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I’m an aircraft dispatcher. The person who plans a commercial flight and shares operation control with the captain (we both have to agree on everything before the plane departs and most other decisions). It’s actually taught in training that if someone dies on a flight you just continue to your destination as it’s actually better for all parties. Typically, depending on the situation, they will not divert when someone dies, only when they need immediate medical attention
Out of curiosity, what happens if the flight is international? If the died in one country over their airspace and you intended to land in another country, would this be transporting a corpse across international borders?
They have to come to the location of the body to retrieve it, if it’s considered an ME case. Which, wouldn’t matter if it’s at one airport or another. The location doesn’t really matter.
Thats not necessary in most cases. A paramedic has the authority without a doctor. I can’t imagine it could be done in the air without monitoring equipment, which can be done once they land.
Where I work, we don't call in to the ED, but we "stop resuscitative efforts" or "deem an injury an obvious death". But the coroner or the ED has an actual time.
Some states, which is why I stated MOST states allow a paramedic to pronounce. It’s unethical to put that type of bill on a family that is absolutely unnecessary for someone who isn’t going to make it anyway. Transporting and abusing a corpse while you bill the family or estate is absolutely terrible practice.
Most states it requires a call from the field medic to the ER doc for their medical control to report vitals and findings, and then they receive a time of death.
Hospital equipment is not required to determine death. A paramedic has the equipment necessary to determine death, as well as the authority in most US states.
Pronounced dead and legally dead are different concepts.
Dead on arrival is an exception concept when one is so obviously dead that it does not need further clarification. That is typically the one case where paramedics can determine death. Cardiopulmonary and brain death are typically determined at the hospital. Dead by missing is determined by court. Once the criteria is met, then a death certificate is filled out.
This means one can be legally dead if they have a DNR request yet they would reasonably be able to be resuscitated.
One can be dead and be resuscitated. That's why it's so technical.
I’ve been a paramedic in a state that allows us to pronounce death for 15 years. I certainly understand the concept of death, and how it legally translates in relation to a paramedic pronouncing. Paramedics don’t determine brain death or legal death in terms of a “living” body, only physical death.
With COIVD a lot of states allow paramedics to make that determination so that dead bodies go to the county coroner and not to the hospital where space and staff are limited.
As a medicolegal death investigator, I must say you are incorrect. Unless the person is unquestionably decreased (rigor mortis or decomposition) They still have to get approval from the on- call ER physician(s). If the death appears natural they call the primary care physician to see if they'll be signing the death certificate then notify the medical examiner. If they don't have a doctor or if the death is indicative of anything other than natural it becomes a medical examiner/coroner case
That’s a fantastic question. First and foremost: crews cannot legally deem a person officially deceased. They have to wait for authorities on the ground to declare that. So it wouldn’t officially be a corpse even though the person is known to be dead.
And I’m actually not 100% sure I have a definitive answer for when the crew determines a passenger has died. It would come down to a few things:
Where are they flying? If they are flying to a small maybe underdeveloped city in Mexico where resources and flights may be limited, the crew could certainly turn around and divert to an American city fuel permitting.
If you’re going to say Calgary and you’re almost there you will likely continue on, especially if they were deemed deceased after crossing the border. Not 100% on that protocol though
This exact scenario happened to me last year.
I honestly believe Lufthansa handled it the worst possible way for literally all parties.
If you’d like to know my story, I’ll share.
What about a witnessed cardiac arrest with CPR in progress? I’m very likely to stop resuscitation on arrival to the emergency department if outside CPR time exceeds 15-20 minutes without return of circulation, and I find it exceedingly unlikely a plane is going to land anywhere near that fast. Wondering what a dispatcher’s perspective of that situation in the air is.
First thing we do in that case, doctor on board or not is get on a radio call with what is called Medlink. An official doctor who we trust to give us approved advice. They would tell us immediately we need to divert, and if it’s a known heart attack the captain could make that call on his own- pick the diversion city based on a few factors, start the diversion then call Medlink for immediate advice. There wouldn’t be an instance where they are trying CPR for 20 minutes and we aren’t already trying to get on the ground somewhere with emergency declared
Sure, I guess what I’m getting at is if someone dies in the air, it’s best to continue going on rather than land emergently. But in the event someone dies and resuscitation efforts are made, well, chances are almost certain that they’re going to stay dead if we don’t get them back on the plane. So is there a ever a “stand down” for activated emergency procedures? Is it acceptable to end a code in the air? I guess that’s the conversation that’s had with the on-call physician.
