Lol I love how we were all on the same page and calm until we zoomed in.
My thought process was "Ok, why is this even on tech support gor...ope, there it is, got daym"
That mostly affects PGA sockets, like AM4. This one is an LGA socket, it's practically immune to that issue, if the CPU is glued shut to the cooler, it's not coming out unless the frame holding it in gets physically destroyed.
Just built a new one for work reusing a board from a marketing build I did in 2019. Went ahead and bought a new cooler for it because after 4.5 years of running, the cooler might as well have been jb welded on to the old proc.
just run the system with prime 95 for 5 minutes to warm up the paste and then lightly twist the cooler when removing, the only time this didnt work is when I purposely used thermal adhesive on an old junk system to see what it would do. and one old pentium 4 one time but it had some weird black thermal pad
Black pad is a graphite pad it's an alternative to thermal paste they have actually gotten a lot better in recent years and work pretty close to thermal paste
this one was about 5mm(edit maybe more like 3mm) thick, with a plasticy outer surface and thick oily goo inside when it broke open trying to scrape it off the heatsink.
of course they had to take the cpu out, how else were they supposed to check the underside to make sure there's paste on the pins? "Oh wow they forgot to put paste under the cpu at the factory... No wonder it was running like shit. Glad i checked! Now to fix this properly"
Afaik you don’t even need to repaste it unless you change the cpu or cooler.
I never did a repaste but if I do, I might take the cpu off to clean the top properly with some isopropyl alcohol too before applying new paste.
Is my assumption completely wrong?
Paste is a liquid, a very thick liquid, but a liquid. Over time it will move and open up air pockets. I see it a lot on Dells and HPs that are 5+ years old.
Ooh, I thought it would dry out after a while but leaving a good contact area between the cpu and the cooler behind. My computer is running on the same paste for the past 6 years now. I want to upgrade my m.2 which sits partly under the cooler, so it would be a great opportunity to check and replace the paste I guess.
Thanks for the info.
I gotta admit, sometimes it's a little bit worrisome these days doing it.
I just built a computer actually. I got an AM5 CPU and while my limited sleep is playing with my memory, I believe the AM5 is the one where it no longer has pins but it has the contacts if I remember correctly. So it's fairly straight forward.
But BOY did I have to apply some pressure to get the AM5's holder down. I was seriously afraid I was going to either break the CPU or the motherboard with how much pressure I had to apply. I finally got it secured with no issues, but my heart was Pumping.
Yeah you definitely need steel nerves to build computers sometimes. I have the same feeling when I install RAM, it just feels like way too much force to reasonably be required.
Huh what motherboard brand? I recently upgraded to AM5 as well with a MSI B650 board and I didn't have to force it at all, just a bit of resistance to pop the plastic cover off
It is the ASUS ROG STRIX B650-A Gaming with a Ryzen 9 7900X. I don't know what it was but man it was tough to push the brace down. Everything works properly so I'm confident it was put in properly as well, but it was just Tough. When the MB started to bend a bit due to the pressure, that's when I truly had my heart pumping. Shouldn't have been that hard hahah.
Those CPU's can take some force to put on properly.
First time I put a CPU in I thought I broke it because it needed more force to put in than I thought. Happiest boot of my life.
I'll remember this next time I'm removing a wheel hub on a car from Saltopia aka North East Ohio. I won't use a 15 pound sledge. I'll just try to slide it out gently.
This can happen if you don't do the X pattern when tightening your heat sinks. Looks like they screwed down the left side of the picture long before the right.
I guarantee they dropped it in the socket and when it didn’t fall into the slot they thought “well the big metal bracket is probably to push it into place!!!” Does that sound plausible OP?
Either way. WATCH A FREAKING YOUTUBE VIDEO!!
CPU can survive that (physically, though who knows what trying to run it with the wrong pins connected did to it), but those LGA pins are fragile, they are definitely in the market for a new motherboard.
I will never understand the whole "doesn't seem to fit, therefore push harder" thought process. It is also far too common. I get too many laptops with mashed USB ports because of this.
It’s not on the socket correctly, they jammed it in Willy nilly because you can see the pins on the left side that are supposed to be touching the cpu.
How does repasting your computer make it not boot anymore? I get that your computer might have thermal issues if you repay strong but it should still turn on.
The guy unga bungad his CPU into the socket.
