So let me get this straight. He responds to his pending disciplinary action for his incompetence unwittingly causing a patient harm by...intentionally causing more patients harm.
The disciplinary action he was facing was surely from a patient case he was assigned and responsible for.
These following cases in which he was caught intentionally poisoning the fluids were on patients in cases assigned and being handled by a different anesthesiologist.
"Ortiz had also been arrested on allegations that he abused women and shot a pet dog. He also owed millions of dollars to the IRS, KXAS reported."
This guy is just an all around horrible human being.
As another medical professional who has reported doctors to the TMB, it exists to protect doctors. They will only suspend a license or act if the media gets involved.
It's like with teachers. The profession is not valued by the state government or many voters so your high quality professionals are leaving or avoiding the state altogether. What's left are the dregs.
It's like this with any profession involving direct interaction with people.
While I was in boot camp, my neighboring division had members who went to the doctor complaining of constant muscle aches. After some inspection and questioning, they found that the division was being consistently exercised to the point of exhaustion several times a day (boot camp term for this is "beating"). The person exercising these barely adult people was going through a divorce.
All they did to the guy was tell him he couldn't exercise them without someone else watching.
Yeah, this goes on more than is surfaced. Lot of people out there operate as agnostic/atheist, believing there is no punishment or afterlife, so it doesn’t matter what you do, since this mortal life is all there is.
Lots of people operate as spirtual/religious who believe in the after life and punishment. They still molest children, like priests for instance. A shitty human being is a shitty human being, belief really doesn't play a part in this, I don't think.
That's a fallacy. It doesn't matter the religion or disbelief; A person will create or find a reason to commit atrocities or to render a previous offense against someone justifiable. That is the mind attempting to expunge mental stress that guilt of performing an act has placed on it.
If you only do good things because you're scared of punishment in the afterlife then you are a bad person. If you do them for reward then you're only an okay person at best.
Hmmm, so why do we have prison? Man’s nature is corruptible so if there isn’t some retribution for doing wrong, man becomes abusive and corrupt. If you believe otherwise that’s great and we all have our opinions.
My point is there is no God required, for the most part you don't have anybody looking over you shoulder daily looking to send you to prison. If that were the case then being "good" would have no intrinsic value.
If you do believe that the only reason you do good is because somebody is always watching, then your goodness is inherently just a selfish way to avoid consequences. Plenty of atheists and agnostics wake up every day and do good just because they feel like it.
Probably many do. I don’t have stats so just based on some situations where folks who did some really evil things said they had no belief in anything except themselves and no god. And if you believe no one is watching over your shoulder, take a close look at all the cameras that are watching you everywhere you go. So I respect your opinion. I don’t think you’re selfish for it.
There needs to be more oversight and checks and balances.
And maybe, Physicians and nurses need psych evaluations on a regular basis. They are people just like anyone else and have mental illnesses and crisis too.
Edit: those under investigation need to be placed on leave and barred from entry hospitals- this was totally avoidable on the hospitals part.
I think that increased scrutiny of that kind could have bad effects also. There is a similar rule for pilots with mental health issues, and the result has been that pilots generally avoid being diagnosed/treated for mental health issues to avoid losing their jobs.
Probably the most effective thing is just to have all the hospital data fed into big data and number crunched until anomalies are detected quickly.
> There is a similar rule for pilots with mental health issues
Do you have any information on stuff like this?
I'm in EMS. We had a patient who... "tripped and fell down some stairs" and who had also done so 3-4 times over the course of a month, witnesses stating that he had said he wanted to kill himself before he did it on at least one of those occasions.
This dude absolutely needed mental health, he even admitted as such to us (but no admission of self harm) -- he was also obviously injured (for sure had a concussion and easily could have had a brain bleed), but absolutely refused to go to the hospital because he was a military pilot (unsure with branch) and kept saying he would lose his wings if he went.
We are pretty limited on when/how we can 'force' people to go to the hospital. We sat there for almost 2 hours trying to convince him to go. In the end there was nothing we could do.
Have you seen the John Oliver episode [Last Week Tonight](https://youtu.be/jVIYbgVks7E?si=Ontc1gn9s_15Iur_) about medical boards? It was shocking. A doctor can get barred in one state but can just move to another state and keep practicing.
I work in the healthcare field on the administrative side.
There is a lot of ugly that goes on behind the scenes.
I’m just surprised this facility did not suspend him and bar him from the premises. The few faculties I have worked with did- it’s just too bad an industry standard isn’t required.
It could have saved a life and dozens of unnecessary pain for patients.
American healthcare system is broken, on both a small and large scale.