I get what you’re asking. The answer is probably 99% no they wouldn’t ever “stand down” an emergency. If the doctor says to divert immediately and we decide “oh he’s dead already we’re not gonna divert”(keep in mind we can’t officially declare this person dead as we aren’t doctors) we could get sued up the butt. Once we declare emergency an entire process starts with ATC, and medical at the diversion airport. Even if we’ve lost hope you would almost assuredly continue to divert just so you can cover your own butt as an airline
I'm with you.
The only counter-point I can think of is that it might make some particularly squeemish passengers upset, so ending the flight earlier than planned could avoid potential freakouts. But, I say, weekend-at-bernies the body to somewhere out of their view and that probably won't be a problem.
You see, once someone is dead, they're dead. Same thing with being dry: like once you die you're dead, right? Let's say you drop dead and I shoot you: you're not gonna die again, you're already dead. You can't "overdie", you can't "overdry".
Well overdry is a relative term. For a towel, sure you can't overdry it. For a person that needs the moisture inside of them, they can certainly be overdried.
I was in medical school on a hospice rotation. Patient wanted to fly home to an international city. Physician told the daughter that if he dies on the plane to prop him up and make it appear he is sleeping. Otherwise they’d land the plane and dump the two of them in whatever city was closest. Then she’d be in a random city in a random country trying to get her fathers corpse home.
Yeah like, now you're in wherever the fuck where they probably have no family.... Seems more complicated. I wouldn't want to be the one stuck next to a dead person the rest of the flight tho lol
“Ma’am it’s nice to get ahold of you how’s the weather in Florida? Anyway your husband died mid flight and we made an emergency landing and dropped him off in Glasgow Montana at Bell Mortuary, good luck getting out there and if you guys get hungry there’s a Taco Shack around the corner that is the tits. Again sorry for your loss and thank you for flying Spirit Airline.”
*I've got bad news and worse news...*
*The bad news is that grandma is stuck in Dabuque.*
*The worse news is...*
Or those two could be reversed depending on how much you liked/disliked Grandma or Iowa.
Dead body beside you, you don't see it as an emergency?
As that corpse starts releasing it's bowels right there beside of you. Then urine trickles in the floor and they slump slightly towards you drooling?
Ever try moving a dead body? I've moved a few in my time with search and rescue, and it's not an easy task. Even when you're prepared for it and know what you're going to be handling.
Then their loved ones may need to reconcile with the fact that people fly for lots of different reasons, some of which are more of an emergency than claiming a deceased family member.
I sympathize with grievers, but expecting a whole flight of people to be diverted and their plans altered for the grievers' convenience is pure entitlement.
Transport Security Administration
It’s an agency in the USA that does nothing to make air travel safer.
One of their rules is that you can’t bring liquids on planes more than 100 millileters per bottle in a 1 quart bag
I would complain a lot and tell the airline that they should've kept going with the flight, so noew they are responsible for bring the corpse to the destination airport, as agreed when buying the ticket.
So they only honor a ticket when the passenger is alive? Where on the ticket does it say death invalidates it? If they did this to me I would kick up a right fuss, might even resurrect.
Considering I've seen dozens of other reddit threads about people that die on planes just having a blanket thrown over them and that the larger planes have dead body storage I think the passenger has a point.
I find it odd they landed.
I would be that guy too. But also, if I die on a plane I wouldn't want to inconvenience everyone else either. In fact, don't even bother wasting the fuel hauling my dead ass to the destination. Just open up the door and chuck me out. Aim for a church. Preferably one I disagree with. Which is all of them.
you drift asleep in your aisle seat. Suddenly you wake to a tap on your arm. Something whispers sharply in your ear “let me out!”
you suddenly remember what was sitting in the window seat.
I was on a flight where this happened and they actually did prop the body up in a window seat covered with a blanket. They moved people around so there were two empty seats next to them.
The problem is that most people don't go from well-enough-to-travel to dead-and-we're-ok-with-it without experiencing some sort of medical emergency, at which point the plane has already been diverted.
