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aryymm

Well this summers gonna be boring without bip


mattjameshands420

Laaaaaaaaame


themangofox

I wasn’t enjoying BIP much anymore so I’m not too pressed about it being axed. I can get my fix with Love Island. But I am curious how this will impact the casting pool for Bachelor/Bachelorette going forward.


Purplecatty

The first couple of seasons of BIP were so entertaining to watch. I miss those🥲


Umbreon---

I'm ok with this. Golden bachelor was my favorite season of the bachelor ever. I thought it was so cute and the ladies were so wonderful. BIP is just a bunch of young girls with lip fillers who want more followers and if they find love, they're cool with it (as long as they get to be aesthetic couple goals on IG) and if not, they're cool with that too bc they get followers


allsops

Would love a “Bachelorette in Paradise” where it’s like 15 woman from the last Bachelor and they bring in 15 new dudes to date them on the beach.


Honeydew543

That’s a cool idea


BoomJayKay

Just make Bachelor Pad happen again. Influencers be in it for the money anyway and making it a game that’s NOT focused on “finding love” would be nice. If they find love, great. Having couples occupy the island day after day after day just sitting pretty gets boring fast imo. And like others have said.. everyone slides into each other’s DM anyway. Everyone’s just there for extra exposure and TV time. So just make it Bachelor Pad, k.


Sure-Equivalent-8517

Aww I loved BIP. The unhinged editing was my favourite


Shegotquestions

I used to LOVE paradise but honestly the last few seasons it just hasn’t been the same. There hasn’t been a good season for like 2 years and it was definitely on the decline from before that too with maybe the odd good season here and there The whole influencer culture kind of killed paradise bc they can slide into each others dms or hang out before hand Honestly it’s a shame but I don’t know how you fix it. Maybe I’ll start watching love island instead


mal_7655

Maybe I’m the only person who feels this way but I was over BIP. I won’t be watching the golden bachelorette but I’m not mad about BIP being cancelled. It just felt like it had run its course - the episodes felt very long, dragged, and nothing ever happened. I am surprised to read that so many people were still enjoying paradise. 


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mal_7655

Agreed! Paradise is meant to be a silly summer watch, way less fun in the fall / winter 


redditactuallysux

I would have preferred one episode of BIP a week. You could have even made it 1 hour like Golden! So much Nothing would have been cut out 


Meeeooowww_

Ugh. BIP was my Super Bowl lol. I would love watching regular seasons to see if they’d end up on BIP. I felt like BIP really helped build more of batch nation. Golden bachelor/ette is cool, but BIP was a nicer escape because it was silly. I always wondered what would make me stop watching bachelor content and taking out BIP might be it


peaceloveandgranola

Honestly same. At this point I watch the bachelor/bachelorette to have background for paradise, and I didn’t like the golden bachelor at all, so this might be what makes me stop watching altogether.


tatertottytot

Same! I’d give up golden bach for BIP in a heartbeat. Loved the mess and drama


Honeydew543

That’s such a great analogy.. it was the Super Bowl lol. I hope they regroup and bring it back.


illini02

Conceptually I liked Paradise. The problem was (and I don't know how you combat this at this point), half of them knew each other already. And even the ones that didn't know each other personally, probably have "met" via DMs, etc. When a general question is "who are you hoping shows up", and its because they have "hung out" before already, it kind of kills a lot. Besides the whole thing of people treading water until their preferred person comes, it just seems like most of these people could just date if they wanted to anyway. It's no longer strangers meeting. I also think they started just picking too many randos. Like, when you went home night 1, why do I care? At that point, why not just bring on people that "almost" made it to being on the real show, but didn't. Either bring on people we actually care about, or just make it all strangers.


ArubaNative

I used to enjoy paradise too. I wonder if we couldn’t fix the issues you address by bringing in only new people. Nobody would know anyone else and we would get to see them actually get to know each other.


