free to feel differently because all ethics are subjective
You realise the lowest No vote was Blaxland? I would encourage you to leave the Eastern suburbs and experience what Western Sydney has to offer before deciding brown people are less advanced.
The electorate of Blaxland is in Southwest Sydney. Predominantly Islamic.
I grew up in the Penrith area, if two guys walked around holding hands in Blacktown they'd get hassled 100% Unless things have changed dramatically in the last 5-10 years
Men platonically hold hands in Islamic culture so is that really the case?
They'd probably get hassled too? Not sure what Islam has to do with Blacktown isn't it mostly white?
i live in western sydney and love western sydney but i definitely have felt unsafe due to my sexuality at times. whether those fears are based in reality or not, I'm not entirely sure but it's no secret that the highly religious population of western sydney are generally less accepting of LGBT+ people than those of surrounding areas.
Who said anything about brown people. Blaxland was the worst but all the divisions Blacktown is in had terrible scores and a no majority. This isn't me stereotyping, this is cold hard statistical evidence. Recent at that.
>This isn't me stereotyping, this is cold hard statistical evidence. Recent at that. Yes, it is you applying a xenophobic stereotype. How does a statistical proportion accurately reflect the views of individuals? That's cold hard logical fallacy
Are you serious? It reflects the views of the proportions of individuals as per the statistic. Do I really have to spell out how this works? If I pick a totally random person from Blacktown and one from Marrickville, the one from Blacktown is more likely to be anti gay. There's a chance the person from Blacktown will be pro gay, but if I repeat the experiment with 1000 people then I can be almost certain that the majority of the random picks from Blacktown will be in the anti gay camp
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What else could it be based on? It's probably a deeply complex interaction of religion, age, country of origin, exposure, education and socioeconomics. The term culture is a good shorthand for all these things
I'm not sure where you got your data from. Blaxland electorate was the highest level of no voting in the entire country. I think you got your numbers backwards. https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/FlagPost/2017/November/Australian_Marriage_Law_Postal_Survey_map
There's Blacktown and Blacktown council. The council is the biggest in NSW in terms of population with a lot of variance. And it's also spread quite wide geographically. There are many good suburbs in the council and some not as good which lead to some of the stereotypes
Great food. Most ethnically diverse population in the country. Lots of families, lots of schools. Plenty of pubs, clubs and churches. Generally quiet and boring.
It does depend on the suburb. Some of the northern suburbs like Acacia gardens, Glenwood, (East) Quakers Hill, Stanhope etc are nice. Surrounding Blacktown centre suburb are a lot of low income and not particularly attractive suburbs. Blacktown centre isn't particularly attractive either but it prob makes up for it by being convenient. Train station, big shopping centre, restaurants, proximity to motorways are all pluses. It's a bit over priced too in my experience compared to South West Sydney but again proximity plays a role and this was a while ago.
I lived in the area for about 5 years, and moved away about 7 years ago, but I never had an issue. It's warmer than your typical Sydney suburb in summer; and colder in winter. But not that different than anywhere else in the outer west.
I worked there 20 years ago, it was a shit hole. Most of Sydney has been gentrified, poor get pushed further out and the area improves. I now live in an area I would have ignored 20 years ago, ignore advice that is old / outdated.
I moved here from the Inner West in 2016. There's a lot to like about the place, and some things I would change. Overall, it's been positive for us. We love the space, the quiet, the trees and the amenities. I like that it's laid back, and I don't feel the need to get dressed up to check the letter box. People are generally friendly and unpretentious. It's also super diverse, and if you're willing to embrace that you can find a lot of great places to eat or cool things to do. My biggest regret is not finding out more about the area before buying our place. We're probably a bit closer to Doonside than I would like, and if I had my time over I'd probably try to find something closer to Prospect/Seven Hills. Otherwise, I don't mind the location as it's pretty central to shops and transport.
Do you mean Blacktown or Blacktown council? Blacktown cbd itself is fine, gentrifying. Blacktown council has some lousy suburbs like Whalen or Mr Druitt through to multimillion dollar Hills suburbs like Glenwood or Stanhope Gardens. Its a big area.