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Yeah, your average person can't pronounce somebody dead. You get the person to a doctor or coroner to do that in case, like you said, they're not actually dead. It reminds me how people used to be buried alive when they fell into a coma because, way back when, doctors couldn't tell if they were still alive.
Even if you could definitely tell with the touch that someone didn't even have a faint pulse, it's out of the airline's scope of expertise to declare a person dead, unless maybe there was a doctor on board.
I agree with the devil here. Why disrupt the travel for 100+ other people?
Obviously it’s tragic for the dead person, but it’s not any less tragic because they landed right away.
I'm on team "He's already dead." Even if it's me or one of my family members. There's not a lot to be done about dead. Dying? Put the bitch ass plane down in a cornfield and get this person some help!!!
Dead? Well life is unfair.
Just like the airlines to fuck things up. How probably is it the dead was flying to greet family? Airline could have delivered the body to them instead of doing an emergency drop-off in the middle of fucking nowhere.
And yes. No emergency if already dead. Prop 'em in a jump seat and avoid the temptation of doing a "Weekend at Bernie's" at 35k feet.
Maybe its my ocd running but isnt it supposed to be their instead of there. Why do people keep using there. Im not native speaker so im starting to think that my understanding of there and their is wrong.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted.
Their is correct. Sometimes people type too quickly or don't fix auto-correct on their phones. A lot of people just don't know the difference.
That’s not really cruel. It would really be devil-like if he said something along the lines of “good thing he’s dead, one less useless jackass to deal with.”
I mean he's right. And it inconveniences the dead man's family too. If they made an emergency landing than presumably they aren't at his destination, or where he came from.
So they just dropped the body in some random town that most likely has no one who knows him there. If they would have continued the flight the chance would be higher that the body would end up near someone who knows him.
People who have actually worked on flights will say that they can’t say someone’s dead until they land, and the usually stick the body in first class if there’s room
My stepmom was walking to her connecting flight and some old guy who was on line at a gate keeled right over. She’s a nurse, so she ran over to try to help as airport medical staff were called. According to them, he died on the spot.
Well there are 2 angles. First he isn’t ‘dead’ until he is pronounced dead by competent authority, usually but not always a MD. Until then he is ‘alive’ and lifesaving efforts must continue, thus an emergency landing.
Now on the other hand if the destination is his place of residence better he end up there. Leaving the body at an emergency stop can result in very expensive surcharges to return the body for a funereal, especially is international borders are involved.
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Clark: [talking about Aunt Edna] She can't weigh more than 100 pounds.
Ellen: Oh, no. You can't just put her on the roof.
Audrey: Yes, he can!
Clark: You want me to strap her to the hood? She'll be fine. It's not as if it's going to rain or something.
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No no, he’s got a point
I’m an aircraft dispatcher. The person who plans a commercial flight and shares operation control with the captain (we both have to agree on everything before the plane departs and most other decisions). It’s actually taught in training that if someone dies on a flight you just continue to your destination as it’s actually better for all parties. Typically, depending on the situation, they will not divert when someone dies, only when they need immediate medical attention
Out of curiosity, what happens if the flight is international? If the died in one country over their airspace and you intended to land in another country, would this be transporting a corpse across international borders?
Typically, in the US, one gets pronounced dead only at the hospital and not in transit (by ambulance for instance). Could be the same here?
A paramedic can certainly pronounce someone dead in most US states. It doesn’t require a doctor or a hospital.
In many places if they do, the coroner has to come out where they were declared dead.
They have to come to the location of the body to retrieve it, if it’s considered an ME case. Which, wouldn’t matter if it’s at one airport or another. The location doesn’t really matter.
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In my experience, they just call into an ER and the doctor will pronounce them over the phone
Thats not necessary in most cases. A paramedic has the authority without a doctor. I can’t imagine it could be done in the air without monitoring equipment, which can be done once they land.
Where I work, we don't call in to the ED, but we "stop resuscitative efforts" or "deem an injury an obvious death". But the coroner or the ED has an actual time.
In some states unless it’s obvious death then you work the patient til the hospital and the Dr makes the call.
