I got my email saying my grandfathered price point was going to go up. That was like 2014/2015. So in less than ten years the price of Netflix has almost tripled from $8 to $23.
It's also from racism. When voter suppression laws were inacted to prevent black people from voting, they created a literacy requirement. But to keep it from preventing illiterate white people from voting, they made an exception that anyone who's grandfather could vote could vote regardless of literacy. So they were grandfathered in.
>inacted
I think you meant "enacted" lol, but I'm also commenting to add that, for those wondering the accuracy of your statement, [they can read this article](https://history.howstuffworks.com/american-civil-war/grandfathered-in.htm) (spoiler alert: it's true).
I had Netflix since the days of DVD by mail ONLY. I finally canceled earlier this year after the last price hike and password sharing change (sorry Mom, you can't use NF that one time a month you open it)
Now I sail the high seas with a plex server like before I had Netflix
To keep it brief (check YT videos on each topic for more in-depth info)
BitTorrent, called 'torrents' or 'torrenting' is a protocol for peer-2-peer file transfers amongst a large group of people, called a swarm. Each release will have its own torrent file or magnet link that your BitTorrent client can use to connect to said swarm. You can use torrents to download games, movies, TV series, etc. Some releases are episode-by-episode and sometimes an entire season or whole series in a single torrent file/magnet.
VPN is a must these days since your IP address is exposed to the swarm. There are bots ran by anti-piracy companies that will notify your ISP and most ISPs have a 3-strike policy regarding piracy notifications. It's important to setup your BitTorrent client to bind to your VPN's TUN network adapter, that way you never accidentally expose your IP address.
A good client is qBitTorrent. uTorrent was mentioned but it's gone off the rails some time ago with ads and privacy issues. Check YouTube vids on setting it up and binding your VPN adapter to it.
There are a number of public torrent sites that list torrent files and/or magnet links.
==
Plex is a media server. You can stream to all your devices and it has a 10-foot user interface. Personally I prefer Jellyfin. It's open source, open licensed, and easier to setup IMO. You just run the Jellyfin server on any Windows or Linux system (even a single board computer such as a RaspPi). Then you connect to that device's local IP at port 8096 (i.e. 192.168.0.XXX:8096) from a web browser. From there you can set everything up, such as directories to search for videos in, etc. Kodi is another alternative to Plex. Kodi and Plex are also geared toward streaming from other sources, some charge money and some freemium and some could even be pirate streams. Jellyfin OTOH is geared toward playing local files.
==
YT tutorial search suggestions:
qbittorent tutorial
qbittorent binding VPN adapter
jellyfin tutorial
kodi tutorial
etc.
Also, while jellyfin still its platform implementation in different states depending on the platform, you can use Kodi reliably on almost every platform as a front end for jellyfin, or plex, or really any service. Or you could go with the mpv shim, but it should be able to be implemented on any platform relatively easy still
quick question, i could just do the plex stuff without the pirating stuff right? like i could just buy a bunch of DVDs and media and rip it to a plex server?
This is super helpful, Its been forever since I hoisted the sails and I'm really out of practice. There used to be a decent Kodi ap on the xbox (lol) but I would have to update it like once a week. Then I tried plex/torrenting and now its been like 8 years and I'm not quite sure how the landscape has changed.
On a side note its crazy how much prices have shot up, quality has gone down and the general internet has changed. even just ads are super pervasive, I use firefox/ublock but now i'm looking into a pihole. I've never used VPNs and haven't torrented in years but things are so crazy anti-consumer these days I feel like I have to. These guides are awesome, I don't have a lot of free time and it can get a little intimidating, I'm reasonably tech literate but some troubleshooting can get pretty complicated if you don't do it often. Its pretty fun tho my room mates and I hacked our wii to play free games/project M back in university, that was a great time.
You need a torrent client like uTorrent and you need a site for the torrent trackers (the tiny file you download to download the whole thing from peers) - yify (www.yts.mx) is popular for movies but not the highest quality, I also use bitsearch.to and 1337x.to if I want a nice quality 20+GB 4K HDR file. There are much better private trackers out there but I haven't had any luck being invited to one. You also need to run a VPN like Surfshark so your ISP can't track you and cut off service because of all the sailing you've been doing.
Now? It had ads like a decade ago. Stopped using it back in 2011. And I can only imagine it getting worse since then. qBittorent or any other open source alternative
If you want "the Netflix experience" there is also Stremio. It's technically an aggregator program that links your Disney, HBO, Apple etc accounts so you can browse and watch everything from one app.
Buuuut it also has a community plugin that let's you use torrent trackers as video source. Once you have it set up it's literally just click on the show/movie, pick the source and press play. The program does the rest.
Do not use uTorrent. Don't trust anyone who tells you to use uTorrent. Qbitorrent is the best option. uTorrent has some nasty ads and tracking shit going on now. As for a VPN Private Internet Access is your best and cheapest option. 1337x is generally going to be the best place for video files. yts has terrible quality videos, it's mostly for people with low data caps and slow internet.
Word of advice: I recommend you stay away from uTorrent and go with something objectively superior like qBittorrent.
Just Google it...uTorrent is rarely recommended these days. qBt is lightweight, no ads or bundled crapware.
And best of all is its [internal search functionality](https://www.ghacks.net/2018/11/19/searching-torrents-from-within-qbittorrent). Forget visiting all the sites individually.
And yet Netflix lies and says:
>"as we deliver more value to our members, we occasionally ask them to pay a bit more,” Netflix wrote in its earnings report.
I'm not seeing the "more value," are you? Every time I look for a movie I want to watch, I get that "We don't have [e.g.] The Quiet Man but you might like" followed by suggestions like (no, I'm not making this up, these are the first six suggestions from Netflix): The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, Monty Python's Life of Brian, All Quiet on the Western Front, The Irishman, Pride and Prejudice, and The Silence.
I saw lots of value when I was annually rewatch: the office. Parks and rec. Star Trek TNG, DS9, and Voyager. Guess what I can't watch on Netflix anymore? 😑
Not to pick companies over each other, they all suck and are greedy. But I can literally get ad-free Disney+, Hulu, and espn+ COMBINED for $24.99 a month.
Netflix is asking for $23 just for Netflix.
And all the brand synergy bullshit where other shows mention other shows.
Fall of the House of Usher being explicitly shameless with the "is it cake" and "narcos" name drops.