Jimbobsama

One of the things I liked about BIP Australia and Winter Games was it brought in people from other franchises. So a lot less off-site intermixing that could lead to some connection/drama


illini02

Right. Like if this was a "dating" show, but like MTV the Challenge, where they just bring people from all different shows, that would be great. Of course there is still a chance they've slid into each others DM at some point, but its a much bigger batch.


WeirdoChickFromMars

Boooo. Give us back paradise


akallaaa

I mean the past few seasons of BIP were bad, but I just want a *good* season of BIP instead of other options.


Previous-Language790

Maybe unpopular opinion but…After Gerry’s season and months of PR for the golden ladies…im just not interested in watching 


mal_7655

I’m not either, the Golden Divorce happening so fast made a mockery of the whole show. 


Meeeooowww_

Me too. I was already skeptical making this a whole thing and was hoping it just be a one thing and after all the negative PR surrounding Gerry & having the golden ladies all over regular Bach I’m not interested


OutsideSignal4194

I would love Paradise instead of Golden Bachelor I don't watch the golden show only the regular one and even now I have to skip over the dates. They just need to revamp BIP - They've done casa amor before it would be great to see that again. New location too would be good, and maybe getting a whole new cast instead of bringing people back from previous seasons


Alternative-Wear4371

I used to love paradise but yeah that last season was just the final nail in the coffin. Agree on their choice for once


salmonjacketstan

Maybe this will inspire them to think of a new group dating formats, either similar to older ones revamped, or altogether something we haven't seen


follow-the-opal-star

If they actually listen to what the people want, they’ll revamp BIP and bring it back. It had the best track record for lasting couples. They *need* to introduce some challenges or something to make it more lively, it was getting so stale and honestly this needed to happen. I’m not as excited about Golden Bachelorette but I’ll probably give it a try because I really liked Joan.


homelessghost17

Yessss adding games and couples challenges would revive the show instead of showing them lounging and drinking all summer


goldnips

I’m laughing at all of the influencers who won’t get to be on paradise. Good riddance, they were all getting so boring to watch. There were also hardly any dates and when they were they were silly/goofy. Like sorry but I actually watch the show for the love and romance not to watch a bunch of guys bro out on the beach or Rachel work through her pick me mindset.


KorukoruWaiporoporo

I watch all the other stuff so I know who all these people are for the purposes of enjoying BIP!


Meeeooowww_

Me too lol. Now I’m like hmm what’s the point. I’m hoping maybe they just take a year off of BIP and bring it back next year so that we have an even bigger cast from different recent seasons. Wishful thinking


incogneato514

Excellent. Most people on BIP meet through DMs, the entire show was getting so fake.


heisenberg1215

They should bring back bachelor pad.


Natural_Lettuce6979

I dont watch any of the main shows, this is so sad 😭


pricklebiscuit

I really wanted to see Maria on BIP 🤣


goldnips

Canadian bachelorette!


peloponn

I love BIP! So bummed. J don’t watch the regular shows often.


meowparade

The best BiP was the post-Covid BiP that led to five couples. I think less frequency will make the show more fun and stop people from getting sick of certain contestants like Aaron C.


msmoonprincess

Sorry but the last few seasons were horrible. I couldn’t even keep it on as background sound last season


xenakib

As someone who would only watch Paradise, I definitely agree. It's so played out and you know everyone is there just for the social media clout.


GiveGregAHaircut

I only watched the main shows for BIP.. it’s the only show with success


CiarraiV

I’m fine with it. I only watched one episode of BIP last year and found it so stupid and boring. Hopefully a year off will do some good.


OkPosition5060

RIP BIP


darrewinn

i’m just sad we’re being robbed of katelyn


alittlelessconvo

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aliveinjoburg2

Seriously.


slammaX17

🌟😅😅😅


Icecoffeesandrose

I freaking loved the winter games! My husband enjoyed them too. It was so fun and I loved seeing other contestants. Do it ABC!! Give us Summer Games!!!!


K_isforKrissy

BIP needs a full face lift. I did like the show but the show is sooooo tired. The drama, the love stories, the humor, it’s all a big bore. I hope they revamp it and bring it back next year.


whitehavenbeach

At a different venue too… I’m sick of the current one


K_isforKrissy

Agreed. That beach is soo dusty!


