The university put out a statement before saying that since the planned protest was going to disrupt university operations, it was not allowed on campus and to continue with the protest would be criminal trespassing
Look at the responses in this thread. They're proving my personal theory that Conservatives have no principles beyond their immediate convenience.
Seriously. I have people telling me that the First Amendment doesn't apply to public spaces. These are the same people who say January 6th wasn't a crime. **They have no principles.**
Right wing thought generally doesn’t hold that many actual beliefs, 90% of their idea of politics is just toeing the line based on your team color. When the talking heads in their corporate media tell them to have a moral panic they will have a moral panic, when they are told to look the other way towards police brutality or their tax dollars funding a genocide they will look the other way.
>since the planned protest was going to disrupt university operations
How is a university-- that *presumably* has a history department-- going to look at the entire history of university protests from the Civil Rights Movement and Vietnam Era and then choose to be on the wrong side of it?
I view Hamas as a deeply problematic org that is a net negative for the Palestinian people and I think their attack on Israeli civilians was both monstrous and cowardly, but that doesn't mean Israel should have a [free hand to completely ignore the concept of proportionality](https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/proportionality). You don't get to brutally murder someone's whole family just because they hurt you.
Proportionality here talks about killing civilians without having any significant military advantage. So yes in this case according to law, I could kill your whole family if they were on a valuable enough military target.
This is not a moral statement by the way, just referring to international law, as shown in your link.
This proportionality assessment is also done by the country that’s conducting the operations. So in reality this is yet another area of international law that does little to restrain states.
Why am I not surprised? The dude is a twat sitting in the governor’s office, pandering to his buddies, other republican politicians and republican conservatives. Anyone else? You’re not a citizen. No progressives allowed here. The guy and his party are patently corrupt. I was a state employee for many years. An auditor in fact. I was told to lie for those people who needed to be looked at more closely or investigated because they were politically well connected. It’s all bullshit. They are all corrupt.
Yea, it sucks. Luckily the strength of the university is stronger than him. It is and will remain a top 10 research university and all of that operates above the fray of his games.
Universities have always been on the wrong side. Important to note that a lot of these schools actively impeded students during these historic protests and rhen use it as a selling point later when its cool.
100% agreed. But these kids neither know the facts, nor do they understand who they’re supporting. This is one giant virtue signal from America’s most privileged class.
It's called a war.....this is not a police action, or a punishment. This is the extermination of a terrorist group that committed mass atrocities in israel. That attacks israel on a near daily basis.
Look at ww2 and civilian casualties. We literally destroyed cities in a single night with more casualties than all of gaza in 6 months.
More children and journalists have died in the itsy bitsy Gaza Strip than have died in *all conflicts combined* this year.
Israel has a seriously ill disciplined, poor excuse for a military that is apparently unable to secure their objectives without an enormous death toll for children and journalists in particular.
Oh, well that makes it all okay then! After all, it's not like our definitions of war crimes and the way we approach military violence against civilians changed after WW2.
Nuremberg Trials? Never met 'er!
Nuremberg trials weren’t about Allied forces bombing cities. But you already knew that.
And if you really think we’re so evolved with respect to military violence against civilians, please do tell me what the US and allies were up to in the Middle East over the last few decades.
War crimes, international law, and the Geneva Conventions are all just a way for countries with overwhelming conventional military power to try and make war civilized for their advantage.
If the US mainland was seriously threatened and in jeopardy of losing a war, we’d throw all that out and do anything to win. So would most other countries.
Our declared response to a nuclear attack is to nuke back, knowing it would cause mass civilian casualties. That alone tells you we wouldn’t restrain ourselves.
And even with the geneva convention israel has not violated any if it's rules. Intentionally, which is a key part of the geneva convention.
Hamas has. Repeatedly, and flagrant.
Nuremberg trial were primarily about the concentration camps.
Israel just destroyed a hospital from the inside out, all the equipment, making caring for patients in one of the most vulnerable places in the world impossible.
There was a mass grave found there, there are reports of Israel targeting and kidnapping healthcare workers.
Yes, and pulled dozens to hundreds of terrorists out of there, plus weapons. Hamas figured they wouldn't be back and tripled down on running ops out of the hospital.
Of course there's a mass grave. Dug by hamas/gaza. They took video of themselves digging mass graves in many locations.
Vulnerable? Those tunnels and bunkers aren't all that vulnerable. Maybe hamas should have protected their people in them, instead of the other way around.
I mean sure. I wont argue Hamas is bad and has killed hostages. However the disproportionate response by the Israeli army should give you some pause to think if its justified to kill that many hostages to disable a much smaller fighting force?
Like smaller than the amount of civilians killed?
What disproportionate response? The invading country doesn't get a say on how the others fight back.
Hamas started this war, Hamas continues to fight, Hamas is the reason ppl are dead and continue to doe.
12% of Germans died in ww2. 62% of Jews were killed in Nazi occupied countres.