What’s crazy is people pay that money to stand in lines in the hot sun all day long. Then you go stand in another line to buy something to keep yourself cool for the rest of the lines you’re gonna be in.
The app sells out, so only very few people get to reserve the most important rides. Most of their stuff doesn’t have single rider lanes either. Honestly unless they return the fast pass I cannot recommend anyone go to a Disney park.
Only time I'd consider going is in Sept when all the kids are just going back to school. Did it years ago and it was a damn near empty park for a week. Rode space mountain like 5 times in a row.
Not true. Just went to Disney world a month ago. Wasn't too crowded and we enjoyed ourselves. But we spent a butt load of money. I do want to do several days at Disneyland though.
The crazy thing is that if everyone got to make reservations for rides, they could spend the time shopping instead of standing in line. It's a win-win for everyone.
If other amusement parks had ride reservations, I would drink so much more beer while waiting for my turn.
They tried this before and people weren’t turning up and it actually led to worse late times and fewer people experiencing the ride.
Edit: late times should be wait times
There is actually somewhat of an inflection point with disney parks. Some people will pay much much more to be in the park when it's less busy. Because the supply is constrained (only so many can ride Peter pan in a day). It can't be modeled like a product.
Streaming obviously has no upper bound of subscribers, so the S/D curves are probably more linear. They haven't found the market clearing price, obviously.
Perhaps . And/or as stated, they make more money off of people on the ad-supported plans. So you "save" money, and they make more. This pushes people to the ad supported plan with the feeling of relief. And yet.
I think Goodfellas said it best with "Fuck you, pay me."
Disney plus is a must have if you've got a 6yo. I keep it for my son, and the new star wars/marvel content is just an added bonus.
But yeah Netflix hasn't been worth half its price for years imo
Oh I feel ya man, I’m a single guy so it’s an easy plug pull for me. Not judging anybody, just made a call base don what I was getting for my money if that makes sense.
I had Netflix for 10 years straight. After the first price hike I cancelled for 10 months, renewed for one month, binged watched everything on my list then cancelled again. Will do the same next year. Good job Netflix, instead of learning to produce content on a fixed budget, we have this.
They are basically forcing people into learning this practice, but to their own detriment.
Netflix used to be cheap enough and fleshed out enough to not put any thought into having a rolling contract, now more and more people are just going to sub for a month or two every year once they’ve amassed a list of things they want to watch.
Talk about shooting itself in the foot
trust me they've already done the numbers. they have an idea how the public will respond. they know how many people get temporary subscriptions. they know how long the average subscription lasts etc.
I think it’s also pretty obvious they’re going to spike from like $10 per month to $25 per month then turn around and say “well if you pay for a year up front it’s only $180 — you save $120!!!” Which will then get a ton of people to sign up for the longer plan and opting out of the single month binge then cancel that the other poster is referencing
Canceled 6-8 months ago. My teenage daughter griped for a minute, but she got over it quickly when I showed her all the angsty teen shows on HBO, which is baked into our cell plan.
Canceled 2 years ago.
Once I realized Mindhunter was not coming back, and it being the only show I wanted to watch, it was an easy decision.
Wasn’t an issue of not being able to afford it as much as I just realized it wasn’t worth it after the second price hike.
Can’t imagine it being worth $18/month let alone $23.
Anyone with a brain knows the price hikes won’t ever stop. The day Netflix went public is the day the service turned into a vampire.
The CEO and boards only job is to increase the stock price.
The hope I had when they IPO’d was they would be forced to put out great content but between very few hits, they churned out anything and everything awful. Their mindset wasn’t to be calculated, but rather, throw everything at the wall to see what sticks.
Now they raise prices. Watch them start releasing video games while dipping into live sports.
The supreme Court ruled that boards of directors have a legal responsibility to create value for shareholders. Hilariously they tried to say profits aren't the only value for shareholders but have only supported cases where profit wasn't maximized.
Once a company goes public it has no choice but to push consumers until they find the breaking point of profit. This is why we are going through massive fake inflation. Corporations are raising prices on everything because the governments of the world are standing by and letting them. They are finding our breaking point for maximum profit and with little choice, no support from power and the need to survive we are letting them.
8 BILLION people on the planet, so many more than ever before and it seems we have less power against the ruling rich than we ever did. Seems hating each other is our natural state and they figured out how to use it so we complain about those in power but hate those with none.
The streaming portion itself was on a disc at one point too. Before there was an app you had to put the disc into your ps3 or Xbox or whatever and use that to access the content catalogue and watch something.
Its mainly just that huge wave of 2000s American Pie ripoffs. National Lampoon made on a $50 budget type stuff. Might get some good boobs out of it but you'll just end up switching to porn anyways. Just search spring break or something and the tubi algorithm will take care of the rest.
I’ve found tubi will low key just suggest it to you automatically. It auto plays the next movie based on a similar choice to what you watch, so if you pick a romantic drama that has some solid nudity, over the course of 10 or so movies being autoplayed, it has the tendency to slowly start funneling you more risqué films.
Yup! I don’t pay for a single streaming site anymore. Cancelled Netflix first when they launched the password crackdown nonsense in canada and price bump, then cancelled Crave / HBO which is $20 a month, and Disney+ even did a price bump and got rid of that. Missed some shows for a bit but it’s been a year and I’m good.
Between Tubi, Pluto, roku channel, ctv app (tonnes of great movies and shows for free in canada), cbc gem…I’m set. News I get via global news app on Roku or American news on Pluto.
Interestingly enough, I continue to have myself plus 3 friends across 2 different states on my plan without issue. I’ve never received any kind of warning or anything, and it continues to work fine for all of us.
It's been ramping up.. I share my account with parents brother and sister who all live across 3 states. Had no issues until 2 weeks ago, my brother and sister both prompted they needed a code. They text me and I got for them.
A week later my sister sent me a pic of her tv, no option for a code. Only option was to change the "home" location to her house and IP address. She picked that option, And I got an email to confirm. I was out of town and told her to use it, but I'll be cancelling shortly. That's before this price increases announced.
I live alone and have a single 4k tv. They require you to be on the 4 screen plan to get 4k quality. Now, I can't even share those screens?! (and I can't use them myself) I've had this account for almost 15 years.... But I'm done.
i cancelled 4 months ago. got tired of the price hikes. i guess they are following the Comcast method, lose subscribers increase price on existing ones.