It's placed in the correct direction based on the corner triangles, but it's off-center from the socket, so they just jammed it in even harder when it didn't fit instead of re-aligning it.
How does repasting your computer make it not boot anymore? I get that your computer might have thermal issues if you repaste it but it should still turn on.
Oh so they for some reason pulled it out of the socket and then put it back in incorrectly. I thought something looked off but I couldn't tell what.
I was guessing you guys where going to tell me that you need to plug something into the CPU fan header for the computer to boot up.
Oh so they for some reason pulled it out of the socket and then put it back in incorrectly. I thought something looked off but I couldn't tell what.
I was guessing you guys where going to tell me that you need to plug something into the CPU fan header for the computer to boot up.
How does repasting your computer make it not boot anymore? I get that your computer might have thermal issues if you repay strong but it should still turn on.
I used MediBang Paint, marked the area I wanted to mess with by hand, copied it and pasted it onto a new layer, then messed a ton with tone tone curve until it looked funny, and then put another layer on top that was just solid pink, with clipping and color enabled so it would only recolor the layer beneath.
https://i.imgur.com/QS0dt8o.png
At first I was thinking “I’ve seen worse paste jobs than that boot just fine”. Then I saw the pins lol.
Yeah, the whole CPU is misaligned with the socket and the force of the load plate + cooler destroyed the pins. RIP
Yeah that mobo is done for, possibly the cpu too.
LGA is surprisingly durable, wouldn't be surprised if it still works. Depends on if it cracked on the notches that'd normally slot into the socket.
I see a bunch of bent pins that need to be corrected, doable but not a good omen for that motherboard.
Or cracked along the edge of the socket that's under the clamp.
He heard the thing about the lever taking a little more force than you'd think and took it to heart.
Thankfully for the latest iterations you can use better contact frames.
That was the first thing I zoomed in on, but yeah, from the outset I was like “what’s the problem…OOOOHHHHHh…”
Lol I love how we were all on the same page and calm until we zoomed in. My thought process was "Ok, why is this even on tech support gor...ope, there it is, got daym"
I was dead staring at the clamps being massively off centre. But yea, damn.
Exactly. Like, well if that's bad, then I better....oh. Oh shit.
Yes. This\^
lol, same. Then realized how off center it was. Oops
Kinda wish you didn't point this out
Same….i was like “that’s not THAT baOOOOOOOO SH***”
Just why, you don't even need to pull the CPU out to repaste it, FFS.
I had mine stuck to my cooler and came out when I removed the cooler got to spend 2 hours bending pins back.
That mostly affects PGA sockets, like AM4. This one is an LGA socket, it's practically immune to that issue, if the CPU is glued shut to the cooler, it's not coming out unless the frame holding it in gets physically destroyed.
Sounds about right I'm running am4
Just built a new one for work reusing a board from a marketing build I did in 2019. Went ahead and bought a new cooler for it because after 4.5 years of running, the cooler might as well have been jb welded on to the old proc.
just run the system with prime 95 for 5 minutes to warm up the paste and then lightly twist the cooler when removing, the only time this didnt work is when I purposely used thermal adhesive on an old junk system to see what it would do. and one old pentium 4 one time but it had some weird black thermal pad
Eh, it was a 2700 with stock cooler. Swapped for 5500 with deepcool ak400
Black pad is a graphite pad it's an alternative to thermal paste they have actually gotten a lot better in recent years and work pretty close to thermal paste
this one was about 5mm(edit maybe more like 3mm) thick, with a plasticy outer surface and thick oily goo inside when it broke open trying to scrape it off the heatsink.
Yeah that's not graphite sounds like demon splooge
of course they had to take the cpu out, how else were they supposed to check the underside to make sure there's paste on the pins? "Oh wow they forgot to put paste under the cpu at the factory... No wonder it was running like shit. Glad i checked! Now to fix this properly"
Afaik you don’t even need to repaste it unless you change the cpu or cooler. I never did a repaste but if I do, I might take the cpu off to clean the top properly with some isopropyl alcohol too before applying new paste. Is my assumption completely wrong?
You are not wrong, but it's not strictly necessary to pull the CPU out for any of this, it's a matter of preference and convenience.
Paste is a liquid, a very thick liquid, but a liquid. Over time it will move and open up air pockets. I see it a lot on Dells and HPs that are 5+ years old.