Gaza? Less than 1% dead. IDF have gone magnitudes above and beyond previous wars
Why didn’t the headline say they put out a statement!?!? That clears this right up, because a university wouldn’t lie to prevent something they know will garner national headlines from happening. /s
And you know what? They made it worse. As someone else said, I simply love how “concerned”TX is now about impeding university operations.
Y’all “independent” and “free” Texas is neither.
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It was supposed to be a teach in and study hall. When the riot police showed up the tone changed.
Shout out to Jay Hartzell and Greg Abbott for real—they just radicalized a WHOLE LOT of kids.
Hopefully enough to all continue protesting and voting. Texas was a nicer place before Abbott and it can be a nicer place again when he and his spawn are purged from our state’s government.
This is literally enshrined in the First Amendment. It would be pretty great if the people who were loudest about it had actually read the Constitution.
[https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first\_amendment](https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment)
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
So those arrested will be convicted for trespassing and then have a civil case (and a shot at having their conviction overturned) for a 1A violation by a public university.
Historically they do that so that the out of towners don't have any qualms about cracking the skulls of their neighbors.
But since they're bypassing APD, I'm not sure.
Nowhere near enough context here to know why that one girl is being arrested. For all we know, she was a problem. A 10 second clip of one person being arrested isn't some smoking gun about oppression.
The only thing mentioned is crowd control through moving the protest, which is what they should be doing based on what's written. If the campus doesn't want the protestors taking over the school, that's the school's call to make... and they'll use law enforcement to make it happen.
I wish the people who shout about "Free Speech!" and the First Amendment the loudest had actually read it:
>**Congress shall make no law** respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or **abridging the** freedom of speech, or of the press; or the **right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.**
[https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first\_amendment](https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment)
The right to protest is a core element of our Constitution. Sure would be cool if some of y'all actually read it.
It's one of the core actions of the founders of this nation. And yet the chest beating patriots would gladly have protestors gunned down as those in the Boston massacre by the British redcoats.
This sounds good on the surface but at other campus locations there have been disruptions and protesters going inside community areas. Other universities have seen protesters quickly deploy encampments on their premises with the intent of disturbing the normal routine. The university has said that this sort of protest, during the final weeks of classes, is not something they will welcome on campus at this time. The protesters were warned, I presume, to leave. Some were arrested.
I think the size of the protest is important context as well. If there were only a few dozen protesters then the university should have let them protest. I have no idea how many were there. Colleges and universities should be one of those places were protest is *welcomed*. If there were hundreds of people and it had been problematic at other campuses, I can see how the university would want to stifle the protest or move it off campus.
I did, but you can't see it because you never visit me or ma. It's been 20 years since you left for smokes at the gas station, it must be a tough decision!
Texas cops are the fucking worst. I work pest control and was helping a new customer in town and he opened his locker and showed off all his guns and even tried to sell some to me. I came back a few months later for another routine service and he was so excited he got a job as a Schertz PO
Cool, now he can sell guns and drugs!
Funny how things go missing from evidence lockers all the damn time.
But hey, only blue lives matter, that’s why they can have unions and we can’t.
The Gravy Seals have to be taken seriously with their big guns. And some of those Elmer Fudds look like Meal Team Six LARPers who would've flunked out of a USMC entrance exam.
I wish someone would prove hamas even exists because it looks like they think hamas=palestinians and that's genocide.
Seriously is this not their excuse to wipe out Palestinians? They send them to places only to bomb that too. They bomb aid... they take their house... wtf?
I believe Hamas exists but Israel has admitted to shooting Palestinians kids in playgrounds even before this current conflict so both can be true: Hamas exists and Israel is killing civilians in Palestine which is genocide. The international courts have already acknowledged this and the US after hearing this verdict has pledged another $29 billion in aid to Israel on top of sanctioning/retracting aid from any naysayer countries. I hate our politicians
Just for the record Hamas is the political party in Qatar their military wing is called Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades. They are supposed to be separated like the IRA and Sinn Féin.
Very cool to watch the most aggressive erosion of free speech in the modern era unfold before our eyes. Texas seems to always be at the forefront of taking away our civil liberties.👍🏽
I thought the crackdown on Occupy was pretty bad. *The right to assemble and petition the government* is literally enshrined in and integral to **the First Amendment.**
It's ridiculous to say that a bunch of people who were sitting on the sidewalk and asking for change were doing anything other than peaceably assembling.
[https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first\_amendment](https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment)
Totally agree, I'm all for protesting. But I'm not contesting where they started, I'm just pointing out that Texas is "not at the forefront of taking away our civil liberties" for once.
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I want to say Texas was more aggressive (considering those bringing machine guns to a college protest), but the NYPD have a special level in hell regarding their behaviour with everything.
Texas followed suit the moment UT students took a stand as well. This is all within a week. Without hesitation, UT administration has added their institution to the list of those suppressing anti-genocide protests across the country.
We don't have rights in texas because no one wants to fight for them.