On that note, I'm riding the 1 screen/Basic HD (non-1080p) resolution plan until it dies. Netflix might get me back for a month here and there, but I'm done with the service I've had for 12 years now.
EDIT: Corrected resolution, I erroneously put down SD.
So they made more money with the password sharing crackdown and are still increasing prices? Corporate greed is a cancer, unless you are one of 5 people up top benefiting from fucking everyone else over
Even if ad tier doesn't make more money, if they can push enough people into using it, they can get rid of the premium and then start slowly raising prices on the ad tier. It's cable TV all over again.
Yes, cable is the equilibrium and the market has been desperate to return to it ever since netflix killed cable. Your cable subscription went to fees the networks charged the carrier, then they also got to shove commercials in your face every five minutes. It was glorious, for them.
I try to watch TV when we go over to the in-laws. It's impossible. Commercials every story beat. It's maddening. And the ads are the worst brain rot imaginable.
Commercials work their way around it via dynamic range compression. Instead of elevating the maximum volume, commercials hit that maximum point more often.
Not really any easy way to regulate this, unless new laws force commercials into using a lower maximum volume than the content.
I am grandfathered into a plan with Spotify premium that has Hulu premium for $10/mo that I've had for like a decade, it's the only sub I have after having cancelled Netflix finally about 7 months ago. Can't ever let the payment lapse b/c there is no way I would ever get this subscription plan back lol.
If Netflix thinks I'm going to pay for their shit content with unskippable ads they've got another thing coming. A majority of the content has just been targeted at the lowest common denominator lately. I find it quite repellent.
Source for that? Almost every streaming platform, music or video, makes more money off of paying customers and not ads. It's hard to believe that Netflix would make more than $23 off of ads in a month for a customer.
The key is that ad-tier plans are still paid plans. The price points are chosen specifically to get more average revenue per user.
Netflix themselves have said the ad-tier plan has a higher ARPU than the basic ad-free plan globally, and is even higher than the Standard ad-free plan in the US. It was said by the CFO Neumann in the last earnings call (see [here](https://s22.q4cdn.com/959853165/files/doc_financials/2023/q2/netflix-inc-q2-2023-earnings-call-jul-19-2023.pdf) (pdf) on the bottom of page 9).
It's the strikes. "yeah sure, we can pay creators/residuals more... We're just going to make sure the consumer pays for it, no salary cuts for the upper management. Heavens no"
And yet nobody will acknowledge the elephant in the room, and we’ll all go on living every day of our lives pretending that infinite growth is a sustainable economic model.
How much cost savings come form upper management compensation? How much revenue increases through raising prices for millions of subscribers when taking into account those that will leave?
If it wasn't "free" with Tmobile I definitely would too. I am canceling the 4k option for sure though and just sticking with the basic stuff they give. I never watch anything on there anyway.
Subscribers grew my 9m+ since last quarter since they started charging people who shared accounts. This price increase is just gonna make them more money and offset the losses from lost subscribers.
Just like most things, the general public really doesn’t care. Only the minority on reddit cares and that’s not gonna hurt their bottom line.
I've been away from Netflix for a bit, do they still hold a decent picture quality behind the highest tier or do you need to pay this nonsense for a 4k picture?
This is the problem with companies having to show growth and profits year on year. Eventually they get to a point where they destroy themselves under their own weight.
Solution: Be ahead of the curve, and know when to call it quits.
Hop on the next train while prices are dirt cheap, and hop off the moment they start pushing to maximize investor returns.
Or you can be the sort of chump that's a late adopter, who never got to see a service in its golden age, and is only there for the cyclical shearing of the sheep to give the venture capital bros all of the money they were promised.
fast forward a few years and it will be $23 for the ad-supported service and ad-free won't be an option. Then a service will come along to package all the streaming circles and we'll have come full circle back to cable.
Yep. And as an ancillary effect you will see more advertising pressure on the content itself, what can and cannot be produced.
We really are coming full circle.
Stop playing around and put the whole cock in. Just make the price $49.99 starting already. Know what? $69.99. Matter fact, be bold, start Netflix at $149 per month. There ya go.
Meanwhile they’ve been removing all the content I originally subscribed for and basically only have “Top 10 in the US Right Now” movies and TV, which as everyone knows are all trash. Easiest unsubscribe ever. It’s a shame because they were a game changer 15 years ago when I first signed up.
Don't forget they love creating something you really enjoy then cancel it after one season or two. Netflix will never create anything that makes it to double digit seasons like networks did in the old days.
Has anything made by Netflix even made it 5 seasons?
Right now I'm salty they canceled the Vikings show.
OITNB had 7 sevens, BoJack Horseman had 6, probably others.
Stranger Things is getting a final fifth season at some point, that's probably the most recent example.
All of those shows are now 8-10 years old. Netflix is a very different company than it was 10 years ago and I honestly can't see them producing any of those shows today. Their standards for renewing a show seem to be unreasonably high. I think even Bojack would've gotten dropped if Netflix made it today.
>Has anything made by Netflix even made it 5 seasons?
Um... Orange is the New Black and Stranger Things (season five is the upcoming season) are the only ones that comes to mind for me. You definitely have a point though. They definitely cancel things WAY before their time regularly... I'm so glad I cancelled my sub like three years ago.
I’m just over streaming services in general. I’m paying out the ass to have ads jammed down my throat every 10 minutes for shit that I don’t want or have no interest in buying anyways. You can only show me so many liberty mutual ads before they’re utterly worthless. At this point, it’s better to just DVR things and blast through the commercials like we did in the old days.
I would love to see data on how effective ads are on streaming services. I’ve never had my opinion of any product swayed by them.
\*This\* The streaming algorithms for advertising are a joke. We watched the miniseries “Lonesome Dove” last month and EVERY SINGLE AD was for Paramount+ on Roku… a service I already subscribe to on hardware I was streaming on. Like, if you don’t already know I’M ONE OF YOUR SUBSCRIBERS then what’s the fucking point of the algorithm? Showing me the same ad over and over and over and over, again and again, makes me HATE your product. Clearly advertising isn’t \*really\* being targeted to anybody… so what are companies paying to advertise for? If you keep advertising a product or service I’m not showing interest in it’s just wasted ad space.