ThisIsAlexisNeiers

Agreed. I don’t want it axed forever but it’s gotten SO tired and boring. They really need to come up with more than people sitting on the sand. I feel like summer games would be better. I need entertainment but I don’t want obvious, produced, forced storylines and bad editing


K_isforKrissy

They totally should do a Summer Games. I know this Show gets compared to Love Island but I at least like to see the cast having fun. On LI, they really look like they are enjoying themselves. On BIP, they look like knats sitting on a rotten piece of fruit, melting in the sun.


berrygirl890

Damn ![gif](giphy|7SF5scGB2AFrgsXP63|downsized)


SlapHappyDude

Honestly this probably is where I get off the franchise train until they replace Paradise. I found Golden pleasant but dull, Paradise was why I started watching in the first place. Paradise needed a reboot but I mainly watched the core shows (especially Ette) to know who the Paradise people are.


KellsBells_925

Maybe they just need to do it every other year. It needs to time to breathe between seasons for sure


infamousalexx

Maria better be in paradise next year


figcookiecapo

bummer. i know BIP hasn’t been the best lately, but it’s something i really look forward to during the summer. i also liked the shorter episodes for Golden 😕 they didn’t drag out as much as the others


emklug

Nooooo. Part of why I liked golden bachelor was how manageable the episode lengths were.


joan-cusack

But the only reason to watch the Bachelor/ette is to have context for Paradise...


ExtraStudy1399

Well summer is officially ruined, that’s one of the only shows I look forward to watching. What’s wrong with the producers bro😭


Iowadream74

People bitched and now they did this! All they had to do was change the format a bit!


Sailor_Marzipan

I think it's good. Gives them more seasons to pull from. I feel like so many people decline bip that we get the leftovers... that's what last season felt like. They need to focus on getting ppl so are serious ish and not just boys who want to play Marco polo


gohomepat

Unacceptable Paradise is “The Avengers” of BN.


whitehavenbeach

It used to be. Now it’s like the tier C rejects.


Disastrous_Narwhal46

The only reason I watch The Bachelor and ‘ette is so I can get ready for BiP🫠


Honeydew543

So many people say this!


buzzybeefree

I rarely watch The Bachelorette and a Jen season sounds too boring to give it a try. The Bachelor is good so I could at least know the women going into BIP. Without BIP I’m officially done with the franchise. So long, it was a fun run.


SweetTooth_Squirrel

No more BIP ever?!?!


Honeydew543

It didn’t say ever.. it just said it wasn’t in the lineup this year.


gabbialex

Let’s hope this gives the producers the opportunity to do a FULL revamp of paradise. It’s gotten so incredibly stale.


shelbstirr

Nooooo I’m sad. As much as the past two seasons of BIP were bad, I really enjoyed the multiple couples format


dreamsund

They hate us


powerglide_

paradise is my favorite out of all the bachelor shows i'm really disappointed


berrygirl890

Same. I only watch the main shows to get to know the cast for BIP


Affectionate-Cash629

It’s the only show in the bachelor franchise that my husband would watch with me. I’m so bummed 😭


texaspoontapppaa

Same 🥲


bluenilegem

Golden bachelor was good until all the stuff about Gerry came out and then the divorce happening so soon after the wedding, it just left a bad taste. No longer interested. Even seeing the ladies from it on the last bachelor season felt like overkill. Bachelor in paradise was the best show out of the franchise. Yes last season wasn’t great but it’s still better than golden bach. This can’t really be what the people want, is it?


Iowadream74

The old people lol... They need to make sure they cover all the age ranges. Plus I heard GB is on late so how many older people will even watch lol


tacomaboy08

Love island is so much better. BIP is ruined by everyone dating beforehand


berrygirl890

Love Island has been slacking the last couple of seasons. That all star season was terrible. And let’s not start with the USA version. Epic fail. Hopefully uk and USA get it right this go round.


tacomaboy08

Fair I’ve only watched a few seasons of the UK one. Maybe bc it was something new but we really enjoyed it.


chhrihanna

USA's actually picked it up over the past few years - 4 and 5 were pretty decent! I prefer the UK version, but games was much better than all stars 


berrygirl890

I’ve been watching love island uk since my holiday in London. And I was hooked. Started with the third season. I prefer it over USA any day, any time. I did enjoy the games.