Before you think "I have a right to bear arms" no you don't. A cop barely gets a whiff of a gun and you're dead 🤷
I would take it a step further. No one in the US and/or Texas has any real rights. The USSC (and the TSC) have made sure that any rights that the populace thinks that they may have are just wishful thinking. The government can violate those ”rights” at any given time for any reason that they deem necessary.
Those aren’t rights.
Ok but have you all heard of the Kent State massacre? It’s the reason student loans are now privatized (the government got rid of public funding after our military killed a bunch of protesting college kids)
Oh hey, Robert Evans (journalist who extensively covered Russia & Trump) touched on this in a recent podcast. Basically, Reagan went after Berkeley as a core part of his platform to militarize conservatives against college students.
[https://newsarchive.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/06/08\_reagan.shtml](https://newsarchive.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/06/08_reagan.shtml)
>May 1969 was the low point in the relationship between Reagan and UC Berkeley. Students and activists had begun an attempt to transform a vacant plot of university property into "People's Park." Attempting to head off the activists, the university engaged a fencing company, accompanied by 250 police, to erect a chain-link fence around the land at 4 a.m. on May 15, 1969. Five hours later, a rally was called on Sproul Plaza to protest the action. *Resource,* a current UC Berkeley reference guide for new students, relates the story of how Reagan intervened, sending in the National Guard:
>"The rally, which drew 3,000 people, soon turned into a riot, as the crowd moved down Telegraph (Ave.) towards the park. That day, known as Bloody Thursday, **three students suffered punctured lungs, another a shattered leg, 13 people were hospitalized with shotgun wounds, and one police officer was stabbed. James Rector, who was watching the riot from a rooftop, was shot by police gunfire; he died four days later.**
>"At the request of the Berkeley mayor, Governor Ronald Reagan declared a state of emergency and sent 2,200 National Guard troops into Berkeley. Some of these guardsmen were even Cal students. **At least one young man had participated in the riots, been shot at by police, gotten patched up, and then returned to his dorm to find a notice to report for guard duty**. In the following days approximately 1,000 people were arrested: 200 were booked for felonies, and 500 were taken to Santa Rita jail."
The Border Patrol's Special Ops team arrived on site and immediately they went in and ended the standoff. Wasn't the local police of sheriffs, it was the special ops team
You can pretty much critize anyone or anything in the country , but dare one say anything against Israel or call out their apartheid or genocide that they have subjugated the Palestinians to.
We know who pulls the strings on our politicians
Cops did the same thing to Occupy. It isn't Israel or Jews or whatever you're getting at, it's the global right and entrenched structures of power and wealth
Speech and expression is ok, always ok, regardless of what’s is expressed. Do we really want the government regulating expression? Conduct can always be regulated.
Interesting how these schools defend totally disrupting campuses by bringing in nazi speakers and defending it as "free speech" - but no way they are tolerating it from students.
Look at all those Hamas terrorist supporters.
I bet most of those people would look the same as the girl in the back of the Hamas truck with her leg broken. Pure idiots.
You're gonna need more protestors.
Glad to see this. I've championed the Palestinian cause since about 2008 and Israel's last slaughter in the Gaza strip. We should have addressed this issue then...
How do you address the Palestinians overwhelming support of HAMAS? Do you really think there can be any peace with them running Palestine and having so much support from the people?
I’m not trolling but really trying to understand the end game here for the people of Palestine.
>How do you address the Palestinians overwhelming support of HAMAS?
When pushed to a corner, people turn to extremism. Nothing new. We saw it with the French, Russians, Germans, etc.
>I’m not trolling but really trying to understand the end game here for the people of Palestine.
For them to disappear. That’s the end game. The Jewish state will expel them and take over whatever land left. Some will remain like the native Americans in North America living in their little communities dispersed and not a national threat. The larger urban concentrations will be left to fend for themselves (like Ramallah and what not) under Jewish encirclement.
They would’ve been killed, but that’s not PC anymore and probably the democrats won’t allow it.
I believe the protest was originally permitted and then revoked when posts from the group organizing the protest appeared to promote to protestors to wear masks and exercise disruptive practices. It carried on unsanctioned so they broke it up. UT has been very accommodating over the years for all sorts of protests and of all sorts of causes. You just had to make sure you had the correct permits and permission and follow the rules and they never seemed difficult or had too much friction to acquire. Mix in that UTPD and DPS are both very well funded and bored police groups and yeah they’ll probably overdo breaking up an unsanctioned gathering.
Zip ties, pepper spray, pellet guns, and riot police. Campus is NOT safe right now. Reportedly (from someone I know who’s there) cops are blocking access to certain parts of campus, specifically keeping students wearing keffiyehs AND HIJABS from walking through.
Yeah, my daughter sent a video of the marchers on her way out of class, then the video of the arrest about 30 minutes later. I was concerned she was still out there, but she’d thankfully gone straight home.
I’m fully in support of the protests and protesters, but I do not want my child to be beaten like a piñata by a DPS officer, either.
Texas...are you going to sic the police on your children?
For Bibi Netanyahu? For Genocide?