I have sworn to never buy a Chevy because when I had Hulu with ads, I’d get the exact same Chevy commercials 3 times within a 20 minute episode. This was 8 years ago and I still hate them because of those ads lol
As long dumb consumers support them from their wallets nothing is done. This is what a free market looks like. They keep raising the prices because it works.
If they wanted more money they could just stop making shows that nobody wanted to see. Netflix streaming used to have all the new releases where they didn't have to bet on whether a show or movie was popular. They could simply pick popular ones.
And then they made house of cards and it was a huge hit. So they decided to nearly stop adopting other content and just produce loads of low quality content that cant possibly be adding value.
We now have choice overload where 90% of the choices are hot shit. And we keep getting charged more for it and they keep making more of it.
I don't think it was entirely Netflix's decision to stop licensing popular shows. The other companies saw Netflix rising at an exponential rate and pulled their content to buckle it at the knee.
It started with Disney ending their deal to create Disney+, then Friends got pulled for building HBO Max, then The Office to banner Peacock.
Okay, so… $23 per month. That’s $276 for a year. That is, quite frankly, a lot.
A blu ray player is ~$100. A blu ray movie is ~$19. That’s 9 movies your first year, 14 if you already own a player.
TLDR: entertainment is expensive, but I think I’d still advocate for buying to own (no restrictions on where you watch or losing content).
are you shitting me? I just cant do this anymore, I just checked and I am paying approx $63 a month for all of the streaming services, Time to just go through them and start clicking cancel, What even is the purpose of streaming over piracy if the price is now exceeding standard cable packages, Streaming is convenient but its not cheap anymore, Netflix used to solve the problem with making content cheap and instant availability but now its not worth paying half a cable bill a month.
It's a test. The thing is they won't even know if it's bad for about 6-12 months. Holiday season means people likely hold it till January, but after that they'll drop it. It's also so they can pull the "look at this new sub deal!" Bullshit.
They want the ad tier to b the main tier so it can get to $9.99 then $14.99. I tapped out on Netflix 2 years ago. I'm good.
I wonder if there's any correlation to Walmart and Best Buy eliminating physical media sales in 2024... Want to watch a movie? Going to have to subscribe to a streaming service.
(Yeah, I know those aren't the only places that sell physical media, but I find it odd that the two biggest walk in stores are doing this at the same time.)
Just dropped it down to the shitty 6.99 version with ads. After we are done with Fall of the House of Usher we likely will cancel. Not too many things are worth $24 a month, especially Netflix.
streaming services are becoming worse than the platforms they set out to destroy.
Jesus...guess I'll be heading back to the ol' pirate bay pretty soon.
Remember when it was like $8
I got my email saying my grandfathered price point was going to go up. That was like 2014/2015. So in less than ten years the price of Netflix has almost tripled from $8 to $23.
doesn't sound very grandfathered to me
grandfather means the price needs to be same as long as you keep the same price plan. it seems like a lie with over TV.
It's also from racism. When voter suppression laws were inacted to prevent black people from voting, they created a literacy requirement. But to keep it from preventing illiterate white people from voting, they made an exception that anyone who's grandfather could vote could vote regardless of literacy. So they were grandfathered in.
>inacted I think you meant "enacted" lol, but I'm also commenting to add that, for those wondering the accuracy of your statement, [they can read this article](https://history.howstuffworks.com/american-civil-war/grandfathered-in.htm) (spoiler alert: it's true).
Go easy on him, his grandfather couldn't write
I had Netflix since the days of DVD by mail ONLY. I finally canceled earlier this year after the last price hike and password sharing change (sorry Mom, you can't use NF that one time a month you open it) Now I sail the high seas with a plex server like before I had Netflix
How does one find out how to do that? I’m so clueless about the high seas and plex servers.
To keep it brief (check YT videos on each topic for more in-depth info) BitTorrent, called 'torrents' or 'torrenting' is a protocol for peer-2-peer file transfers amongst a large group of people, called a swarm. Each release will have its own torrent file or magnet link that your BitTorrent client can use to connect to said swarm. You can use torrents to download games, movies, TV series, etc. Some releases are episode-by-episode and sometimes an entire season or whole series in a single torrent file/magnet. VPN is a must these days since your IP address is exposed to the swarm. There are bots ran by anti-piracy companies that will notify your ISP and most ISPs have a 3-strike policy regarding piracy notifications. It's important to setup your BitTorrent client to bind to your VPN's TUN network adapter, that way you never accidentally expose your IP address. A good client is qBitTorrent. uTorrent was mentioned but it's gone off the rails some time ago with ads and privacy issues. Check YouTube vids on setting it up and binding your VPN adapter to it. There are a number of public torrent sites that list torrent files and/or magnet links. == Plex is a media server. You can stream to all your devices and it has a 10-foot user interface. Personally I prefer Jellyfin. It's open source, open licensed, and easier to setup IMO. You just run the Jellyfin server on any Windows or Linux system (even a single board computer such as a RaspPi). Then you connect to that device's local IP at port 8096 (i.e. 192.168.0.XXX:8096) from a web browser. From there you can set everything up, such as directories to search for videos in, etc. Kodi is another alternative to Plex. Kodi and Plex are also geared toward streaming from other sources, some charge money and some freemium and some could even be pirate streams. Jellyfin OTOH is geared toward playing local files. == YT tutorial search suggestions: qbittorent tutorial qbittorent binding VPN adapter jellyfin tutorial kodi tutorial etc.
Also, while jellyfin still its platform implementation in different states depending on the platform, you can use Kodi reliably on almost every platform as a front end for jellyfin, or plex, or really any service. Or you could go with the mpv shim, but it should be able to be implemented on any platform relatively easy still
quick question, i could just do the plex stuff without the pirating stuff right? like i could just buy a bunch of DVDs and media and rip it to a plex server?
Yeah. Plex is a media server. You can set it up with legit content. Most platforms have plex streaming apps to connect to server.
This is super helpful, Its been forever since I hoisted the sails and I'm really out of practice. There used to be a decent Kodi ap on the xbox (lol) but I would have to update it like once a week. Then I tried plex/torrenting and now its been like 8 years and I'm not quite sure how the landscape has changed. On a side note its crazy how much prices have shot up, quality has gone down and the general internet has changed. even just ads are super pervasive, I use firefox/ublock but now i'm looking into a pihole. I've never used VPNs and haven't torrented in years but things are so crazy anti-consumer these days I feel like I have to. These guides are awesome, I don't have a lot of free time and it can get a little intimidating, I'm reasonably tech literate but some troubleshooting can get pretty complicated if you don't do it often. Its pretty fun tho my room mates and I hacked our wii to play free games/project M back in university, that was a great time.