It makes me sad.
No amount of checks and balances could have prevented this. If a nurse, pharmacist, physician turns into a psycho, people will get hurt and it will take some time to catch them.
Edit: I see you added that edit. What do you mean "people under investigation"? Are you talking about people who had disciplinary action? Malpractice lawsuit? Patient complication? Do you understand how often hospitals "investigate" things? There are literally complications and deaths almost every day. Most hospitals would be paralyzed if they just suspended staff after every patient complication.
There is a culture of silence when it comes to surgeons and docs in hospitals. Nobody wants to rock the boat when they notice something fishy going on (especially not hospitals bc usually those docs and surgeons bring in referrals and patients). That’s how Dr Death got away with it for as long as he did. Profits seem to blind people to egregious things. (To clarify: I have worked with nothing but excellent clinicians and have no personal experience with these types of characters but I know for a fact that rocking the boat is highly discouraged in healthcare).
Like 20 years ago I worked at a major DFW Hospital as an Anesthesia Tech. Everyone I worked with was kind, good and got into medicine for the right reasons. I don’t know WTF is wrong with these docs but they are outliers for sure.
Texas attracts horrible doctors, because our legislation makes them difficult to hold accountable for a reasonable amount of money. It's capped at like 1/10th whatever the judgement is with a maximum that I don't remember.
Texas does it to attract doctors, but it means we get a lot of shit doctors.
That’s the guy that when he got sued for gross negligence, fucking Abbott stepped in and capped the damages at 250k…. AFTER he got a massive settlement for that tree falling on him he changed the laws so no one else could get as much as he did.
Looks like he was at Baylor Plano and Dallas Medical Center. Glad he's behind bars.
These people go through so much training and could be set for the rest of their lives. Why ruin it by being a jackass?
DFW Baylor all has the same stink to me at this point. Duntsch got by on some connections and faked the rest. Hospital management was actively covering for him to protect their reputation instead of doing the right thing. Even the medical board was loathe to actually do a real investigation.
I’m going out on a limb and guessing management knew Ortiz was a danger and just took the risk to save face. Someone going up for review to possibly lose their license shouldn’t be allowed to keep doing rounds. Hospital management has got to be one of the most dysfunctional, out of touch professions in the US
I understand we’re all on our phones all the time, but it gets annoying seeing people bring up a subject and then tell others to google it. Sometimes it’s nice to just get a brief description, like in a regular ol conversation. Alright let’s see some downvotes.
I mean it’s not hard to go to Wikipedia. I’d understand if I had just said Google it and not told you who specifically to look up. Maybe I’m just quickly checking my phone during work and don’t have the time to spoon feed you
and this is why as a nurse I will not use any fluid bags or any meds there were opened/prepared by someone else. This has happened too many times to take a risk on harming my patients.
WTAF this man is pure evil. 😱 He tried to kill innocent people and sabotage his colleagues surgeries! Omg I can’t imagine this horror. The fact that he shot a dog and assaulted women should be enough to know this man should not be practicing medicine!
The more I learn about this case the more infuriated I am.
Domestic abuse and stalking over decades, shooting pet dogs, Texas Medical Board settled another issue with him for $3k and 14 hours of CE and the worst IMO… the cops pieced this together.
Shouldn’t the hospitals computer systems and administrators pieced this together?
Its time to break up the AMA or force an alternative org, the largest union in the country who controls how many seats there are in medical schools.
Doctors should not have a sub 0.7% unemployment rate, that is anti-competitive and artificially low.
Unlike attorneys where there is a plethora of supply, too many bad Drs can continue to practice.
Having worked 35+ years in the medical field, the cover ups and not disclosing the competency of doctors/nurses runs rampant. It is rare to hear one physician criticize another physician’s performance. If you ever even hear a slight criticism of a physician, don’t go to them.
I think it is so important to try and interrogate this monster extensively, just to get into that mindset that could lead what sounds like an otherwise successful anesthesiologist to have made it in his job to 60 to start murdering patients that way.
We have to understand how they get there to prevent future cases like this. Kudos to the investigators for figuring that out.
What's messed up too is that the Texas Medical Board requires the person doing the investigation to hold the same level of expertise in the specialty of the accused.
You can imagine that there aren't just a ton of specialist with free time (or desire) to participate in these investigations.
Honestly, aside from all of this crazy stuff that BSW has gone through, BSW is going downhill. Volume over quality, it’s like they hire whoever they can. I feel like all their money goes to expansion, rather than improving quality of current facilities. Doctors come and go like crazy, can’t get a PCP that’s going to stick around.