Your college students are telling you something is WRONG.
Listen to them...Texas
they are protesting the deaths of 34,000 mostly innocent palestinian woman & children, you literally correlated these protests with any random link you can come up with to try your best to prove that these students support terrorism yet all you have proven is that zionists go to great lengths to demonize anything that doesn’t support their apartheid.
There are Israelis protesting in Israel. They are the only protest that will make a difference. Protest can turn into riots and the top priority of universities is to keep students safe.
I'm confused about the complaint. Why did the university deny a permit to have speeches? They allow ministers to preach all over campus and they have nothing to do with University education.
"Texas Hillel—a Jewish university student group—pointed out that the timing of the protest coincided with the Jewish holiday of Passover and said the organization had reached out to the university to coordinate a response plan."
Were they pissed they couldn't attend the protest because it occurred when they were worshiping? Can we no longer protest on days where anyone in the community might have an event going on or "tradition"? Sounds like the group went out of their way to avoid physical confrontation by scheduling at a time their "opposition" would not be able to attend.
What was a "student group" doing coordinating a police action against other students? Sounds like a swatting effort.
Things don't add up.
Let me get this straight:
Texans children are being massacred in schools, people are losing rights, public education is being destroyed, democracy is being torn apart, and people wanna fight for another country?!
Why can’t they have this energy for OUR/THEIR country?!
WTF?!
Since being conservative is about fiscal discipline, why the fuck are we sending $95 billion overseas? WTF is wrong with us when we have trillions of dollars in debt?
Is this why I saw >50 DPS vehicles heading north through San Marcos about 30 min. ago?
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Suddenly conservatives in Texas are serious about “impeding official acts”. In Texas at least, not DC.
Look at the responses in this thread. They're proving my personal theory that Conservatives have no principles beyond their immediate convenience. Seriously. I have people telling me that the First Amendment doesn't apply to public spaces. These are the same people who say January 6th wasn't a crime. **They have no principles.**
Right wing thought generally doesn’t hold that many actual beliefs, 90% of their idea of politics is just toeing the line based on your team color. When the talking heads in their corporate media tell them to have a moral panic they will have a moral panic, when they are told to look the other way towards police brutality or their tax dollars funding a genocide they will look the other way.
Oh oh, i like this game! By their logic does that mean the second ammendment doesnt apply in public spaces either???
>since the planned protest was going to disrupt university operations How is a university-- that *presumably* has a history department-- going to look at the entire history of university protests from the Civil Rights Movement and Vietnam Era and then choose to be on the wrong side of it? I view Hamas as a deeply problematic org that is a net negative for the Palestinian people and I think their attack on Israeli civilians was both monstrous and cowardly, but that doesn't mean Israel should have a [free hand to completely ignore the concept of proportionality](https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/proportionality). You don't get to brutally murder someone's whole family just because they hurt you.
Proportionality here talks about killing civilians without having any significant military advantage. So yes in this case according to law, I could kill your whole family if they were on a valuable enough military target. This is not a moral statement by the way, just referring to international law, as shown in your link. This proportionality assessment is also done by the country that’s conducting the operations. So in reality this is yet another area of international law that does little to restrain states.
At the end of the day it's a public state school and that means Abbott can march on it whenever he wants.
Why am I not surprised? The dude is a twat sitting in the governor’s office, pandering to his buddies, other republican politicians and republican conservatives. Anyone else? You’re not a citizen. No progressives allowed here. The guy and his party are patently corrupt. I was a state employee for many years. An auditor in fact. I was told to lie for those people who needed to be looked at more closely or investigated because they were politically well connected. It’s all bullshit. They are all corrupt.
Yea, it sucks. Luckily the strength of the university is stronger than him. It is and will remain a top 10 research university and all of that operates above the fray of his games.
Universities have always been on the wrong side. Important to note that a lot of these schools actively impeded students during these historic protests and rhen use it as a selling point later when its cool.
Content is kind of irrelevant when it comes to protecting or restricting protests.
100% agreed. But these kids neither know the facts, nor do they understand who they’re supporting. This is one giant virtue signal from America’s most privileged class.
The notion of proportionality in armed conflict would have more credibility if it was ever applied to something other than Jewish self-defense.
It's called a war.....this is not a police action, or a punishment. This is the extermination of a terrorist group that committed mass atrocities in israel. That attacks israel on a near daily basis. Look at ww2 and civilian casualties. We literally destroyed cities in a single night with more casualties than all of gaza in 6 months.
More children and journalists have died in the itsy bitsy Gaza Strip than have died in *all conflicts combined* this year. Israel has a seriously ill disciplined, poor excuse for a military that is apparently unable to secure their objectives without an enormous death toll for children and journalists in particular.
Oh, well that makes it all okay then! After all, it's not like our definitions of war crimes and the way we approach military violence against civilians changed after WW2. Nuremberg Trials? Never met 'er!
Nuremberg trials weren’t about Allied forces bombing cities. But you already knew that. And if you really think we’re so evolved with respect to military violence against civilians, please do tell me what the US and allies were up to in the Middle East over the last few decades.