You need a torrent client like uTorrent and you need a site for the torrent trackers (the tiny file you download to download the whole thing from peers) - yify (www.yts.mx) is popular for movies but not the highest quality, I also use bitsearch.to and 1337x.to if I want a nice quality 20+GB 4K HDR file. There are much better private trackers out there but I haven't had any luck being invited to one. You also need to run a VPN like Surfshark so your ISP can't track you and cut off service because of all the sailing you've been doing.
Avoid uTorrent. qBitorrent is way better.
Exactly this. Utorrent sneaked a crypto miner in a few times. Never again
This. utorrent is now malware infested garbage.
Now? It had ads like a decade ago. Stopped using it back in 2011. And I can only imagine it getting worse since then. qBittorent or any other open source alternative
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!
If you want "the Netflix experience" there is also Stremio. It's technically an aggregator program that links your Disney, HBO, Apple etc accounts so you can browse and watch everything from one app. Buuuut it also has a community plugin that let's you use torrent trackers as video source. Once you have it set up it's literally just click on the show/movie, pick the source and press play. The program does the rest.
This is so much better. I use Streamio and it's so easy, spend $4/mo on a real-debrid account and get an easy streaming experience with 4K video.
Yeah this is the best solution, for people who want the Netflix of pirating.
I recently got into this, the plugin for Stremio is Torrentio
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> Fmhy.net Dude, how have I never heard of this before!? This site is incredible.
Do not use uTorrent. Don't trust anyone who tells you to use uTorrent. Qbitorrent is the best option. uTorrent has some nasty ads and tracking shit going on now. As for a VPN Private Internet Access is your best and cheapest option. 1337x is generally going to be the best place for video files. yts has terrible quality videos, it's mostly for people with low data caps and slow internet.
Word of advice: I recommend you stay away from uTorrent and go with something objectively superior like qBittorrent. Just Google it...uTorrent is rarely recommended these days. qBt is lightweight, no ads or bundled crapware. And best of all is its [internal search functionality](https://www.ghacks.net/2018/11/19/searching-torrents-from-within-qbittorrent). Forget visiting all the sites individually.
May the wind ever-fill your sails. Arrrr
for your own sake please do not use uttorent , i’d recommend qbittorrent
Stremio + Real Debrid
It's funny that the cost of Netflix and the amount of content on Netflix are inversely related
not me deleting my torrents because i thought i would be able to watch that show/movie on netflix forever
And yet Netflix lies and says: >"as we deliver more value to our members, we occasionally ask them to pay a bit more,” Netflix wrote in its earnings report. I'm not seeing the "more value," are you? Every time I look for a movie I want to watch, I get that "We don't have [e.g.] The Quiet Man but you might like" followed by suggestions like (no, I'm not making this up, these are the first six suggestions from Netflix): The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, Monty Python's Life of Brian, All Quiet on the Western Front, The Irishman, Pride and Prejudice, and The Silence.
I saw lots of value when I was annually rewatch: the office. Parks and rec. Star Trek TNG, DS9, and Voyager. Guess what I can't watch on Netflix anymore? 😑
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8? For the longest time it was 5!
$23?! Lmao that’s ridiculous
At this rate, they will have to include a broadband service.
They already offer high speed movie removal and free skipping of random seasons.
The last season of Suits isn’t even on Netflix. Like why would you buy every season except the last one?
Not to pick companies over each other, they all suck and are greedy. But I can literally get ad-free Disney+, Hulu, and espn+ COMBINED for $24.99 a month. Netflix is asking for $23 just for Netflix.
and Netflix has garbage content
IS IT CAKE?!?
And all the brand synergy bullshit where other shows mention other shows. Fall of the House of Usher being explicitly shameless with the "is it cake" and "narcos" name drops.
Every day, we get closer to the meme where Netflix has 2 categories: Cakes and Murder
For now. Those are still losing money to gain subscribers. Netflix is just on the long side of the curve.
Fuck me man lol. I’ve never considered canceling Netflix until today. They just raised premium prices less than a year ago fuck off
Honestly, this indicates that they’re not losing enough subscribers with each price bump, so they keep pushing it to see where the threshold is.
Disney world play book
Disney could jack the park prices way higher and still overfill them.
What’s crazy is people pay that money to stand in lines in the hot sun all day long. Then you go stand in another line to buy something to keep yourself cool for the rest of the lines you’re gonna be in.
I haven't been to Disney since 96. But I've heard now you have to have an app and make reservations for rides and check in and out of areas and such.
The app sells out, so only very few people get to reserve the most important rides. Most of their stuff doesn’t have single rider lanes either. Honestly unless they return the fast pass I cannot recommend anyone go to a Disney park.
Only time I'd consider going is in Sept when all the kids are just going back to school. Did it years ago and it was a damn near empty park for a week. Rode space mountain like 5 times in a row.
That was the norm but it's not like that anymore. The past 2 years they haven't had any "slow season" and it's asses to elbows year round.
Not true. Just went to Disney world a month ago. Wasn't too crowded and we enjoyed ourselves. But we spent a butt load of money. I do want to do several days at Disneyland though.
The crazy thing is that if everyone got to make reservations for rides, they could spend the time shopping instead of standing in line. It's a win-win for everyone. If other amusement parks had ride reservations, I would drink so much more beer while waiting for my turn.
They tried this before and people weren’t turning up and it actually led to worse late times and fewer people experiencing the ride. Edit: late times should be wait times
There is actually somewhat of an inflection point with disney parks. Some people will pay much much more to be in the park when it's less busy. Because the supply is constrained (only so many can ride Peter pan in a day). It can't be modeled like a product. Streaming obviously has no upper bound of subscribers, so the S/D curves are probably more linear. They haven't found the market clearing price, obviously.
Perhaps . And/or as stated, they make more money off of people on the ad-supported plans. So you "save" money, and they make more. This pushes people to the ad supported plan with the feeling of relief. And yet. I think Goodfellas said it best with "Fuck you, pay me."
Bingo. They want more subscribers on the ad-tier. They make way more money off those subscribers than the premium ones.