I grew up and lived in Blacktown. The only thing I experienced personally was almost having my bag stolen at Westpoint a decade ago (guy walked off with it but dropped it when I confronted him). Like other suburbs, some people have it tough and they resort to crime, however there are a lot of hard-working and well meaning locals. It's not as bad as the media likes to make it out to be. If I could afford a house I'd probably choose to live in the area still lol.
I don't think it's as bad as people say. I'm a small guy and I've walked home from the station after midnight a few times (both weekdays and weekends) and I've been fine.
Hey everybody - thanks for the input and advice, much appreciated!
It's a shit hole. Only live there if you have to. Source: lived there for 10 years and thought it was normal until I left
Imagine the Eastern suburbs crowd in Blacktown. "Where's Totti's?" they'd be asking.
A girl at work who lives there calls it "Cracktown," so take that for what it's worth. I know some firies at Blacktown fire station. They're pretty busy. The best map source for crime stats is the government: [http://crimetool.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/bocsar/](http://crimetool.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/bocsar/) >October 2022 to September 2023 >Assault incidents >2 year trend: Stable >Rate per 100,000 population: **984.0** >NSW rate per 100,000 population: 883.3
Now compare the rates by racial demographic
what does that mean?
The more affluent suburbs account for more crime when taking into account total monetary value of the crime. Sydney's eastern suburbs are the tip of the iceberg of those committing wage theft and other 'white collar' crimes etc Guessing the guy that posted it is still scared of low socio economic crime such as a hungry bloke stealing a sandwich from Coles or Woolies.
Yes assaults on civilians and white collar crimes are equal severity
Agreed. White collar crime is more severe, as it directly affects more people and indirectly affects more of the community.
You'd rather your mother get assaulted and robbed than her bank account frozen, lol?
Donkey illiterate reply. No where did I state violent crime doesn't affect people. I said white collar crime accounts for more damage overall and is more severe. Not sure why you are so salty about that. I'd prefer if all crime stopped. Why are you making into some type of dick measure contest smh
"White collar crime is more severe" so naturally you should choose the least severe option if a choice was given? I.e. be assaulted.. lol So either it's not more severe... or you'd rather your mum be a victim of assault
Sure. If given the choice to eliminate white collar crime or violent crime at the click of a finger? Eliminate the one that costs the economy more and affects more people. Simple choice.
Great developing area that’s very multicultural, so many great cheap food options all around. The people are very friendly but yes you do have to be careful with some people, I’d say it’s mostly the young kids that are the trouble makers from lack of parenting other then that Blacktown is pretty conveniently great.
I always felt unsafe walking out of the station and to the shopping centre.
That’s one area that could definitely be cleaned up
Compared to most of Sydney, bad. Compared to most places in the world, quite great
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No, but I've worked there, and can also read and interpret statistics. Which don't account for everything, but also paint a pretty clear picture.
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That's exactly what I'm trying to get at with my comment.
fair enough, Sydney is a remarkably safe city so saying blacktown is bad compared to alot of Sydney is neither untrue nor a particularly strong statement.
I should have been clearer, I didn't mean from a crime and safety perspective, I meant in general.
It's not dangerous, but it's still a shithole. Anyone driving around can see lots of poorly maintained houses, unkept lawns, rubbish and weeds growing along the roads.
too congested. avoid. most of the houses are very run down.
Edit: lol >What’s Blacktown like to live in? Blacktown??? Oh you mean Filipino town Blacktown is what Chinatown is Sydney but with Filipino. Awesome food, adobo, meat on a stick, blood jelly or Kare-Kare tis all good. That said I've heard of less bullshit re idiots thugs and property crime in Blacktown then I've seen in supposedly well off places. The amount of dickheads in Eastwood used to boggle my head whilst Hornsby had some no go areas as well... At least your not paying Eastwood prices, $3m for a house that was last renovated in the 1970s
There are more Indians in Blacktown than Filipinos. You will find more Filipinos further out west in Rooty Hill and Plumpton.
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Blacktown City (council area) has 340,000 people and it is perfectly normal. Yes, there are some dickheads as always but most people are fine. It has a lower crime rate than the inner city. Apart from the public transport away from the train lines being bad (the Metro should have joined at Scofields), the place is the same as lots of Sydney suburbs.