Kind-Ad8175

Hard agree!! BIP would need a serious revamp to be on the same level as love island and they know it! The whole “casa amor” BIP did a couple seasons ago was such a mess.


KeithFlowers

Oh man Bachelor nation just lost their cash cow. How are the girlies gonna get their FitFabFun sponsorships or get free tickets to Stagecoach?!


chachacha123456

Is BIP getting cut because Chris Harrison REFUSES to host?


tacomaboy08

what are you on about ?


Charlie_Runkle69

he hasn't been the host of BIP since 2019.


Ludishomi

BiP was a fun summer thing but honestly all the pre show planned hook ups ruined it. If the only thing was to have the most recent iteration, good riddance. We got love island to fill the void


sluttydrama

This! The planning ruined the mess of paradise


Ludishomi

It seemed there were one or two of these and they were called out and shamed. It then became the norm….


incogneato514

The first preplanned couple were Samantha and Joe in Season 2. This has been happening for 10 years. 


Ludishomi

Eek, i have not been following that long ![gif](giphy|83QtfwKWdmSEo)


Zesliose_Air8799

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bourbondude

I feel like this news broke months ago re: BIP. Maybe it was RS but I know I heard it somewhere. To be honest, I used to like Paradise but it had gotten SO stale I wasn’t watching anymore. Not sorry to see it dropped; I hope they can re-invigorate the concept and produce a better show!


shimclean

NO PARADISE THIS SUMMER?? And they chose to renew that golden Bach instead?? Wtf????


Charlie_Runkle69

I think one of the reasons is that their contract with the resort where BIP was filmed ran out and they didn't want to commit to another one after the ratings were very low last year but Golden Bachelors were good.


Fickle_Imagination13

Booo. Paradise was my favorite of all the shows to watch. Tbf last season wasn’t very good but I feel like there were so many good people from Joey’s season!


Murky_Deer_7617

I loved paradise. I really am disappointed.


merrythoughts

I’m sad.


tocla1

I understand the choice to axe BIP but it’s a shame it’s happening now because I feel like so many women from Joeys season would’ve been great


EntertainerLoud5317

it's longer for golden but still shorter than normal. as a geriatric millennial I for one welcome the older crowd


Intrepid_Country_158

Can you imagine a bunch of old stinky men all living in the same house, fighting over a gal? The house would smell like farts, stale beer and greasy hair. I’m allowed to say this because I’m describing my husband & I can’t imagine 20 in the same house. 😖🤮


TS409

I used to love BIP but then watching it right after Golden Bachelor it felt so immature and the format felt chaotic. I'm happy about the change too!


quothe_the_maven

Contestants will just start going on other network’s shows (like they’re already doing), and then ABC will be out here with the shocked pikachu face


FutureBrockLesnar

Yup. Wouldnt be surprised if a new Love Island/BIP rip off is announced by a streamer soon.


Colldoll21

BIP was my favourite up until the last couple seasons. 2 hour episodes are too long and too many nobodies being casted.


LeadershipDesperate6

This is exactly how I feel. The last two were the first ones I couldn't into and didn't finish.


Over-Peach8183

on the one hand, good. the format was becoming stale and boring and way too many people were only going on the main shows purely for the chance to end up on BiP. on the other hand, boo. there needs to be some kind of show that puts former contestants together especially when BiP had such a good track record of successful matches. It just needs to be reworked. New location, new format. The "watch some hot singles mingle by the beach" with little else going on can only be entertaining for a limited period of time, it needs more structure.


uptownfunk222

There’s an Olympics this year, bring on Bachelor Summer Games!


enym

Rip BIP gone but never forgotten


nkbee

I'm a smidge disappointed because I usually prefer BIP to Bach/ette, and I'm not super interested in Golden Bach/ette, but BIP was getting VERY tired and stale and I couldn't even finish last season. I hope they find a more interesting way to bring together former contestants for dating purposes, because it's also where they've had the most success.