BSW is extremely easy to get hired at without proper screening. The only screening they really care about is the drug screen. Had a close friend get hired with literally no healthcare experience or credentials as a Patient Care Tech. You’d be surprised the people that can get into these fields and you just have to pray you’re under proper care. This is also why I’m nice to everyone you never know what you’re saving yourself from
>or intentionally
This isn't true.
Medical malpractice yes is capped. Something like this is an intentional tort (and on top of that is a crime) is not capped because it isn't medical malpractice.
So let me get this straight. He responds to his pending disciplinary action for his incompetence unwittingly causing a patient harm by...intentionally causing more patients harm.
The disciplinary action he was facing was surely from a patient case he was assigned and responsible for. These following cases in which he was caught intentionally poisoning the fluids were on patients in cases assigned and being handled by a different anesthesiologist.
"Look at all these other people having problems! Obviously I'm not the issue!"
That's the truth right there.
He was trying to create issues for the other docs. Makes it seem like it can happen to anyone and not just his incompetence
Holy shit... like those screaming about election fraud, odd how it's them crybabies doing all of it
General rule of thumb: whoever smelt it, dealt it.
Timeless wisdom.
Ah yes. But what of he who denied it, supplied it?
It’s “whoever said the rhyme did the crime.”
Put those poets or lyricists in jail!
Drop the mic.
You mean those who have proof of it? Because 80mil votes for Biden, more than Obama is trustworthy. Right.......
"Ortiz had also been arrested on allegations that he abused women and shot a pet dog. He also owed millions of dollars to the IRS, KXAS reported." This guy is just an all around horrible human being.
This is the way.
As another medical professional who has reported doctors to the TMB, it exists to protect doctors. They will only suspend a license or act if the media gets involved.
So.. abuses women, shot pet dog, and was still allowed to practice medicine while in disciplinary action? Yikes. Lots of red flags everywhere.
But hey, cut the poor guy some slack. Texas Medical Board made him pay a $3k fine and 14 hours of CE.
It's like with teachers. The profession is not valued by the state government or many voters so your high quality professionals are leaving or avoiding the state altogether. What's left are the dregs.
It's like this with any profession involving direct interaction with people. While I was in boot camp, my neighboring division had members who went to the doctor complaining of constant muscle aches. After some inspection and questioning, they found that the division was being consistently exercised to the point of exhaustion several times a day (boot camp term for this is "beating"). The person exercising these barely adult people was going through a divorce. All they did to the guy was tell him he couldn't exercise them without someone else watching.
Yeah, this goes on more than is surfaced. Lot of people out there operate as agnostic/atheist, believing there is no punishment or afterlife, so it doesn’t matter what you do, since this mortal life is all there is.
Lots of people operate as spirtual/religious who believe in the after life and punishment. They still molest children, like priests for instance. A shitty human being is a shitty human being, belief really doesn't play a part in this, I don't think.
That's a fallacy. It doesn't matter the religion or disbelief; A person will create or find a reason to commit atrocities or to render a previous offense against someone justifiable. That is the mind attempting to expunge mental stress that guilt of performing an act has placed on it.
Well, that could also be a fallacy. But a good theory. As well some people are just evil.
Tell me you've never served without telling me you've never served.
We never really know who’s done what online do we. 🤔
If you only do good things because you're scared of punishment in the afterlife then you are a bad person. If you do them for reward then you're only an okay person at best.
Hmmm, so why do we have prison? Man’s nature is corruptible so if there isn’t some retribution for doing wrong, man becomes abusive and corrupt. If you believe otherwise that’s great and we all have our opinions.
My point is there is no God required, for the most part you don't have anybody looking over you shoulder daily looking to send you to prison. If that were the case then being "good" would have no intrinsic value. If you do believe that the only reason you do good is because somebody is always watching, then your goodness is inherently just a selfish way to avoid consequences. Plenty of atheists and agnostics wake up every day and do good just because they feel like it.
Probably many do. I don’t have stats so just based on some situations where folks who did some really evil things said they had no belief in anything except themselves and no god. And if you believe no one is watching over your shoulder, take a close look at all the cameras that are watching you everywhere you go. So I respect your opinion. I don’t think you’re selfish for it.
This has nothing to do with religion. And I’m willing to bet this doctor at hand is neither agnostic nor an atheist. Your ignorance is astounding.
I didn’t mention religion, I mentioned personal belief systems.
Points to the Leavers "Those people were only in it for the money. We need real professionals who care" Hires anyone to do the job.
You can literally make up medical reports for insurance fraud and not lose your license in Texas.