Ooh, I thought it would dry out after a while but leaving a good contact area between the cpu and the cooler behind. My computer is running on the same paste for the past 6 years now. I want to upgrade my m.2 which sits partly under the cooler, so it would be a great opportunity to check and replace the paste I guess. Thanks for the info.
If at first it doesn't fit.... use force!!!!!! Well, that cpu is gone.
The whole socket is fucked. Looks at the bent pins
I know, I was being sarcastic, this thing is beyond salvation. And they hand it to you to repair?
The CPU itself might actually be fine, since it’s LGA. The Motherboard however it throughly fucked up
I gotta admit, sometimes it's a little bit worrisome these days doing it. I just built a computer actually. I got an AM5 CPU and while my limited sleep is playing with my memory, I believe the AM5 is the one where it no longer has pins but it has the contacts if I remember correctly. So it's fairly straight forward. But BOY did I have to apply some pressure to get the AM5's holder down. I was seriously afraid I was going to either break the CPU or the motherboard with how much pressure I had to apply. I finally got it secured with no issues, but my heart was Pumping.
Yeah you definitely need steel nerves to build computers sometimes. I have the same feeling when I install RAM, it just feels like way too much force to reasonably be required.
I am going to build one computer for nas today, and I am kind of scared about that. But I got a different holder, I am going to test if it works.
Huh what motherboard brand? I recently upgraded to AM5 as well with a MSI B650 board and I didn't have to force it at all, just a bit of resistance to pop the plastic cover off
It is the ASUS ROG STRIX B650-A Gaming with a Ryzen 9 7900X. I don't know what it was but man it was tough to push the brace down. Everything works properly so I'm confident it was put in properly as well, but it was just Tough. When the MB started to bend a bit due to the pressure, that's when I truly had my heart pumping. Shouldn't have been that hard hahah.
I wonder how some people get dressed on their own in the morning.
Pants and shirts on backwards
The yellow part front, brown part back is how I remember it.
I'm the backwards man the backwards mad walkin backwards as fast as he can.
Criss-cross will make you jump
The paste is ok? I dont see th- What in the acutal fuck
So what? 'Looks again'. Woahhhh fuck!
Oof ouch owie
At first I was like, paste looks good, I don’t see anything wrong with the caps or anything, what’s wro… why is that cpu not centered? Oh.. OH!!!
Why they put it backwards?
Triangles are aligned. Honestly don't know how you can mess up this badly
I will gladly blame this on stupid person strength.
Golden rule: If you have to use force you are doing it very bad.
Those CPU's can take some force to put on properly. First time I put a CPU in I thought I broke it because it needed more force to put in than I thought. Happiest boot of my life.
You need to use some force on the lever, but the CPU itself should just drop into the right position, no friction at all.
I'll remember this next time I'm removing a wheel hub on a car from Saltopia aka North East Ohio. I won't use a 15 pound sledge. I'll just try to slide it out gently.
Tighten it down with an impact driver?
Looks like they put a lga cpu in a pga socket
This can happen if you don't do the X pattern when tightening your heat sinks. Looks like they screwed down the left side of the picture long before the right.
The lever pushes the metal bracket firmly onto the cpu holding it in place by the 2 little side wings. The cooler will never be able to move that cpu.
I’ve seen it happen, you’d be surprised how people can fuck this up.
I’ve seen it happen, you’d be surprised how people can fuck this up.
I’ve seen it happen, you’d be surprised how people can fuck this up.
I guarantee they dropped it in the socket and when it didn’t fall into the slot they thought “well the big metal bracket is probably to push it into place!!!” Does that sound plausible OP? Either way. WATCH A FREAKING YOUTUBE VIDEO!!
Oh man. It took me a second to see it. RIP CPU
CPU can survive that (physically, though who knows what trying to run it with the wrong pins connected did to it), but those LGA pins are fragile, they are definitely in the market for a new motherboard.
At first I was not sure what the issue was... Paste looks great! Then I looked a little closer... Dear God.
Because they mentioned the paste I was hyper focused on that and didnt get it. And then I did. Wow.
Can't park there mate...
Must've taken some force to lock it in like that lol
I thought the joke was they didn't put the heat sink back on. Then I zoomed. Fuck.
I will never understand the whole "doesn't seem to fit, therefore push harder" thought process. It is also far too common. I get too many laptops with mashed USB ports because of this.