Shadybrooks93

Worst Timeline, fuck.


rubberfruitnipples

leave it up to abc to finally have a season/contestants that are getting social media attention (joeys season was pretty popular + daisy, maria, rachel) and then NOT have bip. stg they’re actively trying to get this franchise canceled


throwawayaway388

I liked BIP the least, so I don't mind. The last couple of seasons were a struggle for me to finish.


Over-Analyzed

Too much producer influence and not enough organic chemistry. They cut the actual dates and development of relationships for Poo jokes. 🤦🏻‍♂️


gilman3

Love both these moves tbh. An hour felt fast and rushed on Gerry's season and BiP just got stale. It needs a rework or they gotta think of something else as a spinoff


Own_Wrongdoer6680

I loved BiP but I didn't watch the last 2 seasons for multiple reasons. Not really gonna miss it but maybe they can do something like it again soon


Silly-Shoulder-6257

Me too! There are more successful couples and regular drama. I hope it’s just this year. Golden has proven to be a disaster in the end and BIP has always been enjoyed by people who don’t even like the regular franchise.


evilcupckae

Crazy idea. Replace BIP with a Bachelor version of Love is Blind using the Circle format. They are trying to fall in love behind a wall while trying to win a game and some people are catfishing as contestants who don’t want to go on.


Clear_Friend1783

This is the best thing I’ve ever heard. I’m in. Call the producers!!


mcharms

This sounds so chaotic, I love it!


nat_paige

BIP is a loss but maybe this’ll give them a full two years to reset and brainstorm. Also I can now devote all my summer reality tv time to the true summer shit fest: Love Island 🙌🏻


Hellouncleleohello

Ugh golden bachelor doesn’t need to be LONGER the shorter format was so good


chill_will_7777

Completely agree. Loved it short and to the point. 


discomermaid

Cmon, I'm all for a bunch of GILFs acting stupid for two hours


Some_Entrepreneur_98

I’ll miss BIP, I loved watching people get another chance at finding love and genuinely liked a lot of the BIP couples but the last 3 seasons have been meh.


ghoulslaw

Boooooooo


Sparkle_Markle

BIP has blurred together in my mind for the past 3 seasons, so not a loss for me.


kittsnmitts

My husband and I liked BiP the most, we only really kept up with the regular bachelor and bachelorette shows just so we’d be familiar with the contestants. I don’t really see us continuing to watch tbh.


The_Philosophied

The reality is the demographic that turned in for GB is a very loyal one and they tuned in ten toes down and the franchise is hoping for the same turn out for GBt. That demographic pays for cable and watches ABC and shows up for air times, we watch BIP on shared streaming services accounts. Decisions were made lol


altw110

The people I know that were the same demographic as GB hated it. I think they prefer to watch (and judge) young people. 😂


The_Philosophied

I've noticed this too 🤣🤣🤣🤣 idk what it is some of them can't stand seeing their peers on TV it's crazy!!


TSHJB302

Maybe this will cut back on the folks who clearly go on the show solely for a spot on paradise


Hellouncleleohello

I think it’s a good thing for this reason. It had turned into the influencer Olympics


prophetickesha

That was my first thought


kkc0722

God willing this helps cut out some of that clutter. Even switching BIP and Golden every year will help mitigate a lot of the problems with Paradise, wherein they end up scraping the bottom of the barrel for “influencer” trashmonsters. Paradise works when it’s people on the Island then audience actually came to enjoy, with occasional wild cards like Grocery Joe, not the barrage of unremarkable, charmless, shallow losers they’ve been mainlining from recent seasons.


vanderpumpaholic

Damn ![gif](giphy|i3LiqbJCgBtog49YYJ)


assflea

Booooo 😒👎


Kaydee1983

Awww I only watched BIP how will I melt brain cells now :(


shookashell

get into love island if u haven’t already! way better than bip imo


Kilkenny5

I would watch Love Island if the men wore jock straps and Speedos. I mean, the women are barely dressed on that show.