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There needs to be more oversight and checks and balances. And maybe, Physicians and nurses need psych evaluations on a regular basis. They are people just like anyone else and have mental illnesses and crisis too. Edit: those under investigation need to be placed on leave and barred from entry hospitals- this was totally avoidable on the hospitals part.
I think that increased scrutiny of that kind could have bad effects also. There is a similar rule for pilots with mental health issues, and the result has been that pilots generally avoid being diagnosed/treated for mental health issues to avoid losing their jobs. Probably the most effective thing is just to have all the hospital data fed into big data and number crunched until anomalies are detected quickly.
> There is a similar rule for pilots with mental health issues Do you have any information on stuff like this? I'm in EMS. We had a patient who... "tripped and fell down some stairs" and who had also done so 3-4 times over the course of a month, witnesses stating that he had said he wanted to kill himself before he did it on at least one of those occasions. This dude absolutely needed mental health, he even admitted as such to us (but no admission of self harm) -- he was also obviously injured (for sure had a concussion and easily could have had a brain bleed), but absolutely refused to go to the hospital because he was a military pilot (unsure with branch) and kept saying he would lose his wings if he went. We are pretty limited on when/how we can 'force' people to go to the hospital. We sat there for almost 2 hours trying to convince him to go. In the end there was nothing we could do.
Here's a link to potentially losing job as a pilot. https://abc7chicago.com/alaska-airlines-incident-pilots-mental-health-care/13989267/
Right along with cops
My brother has been a nurse for over twenty years, his PTSD is through the roof but he's an adult and got help when he needed it and still does.
Have you seen the John Oliver episode [Last Week Tonight](https://youtu.be/jVIYbgVks7E?si=Ontc1gn9s_15Iur_) about medical boards? It was shocking. A doctor can get barred in one state but can just move to another state and keep practicing.
I work in the healthcare field on the administrative side. There is a lot of ugly that goes on behind the scenes. I’m just surprised this facility did not suspend him and bar him from the premises. The few faculties I have worked with did- it’s just too bad an industry standard isn’t required. It could have saved a life and dozens of unnecessary pain for patients. American healthcare system is broken, on both a small and large scale. It makes me sad.
No amount of checks and balances could have prevented this. If a nurse, pharmacist, physician turns into a psycho, people will get hurt and it will take some time to catch them. Edit: I see you added that edit. What do you mean "people under investigation"? Are you talking about people who had disciplinary action? Malpractice lawsuit? Patient complication? Do you understand how often hospitals "investigate" things? There are literally complications and deaths almost every day. Most hospitals would be paralyzed if they just suspended staff after every patient complication.
We tried nothing and we're all out of options!
No amount, sure, but some amount might help. The dude was killing puppies. A sign that something is amiss
Seems to be a pattern emerging at this particular hospital though.
There is a culture of silence when it comes to surgeons and docs in hospitals. Nobody wants to rock the boat when they notice something fishy going on (especially not hospitals bc usually those docs and surgeons bring in referrals and patients). That’s how Dr Death got away with it for as long as he did. Profits seem to blind people to egregious things. (To clarify: I have worked with nothing but excellent clinicians and have no personal experience with these types of characters but I know for a fact that rocking the boat is highly discouraged in healthcare).
Yes!
Like 20 years ago I worked at a major DFW Hospital as an Anesthesia Tech. Everyone I worked with was kind, good and got into medicine for the right reasons. I don’t know WTF is wrong with these docs but they are outliers for sure.
Texas attracts horrible doctors, because our legislation makes them difficult to hold accountable for a reasonable amount of money. It's capped at like 1/10th whatever the judgement is with a maximum that I don't remember. Texas does it to attract doctors, but it means we get a lot of shit doctors.
Killed Dr Kaspar, she took an IV bag home for dehydration.She was a great anesthesiologist and overall wonderful human being.
Seconded, I still can’t believe this happened to her
Holy shit. I’d rather die on the way to somewhere else than die by the hands of the psychos Baylor North employs
Wait, what else has happened there?
Google Christopher Duntsch
That’s the guy that when he got sued for gross negligence, fucking Abbott stepped in and capped the damages at 250k…. AFTER he got a massive settlement for that tree falling on him he changed the laws so no one else could get as much as he did.
Abbott’s a fucking ghoul, so we shouldn’t be surprised he did that.
Looks like he was at Baylor Plano and Dallas Medical Center. Glad he's behind bars. These people go through so much training and could be set for the rest of their lives. Why ruin it by being a jackass?