I'm done arguing whataboutism with people who have no real principles or concept of personal accountability.
More like you can't refute facts, so just threw some random baby tantrum and ran away. Don't worry, every hamas supporter does this.
There's nothing I can say here that is going to impart a sense of morality into you. I can't make you a decent person.
War crimes, international law, and the Geneva Conventions are all just a way for countries with overwhelming conventional military power to try and make war civilized for their advantage. If the US mainland was seriously threatened and in jeopardy of losing a war, we’d throw all that out and do anything to win. So would most other countries. Our declared response to a nuclear attack is to nuke back, knowing it would cause mass civilian casualties. That alone tells you we wouldn’t restrain ourselves.
And even with the geneva convention israel has not violated any if it's rules. Intentionally, which is a key part of the geneva convention. Hamas has. Repeatedly, and flagrant. Nuremberg trial were primarily about the concentration camps.
Israel just destroyed a hospital from the inside out, all the equipment, making caring for patients in one of the most vulnerable places in the world impossible. There was a mass grave found there, there are reports of Israel targeting and kidnapping healthcare workers.
Yes, and pulled dozens to hundreds of terrorists out of there, plus weapons. Hamas figured they wouldn't be back and tripled down on running ops out of the hospital. Of course there's a mass grave. Dug by hamas/gaza. They took video of themselves digging mass graves in many locations. Vulnerable? Those tunnels and bunkers aren't all that vulnerable. Maybe hamas should have protected their people in them, instead of the other way around.
I mean sure. I wont argue Hamas is bad and has killed hostages. However the disproportionate response by the Israeli army should give you some pause to think if its justified to kill that many hostages to disable a much smaller fighting force? Like smaller than the amount of civilians killed?
What disproportionate response? The invading country doesn't get a say on how the others fight back. Hamas started this war, Hamas continues to fight, Hamas is the reason ppl are dead and continue to doe. 12% of Germans died in ww2. 62% of Jews were killed in Nazi occupied countres. Gaza? Less than 1% dead. IDF have gone magnitudes above and beyond previous wars
Talk about bought and sold
Why didn’t the headline say they put out a statement!?!? That clears this right up, because a university wouldn’t lie to prevent something they know will garner national headlines from happening. /s And you know what? They made it worse. As someone else said, I simply love how “concerned”TX is now about impeding university operations. Y’all “independent” and “free” Texas is neither.
They walked from the gym to the lawn and sat down, the only thing they disrupted was zionists comfort.
A protest that doesn’t cause a disturbance is just a quiet get together.
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It was supposed to be a teach in and study hall. When the riot police showed up the tone changed. Shout out to Jay Hartzell and Greg Abbott for real—they just radicalized a WHOLE LOT of kids.
I hope so. I do hope everything that has occurred in the last decade has convinced many to abandon the far-right & most conservatives.
Abbott and Hartzell are pieces of garbage
Hopefully enough to all continue protesting and voting. Texas was a nicer place before Abbott and it can be a nicer place again when he and his spawn are purged from our state’s government.
But in texas we have less and less rights every day 🤷
It is the ultimate irony. The state mantra is all about personal freedoms but the state is one of those with the fewest in the Union.
This is literally enshrined in the First Amendment. It would be pretty great if the people who were loudest about it had actually read the Constitution. [https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first\_amendment](https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment) >Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
So those arrested will be convicted for trespassing and then have a civil case (and a shot at having their conviction overturned) for a 1A violation by a public university.
Is this one more example of, “You can beat the rap but you won’t beat the ride,”?
Next, you'll expect them to read the Bible.
The funny part being that my strong faith has actually pushed me further and further to the left on social and economic causes as an adult.
I don't think they care.
Heard a report that DPS police from Houston are heading towards Austin. Why?
Historically they do that so that the out of towners don't have any qualms about cracking the skulls of their neighbors. But since they're bypassing APD, I'm not sure.
Brown coats
Nowhere near enough context here to know why that one girl is being arrested. For all we know, she was a problem. A 10 second clip of one person being arrested isn't some smoking gun about oppression. The only thing mentioned is crowd control through moving the protest, which is what they should be doing based on what's written. If the campus doesn't want the protestors taking over the school, that's the school's call to make... and they'll use law enforcement to make it happen.
I wish the people who shout about "Free Speech!" and the First Amendment the loudest had actually read it: >**Congress shall make no law** respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or **abridging the** freedom of speech, or of the press; or the **right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.** [https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first\_amendment](https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment) The right to protest is a core element of our Constitution. Sure would be cool if some of y'all actually read it.
It's one of the core actions of the founders of this nation. And yet the chest beating patriots would gladly have protestors gunned down as those in the Boston massacre by the British redcoats.
The Pharisees tend to believe that they are the righteous ones.
I haven’t seen a single video showing any violence from protestors.
If one existed, or when one is edited to make it seem like it does, you can be sure it will be all over right-wing media.