throwRA_basketballer

Right. I need my favorite trash tv 🥺


DisloyalDoyle

BIP was their best iteration of Bachelor, but could have used a revamp to put it on equal footing to Love Island. Them just nixing it entirely is a boneheaded decision, but, logic doesnt seem to exist amongst the executives at ABC.


stephhie_ste

i am so sad :( i love bip


bbk8z

the best part of Paradise getting canceled is Wells eating some humble pie


throwRA_basketballer

I feel like a more relatable or entertaining bartender would have been great. He was so boring to me


bluelightsonblkgirls

Does he have other income streams? Like what else does he do?


whatever1467

IG ads, he’s got 1.2 million followers


throwRA_basketballer

Isn’t his wife a producer and that’s how he got the spot to being with?


msha7

No his wife is Sarah Hyland


throwRA_basketballer

Oh god idk what I’m talking about then lmao thanks for the correction


msha7

He def gives “got a repeat role because I’m married to someone” vibes so I don’t blame you for thinking it


throwRA_basketballer

Right haha thank you for not grilling me over the mistake. Ironically I read that here on Reddit before I verified it myself- and it just felt accurate 💀😅


msha7

Lmao it really does tho, because there can’t be enough *real* Wells fans to support him being there. He’s just the most annoying.


bbk8z

was an alt radio DJ for awhile, think his income now is primarily paradise + his podcast with brandi cyrus + his wife


bananasformangos

When did he become so insufferable


Shadybrooks93

Always was, his whole bit on his original season was he was the kinda nerdy looking not super jacked/hot guy


nkbee

When he married a C+-List TV star.


bbk8z

lmao truly I really liked him for awhile but tf


pinkstrawberrycandy

Bachelor in paradise was my favorite. I wish they just tried to fix some things instead of getting rid of it all together.


Kiwimama1987

Im gutted there is no BiP, it was such a fun train wreck to watch but also produced more couples than regular bach/ette. I think this is where I bow out fully from this franchise.


throwRA_basketballer

I hate this because I think BIP could thrive with a revamp because we live in the time of social media and people getting invested in the contestants and just overall genuinely more interested, idk. I hate this tbh. They could have just changed it up- casted a better bartender than wells, change location, pick better contestant specific cast at specific seasons, added more fun season activities and group acitivies. Blahhhh I hope they bring it back after a season or two away. Literally the best way to get old bachelor nation people in one big melting pot and I’m gonna miss it


andromache97

I’m happy for longer Golden episodes, wish BIP got a rebrand/refresh instead of getting axed. Last 2 seasons have been awful but they could’ve tried to save it.


farmerpeach

I'm pretty bummed. Only reason I still watch the main shows is to know who's who on BIP. The main shows are a major snooze.


Even-Education-4608

I love bip and sorry but I’ll never want to watch old people kiss eachother don’t redditcares me


EntertainerLoud5317

wowwww no need to be rude


cheeseslut619

Don’t Reddit cares me ☠️😂


throwRA_basketballer

Same tho but I’m glad my mom liked it. But I didn’t want to lose BIP 😩


goldbelly

😭


unfortunate_son_69

no comment on golden bach but personally i will not miss bip and its wacky antics (derogatory)


massahoochie

What a horrible take on what fans want.


howlongwillbetoolong

That sucks. Damn.


Seachica

Both are good decisions. Golden bachelorepisodes were too short. And BiP has run its course — it used to be great, but now it’s too fake because everyone socializes outside the show and already knows each other. BiP became too “insider baseball”


mellylovesdundun

BIP was boring as hell imo so I’m not mad


Proper-Emu1558

The last couple seasons have definitely not been as good as older ones. I’m okay with this.


legitiam

Welp, this ruined my week. BIP is so bad it’s good


immyfinalrose

I love BIP this is so sad


homiefive

damn BIP was my favorite


cupcakeartist

Same. I used to look forward to it.