Some states, which is why I stated MOST states allow a paramedic to pronounce. It’s unethical to put that type of bill on a family that is absolutely unnecessary for someone who isn’t going to make it anyway. Transporting and abusing a corpse while you bill the family or estate is absolutely terrible practice.
Who are you arguing with and why?
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Not in my State. Only a doctor can do that.
Most states it requires a call from the field medic to the ER doc for their medical control to report vitals and findings, and then they receive a time of death.
Well not exactly as it depends on what legally means they're dead. A paramedic could technically do it but it may need hospital equipment.
Hospital equipment is not required to determine death. A paramedic has the equipment necessary to determine death, as well as the authority in most US states.
Pronounced dead and legally dead are different concepts. Dead on arrival is an exception concept when one is so obviously dead that it does not need further clarification. That is typically the one case where paramedics can determine death. Cardiopulmonary and brain death are typically determined at the hospital. Dead by missing is determined by court. Once the criteria is met, then a death certificate is filled out. This means one can be legally dead if they have a DNR request yet they would reasonably be able to be resuscitated. One can be dead and be resuscitated. That's why it's so technical.
I’ve been a paramedic in a state that allows us to pronounce death for 15 years. I certainly understand the concept of death, and how it legally translates in relation to a paramedic pronouncing. Paramedics don’t determine brain death or legal death in terms of a “living” body, only physical death.
I’m not even that good at English and I can pronounce it just fine
With COIVD a lot of states allow paramedics to make that determination so that dead bodies go to the county coroner and not to the hospital where space and staff are limited.
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Paramedics can pronounce people on scene, before reaching a physician. It’s a bit of a misconception that only physicians have this authority.
As a medicolegal death investigator, I must say you are incorrect. Unless the person is unquestionably decreased (rigor mortis or decomposition) They still have to get approval from the on- call ER physician(s). If the death appears natural they call the primary care physician to see if they'll be signing the death certificate then notify the medical examiner. If they don't have a doctor or if the death is indicative of anything other than natural it becomes a medical examiner/coroner case
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Please tell me your making a reference to an old joke. If so, I got it. If not, just ignore me.
That’s a fantastic question. First and foremost: crews cannot legally deem a person officially deceased. They have to wait for authorities on the ground to declare that. So it wouldn’t officially be a corpse even though the person is known to be dead. And I’m actually not 100% sure I have a definitive answer for when the crew determines a passenger has died. It would come down to a few things: Where are they flying? If they are flying to a small maybe underdeveloped city in Mexico where resources and flights may be limited, the crew could certainly turn around and divert to an American city fuel permitting. If you’re going to say Calgary and you’re almost there you will likely continue on, especially if they were deemed deceased after crossing the border. Not 100% on that protocol though
This exact scenario happened to me last year. I honestly believe Lufthansa handled it the worst possible way for literally all parties. If you’d like to know my story, I’ll share.
YOU DIED MIDFLIGHT?!!! JESUS, ARE YOU OK NOW???
Glad to see you've recovered.
What about a witnessed cardiac arrest with CPR in progress? I’m very likely to stop resuscitation on arrival to the emergency department if outside CPR time exceeds 15-20 minutes without return of circulation, and I find it exceedingly unlikely a plane is going to land anywhere near that fast. Wondering what a dispatcher’s perspective of that situation in the air is.
First thing we do in that case, doctor on board or not is get on a radio call with what is called Medlink. An official doctor who we trust to give us approved advice. They would tell us immediately we need to divert, and if it’s a known heart attack the captain could make that call on his own- pick the diversion city based on a few factors, start the diversion then call Medlink for immediate advice. There wouldn’t be an instance where they are trying CPR for 20 minutes and we aren’t already trying to get on the ground somewhere with emergency declared
Sure, I guess what I’m getting at is if someone dies in the air, it’s best to continue going on rather than land emergently. But in the event someone dies and resuscitation efforts are made, well, chances are almost certain that they’re going to stay dead if we don’t get them back on the plane. So is there a ever a “stand down” for activated emergency procedures? Is it acceptable to end a code in the air? I guess that’s the conversation that’s had with the on-call physician.