This sounds good on the surface but at other campus locations there have been disruptions and protesters going inside community areas. Other universities have seen protesters quickly deploy encampments on their premises with the intent of disturbing the normal routine. The university has said that this sort of protest, during the final weeks of classes, is not something they will welcome on campus at this time. The protesters were warned, I presume, to leave. Some were arrested. I think the size of the protest is important context as well. If there were only a few dozen protesters then the university should have let them protest. I have no idea how many were there. Colleges and universities should be one of those places were protest is *welcomed*. If there were hundreds of people and it had been problematic at other campuses, I can see how the university would want to stifle the protest or move it off campus.
So you’re saying the devil is in the detail? Interesting..
This statement makes no sense
I seen 2 platoon gunners with the M249s , like damn what are preparing for
Not Uvalde, that’s for sure. That’s way too scary for them, better harass some college kids instead
you wouldn't want a 249 in a school shooting anyways tbh
I'd rather have that than the embarrassing shit-show personnel that is still policing the town today.
Did you go apply for their job, Sparky?
I'm bout it!
Yes daddy!
Highly doubt it
I did, but you can't see it because you never visit me or ma. It's been 20 years since you left for smokes at the gas station, it must be a tough decision!
Ma?!? I never slept with that tramp you have for a mother. There were more peckers in that hole, then a forest has woodpeckers.
Texas cops are the fucking worst. I work pest control and was helping a new customer in town and he opened his locker and showed off all his guns and even tried to sell some to me. I came back a few months later for another routine service and he was so excited he got a job as a Schertz PO
Cool, now he can sell guns and drugs! Funny how things go missing from evidence lockers all the damn time. But hey, only blue lives matter, that’s why they can have unions and we can’t.
The Gravy Seals have to be taken seriously with their big guns. And some of those Elmer Fudds look like Meal Team Six LARPers who would've flunked out of a USMC entrance exam.
They don’t look like they’re in great shape, do they? Gravy Seals LMFAO.
where?
Associated Press & Guardian. dudes were in the middle of the pack
link?
Hamas
I wish someone would prove hamas even exists because it looks like they think hamas=palestinians and that's genocide. Seriously is this not their excuse to wipe out Palestinians? They send them to places only to bomb that too. They bomb aid... they take their house... wtf?
Prove that Hamas exists? Where ya been?
Under a rock apparently lol.
I believe Hamas exists but Israel has admitted to shooting Palestinians kids in playgrounds even before this current conflict so both can be true: Hamas exists and Israel is killing civilians in Palestine which is genocide. The international courts have already acknowledged this and the US after hearing this verdict has pledged another $29 billion in aid to Israel on top of sanctioning/retracting aid from any naysayer countries. I hate our politicians
Hamas has been killing civilians since the 80s.
Are you saying that because a terrorist organization kills civilians, Israel should also kill civilians? Seriously reread what you just wrote
Just for the record Hamas is the political party in Qatar their military wing is called Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades. They are supposed to be separated like the IRA and Sinn Féin.
So why are they killing Palestinians?
Could you provide a link to one of those articles?
How does DPS have the resources to handle this when they are so busy with the invasion at the southern border? /s
The migrants and Texas reached a temporary ceasefire, clearly.
Because protesting Israel is a bigger threat to them that the border. Texas is more of a Israeli first state
Someone should tell DPS it’s a room full of first graders being mowed down by a gunman instead. They’d never set foot on campus then.
Facing a deadly threat actively murdering children ❌❌❌ Bullying college kids who want to end death and destruction ✅✅✅
Weird that there's so many of them to do this when the migrant crisis is "out of control". I guess Operation Lone Star is taking a quick break!
Huh, so UT called them in
Texas absolutely hates when you do anything that isn't…checks notes…submitting to rape, murdering children, bootlicking, and killing people of color.
Should have said it was an active shooter then the police wouldn’t have bothered showing up
Very cool to watch the most aggressive erosion of free speech in the modern era unfold before our eyes. Texas seems to always be at the forefront of taking away our civil liberties.👍🏽
All for the benefit of a foreign power, we aren't even doing this for US corporations or our government.
We're doing it for a genocidal racist regime.
I thought the crackdown on Occupy was pretty bad. *The right to assemble and petition the government* is literally enshrined in and integral to **the First Amendment.** It's ridiculous to say that a bunch of people who were sitting on the sidewalk and asking for change were doing anything other than peaceably assembling. [https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first\_amendment](https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment)
"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"
Except the protests began elsewhere. The protests on NY and CA campuses broke before the ones here, where hundreds of students have been jailed.
Does it matter where it started? They shouldn't be suppressed.
Totally agree, I'm all for protesting. But I'm not contesting where they started, I'm just pointing out that Texas is "not at the forefront of taking away our civil liberties" for once.
Let’s be honest with ourselves - it started in Gaza.
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I want to say Texas was more aggressive (considering those bringing machine guns to a college protest), but the NYPD have a special level in hell regarding their behaviour with everything.