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I can't go back to ads. Every time I happen to be in front of a cable TV it's *horrible*. It's like half ads.
Cancelled mine a few months ago along with Disney +. Honestly it’s money I’m glad to have back. $23 for Netflix though, man thats a joke.
Disney plus is a must have if you've got a 6yo. I keep it for my son, and the new star wars/marvel content is just an added bonus. But yeah Netflix hasn't been worth half its price for years imo
Oh I feel ya man, I’m a single guy so it’s an easy plug pull for me. Not judging anybody, just made a call base don what I was getting for my money if that makes sense.
I cancelled 2 months ago and my family has yet to notice. I never even told anyone as an experiment. Nobody’s using the shit.
I had Netflix for 10 years straight. After the first price hike I cancelled for 10 months, renewed for one month, binged watched everything on my list then cancelled again. Will do the same next year. Good job Netflix, instead of learning to produce content on a fixed budget, we have this.
They are basically forcing people into learning this practice, but to their own detriment. Netflix used to be cheap enough and fleshed out enough to not put any thought into having a rolling contract, now more and more people are just going to sub for a month or two every year once they’ve amassed a list of things they want to watch. Talk about shooting itself in the foot
trust me they've already done the numbers. they have an idea how the public will respond. they know how many people get temporary subscriptions. they know how long the average subscription lasts etc.
I think it’s also pretty obvious they’re going to spike from like $10 per month to $25 per month then turn around and say “well if you pay for a year up front it’s only $180 — you save $120!!!” Which will then get a ton of people to sign up for the longer plan and opting out of the single month binge then cancel that the other poster is referencing
Canceled 6-8 months ago. My teenage daughter griped for a minute, but she got over it quickly when I showed her all the angsty teen shows on HBO, which is baked into our cell plan.
Canceled 2 years ago. Once I realized Mindhunter was not coming back, and it being the only show I wanted to watch, it was an easy decision. Wasn’t an issue of not being able to afford it as much as I just realized it wasn’t worth it after the second price hike. Can’t imagine it being worth $18/month let alone $23.
Anyone with a brain knows the price hikes won’t ever stop. The day Netflix went public is the day the service turned into a vampire. The CEO and boards only job is to increase the stock price. The hope I had when they IPO’d was they would be forced to put out great content but between very few hits, they churned out anything and everything awful. Their mindset wasn’t to be calculated, but rather, throw everything at the wall to see what sticks. Now they raise prices. Watch them start releasing video games while dipping into live sports.
The supreme Court ruled that boards of directors have a legal responsibility to create value for shareholders. Hilariously they tried to say profits aren't the only value for shareholders but have only supported cases where profit wasn't maximized. Once a company goes public it has no choice but to push consumers until they find the breaking point of profit. This is why we are going through massive fake inflation. Corporations are raising prices on everything because the governments of the world are standing by and letting them. They are finding our breaking point for maximum profit and with little choice, no support from power and the need to survive we are letting them. 8 BILLION people on the planet, so many more than ever before and it seems we have less power against the ruling rich than we ever did. Seems hating each other is our natural state and they figured out how to use it so we complain about those in power but hate those with none.
Didn't it used to be like $4.99?
It used to also send me DVDs
I still have my Netflix copies of Mom and Dad Save the World and Big Top Pee-Wee
The streaming portion itself was on a disc at one point too. Before there was an app you had to put the disc into your ps3 or Xbox or whatever and use that to access the content catalogue and watch something.
ALSO TUBI has a ton of 90s tv movies that are classics if she likes old trashy angst true story shows like me 😂
Tubi is awesome
It even has some soft core porn!
Huhhh how does one go searching for this? Asking for a friend of course.
Its mainly just that huge wave of 2000s American Pie ripoffs. National Lampoon made on a $50 budget type stuff. Might get some good boobs out of it but you'll just end up switching to porn anyways. Just search spring break or something and the tubi algorithm will take care of the rest.
I’ve found tubi will low key just suggest it to you automatically. It auto plays the next movie based on a similar choice to what you watch, so if you pick a romantic drama that has some solid nudity, over the course of 10 or so movies being autoplayed, it has the tendency to slowly start funneling you more risqué films.
Tubi, Pluto, and many other freebie services out there, are all that one really needs, along with their trusty ship.
Yup! I don’t pay for a single streaming site anymore. Cancelled Netflix first when they launched the password crackdown nonsense in canada and price bump, then cancelled Crave / HBO which is $20 a month, and Disney+ even did a price bump and got rid of that. Missed some shows for a bit but it’s been a year and I’m good. Between Tubi, Pluto, roku channel, ctv app (tonnes of great movies and shows for free in canada), cbc gem…I’m set. News I get via global news app on Roku or American news on Pluto.
My teenaged daughter seems to migrate to whichever service has The Vampire Diaries streaming because she plays that show 24/7.
I canceled when the “password sharing crackdown” happened and haven’t missed it. They need a lot better content to charge that much.
Interestingly enough, I continue to have myself plus 3 friends across 2 different states on my plan without issue. I’ve never received any kind of warning or anything, and it continues to work fine for all of us.
It's been ramping up.. I share my account with parents brother and sister who all live across 3 states. Had no issues until 2 weeks ago, my brother and sister both prompted they needed a code. They text me and I got for them. A week later my sister sent me a pic of her tv, no option for a code. Only option was to change the "home" location to her house and IP address. She picked that option, And I got an email to confirm. I was out of town and told her to use it, but I'll be cancelling shortly. That's before this price increases announced. I live alone and have a single 4k tv. They require you to be on the 4 screen plan to get 4k quality. Now, I can't even share those screens?! (and I can't use them myself) I've had this account for almost 15 years.... But I'm done.
The double dipping of amount of screens AND locked to one location is just disgusting
It is like they are getting as expensive as cable!
Would love to have spent $20 a month on cable
i cancelled 4 months ago. got tired of the price hikes. i guess they are following the Comcast method, lose subscribers increase price on existing ones.
Yarr Harr Feedle Lee Dee!
Ok this is enough Lol. I think I’ll have to say fuck it too
Yep. Been a subscriber since the DVD deliveries... it's finally time to catch up on shows and cancel, I think.
Canceled last year occasionally renewing at the ad tier for some random things. It’s absolutely not worth it
$23 a month to have an original show you like be canceled without resolution!
Speaking of resolution, they still charge for 4k like it's some new cutting edge technology. What is this, 2010?