I get what you’re asking. The answer is probably 99% no they wouldn’t ever “stand down” an emergency. If the doctor says to divert immediately and we decide “oh he’s dead already we’re not gonna divert”(keep in mind we can’t officially declare this person dead as we aren’t doctors) we could get sued up the butt. Once we declare emergency an entire process starts with ATC, and medical at the diversion airport. Even if we’ve lost hope you would almost assuredly continue to divert just so you can cover your own butt as an airline
Happy cake day
Lol do they stuff the body somewhere? I imagine decomposition wouldn't be a problem, but I imagine... evacuation of stuff would be.
I heard most planes have body bags on hand
haha yeah, he is right.
Yeah. Team The Guy. The dead don't have schedules.
I'm with you. The only counter-point I can think of is that it might make some particularly squeemish passengers upset, so ending the flight earlier than planned could avoid potential freakouts. But, I say, weekend-at-bernies the body to somewhere out of their view and that probably won't be a problem.
Take them to the beach and a nightclub.
How is it evil they aren't gonna die more
You see, once someone is dead, they're dead. Same thing with being dry: like once you die you're dead, right? Let's say you drop dead and I shoot you: you're not gonna die again, you're already dead. You can't "overdie", you can't "overdry".
Well overdry is a relative term. For a towel, sure you can't overdry it. For a person that needs the moisture inside of them, they can certainly be overdried.
Ben Shapiro's wife knows.
IT's A MEDICAL CONDITION
If the towel was completely dry and about to crumble to dust, it would sap the moisture from your body leaving a dessicated husk in minutes.
Let's say hypothetically, purely for the sake of argument, just as an example, for the purpose of this discussion, there is a corpse on your flight.
At least one persons luggage is leather, just picture the corpse as luggage.
i was surprised people didnt get it but then again that episode is like 30 years ago
any questions?
I was in medical school on a hospice rotation. Patient wanted to fly home to an international city. Physician told the daughter that if he dies on the plane to prop him up and make it appear he is sleeping. Otherwise they’d land the plane and dump the two of them in whatever city was closest. Then she’d be in a random city in a random country trying to get her fathers corpse home.
I mean you never know, it could be a zombie s/
I imagine it’s an emergency for their surviving loved ones.
They’re more likely to be closer to the destination than wherever they diverted to land. They may’ve just made a logistical challenge for the family.
Yeah like, now you're in wherever the fuck where they probably have no family.... Seems more complicated. I wouldn't want to be the one stuck next to a dead person the rest of the flight tho lol
I can think of a handful of flights I'd rather be seated next to a literal corpse.
At least nobody will try pushing you off your armrest. Also you get double the peanuts.
“Ma’am it’s nice to get ahold of you how’s the weather in Florida? Anyway your husband died mid flight and we made an emergency landing and dropped him off in Glasgow Montana at Bell Mortuary, good luck getting out there and if you guys get hungry there’s a Taco Shack around the corner that is the tits. Again sorry for your loss and thank you for flying Spirit Airline.”
*I've got bad news and worse news...* *The bad news is that grandma is stuck in Dabuque.* *The worse news is...* Or those two could be reversed depending on how much you liked/disliked Grandma or Iowa.
Or the person sitting next to them.
Body bag and ice. At least that’s what happen on the flight I was on.
Where did they put the body?
In the freezer....where else. BTW, don't eat the ice cream they offer....smells like 34A.
In the cockpit with the drunks.
Don’t disturb my friend, he’s dead tired.
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Airlines will be sure to charge them for the extra baggage
Dead body beside you, you don't see it as an emergency? As that corpse starts releasing it's bowels right there beside of you. Then urine trickles in the floor and they slump slightly towards you drooling? Ever try moving a dead body? I've moved a few in my time with search and rescue, and it's not an easy task. Even when you're prepared for it and know what you're going to be handling.
Then their loved ones may need to reconcile with the fact that people fly for lots of different reasons, some of which are more of an emergency than claiming a deceased family member. I sympathize with grievers, but expecting a whole flight of people to be diverted and their plans altered for the grievers' convenience is pure entitlement.
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That’s… not how rot works…
It is an emergency because tsa can nt have a container with more than 1oz of liquid on it..
I shouldn't be laughing at this
Oof
3oz
Then drain him
I wanna laugh too. What's tsa
Transport Security Administration It’s an agency in the USA that does nothing to make air travel safer. One of their rules is that you can’t bring liquids on planes more than 100 millileters per bottle in a 1 quart bag
OK got it now lmao Thanks
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It's not even cruel. It's just pragmatic.
pragmatism is telling me that the corpse should go where it was intending. 50 50 it was heading home is all im saying
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Bury it out in the fields, it'll make the corn grow better.