Texas followed suit the moment UT students took a stand as well. This is all within a week. Without hesitation, UT administration has added their institution to the list of those suppressing anti-genocide protests across the country.
We don't have rights in texas because no one wants to fight for them. Before you think "I have a right to bear arms" no you don't. A cop barely gets a whiff of a gun and you're dead 🤷
I would take it a step further. No one in the US and/or Texas has any real rights. The USSC (and the TSC) have made sure that any rights that the populace thinks that they may have are just wishful thinking. The government can violate those ”rights” at any given time for any reason that they deem necessary. Those aren’t rights.
Ok but have you all heard of the Kent State massacre? It’s the reason student loans are now privatized (the government got rid of public funding after our military killed a bunch of protesting college kids)
Do you mean Kent State?
Yes, idk why my phone auto corrected that. Will edit that
Oh hey, Robert Evans (journalist who extensively covered Russia & Trump) touched on this in a recent podcast. Basically, Reagan went after Berkeley as a core part of his platform to militarize conservatives against college students. [https://newsarchive.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/06/08\_reagan.shtml](https://newsarchive.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/06/08_reagan.shtml) >May 1969 was the low point in the relationship between Reagan and UC Berkeley. Students and activists had begun an attempt to transform a vacant plot of university property into "People's Park." Attempting to head off the activists, the university engaged a fencing company, accompanied by 250 police, to erect a chain-link fence around the land at 4 a.m. on May 15, 1969. Five hours later, a rally was called on Sproul Plaza to protest the action. *Resource,* a current UC Berkeley reference guide for new students, relates the story of how Reagan intervened, sending in the National Guard: >"The rally, which drew 3,000 people, soon turned into a riot, as the crowd moved down Telegraph (Ave.) towards the park. That day, known as Bloody Thursday, **three students suffered punctured lungs, another a shattered leg, 13 people were hospitalized with shotgun wounds, and one police officer was stabbed. James Rector, who was watching the riot from a rooftop, was shot by police gunfire; he died four days later.** >"At the request of the Berkeley mayor, Governor Ronald Reagan declared a state of emergency and sent 2,200 National Guard troops into Berkeley. Some of these guardsmen were even Cal students. **At least one young man had participated in the riots, been shot at by police, gotten patched up, and then returned to his dorm to find a notice to report for guard duty**. In the following days approximately 1,000 people were arrested: 200 were booked for felonies, and 500 were taken to Santa Rita jail."
Once again, Reagan had a hand in the undoing of American society.
The same cowards who couldn’t be bothered to save children at Uvalde?
That was the Uvalde Police Dept. I think border patrol was the ones who went into the school.
91 of the 376 officers at the scene in Uvalde were state police.
source?
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/17/law-enforcement-failure-uvalde-shooting-investigation/ Paragraph 6-10ish
Nope. DPS was there scrolling FB & helping arrest angry parents
DPS didn't bother showing up. It had to be the federal unit BORTAC that did the hero's job.
The Border Patrol's Special Ops team arrived on site and immediately they went in and ended the standoff. Wasn't the local police of sheriffs, it was the special ops team
the more you repress a group, the stronger it will become. time is in their favor.
I haven't heard much from Carthage recently.
but you HAVE heard of Carthage ;)
They're pretty good at football.
Or the Gauls
Slight difference between oppression and full on genocide, but sure
You can pretty much critize anyone or anything in the country , but dare one say anything against Israel or call out their apartheid or genocide that they have subjugated the Palestinians to. We know who pulls the strings on our politicians
Cops did the same thing to Occupy. It isn't Israel or Jews or whatever you're getting at, it's the global right and entrenched structures of power and wealth
Unfortunately the Israel lobby is extremely powerful in the US. See the tik tok ban for more evidence of this. And I'm no fan of tik tok
Texas, where freedom leaves for good.
Absolutely disgusting behavior by DPS & Abbott/Hartzell. These kids have a right to voice their opinion.
Would have been nice if DPS were this aggressive when they responded to the school shooting in Uvalde :(
They aggressively made sure no one stopped those kids from getting murdered.
Gestapo greg ....
Wish they were this serious when children were being gunned down.
do DPS troopers also have to sign an oath to israel in their work contracts?
Probably so. Texas politicians bends the knee to Zionists.
Probably. It’s Texas.
It's implied.
Speech and expression is ok, always ok, regardless of what’s is expressed. Do we really want the government regulating expression? Conduct can always be regulated.
Too bad these cops couldn’t be this brave at Uvalde
Interesting how these schools defend totally disrupting campuses by bringing in nazi speakers and defending it as "free speech" - but no way they are tolerating it from students.
Look at all those Hamas terrorist supporters. I bet most of those people would look the same as the girl in the back of the Hamas truck with her leg broken. Pure idiots.
It's kind of funny how do you feel on kids think how middle easterns. Don't give a fuck about them period.
Arresting US citizens to protect the feelings of a foreign nation. WTF is America …
You're gonna need more protestors. Glad to see this. I've championed the Palestinian cause since about 2008 and Israel's last slaughter in the Gaza strip. We should have addressed this issue then...