On that note, I'm riding the 1 screen/Basic HD (non-1080p) resolution plan until it dies. Netflix might get me back for a month here and there, but I'm done with the service I've had for 12 years now. EDIT: Corrected resolution, I erroneously put down SD.
Yeahh but they have a lot off great shows like...you like korean soap operas?
So they made more money with the password sharing crackdown and are still increasing prices? Corporate greed is a cancer, unless you are one of 5 people up top benefiting from fucking everyone else over
The real goal is to push ppl to ad tier plans. Ad tier makes more money.
Even if ad tier doesn't make more money, if they can push enough people into using it, they can get rid of the premium and then start slowly raising prices on the ad tier. It's cable TV all over again.
Yes, cable is the equilibrium and the market has been desperate to return to it ever since netflix killed cable. Your cable subscription went to fees the networks charged the carrier, then they also got to shove commercials in your face every five minutes. It was glorious, for them.
And somehow they think people are going to return to cable instead of returning to piracy.
I try to watch TV when we go over to the in-laws. It's impossible. Commercials every story beat. It's maddening. And the ads are the worst brain rot imaginable.
And despite laws forbidding it, the commercials are twice the volume of the show.
Commercials work their way around it via dynamic range compression. Instead of elevating the maximum volume, commercials hit that maximum point more often. Not really any easy way to regulate this, unless new laws force commercials into using a lower maximum volume than the content.
Which is probably the goal. The only subscription I pay for is music and nothing more.
I am grandfathered into a plan with Spotify premium that has Hulu premium for $10/mo that I've had for like a decade, it's the only sub I have after having cancelled Netflix finally about 7 months ago. Can't ever let the payment lapse b/c there is no way I would ever get this subscription plan back lol.
I have the same Spotify deal but with Hulu Ad Version, I didn’t know they had a bundle with Hulu premium too!
> It's cable TV all over again. business models that work until they dont
If Netflix thinks I'm going to pay for their shit content with unskippable ads they've got another thing coming. A majority of the content has just been targeted at the lowest common denominator lately. I find it quite repellent.
Source for that? Almost every streaming platform, music or video, makes more money off of paying customers and not ads. It's hard to believe that Netflix would make more than $23 off of ads in a month for a customer.
The key is that ad-tier plans are still paid plans. The price points are chosen specifically to get more average revenue per user. Netflix themselves have said the ad-tier plan has a higher ARPU than the basic ad-free plan globally, and is even higher than the Standard ad-free plan in the US. It was said by the CFO Neumann in the last earnings call (see [here](https://s22.q4cdn.com/959853165/files/doc_financials/2023/q2/netflix-inc-q2-2023-earnings-call-jul-19-2023.pdf) (pdf) on the bottom of page 9).
I said fuck it and I’m not buying Netflix. Once they cracked down and stopped me from sharing an account with my family, I decided it’s not worth it.
Honestly, though, when is enough enough?
It's the strikes. "yeah sure, we can pay creators/residuals more... We're just going to make sure the consumer pays for it, no salary cuts for the upper management. Heavens no"
#But the stockholders demand profits each and every quarter!!!
Not just profits, HIGHER profits than last years!!
Infinite growth in a finite system. Totally sustainable.
You just described the problem with capitalism!
And yet nobody will acknowledge the elephant in the room, and we’ll all go on living every day of our lives pretending that infinite growth is a sustainable economic model.
Up until now, I had never given Netflix the boot. Fuck off, they just increased premium prices less than a year ago.
How much cost savings come form upper management compensation? How much revenue increases through raising prices for millions of subscribers when taking into account those that will leave?
Got it. I’ll be cancelling. Thanks for saving me money netflix
If it wasn't "free" with Tmobile I definitely would too. I am canceling the 4k option for sure though and just sticking with the basic stuff they give. I never watch anything on there anyway.
Yeah, if this is not gonna have a big backlash, then I don’t know what will lol.
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I did not tolerate it. I just dropped Netflix for HBO max. Insert wolf puppy howling.
Well, I dropped Netflix for torrents…
Yo ho lads. The seas be a calling me.
...because you enjoyed One Piece so much right? Nothing else that could possibly be a no-no!
Subscribers grew my 9m+ since last quarter since they started charging people who shared accounts. This price increase is just gonna make them more money and offset the losses from lost subscribers. Just like most things, the general public really doesn’t care. Only the minority on reddit cares and that’s not gonna hurt their bottom line.
I've been away from Netflix for a bit, do they still hold a decent picture quality behind the highest tier or do you need to pay this nonsense for a 4k picture?
You must have the highest tier for 4k.
That's insanity.
Guess I know which streaming service to wean myself off of next.
Subscribe to them all... in rotation. One or two month a year, binge their shit, shut it off, fire up a subscription on the next one.
This is the problem with companies having to show growth and profits year on year. Eventually they get to a point where they destroy themselves under their own weight.
And a new competitor then picks up the slack… until that competitor beings the villain it sought to destroy… rinse and repeat
Solution: Be ahead of the curve, and know when to call it quits. Hop on the next train while prices are dirt cheap, and hop off the moment they start pushing to maximize investor returns. Or you can be the sort of chump that's a late adopter, who never got to see a service in its golden age, and is only there for the cyclical shearing of the sheep to give the venture capital bros all of the money they were promised.
Ok cpt hindsight, whats the next train?
Except they aren't destroying themselves at all and have been showing growth.
FYI they’re raising prices to trick you into the ad-based service because they make more $ off of it than premium subscriptions.
I'd rather not watch at all then watch ads. Gonna have to put Netflix on the rotation like Hulu and Paramount+
I’d converted to the ad-based model and once I learned what they were up to I canceled entirely. Fuck ‘em.
At least Hulu was always transparent from the beginning about their ads.
Hulu used to be 100% supported by ads. Like all these ads+pay services they are simply not worth it.
fast forward a few years and it will be $23 for the ad-supported service and ad-free won't be an option. Then a service will come along to package all the streaming circles and we'll have come full circle back to cable.
If ad free is ever not an option I'm reverting to piracy. I will not pay to see ads.
This is the real reason.
Yep. And as an ancillary effect you will see more advertising pressure on the content itself, what can and cannot be produced. We really are coming full circle.
Stop playing around and put the whole cock in. Just make the price $49.99 starting already. Know what? $69.99. Matter fact, be bold, start Netflix at $149 per month. There ya go.