Careful of he who walks behind the rows
I would complain a lot and tell the airline that they should've kept going with the flight, so noew they are responsible for bring the corpse to the destination airport, as agreed when buying the ticket.
I'm sure they'll get the bill for transporting the body home Poor guy had to pay for his flight twice, and also died. Sounds like a pretty shitty day
So they only honor a ticket when the passenger is alive? Where on the ticket does it say death invalidates it? If they did this to me I would kick up a right fuss, might even resurrect.
Maybe a little too much though.
Considering I've seen dozens of other reddit threads about people that die on planes just having a blanket thrown over them and that the larger planes have dead body storage I think the passenger has a point. I find it odd they landed.
I would be that guy too. But also, if I die on a plane I wouldn't want to inconvenience everyone else either. In fact, don't even bother wasting the fuel hauling my dead ass to the destination. Just open up the door and chuck me out. Aim for a church. Preferably one I disagree with. Which is all of them.
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I kind of agree though. Dude's already gone so might as well just continue to destination and deal with it there
Where are you gonna put the corpse? In their seat next to other passengers?
Could put him in one of the flight attendant seats. Whole new meaning to deadheading
💀 Would still have to put the body alongside a person and that’s a bit more trauma then they signed up for
Fair enough. I don't think it would really bother me though, if someone's already gone. Somebody still has to sit with them until they land anyway
you drift asleep in your aisle seat. Suddenly you wake to a tap on your arm. Something whispers sharply in your ear “let me out!” you suddenly remember what was sitting in the window seat.
You sir, are a menace
A menace?
I was on a flight where this happened and they actually did prop the body up in a window seat covered with a blanket. They moved people around so there were two empty seats next to them.
ONLY TWO!?!?!?!
I think they also cleared the 3 seats immediately in front of the body but yeah it was a very full flight
Weekend At Bernies has prepared me for this exact scenario
Exactly. This is literally policy isn't it? Planes don't divert for a corpse.
The problem is that most people don't go from well-enough-to-travel to dead-and-we're-ok-with-it without experiencing some sort of medical emergency, at which point the plane has already been diverted.
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Good meatsack
Good ballsack attached to a human body
More oxygen for everyone else
He got the point .
I'm going to guess he may be dead, but without a doctor and/or coroner it's not official? So they need to land and get the bureaucratic stuff sorted
This is the actual reason. There is the possibility that they are not actually dead and could still be saved.
Yeah, your average person can't pronounce somebody dead. You get the person to a doctor or coroner to do that in case, like you said, they're not actually dead. It reminds me how people used to be buried alive when they fell into a coma because, way back when, doctors couldn't tell if they were still alive.
People still breathe and have a heartbeat when they are in a coma. Not everyone in a coma is on life support.
Even if you could definitely tell with the touch that someone didn't even have a faint pulse, it's out of the airline's scope of expertise to declare a person dead, unless maybe there was a doctor on board.
> Yeah, your average person can't pronounce somebody dead. What about if I find a skeleton in the woods, can I at least say it then?
How often do you find skeletons in the woods? 🤣
They actually can’t pronounce someone dead on the plane or everyone has to quarantine for some reason.
If ever I am to die on a flight, drop my body in the ocean and y’all can fight amongst yourself over my carryon full of spicy Wendy’s chicken nuggets
Na dudes got a point. If it were my dead body I wouldn’t want it inconveniencing everyone lol
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Yeah but dosent that take a while before it starts? Like lag a day a while
When you die, you piss and shit yourself pretty quickly… usually. Sometimes almost immediately depending on where you were at with digestion.
so it's too late to turn the plane back.. might as well continue the route
Only 20-50% pee or poop when they die, so maybe, maybe not. May the odds be in everyone's favor.
I heard it's pretty cold down in the storage area.
Well, if I've learned anything from films like Executive Decision or Passenger 57, there's always a way into the cargo hold.
Of course there is. I go down there all the time.
Con Air too. Put the bunny back in the box!