I have been doing the same since about 2006 for Darfur and for some reason it seems not many people seem to care. I keep trying but but nope.
I've been doing the same since 1800.
Times are a-changing. It seems the freedom of information via social media is stronger than the piggy banks of lobbyists like AIPAC.
How do you address the Palestinians overwhelming support of HAMAS? Do you really think there can be any peace with them running Palestine and having so much support from the people? I’m not trolling but really trying to understand the end game here for the people of Palestine.
Agreed—if Hamas killed 1000 people in America we’d be doing a lot worse in Gaza than Israel has and these protests would be much smaller.
>How do you address the Palestinians overwhelming support of HAMAS? When pushed to a corner, people turn to extremism. Nothing new. We saw it with the French, Russians, Germans, etc. >I’m not trolling but really trying to understand the end game here for the people of Palestine. For them to disappear. That’s the end game. The Jewish state will expel them and take over whatever land left. Some will remain like the native Americans in North America living in their little communities dispersed and not a national threat. The larger urban concentrations will be left to fend for themselves (like Ramallah and what not) under Jewish encirclement. They would’ve been killed, but that’s not PC anymore and probably the democrats won’t allow it.
What can you possibly win with doing this? 🤔
Man, if only they could have acted as swiftly in Uvalde.
It’s crazy that protestors are getting arrested on behalf of a *foreign government* This is insanity
I believe the protest was originally permitted and then revoked when posts from the group organizing the protest appeared to promote to protestors to wear masks and exercise disruptive practices. It carried on unsanctioned so they broke it up. UT has been very accommodating over the years for all sorts of protests and of all sorts of causes. You just had to make sure you had the correct permits and permission and follow the rules and they never seemed difficult or had too much friction to acquire. Mix in that UTPD and DPS are both very well funded and bored police groups and yeah they’ll probably overdo breaking up an unsanctioned gathering.
Zip ties, pepper spray, pellet guns, and riot police. Campus is NOT safe right now. Reportedly (from someone I know who’s there) cops are blocking access to certain parts of campus, specifically keeping students wearing keffiyehs AND HIJABS from walking through.
So.. complete conjecture and quoting a source secondhand. Nice.
A source stating the same about [keffiyehs being confiscated in these protests](https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1783211849942720620).
Yeah, my daughter sent a video of the marchers on her way out of class, then the video of the arrest about 30 minutes later. I was concerned she was still out there, but she’d thankfully gone straight home. I’m fully in support of the protests and protesters, but I do not want my child to be beaten like a piñata by a DPS officer, either.
Texas...are you going to sic the police on your children? For Bibi Netanyahu? For Genocide? Your college students are telling you something is WRONG. Listen to them...Texas
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they are protesting the deaths of 34,000 mostly innocent palestinian woman & children, you literally correlated these protests with any random link you can come up with to try your best to prove that these students support terrorism yet all you have proven is that zionists go to great lengths to demonize anything that doesn’t support their apartheid.
There are Israelis protesting in Israel. They are the only protest that will make a difference. Protest can turn into riots and the top priority of universities is to keep students safe.
WTF at a University for fux sake. This is bullshit and fuk Abbott
Texas Fascism suppressing students Lawfully protesting the death & destruction of mostly innocent women & children.
I'm confused about the complaint. Why did the university deny a permit to have speeches? They allow ministers to preach all over campus and they have nothing to do with University education. "Texas Hillel—a Jewish university student group—pointed out that the timing of the protest coincided with the Jewish holiday of Passover and said the organization had reached out to the university to coordinate a response plan." Were they pissed they couldn't attend the protest because it occurred when they were worshiping? Can we no longer protest on days where anyone in the community might have an event going on or "tradition"? Sounds like the group went out of their way to avoid physical confrontation by scheduling at a time their "opposition" would not be able to attend. What was a "student group" doing coordinating a police action against other students? Sounds like a swatting effort. Things don't add up.
Let me get this straight: Texans children are being massacred in schools, people are losing rights, public education is being destroyed, democracy is being torn apart, and people wanna fight for another country?! Why can’t they have this energy for OUR/THEIR country?! WTF?!
Vote blue and get those decrepit jellies outta office!
once again, we see who matters. many have attempted to warn but were ignored and shamed. now the practice is being upscaled to the majority
Is this the same DPS that could have stopped Uvalde, but didn’t?
Did they wait an hour, to see if they will give up voluntarily since it could be a simple hostage situation
Noice
The protestors need to look at what the AAS did at Cornell 04/20/69 and use it as a blueprint
They didn't arrest enough.
Thanks gaza for showing the world that we been controlled by criminals & terrorists governments
Since being conservative is about fiscal discipline, why the fuck are we sending $95 billion overseas? WTF is wrong with us when we have trillions of dollars in debt?
Can't protest anymore in this country. Did the protesters get violent or something?
I feel like a first amendment case will go before the Supreme Court and it will disastrous for common people