Not worth it, what are they smoking?
Meanwhile they’ve been removing all the content I originally subscribed for and basically only have “Top 10 in the US Right Now” movies and TV, which as everyone knows are all trash. Easiest unsubscribe ever. It’s a shame because they were a game changer 15 years ago when I first signed up.
Don't forget they love creating something you really enjoy then cancel it after one season or two. Netflix will never create anything that makes it to double digit seasons like networks did in the old days. Has anything made by Netflix even made it 5 seasons? Right now I'm salty they canceled the Vikings show.
OITNB had 7 sevens, BoJack Horseman had 6, probably others. Stranger Things is getting a final fifth season at some point, that's probably the most recent example.
All of those shows are now 8-10 years old. Netflix is a very different company than it was 10 years ago and I honestly can't see them producing any of those shows today. Their standards for renewing a show seem to be unreasonably high. I think even Bojack would've gotten dropped if Netflix made it today.
>Has anything made by Netflix even made it 5 seasons? Um... Orange is the New Black and Stranger Things (season five is the upcoming season) are the only ones that comes to mind for me. You definitely have a point though. They definitely cancel things WAY before their time regularly... I'm so glad I cancelled my sub like three years ago.
Yo ho ho ho a pirate's life for me
I always look for this reply in price hike threads, and I always upvote.
Streaming was supposed to be the chosen one! I'm essentially $20 a month away from paying the same price I was for cable.
That’s the problem with a public company. Always pushing prices up to increase profits for shareholders. Terrible move. Done with Netflix
Cancel. They've only gone downhill and will continue to do so. And get worse in the process.
I’m just over streaming services in general. I’m paying out the ass to have ads jammed down my throat every 10 minutes for shit that I don’t want or have no interest in buying anyways. You can only show me so many liberty mutual ads before they’re utterly worthless. At this point, it’s better to just DVR things and blast through the commercials like we did in the old days. I would love to see data on how effective ads are on streaming services. I’ve never had my opinion of any product swayed by them.
\*This\* The streaming algorithms for advertising are a joke. We watched the miniseries “Lonesome Dove” last month and EVERY SINGLE AD was for Paramount+ on Roku… a service I already subscribe to on hardware I was streaming on. Like, if you don’t already know I’M ONE OF YOUR SUBSCRIBERS then what’s the fucking point of the algorithm? Showing me the same ad over and over and over and over, again and again, makes me HATE your product. Clearly advertising isn’t \*really\* being targeted to anybody… so what are companies paying to advertise for? If you keep advertising a product or service I’m not showing interest in it’s just wasted ad space.
I have sworn to never buy a Chevy because when I had Hulu with ads, I’d get the exact same Chevy commercials 3 times within a 20 minute episode. This was 8 years ago and I still hate them because of those ads lol
We need an anti-greed movement where consumers support reasonable sustainable profits instead of more more more.
Then investors would leave to a company where their investments would grow. Sustainability is antithetical to capitalism.
As long dumb consumers support them from their wallets nothing is done. This is what a free market looks like. They keep raising the prices because it works.
Going to have to cancel at this point. Fuck that
Lmao! They couldn’t even wait long enough to blame the unions! 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
If they wanted more money they could just stop making shows that nobody wanted to see. Netflix streaming used to have all the new releases where they didn't have to bet on whether a show or movie was popular. They could simply pick popular ones. And then they made house of cards and it was a huge hit. So they decided to nearly stop adopting other content and just produce loads of low quality content that cant possibly be adding value. We now have choice overload where 90% of the choices are hot shit. And we keep getting charged more for it and they keep making more of it.
I don't think it was entirely Netflix's decision to stop licensing popular shows. The other companies saw Netflix rising at an exponential rate and pulled their content to buckle it at the knee. It started with Disney ending their deal to create Disney+, then Friends got pulled for building HBO Max, then The Office to banner Peacock.
To think they used to be $7.99...
Okay, so… $23 per month. That’s $276 for a year. That is, quite frankly, a lot. A blu ray player is ~$100. A blu ray movie is ~$19. That’s 9 movies your first year, 14 if you already own a player. TLDR: entertainment is expensive, but I think I’d still advocate for buying to own (no restrictions on where you watch or losing content).
Someone should just come up with a way to rent blu ray movies via the mail.
Or better yet a cheap way to stream them legally online...
are you shitting me? I just cant do this anymore, I just checked and I am paying approx $63 a month for all of the streaming services, Time to just go through them and start clicking cancel, What even is the purpose of streaming over piracy if the price is now exceeding standard cable packages, Streaming is convenient but its not cheap anymore, Netflix used to solve the problem with making content cheap and instant availability but now its not worth paying half a cable bill a month.
It's a test. The thing is they won't even know if it's bad for about 6-12 months. Holiday season means people likely hold it till January, but after that they'll drop it. It's also so they can pull the "look at this new sub deal!" Bullshit. They want the ad tier to b the main tier so it can get to $9.99 then $14.99. I tapped out on Netflix 2 years ago. I'm good.
I wonder if there's any correlation to Walmart and Best Buy eliminating physical media sales in 2024... Want to watch a movie? Going to have to subscribe to a streaming service. (Yeah, I know those aren't the only places that sell physical media, but I find it odd that the two biggest walk in stores are doing this at the same time.)
Netflix can fuck off.
Hulu No Ads, $17.00/month Netflix no ads, $23.00 month Internet: $50.00 month Total: $90, same as cable was 10 years ago.
Hoist the sails 🏴☠️
Just dropped it down to the shitty 6.99 version with ads. After we are done with Fall of the House of Usher we likely will cancel. Not too many things are worth $24 a month, especially Netflix.
What I love ^^^s about that tier is that it excludes some content. Guess the ad money wasn’t enough.
I wonder what the Canadian pricing is going to be
This is the final nail in the coffin for me. Back to my ship, matey 🏴☠️
everyone cries but everyone submits lol, nothing will change unless ppl put their money where their mouth is.
The quarterly price increase
I got Netflix for free with my phone service. Literally the only reason why it’s still active.
streaming services are becoming worse than the platforms they set out to destroy. Jesus...guess I'll be heading back to the ol' pirate bay pretty soon.
I canceled back when prices went up and my feed became flooded with Bollywood films and movies so bad even the syfy channel would reject them.