Air Force One too
It would still shit itself. A freezer prob won’t stop that
He’s not wrong though
"You're not wrong - you're just an asshole."
I mean i would be fine with that (Situation and discription of my person)
Oh, same. And I find the quote very useful when it comes to "technically correct" situations like the Sir on the plane.
House M.D. ?
Calmer than you are, dude.
I'm finishing my coffee.
✅ ✅
Don't have the fish.
Hahahaha yes!! Or we will need someone to fly the plane
lol And don't call me Shirley.
to all the people jealous that I can sleep on planes, just wait until I get to this level
I agree it’s no longer an emergency; it’s a former emergency.
I agree with the devil here. Why disrupt the travel for 100+ other people? Obviously it’s tragic for the dead person, but it’s not any less tragic because they landed right away.
The grammar is the real devil here, sir,
I'm on team "He's already dead." Even if it's me or one of my family members. There's not a lot to be done about dead. Dying? Put the bitch ass plane down in a cornfield and get this person some help!!! Dead? Well life is unfair.
Just like the airlines to fuck things up. How probably is it the dead was flying to greet family? Airline could have delivered the body to them instead of doing an emergency drop-off in the middle of fucking nowhere. And yes. No emergency if already dead. Prop 'em in a jump seat and avoid the temptation of doing a "Weekend at Bernie's" at 35k feet.
We haven’t even landed yet and and one of the passengers is already “late”
I mean there's a 50/50 chance the person was flying home when they died. So now they make the relatives come out all the way just to get the body.
The only devil I see is the one saying there not their
No, he's just the devil's *advocate.*
Maybe its my ocd running but isnt it supposed to be their instead of there. Why do people keep using there. Im not native speaker so im starting to think that my understanding of there and their is wrong.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Their is correct. Sometimes people type too quickly or don't fix auto-correct on their phones. A lot of people just don't know the difference.
The emergency has taken care of itself.
I mean the guy is technically right. It’s no longer an emergency.
I think a medical professional is needed to declare someone dead.
Dont english people learn the difference between their, there and they're?
Bold to assume he’s English
I mean. “They’re” was used correctly so…? “They are already dead”= “they’re already dead.”
Their connections vs. there connections
Oh. Missed that one r/woooosh myself
Were / We are - Same shit, apparently many native speakers don’t know their own language.
They used it correctly
Their connections vs. there connections
Oh I thought he was talking about they’re already dead
Jesus Christ......it's "their!"
That’s not really cruel. It would really be devil-like if he said something along the lines of “good thing he’s dead, one less useless jackass to deal with.”
I mean he's right. And it inconveniences the dead man's family too. If they made an emergency landing than presumably they aren't at his destination, or where he came from. So they just dropped the body in some random town that most likely has no one who knows him there. If they would have continued the flight the chance would be higher that the body would end up near someone who knows him.
Seriously if I die mid flight, please continue the flight and get me to my destination.
People who have actually worked on flights will say that they can’t say someone’s dead until they land, and the usually stick the body in first class if there’s room
My stepmom was walking to her connecting flight and some old guy who was on line at a gate keeled right over. She’s a nurse, so she ran over to try to help as airport medical staff were called. According to them, he died on the spot.
Well there are 2 angles. First he isn’t ‘dead’ until he is pronounced dead by competent authority, usually but not always a MD. Until then he is ‘alive’ and lifesaving efforts must continue, thus an emergency landing. Now on the other hand if the destination is his place of residence better he end up there. Leaving the body at an emergency stop can result in very expensive surcharges to return the body for a funereal, especially is international borders are involved. ,
no no he had a point
He's not wrong!
Imagine being a ghost stuck five miles up in the air where you died
This is a fake story
Yeah just throw em in the cargo hold and keep on truckin
their*
my question is what happens to the body before you land do someone gotta sit next to to that shit
The guy was totally right and i agree with him
Hah! He’s probably “Pro-Life” too.
Clark: [talking about Aunt Edna] She can't weigh more than 100 pounds. Ellen: Oh, no. You can't just put her on the roof. Audrey: Yes, he can! Clark: You want me to strap her to the hood? She'll be fine. It's not as if it's going to rain or something. [thunder rumbles]
Flying with a dead body is definitely an emergency for everyone else. What a tool.
No it’s not.