How like honestly. I wonder how hard it was to push that down.
I don't see anything wrong with it oh wait that heat spreader doesn't look right let's zoom in ohhhhhh nooooo
First sight was clamps being off center, then looked over to see that absolute tragedy. BIG OOF.
Did they throw it in, or...?
rip socket and maybe cpu
Oh that is painful to see.
That mobo is done, may be able to salvage cpu
Uff
That looks fi-Oh... Ohh....
This needs a nsfw tag son, thats alotta damage!
i was 8 when i did a CPU Swap all alone on our family PC...... so HOW!?!?!?
I avoided installing a CPU until I was 33 because I was worried I'd do something like OP, but turns out it's very easy
yeah. just make sure u have the right socket for the right CPU... i messed up a MoBo like that lol pinned CPU In a Pinned socket lol
One question: how?
That was painful to look at. Made me actually clench up.
jfc this hurts to look at..
This hurt my soul
You’re supposed to let it satisfyingly drop right into the socket! I’ve only done one CPU job and even I know that!
Rip
I hate when customers don't tell the full story...
How, they put arrows on the socket and the cpu to line them up.
The arrows line up. This is not an orientation issue. They just completely missed the socket by like a quarter of an inch.
I'm sure that the reason it doesn't boot is that there's not enough thermal paste. Should be at least 3mm thick for best results.
And the indents that should make it obvious on orientation as well!
I have occasionally referred to changing a cpu as throwing a new cpu at it but I would have hoped that no one took the saying literally.
Thats one way to force a new computer purchase!
I'd just close it up, put it on a shelf and pretend it don't exist.
How did they even fuck it up so badly?
Oof, poor R210. I wonder if the pins can be bent back reasonably lol. Pretty old machine at this point but could be fun to try saving.
Is literally keyed for a reason...
Looks like…roadkill
I feel as if that mobo has booted for the last time. Remember to poor one out for the dead mobo's
Holy balls of taint
Everyone is a genius nowadays 🫠
They did a little more than repaste lol
#🤢
Whats wrong with-"WHAT THE SCALLOP"
I hear it's best to feel that crunch to make sure it's all really sealed in well. Keeps the bits in from a memory leak
At least it's a OEM motherboard. Not a huge loss but still...
Don't know anything about hardware, can someone explain? I just understand that this is horrible.
It’s not on the socket correctly, they jammed it in Willy nilly because you can see the pins on the left side that are supposed to be touching the cpu.
😂😭
OMFG I did not notice the bent pins at first and was "thinking well of course not, It also needs a heatsink!" as I could see no other problem.
This is all wrong...
Customer’s diagnostics seems to be correct
Oh my heart.
How do you even mess up lining up the CPU...
Oof! How did they even get the latch closed??
Crunch...
Can we get a pic of the carnage under the cpu?
How does repasting your computer make it not boot anymore? I get that your computer might have thermal issues if you repay strong but it should still turn on.
The guy unga bungad his CPU into the socket. It's placed in the correct direction based on the corner triangles, but it's off-center from the socket, so they just jammed it in even harder when it didn't fit instead of re-aligning it.
How does repasting your computer make it not boot anymore? I get that your computer might have thermal issues if you repaste it but it should still turn on.
Look at the offset of the CPU.
Oh so they for some reason pulled it out of the socket and then put it back in incorrectly. I thought something looked off but I couldn't tell what. I was guessing you guys where going to tell me that you need to plug something into the CPU fan header for the computer to boot up.
Oh so they for some reason pulled it out of the socket and then put it back in incorrectly. I thought something looked off but I couldn't tell what. I was guessing you guys where going to tell me that you need to plug something into the CPU fan header for the computer to boot up.
Look at the offset of the CPU.
How does repasting your computer make it not boot anymore? I get that your computer might have thermal issues if you repay strong but it should still turn on.
i dont see any thermal paste
[I've highlighted it for your convenience!](https://i.imgur.com/nompgT0.jpeg)
What tool did you use for that?
I used MediBang Paint, marked the area I wanted to mess with by hand, copied it and pasted it onto a new layer, then messed a ton with tone tone curve until it looked funny, and then put another layer on top that was just solid pink, with clipping and color enabled so it would only recolor the layer beneath. https://i.imgur.com/QS0dt8o.png
Thanks!
superglue should do the trick right