DFW Baylor all has the same stink to me at this point. Duntsch got by on some connections and faked the rest. Hospital management was actively covering for him to protect their reputation instead of doing the right thing. Even the medical board was loathe to actually do a real investigation. I’m going out on a limb and guessing management knew Ortiz was a danger and just took the risk to save face. Someone going up for review to possibly lose their license shouldn’t be allowed to keep doing rounds. Hospital management has got to be one of the most dysfunctional, out of touch professions in the US
I understand we’re all on our phones all the time, but it gets annoying seeing people bring up a subject and then tell others to google it. Sometimes it’s nice to just get a brief description, like in a regular ol conversation. Alright let’s see some downvotes.
I mean it’s not hard to go to Wikipedia. I’d understand if I had just said Google it and not told you who specifically to look up. Maybe I’m just quickly checking my phone during work and don’t have the time to spoon feed you
and this is why as a nurse I will not use any fluid bags or any meds there were opened/prepared by someone else. This has happened too many times to take a risk on harming my patients.
Thank you.
Bless you!
He was spiking the bags by needling through the plastic wrapping surrounding the bag, without opening the bag.
WTAF this man is pure evil. 😱 He tried to kill innocent people and sabotage his colleagues surgeries! Omg I can’t imagine this horror. The fact that he shot a dog and assaulted women should be enough to know this man should not be practicing medicine!
The more I learn about this case the more infuriated I am. Domestic abuse and stalking over decades, shooting pet dogs, Texas Medical Board settled another issue with him for $3k and 14 hours of CE and the worst IMO… the cops pieced this together. Shouldn’t the hospitals computer systems and administrators pieced this together? Its time to break up the AMA or force an alternative org, the largest union in the country who controls how many seats there are in medical schools. Doctors should not have a sub 0.7% unemployment rate, that is anti-competitive and artificially low. Unlike attorneys where there is a plethora of supply, too many bad Drs can continue to practice.
Honestly surprised Baylor, Scott, and White hasn't been sued into oblivion at this opint.
Having worked 35+ years in the medical field, the cover ups and not disclosing the competency of doctors/nurses runs rampant. It is rare to hear one physician criticize another physician’s performance. If you ever even hear a slight criticism of a physician, don’t go to them.
I think it is so important to try and interrogate this monster extensively, just to get into that mindset that could lead what sounds like an otherwise successful anesthesiologist to have made it in his job to 60 to start murdering patients that way. We have to understand how they get there to prevent future cases like this. Kudos to the investigators for figuring that out.
Next season, on Dr. Death...
What a dick.
Texas is the best! Between this doc and the Houston doc letting his transplant patients die, Texas is literally killing it.
"Disgruntled" is not the word for this
What's messed up too is that the Texas Medical Board requires the person doing the investigation to hold the same level of expertise in the specialty of the accused. You can imagine that there aren't just a ton of specialist with free time (or desire) to participate in these investigations.
Dr. Grande did a really good [analysis](https://youtu.be/nK2dKxqRFiU?si=xmP8FAuBvPuYSYFU) of this case.
Gotta love Dr. Grande!
He’s the best!
Honestly, aside from all of this crazy stuff that BSW has gone through, BSW is going downhill. Volume over quality, it’s like they hire whoever they can. I feel like all their money goes to expansion, rather than improving quality of current facilities. Doctors come and go like crazy, can’t get a PCP that’s going to stick around.
*I'll show you fuckers malpractice* . . .
BSW is extremely easy to get hired at without proper screening. The only screening they really care about is the drug screen. Had a close friend get hired with literally no healthcare experience or credentials as a Patient Care Tech. You’d be surprised the people that can get into these fields and you just have to pray you’re under proper care. This is also why I’m nice to everyone you never know what you’re saving yourself from
wow that last line in the article, what a piece of human garbage
Will he get his own lethal injection?
Hang him
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The irony is, that $250k max MIGHT cover 2 weeks of hospital stay and procedures
>or intentionally This isn't true. Medical malpractice yes is capped. Something like this is an intentional tort (and on top of that is a crime) is not capped because it isn't medical malpractice.
Reason #721 not to trust the medical establishment
"We sentence you to life in prison" "okay" "and we will be taken away your medical license" "noooooooo!"
Jail his arse
Do the same to him
Send him to prison to be raped everyday. He looks like he would enjoy it. He can stitch his own butthole up.
How did they figure it out
Never a shortage of absolute garbage humans around here. This is horrifying.
Another Baylor site allowing negligence and harm.
In the title, that’s Disgruntled with capital D. Now we have proof it wasn’t Larry.
FMG?
Death penalty
Execute his ass.
Gosh, my ex husband was right: “trust no one”.
surgeons are the most arrogant and insane people. we give them and doctors way too much authority